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07-14-2016 , 08:06 PM

Riffle18

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Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 60

This propbet is that I, Riffle18, will reach at least 400.000 VPP and play at least 24.000 sit and goes in September, starting 1. September 00:00 EST and ending 30. September 23:59 EST.

Only Hyper-turbo 6 max sit and goes (no Satellites!) do count into the bet.

I have to show a profit with Rakeback at stakes from 7-200.

Swings at 300-1ks are too huge dollarwise and the volume you get in these is also very poor. That´s why I don´t include them. I played about 1600 games of 300-1ks this year with a total of 26k sit and goes already played.

During Scoop this year I had a VPP hourly of 1k but I only played the peak hours. This VPP hourly is achievable for maybe 5 hours a day. From 8 in the morning to about 6 in the evening there is usually very low traffic even at the lower stakes. Playing the peak 5 hours for 1k an hour will still leave me with 8k vpp to get in every single day. With approxametly 600-700 vpp an hour off peak I have to grind between 17 and 19 hours a day to make this possible.

I am already posting this now, 1 1/2 months prestart because I am going to travel in August and need to plan accordingly. This also gives me enough time to find and escrow and a judge.

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Preamble: All disputes will be arbitrated by the judge selected for this prop bet. His goal will be to determine appropriate judgments based on the spirit of bet, over the minutiae of the language. I have every intention of following these rules as faithfully as possible and will abide by the official decision of the judge.

1. This propbet is that I, Riffle18, will reach at least 400.000 VPP and play at least 24.000 sit and goes in September, starting 1. September 00:00 EST and ending 30. September 23:59 EST.
2. Odds are 4:1 in my favour.
3. The bet will be void if my account is banned for any reason
4. The bet will be void if poker legislation in Austria means I am only able to play with players from Austria (similar to the situation with pokerstars.fr) or will not be able to play at all
5. The bet will be void if PokerStars removes 6-max hyperturbo SnG's
6. The bet will be void if PokerStars reduces the maximum number of sit and go tables that can be played at once to 24 or lower.
7. The bet will be void if there is a death to my close relatives. I will need to provide full proof if this happens.
8. If I cannot play because PokerStars is down, the downtime will be added onto the end of the bet. I must post in this thread if I cannot play because PokerStars is down. I will then get the time between my post and when I start playing again added to the end of the bet. This is at the judges discretion.
9. Any disconnects on my part are my problem completely, if I lose money because pokerstars servers are acting up, these games and session will be void. This is also at judges discretion.
10. Scheduled server restarts will not count into rule #11 only if total number of hours of scheduled restarts is 12 or lower. Any downtime over 12 hours will be added onto the end of the bet.
11. I will not play with a webcam on for 30 days straight. Every person who bet against me will have the chance to randomly give me a videocall on skype when I am playing as often as they want to. If you want to bet and still are not certain this is enough proof you can add me in Skype and we will find another solution.
12. I will have to show a profit for the stakes 7-200 including my 45% Rakeback.
13. Until the 29th of August I have the chance to cancel the bet.

If you have any questions feel free to ask.

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07-14-2016 , 08:15 PM

slayerv1fan

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:O

Have never spoken to OP before, we've just played a lot against each other at 200-1k 25bb hypers, but can confirm traffic is really slow besides a very small block of time, usually starting a bit after the daily blue tournament (1k Super Tues/1k Thurs Thrill timeslot) for the next 5ish hours

Gl if you get this going, can potentially help you with judging or something if it's needed

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07-14-2016 , 08:45 PM

push4glory

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Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 479

gl man, sounds pretty hard with this traffic

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07-14-2016 , 10:03 PM

Mzbourg

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Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 6,670

why?

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07-14-2016 , 10:58 PM

AndyUK18

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Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 95

Traffic won't be the issue here as probably 15+ $7 games run 24/7. The challenge will be mass tabling for so many hours each day. GL sir.

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07-15-2016 , 12:09 AM

Egption

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Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 331

What odds are you giving?

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07-15-2016 , 01:54 AM

Riffle18

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Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 60

Thanks to my fellow hyper grinders for wishing me good luck so far :-)

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Originally Posted by Egption

What odds are you giving?

2. Odds are 4:1 in my favour.

You can click on the "show" button where it says Spoiler and you will see all the rules of the bet.

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07-15-2016 , 02:08 AM

Egption

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 331

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Originally Posted by Riffle18

Thanks to my fellow hyper grinders for wishing me good luck so far :-)

2. Odds are 4:1 in my favour.

You can click on the "show" button where it says Spoiler and you will see all the rules of the bet.

Jesus I'm an idiot how did I miss that.

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07-15-2016 , 02:54 AM

cheltNAM

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Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,204

How much you looking to bet?

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07-15-2016 , 11:52 AM

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Riffle18

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Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 60

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Originally Posted by cheltNAM

How much you looking to bet?

I want to have at least 15k I can win to start the bet. But can be much more I don´t care.

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07-15-2016 , 05:41 PM

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Zer0$killz

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Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 3

nice challenge
gl

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07-17-2016 , 01:14 PM

#12

t000piC

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Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2

wow, that´s gonna be very tough.
good luck with your challenge!

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07-17-2016 , 01:37 PM

#13

scurra

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Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 263

What's minbet?

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07-17-2016 , 02:23 PM

#14

Riffle18

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Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 60

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Originally Posted by scurra

What's minbet?

Your 100 vs my 25

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07-17-2016 , 07:22 PM

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Gramps

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Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 6,588

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Originally Posted by t000piC

wow, that´s gonna be very tough.
good luck with your challenge!

That depends in part in how many games you're going to help OP to get started

. You guys have probably played together more than any 2 regs this year.

There's not necessarily anything wrong with that, traffic is dead and it's hard to get games going most of the week. Just stating the obvious, in part b/c there's no rule against people assisting OP in getting games started and there have been past issues/disputes re: this type of thing in past propbets on here.

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08-13-2016 , 06:29 AM

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krendipont

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 186

If your calcs about VPP/hour and the resulting h/day you need to play are somewhat correct, then this challenge is not doable. No one is able to keep this up for one month physically and mentally.
Btw you have not mentioned health issues in your OP, which is definitely a huge factor.

I am sure you have played this through in your head several times and have come to another conclusion than me. I wish you good luck!

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09-02-2016 , 03:22 PM

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Zer0$killz

stranger

Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 3

canceled or already started ?

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09-05-2016 , 11:32 AM

#18

Nieko

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Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 39

He's not at the tables so canceled.

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