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40k hands a month and quit smoking for my kid! LFG 40k hands a month and quit smoking for my kid! LFG

07-07-2020 , 04:01 AM
Hey everyone I am a 35 year old guy from the USA who sadly is a smoker. I also play mostly online poker at the 200NL limits on a few different sites and some local poker games for my living. I am currently winning at a 5.5bb/100 clip and I feel I have so much more improvement to make. Just feeling like I have been getting better and knowing I have so much more room to improve is very motivating to say the least.

Long story short is I am planning on playing 40k hands per month minimum and quitting smoking by the end of this year. I do consider vaping to count as quitting as it will be much better than inhaling 2 packs of smokes every single day. I know for a fact this will be one of the hardest things I will ever do however I am determined to do it so I can see my little boy grow up and get married one day. Tomorrow I am actually heading to get some new vape juice so I can start this little endeavor as quickly as possible.

As far as the 40k hands per month goes... I am doing that because by playing that many hands minimum per month my rakeback and earnings will be more than sufficient to get me to my next goal I will post more about closer to the end of the year. It's a little more exciting and more of a secret. I don't want to talk about it and it not happen or take longer than expected.

I will be posting in here weekly or so some hands to look at and how the smoking thing is going. I would greatly appreciate all the support I can get on the quitting smoking and inevitable brutality that variance is going to put me through. I am very much so ready and will continue to follow my plan of action and know that if I keep doing what I am doing all will be just fine in the end and if it's not then it's not the end.


This isn't all the hands I have as I have been playing for 15 years part time and I know this won't be easy. Anyone who has any advice I am more than happy to hear it if it constructive of course. This is my graph for the last month with mostly 100NL, 200NL, 400NL on it. I have only been playing full time at 100NL and 200NL the last 2 weeks. Before that I played anywhere from 200NL-1kNL sometimes. All I know is I would like the sun run to continue I know it will not go that way though and that's ok I am happy with this first month of being a professional.



Till next time guys, Keep it Classy out there.
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07-07-2020 , 07:07 AM
nice results!
on which room are you playing and how many tables?
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07-07-2020 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Piolover
nice results!
on which room are you playing and how many tables?
Thanks man. I play on a few different sites and apps including Poker Bros and ColorUp Poker.
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07-07-2020 , 05:19 PM
Best of luck with quitting smoking brother. Vaping is far better than smoking, it's the only way I was able to stop after trying patches, gum and medication. I had my last cigarette a week after picking up a crappy cigalike vape back in 2013. With the advances in vape devices available these days you're bound to find one that works for you.

I haven't really played online regularly since black Friday, back than I played up to 400NL mostly on Full Tilt. Looks like you're off to a great start, keep stacking chips!
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07-08-2020 , 09:37 AM
good luck, nice results you have.
I´m a vaper as well, quit smoking 5 years ago.
vaping is definitly the best thing I´ve started. So much cheaper and it doesn´t smell that bad. there are a ton of options you have with vaping. There are 2 main categories:

1. mtl = mouth to loung. quite the same as smoking a cig.
2. direct loung. with huge clouds as you might see before

I´d recommend when starting you go with 1, a mtl. 18 mg of nicotine, ready to fill in, ready mixed (you can start mixing yourself when youre more experienced, that´s when it becomes rlly cheap. With 18mg of nicotine, it gives you quite a hit as a heavy smoker of 2 boxed a day. there are tons of vapes out there, I like the Nautilus AIO (all in one) the most, using 2 of them for 2 years now. taste is super awesome, it holds 5ml of juice (guess u´ll vape like 10-20 ml a day at the start). battery is 1000mah which should bring you half through the day (you can charge via usb), so youd better buy 2 of them from the start. M vape lasts the whole day, but I smoke a lot less.
When you get a feeling for it, you can decrease the mg of the nicotine. I´m at 12mg now and I´m fine with it.

The mtl vapes usually fire about 8-12 Wattage. Therefore, you need a high mg of nicotine to get "satisfied". Its differenz with nr. 2, the direct loung vapes which makes the big clouds. They can fire up to 200W (most ppl vape them between 30-100W) and that´s why you need a lot less of mg in nicotine. I vape mine at 3mg, I don´t know anyone who is using higher then 6mg... The direct loung is some kind of advanced stuff, there are tons of vapes... So I´d recommend you would start with a small mtl one.

IT takes 2-3 days to get used to it, but then you never want to go back, Ill promise... I mix the juice by myself, costs me around 100 bucks a year! + 1-2 new vapes between 30 to 100 bucks...

And the last tipp: go to a vape store and pay a bit more then when you buy in the internet. there you can taste all the different tastes, most of the ppl will start with a cigarette taste but then will go to other tastes like fruit or mint or something. Taste everything and then decide. The first 1-2 days are ****ed up because you may coughing, stay strong and then you dont want anything other any more

ask qeustions if you wnat
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07-10-2020 , 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by aIoNe
good luck, nice results you have.
I´m a vaper as well, quit smoking 5 years ago.
vaping is definitly the best thing I´ve started. So much cheaper and it doesn´t smell that bad. there are a ton of options you have with vaping. There are 2 main categories:

1. mtl = mouth to loung. quite the same as smoking a cig.
2. direct loung. with huge clouds as you might see before

I´d recommend when starting you go with 1, a mtl. 18 mg of nicotine, ready to fill in, ready mixed (you can start mixing yourself when youre more experienced, that´s when it becomes rlly cheap. With 18mg of nicotine, it gives you quite a hit as a heavy smoker of 2 boxed a day. there are tons of vapes out there, I like the Nautilus AIO (all in one) the most, using 2 of them for 2 years now. taste is super awesome, it holds 5ml of juice (guess u´ll vape like 10-20 ml a day at the start). battery is 1000mah which should bring you half through the day (you can charge via usb), so youd better buy 2 of them from the start. M vape lasts the whole day, but I smoke a lot less.
When you get a feeling for it, you can decrease the mg of the nicotine. I´m at 12mg now and I´m fine with it.

The mtl vapes usually fire about 8-12 Wattage. Therefore, you need a high mg of nicotine to get "satisfied". Its differenz with nr. 2, the direct loung vapes which makes the big clouds. They can fire up to 200W (most ppl vape them between 30-100W) and that´s why you need a lot less of mg in nicotine. I vape mine at 3mg, I don´t know anyone who is using higher then 6mg... The direct loung is some kind of advanced stuff, there are tons of vapes... So I´d recommend you would start with a small mtl one.

IT takes 2-3 days to get used to it, but then you never want to go back, Ill promise... I mix the juice by myself, costs me around 100 bucks a year! + 1-2 new vapes between 30 to 100 bucks...

And the last tipp: go to a vape store and pay a bit more then when you buy in the internet. there you can taste all the different tastes, most of the ppl will start with a cigarette taste but then will go to other tastes like fruit or mint or something. Taste everything and then decide. The first 1-2 days are ****ed up because you may coughing, stay strong and then you dont want anything other any more

ask qeustions if you wnat
Thanks for all the effort you put into your response about vaping man. It's greatly appreciated! I did get a nice vape and am using 12mg right now but I don't like th flavor I got. Its too fruity. I am guessing that is why you said I should try the mouth to lung first and I think you're right 100%. This isn't working very well currently with my setup. I am still smoking about a pack per day at least and when I am grinding it's way worse.

I kinda took most of the week off to spend with my little one as far as grinding goes but when I have played man alive I have ran well and played well. Its been wonderful. I will be posting weekly graph for motivation on good weeks and for support from you all on the rough weeks or whatever. I will continue to work on the smoking thing though and I will quit eventually and either be just vaping or nothing at all except maybe a 420 friendly event every now and again It smells way better than cigs as well

Thanks again for the reply and advice man. It was greatly appreciated.
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07-10-2020 , 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 1browndoggi
Best of luck with quitting smoking brother. Vaping is far better than smoking, it's the only way I was able to stop after trying patches, gum and medication. I had my last cigarette a week after picking up a crappy cigalike vape back in 2013. With the advances in vape devices available these days you're bound to find one that works for you.

I haven't really played online regularly since black Friday, back than I played up to 400NL mostly on Full Tilt. Looks like you're off to a great start, keep stacking chips!
Thanks my friend. If there was ever a time to get back into it now is the time. Games are great if you find the right action.
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07-10-2020 , 02:13 AM
Like I said it has been a pitiful week as far as volume goes but I have sure enjoyed my time with my child and that is why I am doing this in the first place. Freedom to be a good father. This was today and 3 short sessions.

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07-10-2020 , 12:57 PM
Hey man, if your trying to quit smoking, I'd recommend the Alan Carr book. Loads of people I know, got off it with this. GL
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07-10-2020 , 01:28 PM
I have some insight to the smoking to vaping. I was a smoker for over 20 years, and about 2 new years ago quit for vaping when my best friend gave a me a juul to try.

I would suggest you take salt nic over freebase nic for now. If you find yourself doing both smoking and vaping, higher your nic level. I went from 1/2 a pack a day to 50mg or 5%, and didn’t smoke a cig after the 2nd day of the juul. Eventually you will switch from a closed pod to open pod (you refill your own juice). But I wouldn’t worry about that now, first thing you want to do is just get to vaping only and not smoking at all. I also went with juuls Virginia tobacco, as it closely resembled the cigarette taste. Now I vape both fruity and tobacco flavours.

I’ve gone from 50mg to now 8-15mg salt nic the past 1.5 years. More energy than I’ve ever had and feel healthy. My wife and kids no longer bother me about how I smell which is prob the biggest difference they notice. And you will save a lot of money.

I’ve actually gotten about 5-6 ppl off smoking to vaping so I’m very proud of this. I hope you stick with it. End goal is to quit vaping too, but baby steps. GOOD LUCK!


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07-14-2020 , 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by shynepo3
I have some insight to the smoking to vaping. I was a smoker for over 20 years, and about 2 new years ago quit for vaping when my best friend gave a me a juul to try.

I would suggest you take salt nic over freebase nic for now. If you find yourself doing both smoking and vaping, higher your nic level. I went from 1/2 a pack a day to 50mg or 5%, and didn’t smoke a cig after the 2nd day of the juul. Eventually you will switch from a closed pod to open pod (you refill your own juice). But I wouldn’t worry about that now, first thing you want to do is just get to vaping only and not smoking at all. I also went with juuls Virginia tobacco, as it closely resembled the cigarette taste. Now I vape both fruity and tobacco flavours.

I’ve gone from 50mg to now 8-15mg salt nic the past 1.5 years. More energy than I’ve ever had and feel healthy. My wife and kids no longer bother me about how I smell which is prob the biggest difference they notice. And you will save a lot of money.

I’ve actually gotten about 5-6 ppl off smoking to vaping so I’m very proud of this. I hope you stick with it. End goal is to quit vaping too, but baby steps. GOOD LUCK!


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I got a JUUL 3 days ago and it is helping me a ton. Thanks for the advice!
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07-14-2020 , 02:39 AM
It's not technically Monday since it is 1:15am here where I live so I didn't keep the promise I made myself to have this updated by the end of the day. Close I guess though right!?!?

I will start with the smoking and then get into the poker side of things. I have been much much better thanks to the great advice of a couple of people who posted in here on my thread and I want to send out my biggest thanks for you all taking time out of your day to try and help someone out with something that is not easy for everyone to understand. I got a JUUL and over the last 3 days I have only smoked 1 pack each day. I know that sounds like a ton to some of you but when you are used to smoking at least 2 packs a day it's a good step in the right direction. My goal and what I will do is to be completely quit with smoking and only vaping by the end of the year. I made it the end of the year so I didn't feel so rushed here in the beginning to quit so fast it caused me issues bc I am a heavy smoker for sure. I can't wait to one day say I used to be s smoker!

I have my first prop bet with a poker buddy! We are playing 10k hands this week and we are only playing 100NL. This week is about getting back to our roots and in those streets grinding it out and not being soft. It isn't going to be easy but after 10k hands whoever has the highest win rate the loser owes the CHAMPION $50 Nothing crazy but enough to not want to lose with my super competitive ass!! I will let you know how we do next Monday when the prop is over. LFG!!! We are planning on doing another one of these the next weeks to come and are going to take action in our Discord group

Now with the poker week. I had a great week but sadly I did not hit my 10k hand weekly goal. I had my 8 year old boy this week for the first time while playing poker full time so it took some getting used to for him but I think everything is going to be great. I bought and set up a new CPU and grind station in a separate part of my place so I can be in peace and he can enjoy life still. This new grind station is so sick and makes me so happy bc I can play without lag now. I did get in almost 9k hands but I did struggle at 200NL this week. I reviewed some of the hands and most were just coolers that I couldn't have done much about but there were a few spots I feel I punted a little for sure. I tried to learn from those spots during my after session review and move on from it. I try not to dwell too bad about those bc unfortunately that is part of the game we love called poker. I am fortunate though bc I ran very well at 400NL this last week. Looking at my graph I was very proud of how I played through that little stretch. Even though I was winning it still hurts to know you should've crushed am I right?



OK OK here are the weekly results:

Profit=$2,074.70
Rakeback=$505
Total=$2,579.70


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07-17-2020 , 03:07 AM
Way to go on the vaping, and yes 2 packs a day is a lot. Just keep trying to force yourself to vape instead. It helps if u just get rid of your smokes. Try it out. U might be too lazy to get a pack and just keep vaping.

Nice results too.


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07-20-2020 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by shynepo3
Way to go on the vaping, and yes 2 packs a day is a lot. Just keep trying to force yourself to vape instead. It helps if u just get rid of your smokes. Try it out. U might be too lazy to get a pack and just keep vaping.

Nice results too.


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This is actually something I am doing and you are right I usually am too lazy to get up and go grab a pack normally.
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07-20-2020 , 10:27 PM
I made it here to update on time guys How about that

To say this was a wild week would be an understatement. I am talking everything from poker to the quitting smoking deal.

Starting off with the smoking. I did not have my son this week as I have him bi-weekly during the summer and this gave me an excuse to smoke more because I did not feel as bad about it since he was not watching me the whole time. However, halfway through the week I did go get some more pods and finished off the week strong only smoking 1 pack per day the last 3 days. I know that sounds like a ton but from someone who was smoking 2 packs a day I am fairly proud of how far I have come in such a short amount of time. I do believe with my continued discipline and reminder from my son I will get this behind me once and for all. It's not easy but usually anything that is worth it isn't easy is what I was told by my Papa. RIP Papa

As far as poker goes my good poker friend who plays 100NL on the same site I do wanted to get a prop bet together where we played 10k hands during the week at 100NL only and whoever had the highest win rate at the end of the 10k hands won $50. I know it's not a ton of money but it was more about pride than anything in our Discord group. I did not play my greatest poker by any means I think due to stressing getting in so many hands. I played 8 tables when I usually only play 4-6 to make up for getting more hands in and all it did was cost me. My opponent did not even finish the challenge because it was so brutal to get that many hands in. We don't have ZOOM guys and gals I did have a great start to the week in total coming out strong, real strong. However, after playing sooooo many hands in a week I fell off hard at the end. I am not happy with how I played but at least I did win a little and got a little over $800 in rakeback which is nice.
I am going to say that playing 40k hands per month is going to be a little rough playing the amount of tables I feel comfortable playing. I am I honestly misjudged how much harder it would be just to add 2 more tables but it has seriously affected play to a point that I am happy getting in 30k hands a month and having 2x the win rate. Seems like a no-brainer to me to be fair.

On a side note I am in contact with C-Biscuit stables and sending them my weekly results as well as hands I would like to review or need help with. I will be doing this over the next few weeks in the hopes of working out a staking deal with them in the near future. Kind of like in good faith I feel showing them I am serious. I am currently very rolled to play 100NL and 200NL without being too worried about going broke however I have always wanted to be a part of something in the poker world where I had a team so to speak. A team that I could lean on if I had questions or needed help with hands or whatever. Sadly the way the poker community is now unless you know someone it is hard for anyone to take you serious and help you with hands and such in a professional manner without setting up coaching first. I have owned my own business so I understand the payment for knowledge and don't mind that one bit but being a part of a staking group like C-Biscuit with such a wonderful background and reputation in the industry for so many years I just feel it would be the best place for me right now and in the future. It would be a team to work with and improve with along the way of moving up the stakes over time without risking my bankroll too much in the process. Heck I am not even scared to put up some of the money for the stake in good faith to be honest. If I wasn't 35 with a child and very risk adverse the older I am getting I wouldn't be into this as much as I have made it so far in life but right now this is exactly what I am looking for. Needless to say I am excited.

Here are the graphs of the prop and then my week in total. I will add I did not run very well in the prop at all but that is just part of poker. That is also why I try not to post too many hands in here as well. There are a few reasons like I already go through them with people I respect or they are not that interesting anyway. Nobody wants to see bad beats either so that is out the window.

My 100NL Prop bet




Totals for the week in all stakes and some PLO
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07-20-2020 , 10:30 PM
Oh yeah and here is a link to my Twitch everyone. Come and give me a follow and tell me how bad I am! Just kidding please be gentle. I will mostly be streaming once or twice a day to begin with till I get my setup all done in my room and such. Then I will try and get on a more reasonable schedule. Thanks everyone!

https://www.twitch.tv/flash2717
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07-20-2020 , 11:27 PM
I will say that the last 2 days have been a little rough at 100NL

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07-20-2020 , 11:30 PM
Is this a punt or is this ok? The reason I do not like the river jam is because when the King pairs on the river I have so many less AK combos that want to jam that river. I was debating on if I should even c-bet and I think with no heart in our hand it might not be the greatest C-bet due to removal of hands he could continue with and I basically have 2 over and a backdoor straight draw now. I do think I like having a heart in my hand here when I cbet. I do not think he is ever folding Jacks there anyway but I'm just trying to see if I could have done something a little different. I felt the board ran out very good for my range but the paired King on the river threw me off a little. Any suggestions?


PokerBros - $1 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Grindin2020 (SB): 221.8 BB
SomosUnidos (BB): 79.47 BB
i5uckatpoker (UTG): 162.27 BB
desertfish (UTG+1): 169.47 BB
FeelMyNuts (MP): 137.56 BB
Amaterasu9 (CO): 227.97 BB
TJBTHREE (BTN): 231.65 BB

Grindin2020 posts SB 0.5 BB, SomosUnidos posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Grindin2020 has A Q

fold, desertfish calls 1 BB, FeelMyNuts raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, Grindin2020 raises to 16.5 BB, fold, fold, FeelMyNuts calls 12.5 BB

Flop: (35 BB, 2 players) 7 T 5
Grindin2020 bets 11 BB, FeelMyNuts calls 11 BB

Turn: (57 BB, 2 players) K
Grindin2020 bets 27.5 BB, FeelMyNuts calls 27.5 BB

River: (112 BB, 2 players) K
Grindin2020 bets 112 BB, FeelMyNuts calls 82.56 BB and is all-in

Grindin2020 shows A Q (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 43%, Flop 23%, Turn 18%)
FeelMyNuts shows J J (Two Pair, Kings and Jacks)
(Pre 57%, Flop 77%, Turn 82%)
FeelMyNuts wins 272.87 BB
Rake paid 4.25 BB

Last edited by Flash2717; 07-20-2020 at 11:52 PM.
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07-20-2020 , 11:34 PM
This hand was a real odd one. He basically played it like a god however sadly you can't see his stats on here. He was 3-betting 28% and was up about 5.5 BI at this point 3-betting every hand it seemed and then basically just getting there on people. He hadn't got me till this happened. I just think when he bet $40 on the river into a pot that large and I have $200 behind it is tough to find a raise that doesn't rip. I felt he was a little week as this player pool at this limit does not set up the river very often in that way. They just jam that KK full house into my face. That is my reasoning for raising river but maybe I don't have to ship it and I can maybe make a smaller raise to say $90 and then give him the chance to spaz out and rip it in himself. Then I can call the all in or at least think about it. I feel the over jam was a little much on this board but his bet sizing was great. He put me in the cage and I was sad. Please help with this hand if you can or is it just a cooler from a whale? I kinda feel I didn't have to raise all in but I have a ton of bluffs there as well I feel with missing straights and maybe even having a 7 myself or AK with the A of clubs. I may just call down with that hand to be fair though. HMMMMM tough one mate. As played I feel it might have been a small punt and after thinking hard about it I like a river lead for about $70ish myself and when he jams I can probably find a fold, Yeah I like this better for sure. Note taken. Thanks for all the help guys lol. No seriously any help I greatly appreciate.

PokerBros - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

FoldPre2020 (UTG): 253.41 BB
JasonBrody (MP): 150 BB
Bubbles1123 (CO): 651 BB
gumdrops (BTN): 200 BB
milleniumfox (SB): 102.73 BB
NeverFolddd (BB): 200 BB

milleniumfox posts SB 0.5 BB, NeverFolddd posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) FoldPre2020 has 9 A

FoldPre2020 raises to 2 BB, fold, Bubbles1123 raises to 7 BB, fold, fold, fold, FoldPre2020 calls 5 BB

Flop: (15.5 BB, 2 players) 6 7 2
FoldPre2020 checks, Bubbles1123 bets 9 BB, FoldPre2020 calls 9 BB

Turn: (33.5 BB, 2 players) 6
FoldPre2020 checks, Bubbles1123 bets 33.5 BB, FoldPre2020 calls 33.5 BB

River: (100.5 BB, 2 players) K
FoldPre2020 checks, Bubbles1123 bets 40 BB, FoldPre2020 raises to 203.91 BB and is all-in, Bubbles1123 calls 163.91 BB

FoldPre2020 shows 9 A (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 32%, Flop 20%, Turn 25%)
Bubbles1123 shows K K (Full House, Kings full of Sixes)
(Pre 68%, Flop 80%, Turn 75%)
Bubbles1123 wins 504.07 BB
Rake paid 4.25 BB
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07-21-2020 , 12:44 AM
We are on a 16BI downswing at 100NL however I only feel I played a few hands bad. Here is my graph and at least my EV is good so that is all I can do I guess.

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07-21-2020 , 10:52 PM
Well everyone I finally was able to put together 2 winning sessions in a row again. It felt pretty darn good even though it is only 2 sessions and variance is a beast I know this first hand since I still ran a fair amount below EV even during these 2 sessions as you will see in the graph. However, it is very nice to play well and actually win again. I didn't feel I played my best at all last week due to how many hands I was trying to put in for the prop bet like I had mentioned. 10k hands is a little rough to be honest. If I play my casual normal play I will get about 30k hands a month or so and to me that is plenty. As long as I can play well and have a good BB/100 playing a couple fewer tables then it is worth it in my eyes because not only am I improving drastically by paying more attention to the tables and spots I am also able to capitalize on the mistakes the players are making because I am more focused on the game. It's a win win!!!

I haven't played anything else besides 100NL and 200NL as I am trying to put in more volume at these 2 stakes so I can hopefully get a stake and one day be able to move up to 400NL and it not freak me out I am kinda a bankroll nit now because I used to be so wild when I was younger

I still ran a fair amount below EV but I played very well and booked a win 2 sessions in a row so as you can tell I am usually a glass half full kind of a guy



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07-21-2020 , 11:23 PM
This hand was very interesting in my opinion. You get donk bet into a fair amount on Poker Bros so I am going to give my 2 cents on this hand and the player pool tendencies and maybe some of you all can help me out a little and let me know what you all think.

To start it seems by looking back over my hands on PB(Poker Bros) that when you get donked into it is usually 1 pair or a draw. Every now and then you will run into a competent reg who will lead a set in a multi-way pot but the standard is that it is a weak bet. However, when the Ace comes on the turn and vilian hits the 2/3 pot button same as he had done on the flop things get very interesting. Normally at this limit especially on PB they slow down a fair amount when the ace comes on the turn there. I am talking about with the donk betting by the way. This leads me to believe he could have flopped a 2 pair like a 10J or even a flopped straight possibly. There are a ton of hands that has us beat when he leads turn again let's just be honest. He will have a ton of those middling cards though and we can probably assume he is a fish once he cold calls from the small blind. Most good players these days are 3-bet or folding from the SB. With my gut shot to the nuts and top pair I do not think I can fold on the turn either as I only have to be good here around 30% of the time and I think we could be good possibly at this point maybe but we also have the opportunity to hit the straight or trip Jacks which may or may not be good. We know the straight is good of course but I only had 140 hands on the and he is playing VP30/PR7 so I think it is safe to assume he is a fish and calls off if we get there. He had donk bet 2/11 times when given the opportunity which isn't much so it could be more value heavy than most fishy players in the player pool it seems. That isn't many hands to go by though so all in all I think the river is certainly a fold because I only think we beat maybe QJ or a 910 that lost their minds.

Anyway, please help if you don't mind with this hand as I am a little confused on if maybe I should just fold turn or maybe even raise turn since I do block KQ that he never has betting this way I don't think. He would have sized up sized up bigger I think since I have so many strong hands at that point. Maybe ripping in his face on the turn or river isn't bad I don't know? HELP?!?! Please....

PokerBros - $2 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

FoldPre2020 (BTN): 158.31 BB
scollins (SB): 149.94 BB
Dizzle513 (BB): 102.5 BB
Poker222210 (UTG): 151.82 BB
R. Harrison (UTG+1): 202 BB
EC21 (MP): 97.84 BB
jessy92 (MP+1): 111.32 BB
W.G (CO): 51.93 BB

scollins posts SB 0.5 BB, Dizzle513 posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) FoldPre2020 has J K

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, FoldPre2020 raises to 2.5 BB, scollins calls 2 BB, fold

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) J 8 T
scollins bets 4 BB, FoldPre2020 calls 4 BB

Turn: (14 BB, 2 players) A
scollins bets 9.33 BB, FoldPre2020 calls 9.33 BB

River: (32.66 BB, 2 players) 6
scollins bets 21.77 BB, fold

scollins wins 30.78 BB
Rake paid 1.89 BB
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07-22-2020 , 07:23 PM
Maybe this is the worst fold of my life with a straight on the turn but this guy had not gotten out of hand yet and only overbets I seen from him were the nuts. For him to bet that big he either has a flush draw or the nuts IMO. Maybe he has an 8 but it just seems insane to me to bet that big with just a naked Ace. I don't want to have to call my whole stack off for a chop either. What do you all think?

PokerBros - $2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

FoldPre2020 (SB): 225.3 BB
bazaroff (BB): 540.3 BB
wanpearonli (UTG): 302.03 BB
bigrig7386 (MP): 79.32 BB
BaconPants (CO): 195.86 BB
Pleet87 (BTN): 275.82 BB

FoldPre2020 posts SB 0.5 BB, bazaroff posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) FoldPre2020 has 8 A

fold, fold, fold, fold, FoldPre2020 calls 0.5 BB, bazaroff raises to 2 BB, FoldPre2020 calls 1 BB

Flop: (4 BB, 2 players) 5 4 6
FoldPre2020 checks, bazaroff bets 3 BB, FoldPre2020 raises to 9 BB, bazaroff calls 6 BB

Turn: (22 BB, 2 players) 7
FoldPre2020 checks, bazaroff bets 72 BB, fold

bazaroff wins 20.65 BB
Rake paid 1.35 BB
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07-22-2020 , 08:31 PM
Not sure I can fold A8 there


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07-22-2020 , 09:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shynepo3
Not sure I can fold A8 there


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I wasn't happy about it at all but i know the turn bet is all in and do I want to call that for a chop?
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