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Old 11-27-2019, 10:52 PM   #851
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Re: 2019 - BALLZ TO THE WALL

Any amount you deposit you need to rollover 1x before you play. I made the account near the end of the month right before I pay rent. If I shipped the whole 20k onto the new account, I'd need to play it through before being able to withdraw anything.


ok so why not do multiple transfers? Send your rent in advance? Who waits last minute? Anyways i doubt that rollover thing is true as 2 months ago i redeposited after withdrawing all my balance and only played like 5k hands before withdrawing again.


8 tabling bodog IS cheating. They limit the # of tables to keep the games more fair, going around this is cheating.

There's hundreds of non 2p2rs discussing this thread and none of them think you make any sense whatsoever. All you,ve done since you moved from stars is angleshoot and your counter arguments have been horribly weak and senseless, it seems philosophy thinking doesn't help to make plans to hide your cheating.


We all know the only reason you have this thread and reply vaguely is because you NEED to be active on 2p2 to get rakeback and colluding clients.
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Old 11-27-2019, 10:55 PM   #852
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So what are some rb deals on ignition? Which affiliate should I go with?
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Old 11-27-2019, 10:56 PM   #853
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I think what people were missing is that you don't have a crypto wallet of your own and just transferred it directly from bodog1 to bodog2. It's admittedly unusual and you could have saved some pain this way. Send $xk to your btc wallet, wd what you need for life expenses from bodog1, then deposit from btc wallet to bodog2. Also less likely to draw attention to your account if not transferring between their bitcoin accounts. Unfortunate situation man
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Old 11-27-2019, 11:09 PM   #854
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I think what people were missing is that you don't have a crypto wallet of your own and just transferred it directly from bodog1 to bodog2. It's admittedly unusual and you could have saved some pain this way. Send $xk to your btc wallet, wd what you need for life expenses from bodog1, then deposit from btc wallet to bodog2. Also less likely to draw attention to your account if not transferring between their bitcoin accounts. Unfortunate situation man
I didn't really see the point withdrawing to a wallet when the money is going straight back to bodog anyway, just saves me on fees by not doing that. I also wasn't too concerned if bodog saw me send between wallets because there was never any intention to deceive them to begin with.

Unfortunate situation indeed!
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Old 11-27-2019, 11:32 PM   #855
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Re: 2019 - BALLZ TO THE WALL

Hard to believe someone whoís been around as long as you have couldnít have figured out the issue with creating a second account.

Also itís not the first time youíve been accused of cheating on apps and/or being scum.
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Old 11-27-2019, 11:35 PM   #856
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I said something regrettable and apologized for it.



I was simply referencing the large amount of useless posts with negative undertones specifically written to just troll/annoy/irritate other people--i.e. trolls.

Youíve said something regrettable a few times on stream. Can only imagine what youíre like off stream.
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Old 11-27-2019, 11:40 PM   #857
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I didn't really see the point withdrawing to a wallet when the money is going straight back to bodog anyway, just saves me on fees by not doing that. I also wasn't too concerned if bodog saw me send between wallets because there was never any intention to deceive them to begin with.

Unfortunate situation indeed!
The point would be to avoid even the slightest risk of getting your account/s blocked and losing your networth. Seems like a good point to me and being in a circle of many other experienced bodog players I would think you would have been fully aware of such risks..
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Old 11-28-2019, 12:26 AM   #858
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The point would be to avoid even the slightest risk of getting your account/s blocked and losing your networth. Seems like a good point to me and being in a circle of many other experienced bodog players I would think you would have been fully aware of such risks..
he literally admitted that all his friends are multiaccounting on a site that bans people and just don't reply to their email. He isnt the brightest, if a bodog rep sees this thread they will look for his account then find his affiliate and look into the cheaters. The affiliate would lose his revenu as well.

50cent btc fee is not worth your account safety!


Would be a shame if someone contacted bodog with all this info
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Old 11-28-2019, 12:26 AM   #859
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At the end of the day you guys can decide for yourself what you want to believe but you'll never ever find evidence of me cheating, ever, on account of it never having happened. In light of that, if you choose to believe this lunatic dunbrussian, be my guest, because imo you're just as much scum as he is.



I suggest going through all of his posts at some point. The account was made for no other reason than to slander me. And I actually don't know why either. Anyone who is reputable or actually knows me can vouch I've never scammed anyone.



Be very careful with your words. I never ever defended multiaccounting. I said that I don't consider people who multiaccount "cheaters". I know several people who play on ignition who play 4 table of 6max and then use a remote desktop to add up to 4 tables of full ring on the same site. That to me is ethically dubious but isn't actually affecting the integrity of any one individual table.

Now if they multiaccount and play 2 accounts on the same table, obviously that's cheating and is very wrong and I condemn those people.

Ive never done it myself for several reasons,
1. I haven't played more than 4 tables since January this year, actually not true, I added a 5th table on Stars for a week or two earlier this year, but ended up removing it because I felt my focus drop.
2. I don't own more than 1 PC.
3. Ever since I started working with my coach, the very first thing I was told was to reduce tables and spent a long time 3 tabling before adding a 4th. Since then I've basically been condemning regs/pros who play 7+ tables as idiots who are shooting themselves in the foot for doing so.



I did address it. Can you read?

Any amount you deposit you need to rollover 1x before you play. I made the account near the end of the month right before I pay rent. If I shipped the whole 20k onto the new account, I'd need to play it through before being able to withdraw anything.

Secondly, as soon as I made the new account, it was immediately banned anyway. I didn't know this at the time and just thought there was an error with the software. As soon as you'd login to the client it'd say welcome and then "error establishing connection" before logging me out again. This only happened on the new account and I could login and play fine on the old one. So since I couldn't actually play on the new account, I decided to move over a small amount of my bankroll initially via the browser cashier before waiting for this connection error thing went away.

Days pass, I email support asking why I can't login and what's wrong with the client, get told the system has automatically blocked access for the new account to access poker. Which makes sense honestly, since I registered it under the exact same IP ardress as my main account and with the same name/details. Why would I do this if I was intentionally trying to jib the system? I actually had a phone call with my new affiliate discussing what the best way for me to create the second account in the first place would be, since my main account is tied to my Thai bank account and eventually I'd want to close that account and link the new one to it. Decided best course of action would be to be honest, use same IP and details, transfer bankroll over to the new account, and then request for the initial account to be disabled.



Tbh I think the affiliate did actually confirm the account was tracking properly before I deposited. The main reason I didn't xfer the full 20k was the rollover, combined with the fact I couldn't actually access poker to play on the new account. Oh and forgive me for not wanting to send most of my net worth in a single btc transaction ffs



It's completely ****ing ******ed. I discovered this one day when my first affiliate sent me rakeback payment direct to my bodog wallet address (i.e. bankroll) and the next day I tried withdrawing money to my bank account to pay for rent and the transaction was denied. I asked support why and they told me I had something like 50k baht I needed to play through before withdrawing. Turns out any deposit you make needs to be turned over before you can cash out ANY of your existing bankroll, i.e. opposite system to how stars do it.

Similarly on my second account when I put the 7k on it and support told me it was blocked from poker, I asked them to let me cash it out and they said I needed to roll it over before I could do so. Rolling over 7k isn't hard on poker but because I was blocked from poker they literally told me to go play slots in the casino if I wanted to cash it out :') to which I told them to get absolutely ****ed and I've been abusing them in emails since.





I've answered this above. I don't think any of my moves regarding this have been stupid. Imo shipping 20k+ in a single btc transaction to an account that doesn't work is stupid. If anything I think I've been really smart about this whole process and haven't tried to deceive bodog one bit. I've been fully transparent.

That's the last I'm going to say on the matter for now. If you still choose not to believe me, more powa to ya!
Who blindly sends thousands of dollars to an account that you canít log into? How could a person even manage to deposit correctly if theyíre unable to log in? Especially with crypto. Are you really that stupid?

[] ******ed
[] cheat

Pick one
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Old 11-28-2019, 12:27 AM   #860
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Re: 2019 - BALLZ TO THE WALL

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he literally admitted that all his friends are multiaccounting on a site that bans people and just don't reply to their email. He isnt the brightest, if a bodog rep sees this thread they will look for his account then find his affiliate and look into the cheaters. The affiliate would lose his revenu as well.

50cent btc fee is not worth your account safety!


Would be a shame if someone contacted bodog with all this info
Wtf is wrong with you. Get a life.
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Old 11-28-2019, 12:28 AM   #861
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Wtf is wrong with you. Get a life.


Can defend meale all you want but DumbRussian isnít wrong. Tons of things dont add up. The depositing and btc fees are only a few of those.
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Old 11-28-2019, 12:41 AM   #862
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How could a person even manage to deposit correctly if they’re unable to log in?
Open your eyes and fkn read for a change.

I said I could log into the browser based cashier to deposit, which lead me to believe not being able to login to the client was a bug.
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Old 11-28-2019, 01:53 AM   #863
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Re: 2019 - BALLZ TO THE WALL

I might have missed something, but apparently you could have told the support your plan and got approval before setting up the new account?
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Old 11-28-2019, 01:57 AM   #864
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I might have missed something, but apparently you could have told the support your plan and got approval before setting up the new account?
I could have, yes. And definitely should have in hindsight.
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Old 11-28-2019, 02:03 AM   #865
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I could have, yes. And definitely should have in hindsight.


Youíre not actually this dumb right? Surely you donít also actually expect people to believe this story right?
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Old 11-28-2019, 02:21 AM   #866
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I could have, yes. And definitely should have in hindsight.
Is creating a second account to get a rakeback deal really something Bodog allows? Presumably they close your first account and you forfeit the first deposit bonuses on your new account?
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Old 11-28-2019, 02:28 AM   #867
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Ye its hard to believe you could be willfully reckless with so much money at stake. This is the kind of thing you triple check is above board before you even consider it. Maybe banging ladyboys degrades brain cells, who knows.
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Old 11-28-2019, 03:18 AM   #868
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Is creating a second account to get a rakeback deal really something Bodog allows? Presumably they close your first account and you forfeit the first deposit bonuses on your new account?
It's possibly not allowed, I'm not sure. I would think that if an affiliate wasn't fulfilling payments as advertised, it wouldn't be terribly unreasonable to seek out another affiliate who would pay the right money.

But I can definitely see an argument that it's not allowed, since I'm already a member of the site and affiliate deals are essentially to get people to sign up in the first place.

Regardless, the right course of action for Bodog would be to tell me I'm not allowed to use the new account and have to stay with the original account. They actually asked me in an email about a week ago which account I wanted to use for poker, so we can then close the other account. That would be best case scenario and honestly pretty reasonable from them.

It's certainly not something I should be banned from the site for though IMO, especially since I wasn't even able to play a single hand of poker on the second account and have never played more than 1 account at once, obviously. And it CERTAINLY doesn't warrant confiscating funds.

I'm still confident they'll at least give me my money back after they take their time completing their review. If they want to ban me for something so trivial as this, they're welcome to. I'll just go rake Pokerstars $100k a year instead.
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Old 11-28-2019, 06:07 AM   #869
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People aren't allowed to make a second account on Bodog for the $600 signup bonus if they miss it initially so they're certainly not going to allow a second account for rakeback. Sounds like you're ****ed for at least $7k.
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Old 11-28-2019, 06:52 AM   #870
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People aren't allowed to make a second account on Bodog for the $600 signup bonus if they miss it initially so they're certainly not going to allow a second account for rakeback. Sounds like you're ****ed for at least $7k.
thats 70bi at the z100 games that hes currently losing at.

damn boi
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Old 11-28-2019, 07:15 AM   #871
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my bad if you answered this already, but are both accounts frozen and can you at least play poker on one of them?

dont see the big deal here .... they put money back into original account, and LFG? what is there to investigate here? lol
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Old 11-28-2019, 07:17 AM   #872
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Both accounts are frozen
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Old 11-28-2019, 07:23 AM   #873
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Both accounts are frozen
thanks. (and ouch :/ )



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thats 70bi at the z100 games that hes currently losing at.

damn boi
feel free to screenshot your balance and show us some huge number. cant say hes losing @ 100nl when hes posting 5/10 hh's and showing 30k+ balances. do you at least have 10% of that?

On old ftp you would at least need a buyin to rail and talk crap, something tells me you wouldnt be able to say shieeet ya little brroke miserable turd. toodles.
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Old 11-28-2019, 07:32 AM   #874
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dont see the big deal here .... they put money back into original account, and LFG? what is there to investigate here? lol
I'm assuming the intent to multiaccount's going to push them to take the money.

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Old 11-28-2019, 08:13 AM   #875
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10k freeroll to anybody who can show a single piece of evidence proving Meale has ever cheated in any way.

Also willing to Xbook huge on any of you trolls doubting his poker ability and willing to play him HU.


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