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Originally Posted by fast11375
Because 89 flops one butt end combo that gets beat by AK. 89TJQ. And he will need to do a lot of homework on me before he can play profitable while I don't have to do anything to put him on a range. If he calls too much then I will adjust by folding flop 80% of the time, if he folds too much I'll fold flop 60% of the time.
In an extreme example:If he never folds AA KK postflop ever, then I should theoretically be calling ATC. If he always folds AA KK postflop, I should also theoretically be calling. Do you see what I mean? His narrow raising range is a detriment vs players who knows how to abuse. He should really be raising to 15-20bb preflop if he's this narrow, or else I can make a profit flatting wide.
What? This makes absolutely no sense. You don't know how to abuse him. You do realize losing 10BB per hand is pretty bad, if you're folding 60% of the time, that's 60BB right there. This doesn't even take into account that you may try to float and have to fold to a 2nd barrel, try to float and the V doesn't fold anyways, etc.
And if I shove 50 into a $100 pot OTR on a scare card, I only need to win 1 out of 3 to break even. I don't really need him to fold that much.
This is the wrong way to look at it. $50 of that $100 pot was originally yours. Yes I understand the concept once you put it in the middle, its gone. But I'm talking about the net amount of money you have at the beginnning of the hand vs the end. So no, you need to get called less than 1 out of 3 times to break even
for the hand. $100 of $150 ($50 that was already in there before hand, plus your $50 river bet) is yours.
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Put yourself in his shoes:
1)You raise AA/KK/AK/AQ/TJs preflop vs MP open and MP flats. Flop comes 379 two tone, you cbet and I fold 60% and you win 10.5bb I lose 10bb.
2)You raise AA/KK/AK/AQ/TJs preflop vs MP open and MP flats. Flop comes 379 two tone, you cbet and I call 30%. Turn T, you bet 25bb into 40bb pot, I raise all in for 75bb, you?
2)You raise AA/KK/AK/AQ/TJs preflop vs MP open and MP flats. Flop comes 379 two tone, you cbet and I raise 10% to 35bb, you?
TLDR: you will win many small pots but be flipping or dead in big pots.
A) You're asking for very specific boards to help you out, and B) fold equity is significantly less in 3bet pots. I don't think you'll generate as many folds as you'd like.
Last edited by chaser3; 09-05-2012 at 09:40 PM.