River: ($193.58) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3, Hero calls $2.46 and is all-in
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Results: $198.50 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: 4 Q 9 7 3
BTN showed 5 4 and won $195.50 ($99.50 net)
SB showed 7 8 and lost (-$0.50 net)
BB showed K J and lost (-$6 net)
Hero showed 4 4 and lost (-$96 net)
MP showed 5 K and lostCO showed 7 J and lost
River: ($85.76) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO calls $153.93 and is all-in, Hero folds
Spoiler:
Results: $85.76 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: T 6 J 8 7
Hero showed Q Q and lost (-$42.63 net)
UTG showed A 7 and lostMP showed 9 3 and lostCO showed Q A and won $82.76 ($40.13 net)
BTN showed 6 4 and lostSB showed 9 Q and lost (-$0.50 net)
Since bovada reveals all the hands I looked at a lot of the medium pots I folded. I am either getting massively out played or there are a bunch of spewtards just raising everything. I guess I just need to call more when half-medium stacks make moves that don't make sense. Yesterday there were a lot of half stackers potting x turns and rivers.. Can't wait to see those hands...
Anyway.. Feeling pumped for day 4. Just finished 2nd cup of coffee. LETS GO!!!!!!
I'm not sure if HEM "knowing" all holecards affects this stat. I know I am not a wea-tight player and my WWSF is 37%. Broken's was 49% and he is ultra lag for Bovada. It also has to do with game play and if players at the 100nl are betting or calling they have something (generally obv).
This site is weird for many reasons, but I have looked at that stat a few times and wondered how mine is so low, but over my ~13k hands I have tracked I know I'm not weak-tight
this is delusional thinking. 37% wasn't even common 6 years ago when people were nut peddling.
37% is EXTREMELY weak tight. you win the bot 37% of the time you play it. The only way this is profitable is if the people you play with are shoving left and right and even then 37% is most likely giving you a very low winrate for the games you play in(theres no reason not to hit 10bb on bovada unless you play like 10hrs a day which would make you play bad)
My network used to be REALLY soft. I would open 9 to 12 tables of 4 handed and get 3 fish/whale on each table at 50nl and 100nl
my WWSF never got lower than 42~. Playing 900-1.2k hand per hour 4 handed vs people with no fold button.
im pretty sure that with 37 WWSF you could not beat 50+ for more than 1bb over 100k hands. You definitely need to work on your game and not wait for top set to play a pot
My network used to be REALLY soft. I would open 9 to 12 tables of 4 handed and get 3 fish/whale on each table at 50nl and 100nl
my WWSF never got lower than 42~. Playing 900-1.2k hand per hour 4 handed vs people with no fold button.
im pretty sure that with 37 WWSF you could not beat 50+ for more than 1bb over 100k hands. You definitely need to work on your game and not wait for top set to play a pot
I agree. Reviewing day 2 session with all hole cards was very interesting.
I am having so much trouble with these $50 stacks. Every hand they are blowing up pots I want to keep small(multiway or heads up), jaming with A high on low boards.. and calling 24Qcc flop cbets with 67o and runner runner. straight. I guess I let 'it' get there because I checked on turn with QJhc when turn 5c completed flush.
this is delusional thinking. 37% wasn't even common 6 years ago when people were nut peddling.
37% is EXTREMELY weak tight. you win the bot 37% of the time you play it. The only way this is profitable is if the people you play with are shoving left and right and even then 37% is most likely giving you a very low winrate for the games you play in(theres no reason not to hit 10bb on bovada unless you play like 10hrs a day which would make you play bad)
Hey I'm interested in this. WWSF number does also have to do with how many players are seeing the flop with you right? If you're on a soft site like bovada you're probably getting many multiway pots and then you can't really expect to win anything near 50% of the time. He has to sort so that it shows wwsf when hero is seeing flop with one other villain. If you mean that he should win more than that in multiway pots I'm interested in seeing what your thoughts is.
WOW just finished day 4. The first half was horrible. I played very bad. -$400. After reading ...|...'s post on my weak tight stats I felt like ****. I thought about quitting for the day and possibly giving up on the goal. I took a short break and posted all my stats. I got a little encouragement but realized that ...|... was right.
When I first got to 100nl zone I was very alert, thinking about hand ranges, ways to out play my opponents ect.
Some time after the first few days at 100nl I became complacent and started robot poker. It was so easy to just click the fold button and get a new hand. It made cbet flop, c/f turn too easy.
After I became conscious of what I was doing wrong I started playing 'poker' again.
I fired up the 100nl zone tables one last time. A few hands in I got it in bad vs Q9s in a 3bet multiway pot. He turned a straight with an 8h which gave me a SD+FD. -$500 for the day. I did not let that bother me and I continued to focus. I zoned in and started playing with smart aggression again.
I think day 4's HHs will be very interesting to see with hole cards. I can't wait to review them!
Bank roll is $3402. Even though today was a loss It feels like a win after that comeback!
I got a work tomorrow so I hope I wont be to tired to play my A game.
is that 3800 real dollars in 80k hand on swc? if yes why would you switch sites?
all your stats look fine for playing vs soft players. Maybe you fold a bit too much on flops
1000 = 1 btc. The value of 1 btc since I started has been $1000 - $250.
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How do you make reads when playing zoom if all the opponents are anonymous? Do you just try to play solid fundamental position poker?
The only information you really have to tell if they are a fish or reg is stack size. If you see someone with a 1k stack you can develop a read but other than that you have to go by feel and solid poker. I think some smarter players will reopen a fresh table when they double up so their stack size is back to 100bb to prevent other players from certain reads. The best players will probably keep a large stack but play more balanced.
I remember when i 4 tabled 200 like 6 years ago my hourly was only 120$ on a 22bb/100 stretch. When you think about 5bb winrates its like min wage at 100?
There is no working hud for zone games but on the regular tables the only working hud is holdem indicator which does not save session stats.
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how many hands per hour do you get during this?
I remember when i 4 tabled 200 like 6 years ago my hourly was only 120$ on a 22bb/100 stretch. When you think about 5bb winrates its like min wage at 100?
The past 3 days I've been getting 450-500 hph 5.2/100 with a $23 hourly. Average hourly @ 100nl, 24k hands is $32.
BTW I never really reviewed my HH until I started this challenge. This challenge has made it pretty obvious that I need to start studying to get past 100nl.
Day 1-3 graph. I tried to separate the days but I can't figure out how the filters work. I tried separating the dates and times according to the bovada but it still doesn't work. I might try HM1 but it misses a lot of hands when I import.
If you double click on one of the dates in the bottom of the pic there. I think that's what you're asking. But view by date first.
No because my sessions overlap two days. I tried filtering days 1-2. Then I put a filter for the time I played according to bovada, 20:00-0400. Still doesnt work. I also tried the same with local times.
HEM1 seems to work but it misses a lot of hands. My results are off $100+.