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Old 01-16-2019, 03:43 PM   #176
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why are chinese apps always 8 handed and not 6?
because 8 very lucky number!!!


and i first started out on pm with 6max ante games
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Old 01-17-2019, 12:13 AM   #177
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Re: 2019 - BALLZ TO THE WALL

Would be curious to know if anyone on here has played >100k hands at 5/10/20 or higher with 30+ vpip. All the players I know doing well at 102040 and higher are playing closer to 25% than 30. Not saying they're all right, just saying they're certainly doing something right.

As far as I'm aware, there isn't a ton of 6max nlh games on the network, it seems like PPP is mostly 6max and PM 8max, and the PLO on PM is 6m. But I guess it just comes down to what clubs you end up in.
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:11 AM   #178
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:57 AM   #179
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Plenty of 6 max and higher up games often run without filling up.
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Old 01-17-2019, 07:20 AM   #180
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I'm curious if guys commenting on 30+ vpip are taking everything into account and have actually played at least a few 100k hands on apps with such vpip?

For starters rake can be from 5% to 7%. In some clubs you also have to buy insurance from time to time, which effectively increases rake even more. People openraise anywhere from 5 bb to 9bb, mostly around 8bb. Isolates are retardedly big as well. Stack depth varies considerably. You've got fellas with whom effective stacks are 400-800bb and than you've got guys with ~100bb who can and will punish extra loose play.

I simply can't see how having a 30% vpip (with the current meta) can be more optimal than 25-26%... (but I might be wrong, sure)

Edit: all "optimal play" calculations I've seen are based on artificial conditions which are never met in real play (like 4bb open raises and static stack sizes).

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Old 01-17-2019, 07:32 AM   #181
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few 100k hands on these sites takes far too long. its going to wipe off like 99% of people who have an opinion on it.

Rake is on session winnings , not on flopped pots so it doesnt matter if you pay 50% or take 1% rake on these apps when it comes to vpip

What winrates are you seeing from these 25% guys then?

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Old 01-17-2019, 08:21 AM   #182
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For me there's a sweet spot in softer games between going after optimal wr/hand and not being in a retarded spot with a weak hand vs a sticky rec all day and burning out.

I should prob be at 35+ vpip at the softer site I play but cutting it down closer to 30 cuts away a significant effort to get that last bit of diminishing returns.

For me that's a very real factor. I might be weird but the more reasonable nitty play at pokerstars let's me play about 3-4x as many hands for the equivalent exhaustion level compared to a site with soft sticky games where you're forced to think on your feet to face non standard stuff all day.
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Old 01-17-2019, 08:27 AM   #183
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Re: 2019 - BALLZ TO THE WALL

Isn't rake not taken from the pot though? doesn't matter what % it is if it's not correlated to size of the pot.
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Old 01-17-2019, 08:37 AM   #184
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yeha its the same concept as mtts, you pay rake in mtts but not on the table, so you can vpip a bit more in each respective positions
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Old 01-17-2019, 10:40 AM   #185
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few 100k hands on these sites takes far too long. its going to wipe off like 99% of people who have an opinion on it.

Rake is on session winnings , not on flopped pots so it doesnt matter if you pay 50% or take 1% rake on these apps when it comes to vpip

What winrates are you seeing from these 25% guys then?
TBH it's just as easy to get to a few hundred k sample on these sites as any other imo. PM has been around a while.

Today's in the books,



Reasonable day overall!

The 2019 Grind Penthouse!?

So with my lease up in a couple months, I've been looking at what options I have re moving. A few of my mates expressed interest in getting a grind house going, and I went today to inspect what might just be THE ONE! Pics below.

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So it's a ***** 710sqm 5 bedroom apartment with amazing sea views and a pretty baller jacuzzi... Looking at about 125k a month rent. So far there's two of us locked as definitelys, 1 90% locked in, and 1-2 probablies.

Will not only be a sweet place to live but to be surrounded by very very good poker players will be an absolute treat.
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Old 01-17-2019, 10:42 AM   #186
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Is that 125k pp or for the whole place?
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Old 01-17-2019, 10:58 AM   #187
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omfg. we just signed for a new place in london for more than that (3 bed house) and it looks like a ****ing hovel compared I need to move to thailand

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Old 01-17-2019, 11:08 AM   #188
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omfg. we just signed for a new place in london for more than that (3 bed house) and it looks like a ****ing hovel compared I need to move to thailand
and you took smit away from me for some crusty london apartment.

we could have had it all in thailand
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Old 01-17-2019, 11:10 AM   #189
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sick place. 600 per person. holy moly
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Old 01-17-2019, 11:26 AM   #190
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that is beautiful
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Old 01-17-2019, 11:48 AM   #191
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Looks rubbish....



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Old 01-17-2019, 02:01 PM   #192
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how are you going to sneak LBs back in a 5 man app.

sick digs tho.
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:10 PM   #193
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and you took smit away from me for some crusty london apartment.

we could have had it all in thailand
it's not crusty! It's super nice. But it aint got **** on that thailand pad obv
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:57 PM   #194
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jfc I thought my place was nice
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Old 01-17-2019, 04:19 PM   #195
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Glass coffee table perfect for snorting lines of Melatonin
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Old 01-17-2019, 04:30 PM   #196
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Dude, that place looks awesome! Living the dream meale!
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Old 01-17-2019, 08:58 PM   #197
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Yeah dude, that's the one. Making me rethink my lifestyle
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Old 01-17-2019, 11:49 PM   #198
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Is that 125k pp or for the whole place?
That's 125k baht total per month! So 25k each if we get 5 of us!

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omfg. we just signed for a new place in london for more than that (3 bed house) and it looks like a ****ing hovel compared I need to move to thailand
Not to mention the ****e weather! GTF Over here m8!

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sick place. 600 per person. holy moly
Yeah I'll be pretty pleased if we can get it aaye!

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that is beautiful
IKR!

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how are you going to sneak LBs back in a 5 man app.

sick digs tho.
Gonna have to cross that bridge when we get there. :')

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jfc I thought my place was nice
I keep telling you, you picked the wrong country m8!

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Glass coffee table perfect for snorting lines of Melatonin
Omg <3 You ***** know it :')

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Dude, that place looks awesome! Living the dream meale!
Not yet! But hopefully in a couple months!

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Yeah dude, that's the one. Making me rethink my lifestyle
You should rock up mate. It's about time you moved out!
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:37 AM   #199
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Heya Meale, thought I better officially subscribe, been following since the sad demise of your Thailand degen thread. Now that the fasting talks over and im back from my cruise (in and out of Brisbane) thought I'd join in. Heading to your old old local the Treasury for hopefully some 2/5 tonight! Glad to see you back on the grind but I think to not disappoint the degen in all of us a story or degen night is required as a monthly cheat on your schedule.
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Old 01-18-2019, 01:19 AM   #200
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Heya Meale, thought I better officially subscribe, been following since the sad demise of your Thailand degen thread. Now that the fasting talks over and im back from my cruise (in and out of Brisbane) thought I'd join in. Heading to your old old local the Treasury for hopefully some 2/5 tonight! Glad to see you back on the grind but I think to not disappoint the degen in all of us a story or degen night is required as a monthly cheat on your schedule.
Good to have you in m8! I hope the waitlist at Tres isn't too bad tonight mate, gl gl!

Re the degenning, I did my monthly evening out three nights ago but it was somewhat of an anticlimactic night. Just got insaaanely drunk and chilled at gogobars all night with the boys. Will try organise something a bit more exciting for the next one! Which will probably coincide with a visa run shortly too.

I've just finished a 48 hour fast, just did legs as well, and downed 5 bacon rashers, 2 sausages, 6 eggs, and a 200g steak. And boy do I feel good! Gameplan now is to go chill outside for a bit and then get back on the grind!
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