Good luck sir I know you can do it

Nice results lately man.

Keep up the good work.

This is awesome. I always tell myself if I just stuck to stuff like 2/180s for a while I could really boost my BR but I always get bored and play other MTTs / cash in like 1 day. I've played with you at some point on PS, but not sure where. Good Luck!

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Doing something similar myself, however with more modest goals for myself. GLGL in the 2.20 180s I just loaded 6 and shipped 1 WOOOOOO )

Thx man, if I get lucky I may end up in vegas for wsop this yr and we can meet up for drinks

Cheers, hapy to be running better now

Yeah I'm pretty similar. Like loads of poker players my main downfall is brm, I mean with a $20k br I was playing $5k of mtts on a sunday and investing $3k worth, so degen.
Hopefully this will get me on track and show for others the grinding low for a while is worth it at the end of the day.
Thanks, not a bad start, 6 and shipping 1, epic stuff! GL

Chillin_due your thread is motivating me to try the same thing even with the same 5 steps that you are following, but I wanna start out at $6 mtt with a $600 bankroll. My goal is around 7-15K by the end of may early june for the WSOP.....

dag i have ps3, sucks id def like to grind some fifa with you...anyway tho iirc you said u just got skype and are lookin for grinders to talk to....i dont have ne 180 grinders on skype besides the stable im in...if u dont mind it b great if u would ad me so we can talk strategy....loodachris99 on there,

Those sngs are turbos? I really want to make something like this but i'm not sure if its possible since i have a 100$ bank and a small monitor and i need to stack/cascade tables. What do you think? Is it possible? Playing so many tables do you really can take reads or its more an robotic poker?

you really motivated me, hope you can proly help me to see if i can be profitable playing 180/45s.

thanks and very good luck

Just saw this,wishing you lots of luck buddy,really hope things work out for you,which i'm sure they will.

Will check updates on this now and again,keep it up buddy.

really gl with this. browse MTTc alot and see u post regularly.

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Thanks, good to hear - I was hoping others would try it and hopefully succeed with similar steps. Maybe see you at wsop!
Booooo ps3!
And yeah I have skype, I'll add you.

Yeah they are turbos - they make my hourly $ much higher, and are the form of poker I have most experience and success with. If you have a small monitor you could still do it, just start out with say 6 tabling them on smallest setting, whilst tiling them I'd say. See how you do and go from there.

I do sometimes robot autopilot, however I like to think less so than most regs. I'm pretty sure of this because I make TONS and TONS of notes, I'd say per hour I'll make 6 or so, its pretty hard when you're 20tabling but I think notes are super crucial in assigning ranges and picking up patterns they take with various hands.

GL
Cheers Dem, what you grinding atm? Still binking the mtts? I'll be back to compete with you again soon no doubt

Thanks a lot, yeah MTTC is my home

Do you think the 180s are easiers than 45s? Or should i mix them? And using HUD stats at low limits have beneficts?

thanks for the info

Session 15
Firstly, I'm a little tilted atm, I wrote this whole thing out, longest to date - then the tab closed and I lost it all... Annoying, anyhow I'll start again.

So this is the first day that I'm updating a day late, which isn't good, but was an exception I believe. I had a decent session albeit again the volume was lacking.
Got up and decided to grind straight away once ready and try put in a big day, so 1:30pm I did a long session (for me) till 5:30. It was a decentish session for the mostpart, ran good in 45s and pretty bad in 180s, but thats standard.
The plan was to put in another session at night, however my other 3 housemates started playing xbox kinnect they've just got, and needed me to play so they could do 2v2, so I felt I should play that as opopsed to let them down and be the social outcast. Played that for like 5hours, good fun and a v good work out - if I do that for a while I wont be a fatty any more!
This did of course mean I only had the early grind count toward the day... oh well, brought up around $100 profit again, which is nice as means I'm strining together positive days again, yayyyyyyy!
Anyhow I am super super confident at to how I'm playing at the moment, and I don't feel that this is being results orientated. About half way through my session I wanted to make this post, and at that point I was down a fair bit but still confident, so I'm gonna talk a litttttle bit about strat for a chance.

STRAT
Over the past week or so I've changed the way I play early a fair bit, in the past I was limping all my low pps up to about t50, setmining - but this was my polarised range, I never limped face cards or anything. If I was going to play hands other than pps I would open raise them, or if there was a limper I would iso raise them. This was probably with KQ+, hands like KJ etc I was just folding. It suddenly dawned on me at one point, wtf are you doing? Yeah KT, QJ etc doesnt play great when you iso raise it and get called - as often they will have you dominated, so in effect you are value isoing yourself, however if you limp behind you are probably ahead of their range.
At the stakes I am playing atm there is a lot of limping going on, so say if theres a limper utg+1 and a limper mp and we're cutoff at t30, I will now be limper KT JT etc behind. This gives me a chance to hit my hand for cheap and value town them. Its so much more +EV than just folding them, because of the fact people not only limp so many hands, but they pay you off with them postflop as they aren't very good.
Even hands like KQos, before I would iso raise that up to t50 in basically any position. This was too robotic, and too typical reg like, I accept it. If utg limped I would be raising it utg+1 regardless. Now I look at the hud, say if he's got 40+% Vpip THEN I will raise it, because I'm WAY ahead of his range. If however he had 20%VPIP I will limp behind, because by isoing he's folding out the hands I beat and calling with better. So I've gone back to old school in a way - I'm limping behind a lot more. Even hands like K8s at t20 with 3 limpers before me on the button, I will limp it. Its 75bbs effective and people are so willing to pay off with their limped AA and 2nd pairs that limping hands like this that do have flush and 2pr draws is positive I believe.
Moral: Limping isn't only for fish.

Session Begin Bankroll: $1019.86
Session End Bankroll: $1113.33
Session Profit/Loss: $93.47
Seission Graph:



1500 SNG MTTS PLAYED UPDATE

Overall Profit/Loss: $813.33
Overall Hourly: $11.51
Overall Graph:
Overall Stats:



So after a bad start its good to see that the graph is turning itself around and going up at a nice 45ish degree angle, just like I was hoping for. As can be seen, finally getting back to a decent hourly - above what I would earn working part time at least, a massive positive boost.

Looking at the stats it is surprising so far that my hourly is higher for 45s than 180s. I think this is just variance, and that the 180 will go higher, realistically in these I would expect 40% of myself, though maybe that is a big big headed... Who knows! My 45 ROI I'm happy with, because I had a lot of leaks when I came back to them, and infact I'm pretty sure i still do, so would have snapped your hand off at 20% ROI in them. Hopefully if I iron out the last few leaks (still isoing a little too light on fts) then I can maintain this Roi, possibly creeping up to 22-23%.

Sooooo hopefully by Monday I will have run awesome and be taking shots at 12s!!!! Thanks and cya.

Oh, lastly I'll add my daily record as an after-thought, it shows that I'm going the right way I'd like to think though - 1 losing day in the last 10 I've played

I think 180s are easier than 45s for sure. However 180s have much higher variance, so for that reason I would play 45s if you can mix them as well. The only real adjustment you have to make is shipping tighter and isoing tigher in 45s. In 180s I'm shipping 12bbs with any 2face, any pps. In 45s its marginally tighter, probably like 7-8bbs and that is fine.

HUDstats - I am a MASSIVE fan of huds, I use them with almost every decision I make. Yes a lot of people will say thats not poker - and I accept I'm not a naturally tallented player, but I play with the tools there for me. The HUD makes it so much easier to assign a range, as I showed in my little strat bit above relating to the KQos Iso or raise hand. I think VPIP, PFR and Limp % are vital. These are the 3 that I display, and honestl they are crucial in decisions for me. They work REALLY well against regs, where some regs have average 3bet as 3% in which case I'm folding my JJ to them, some have 8% and I'm just getting it in (I'm relating to t100 playing about 1.8k stacks where I open t250).

Hope this helps

Nice stuff there about your strategy, real enjoyed that.
I'am going to transfer my bank from fulltilt to stars and hopefully i can beat those 45s and 180s.

With 100$ bank you think is fine to start from 1.10$ sngs?

Yeah I think that is the perfect place for you to start and work your way up

I will try to tile tables then like you do, just hope I can get enough volume to be profitable just 6 tabling.

I`m doing somthing like you, just started with $300 too and playing de 45s. But I don`t have time to grind hard (work + uni), so I make my plans looking at my reality.

Yesterday I played against you and noticed that you`re playing too LAG in the initial levels, but now, reading your post, I understand why. It`s something to think about.

If you want to add me on skype to talk about the game just PM me!
GL at the tables.

u should really get ps3, or maybe i shuda got xbox lol everyone i talk to who plays fifa always has 360 so i can never play them it really sucks, so i always just hafta go online and play randoms, kinda gay imo...o well tho gl this weekend!

Session 16
In many ways this session could be regarded as a huge success - luckily I haven't lost a GREAT deal.
For the past hour and a half I've been on the most just undescribable rage/tilt, whilst im typing this I feel like my face is on fire and i want to smash everything up in site. Luckily the logical side of my brain, and mainly the fact I live with other people it would wake up is stopping me from doing this.
Dont really know where this came from, the whole session its been underlying in me as wasnt in a good mood, and I guess a little bit of runbad brought it out.
Really dissapointing, wish I could robot more, emotions are dumb and a massive downfall for me in terms of poker (tilt control). Luckily I drew the day to a close about 30mins after prime of the rage kicked in so I didnt spew too much.
I dont think it affected my plays that much, obviously it will have subconsciously, but I was trying to make an effort to over-ride it in decision making modes.
Anyhow results wise, 180s absoloute rubbish again, just variance I feel as am running super attrocious when deep itm or on fts.
45s cashed loads but ran bad deep.


Session Begin Bankroll: $1113.33
Session End Bankroll: $1069.42
Session Profit/Loss: $48.23
Seission Graph:




Overall Profit/Loss: $769.42
Overall Hourly: $10.36



Big chance I wont be playing for a while, I got essays I need to focus on I should have started on already, and I need to try and make sure I'm not gonna get in this tilt/rage again anytime soon. I think maybe it was because I've had a stressfull 24hours relating to looking for places to live next door, and my gf being really down.

Ciao for now.

you should break a house imo ....gl with the school stuff....see ya back at the tables soon!

was that even you who said that, i beleive it was in the censored thread in mttc, i just remember thinkin like you must have been so pissed and frustrated and just goin nuts and i remember everyone was like wtf is break a house lol...i know the feeling tho wen ur just goin so crazy and it just comes out....

thats one of the few things that i read on 2p2 that legit made me lol fwiw

Interesting that you think 180s are easier than 45s; I'm actually of the opinion that it's the other way round, that 45s are easier than 180s, at least at the lowest levels. I don't have any experience at 12/45s so I can't really compare, but I'd say 1/45s and 3/45s are way easier than say, a 2/180. And that's not because of the variance, it's because I think the format is so much simpler, and therefore more easily mastered.

Nice to see you're running well though. Keep it going.

tt and chillin dude and also j dawg if you see this, latly ive been on a 200+ bi ds in 2/180s and i was thinkin maybe i needta start mixin in some 3/45s to reduce varience, wich i did today, and have been doing well, i played them mixed wit some 180s and it seems that the 45s keep me in the profit n keep my roi up, do you think its essential as a 180 grinder to mix in 3/45s with it to reduce variance...

til today ive never really played them and only een playing 180s, but im starting to think even wen im not on a ds i shud mix in 45s to reduce variance, thhoughts?

Why dont u play 6.50/45 now chillin?