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02-01-2011 , 10:34 AM
Headed in the right direction, keep it up
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02-25-2011 , 06:03 PM
no volume this month

BR - Start - $165.70
BR - Start of session - $198

30No - $1.10 - 45 man - $33 invested
Prizes - $22

BR Finish of session - $187
ROI to date - positive 10% (187 No games)
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02-25-2011 , 09:01 PM
I'm doing roughly the same thing, give or take some HU/dailydolars/STTs on the side.

Good luck!

What software are you using?
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02-25-2011 , 10:50 PM
I have a MAC so I'm a bit restricted in terms of software.

I've got Poker Tracker though and it's paid for itself.
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03-05-2011 , 03:20 PM
another quiet week. Don't think I'm going to get the volume in to achieve my goal. Only averaging 20 odd games a week, but still happy with the progress. Almost ready to move up!

BR - Start - $165.70
BR - Start of session - $187

13No - $1.10 - 45 man - $14.40 invested
Prizes - $27

BR Finish of session - $199.60
ROI to date - positive 15% (200 No games)
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03-06-2011 , 02:34 AM
moving up to the 3s!

BR - Start - $165.70
BR - Start of session - $199.60

4No - $1.10 - 45 man - $4.40 invested
Prizes - $10

BR Finish of session - $205.20
ROI to date - positive 18% (204 No games)
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03-15-2011 , 02:46 PM
Decent start to the 3s. Got lucky as on the last game if I didn't cash I would have been back down to grinding the $1.10s. Fortunately I won!

BR - Start - $165.70
BR - Start of session - $205.20

16No - $3.25 - 45 man - $52 invested
Prizes - $54

BR Finish of session - $207.20
$1.10s - ROI to date - positive 18% (204 No games)
$3.25s - ROI to date - positive 4% (16 No games)
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03-17-2011 , 08:22 AM
while I realise this is far from riveting reading, it helps me stay focused on my goals, so you'll have to put up with it :P

And yes it's slow going!

BR - Start - $165.70
BR - Start of session - $207.20

6No - $3.25 - 45 man - $19.50 invested
Prizes - $42

BR Finish of session - $229.70
$1.10s - ROI to date - positive $39.50 or 18% (204 No games)
$3.25s - ROI to date - positive $24.50 or 34% (22 No games)
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03-17-2011 , 10:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbreslin
Hey, I'm a micro 45'er myself (see my new challenge post: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...2011-a-951515/) so I'm interested in your challenge.

Please take this as constructive feedback but you might consider taking some time to really examine your game at the $1.10's. You should be able to beat that level for much higher than 20%. Given how much tougher things are at the $3's and $6's (just read some of the 45-turbo thread in the MTT Community forum), you're going to have a very hard time making money at those levels if you can't do better than 20% ROI at the $1's.

My sample is admittedly much smaller, so take this with a big grain of salt, but my overall ROI at $1.10 is roughly 50% over ~350 tournies. I just returned to these after a hiatus of about 6 months and I've been killing them since I returned. Maybe I'm headed for a big crash in my ROI but 20% seems way too low.
Definitely not true. It all depends on how much you play at once obviously, though 50% even at 1.1/45 is not sustainable (at least these days). 350 tourneys isn't a sample at all - 1-2 days of play for high volume players. You can run on a 1000 tourneys 50%+ heater but that doesn't mean it's your true ROI. 1k-2k tourneys breaking even stretch will kill your ROI even at micros where your shoves are gonna get called by all sorts of crap. In long run, 20% imo is a pretty solid ROI though I guess you can do slightly better at 1.1/45 (doubtfuly better than 25-30%).

@OP. You should really increase volume and grind those 1.1/45 to reach at least those 100-150 bi's for 3.25/45. It's just a lot easier and more comfortable to play with a solid bankroll. Anyways, gl.
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03-17-2011 , 10:25 AM
Good luck!
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03-17-2011 , 01:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by muuuka
In long run, 20% imo is a pretty solid ROI though I guess you can do slightly better at 1.1/45 (doubtfuly better than 25-30%).
You're right that 50% is probably unsustainable, I'm now down to about 40% through ~700 tournies at 1.10. The whole debate about true ROI is really pointless since lower volume players like myself will never have a large enough sample to reach our true ROI. All we have to go on is our actual ROI as a rough assessment of our profitability.

Anyway my point was simply that if you're multitabling the easiest level and returning 20%, you're going to be eking out a smaller and smaller profit as you move up. I agree with you that OP is rushing things. Moving up after a 200 tourney sample of results with only 60 buyins for the next level is a recipe for disaster.
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03-17-2011 , 03:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbreslin
You're right that 50% is probably unsustainable, I'm now down to about 40% through ~700 tournies at 1.10. The whole debate about true ROI is really pointless since lower volume players like myself will never have a large enough sample to reach our true ROI. All we have to go on is our actual ROI as a rough assessment of our profitability.

Anyway my point was simply that if you're multitabling the easiest level and returning 20%, you're going to be eking out a smaller and smaller profit as you move up. I agree with you that OP is rushing things. Moving up after a 200 tourney sample of results with only 60 buyins for the next level is a recipe for disaster.
I'm quite comfortable with this. I'm happy to drop down if I go back below $170. While my sample for this challenge is only 200 I have got about 1,500 under my belt all up so I have sustained success at the 1s.
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03-17-2011 , 05:33 PM
You're doing good so far but if I would be you I'd try loading up more tables atleast 10 at a time to increase ur hourly profit and to keep you more focused on the games and forgetting the bad beats which may tilt you if you only play 2-4 tables at once, if you stack the tables up it should be very easy to 10 table
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03-17-2011 , 08:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbreslin
You're right that 50% is probably unsustainable, I'm now down to about 40% through ~700 tournies at 1.10. The whole debate about true ROI is really pointless since lower volume players like myself will never have a large enough sample to reach our true ROI. All we have to go on is our actual ROI as a rough assessment of our profitability.

Anyway my point was simply that if you're multitabling the easiest level and returning 20%, you're going to be eking out a smaller and smaller profit as you move up. I agree with you that OP is rushing things. Moving up after a 200 tourney sample of results with only 60 buyins for the next level is a recipe for disaster.
In vacuum, you're right. All I meant was that without solid sample it's really hard to determine whether you're a solid winner or not. OP may be as well on that worse side of variance and his 20% is pretty good indicator of how he actually plays and that it's enough to beat 3.25/45 and higher for a solid %. Just wanted to make my previous post more clear, sorry for offtopic op.
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03-18-2011 , 04:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmbreslin
You're right that 50% is probably unsustainable, I'm now down to about 40% through ~700 tournies at 1.10. The whole debate about true ROI is really pointless since lower volume players like myself will never have a large enough sample to reach our true ROI. All we have to go on is our actual ROI as a rough assessment of our profitability.

Anyway my point was simply that if you're multitabling the easiest level and returning 20%, you're going to be eking out a smaller and smaller profit as you move up. I agree with you that OP is rushing things. Moving up after a 200 tourney sample of results with only 60 buyins for the next level is a recipe for disaster.
Quote:
Originally Posted by IMakeTheMoney
You're doing good so far but if I would be you I'd try loading up more tables atleast 10 at a time to increase ur hourly profit and to keep you more focused on the games and forgetting the bad beats which may tilt you if you only play 2-4 tables at once, if you stack the tables up it should be very easy to 10 table
I run with 6 tables at once. I'm not one to tilt. As long as I'm happy with how I played the hand if I lose I lose.
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03-18-2011 , 04:25 AM
[QUOTE sorry for offtopic op.[/QUOTE]

Now I wont be able to sleep tonight!
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04-25-2011 , 07:37 PM
Long overdue update (not that I've been playing a lot). I've been bouncing around between the 1s and 3s a bit with no success.

BR - Start - $165.70
BR - Start of session - $229.70

43No - $3.25 - 45 man - $139.75 invested
Prizes - $90
15No - $1.10 - 45 man - $15.50 invested
Prizes - $24

BR Finish of session - $188.45
$1.10s - ROI to date - positive $48.00 or 20% (219 No games)
$3.25s - ROI to date - positive <$25.25> or <12%> (65 No games)
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04-26-2011 , 06:20 AM
got a couple more in today (1 good result)

BR - Start - $165.70
BR - Start of session - $188.45

2No - $3.25 - 45 man - $6.50 invested
Prizes - $30
4No - $1.10 - 45 man - $4.40 invested
Prizes - $5

BR Finish of session - $212.55
$1.10s - ROI to date - positive $48.60 or 20% (223 No games)
$3.25s - ROI to date - positive <$1.75> or <1%> (67 No games)
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05-03-2011 , 03:16 PM
went ok in the last week. The $3.25s takes forever to fill up now with no Americans there! Hard to get any volume with the time I have to play.

BR - Start - $165.70
BR - Start of session - $212.55

8No - $3.25 - 45 man - $26.00 invested
Prizes - $48
1No - $1.10 - 45 man - $1.10 invested
Prizes - $0

BR Finish of session - $233.45
$1.10s - ROI to date - positive $47.50 or 19% (224 No games)
$3.25s - ROI to date - positive $20.25 or 8% (75 No games)
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11-06-2011 , 01:44 AM
Haven't been playing much (and updating even less!). No where near achieving my goals for the year, but not actually losing money so I guess that's ok. Seem to have the $1 games sorted out, but struggle with the $3 games. Maybe just a volume thing?

BR - Start - $165.70
BR - Start of session - $233.45

31No - $3 to $3.50 - 45 man - $106.39 invested
Prizes - $12
134No - $1 to $1.50 - 45 man - $184.50 invested
Prizes - $266

BR Finish of session - $220.56
$1 to 1.50s - $430.90 invested, $559.90 won, ROI to date - positive $129 or 30% (358 No games)
$3 to 3.50s - $350.14 invested, $288 won, ROI to date - negative $62.14 or 18% (106 No games)
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11-07-2011 , 08:30 PM
Small update as going on holiday for next week (and the small session went ok!)

BR - Start - $165.70
BR - Start of session - $220.56

1No - $3.50 - 45 man - $3.50 invested
Prizes - $8.61
5No - $1.50 - 45 man - $7.50 invested
Prizes - $11.32

BR Finish of session - $229.49
$1 to 1.50s - $438.40 invested, $571.22 won, ROI to date - positive $132.82 or 30% (363 No games)
$3 to 3.50s - $353.64 invested, $296.61 won, ROI to date - negative $57.03 or 16% (107 No games)
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11-07-2011 , 08:37 PM
Prob just variance with the diff btwn $1/$3 45man results, I would get out of the $1 asap bc of the rake
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11-07-2011 , 09:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IamPro
Prob just variance with the diff btwn $1/$3 45man results, I would get out of the $1 asap bc of the rake
I hope so, but over my 45s in my life (obviously including games before this 'poker goal') my results are:

$1-$1.50s - ROI - 20% (over 1,700 games)
$3-$3.50s - ROI - negative 15% (over 515 games)

While 515 games isn't a big sample, I would have thought the ROIs would be closer, as when playing them I don't see any difference in skill level. In fact in the 3s I see some crazy stuff.

The difference in rake is only like 0.5%, so not too bad.
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11-07-2011 , 10:29 PM
get more volume in
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11-11-2011 , 01:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fidstar
I hope so, but over my 45s in my life (obviously including games before this 'poker goal') my results are:

$1-$1.50s - ROI - 20% (over 1,700 games)
$3-$3.50s - ROI - negative 15% (over 515 games)

While 515 games isn't a big sample, I would have thought the ROIs would be closer, as when playing them I don't see any difference in skill level. In fact in the 3s I see some crazy stuff.

The difference in rake is only like 0.5%, so not too bad.
it's variance.

from last 1k 7 dollar 45 man turbos I run at 14% roi.

last 1k 3.50s the roi is 2.5% 100 BI downswings ftw.
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