Only one exception possible i guess, well, enjoy guys

Sounds great but the problem with this is that the nits are going to be the only people staying in on a Saturday night to watch a poker podcast!

Podcast starts in 5 minutes.
Nits allowed, we're desperate...

Cliffs?

Missed like half of it, upload it plzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

very nice podcast!!
gazyb is natural if this is his first time

-future of online always uncertain but he thinks it has at least a few more years and that people can still very much come up in the game
-piosolver is the s*it, but tricky to use it properly. Recommends it even for 50NL.
-promoted bluff the spot CFP and announced he's organising a grind house in Malta and accepting applications
-lots of respect for Sauce, jungleman and even more for Trueteller
-respect for dnegs
-f*cking hates mexican and thinks he's a piece of s*it luckbox who can't play poker
-redbaron still firmly at #1 for 6m but he could see Linus(with whom he's friends) catch up
-doesn't think real time HS dream machines are possible and botty people (OBORRA) just do a ton of solver work
-500NLz beatable even for non elite players (he estimates one fish per table on average).
-500NLz power rankings. Didn't really pay attention because I don't know the SNs except Jakeeeee who he confirmed is very good.

Great cliffs also!

Anyone remember the 500z powerrankings, missed it

dont remember a lot of it but i remember him specifically saying how good he thinks progressive is and that he doesn't get any credit for being really good.

Dnegs is a good guy but he's a moron at the same time.
I think real time dream machines are possible, and probably being used in some way, but not in the way that people think.
Couldn't up with a power ranking for 500 Zoom because the pool changes very often.

Yeah 100% dreammachines aren't really possible yet IMO. But some sort of system possible to query flopsolutions of a huge database + realtime turn+river calculation is what I think is likely in use for some persons at MS/HSNL. This sort of system shouldn't be impossible to make already, and I'm afraid over next few years, there's gonna be multiple persons with this kind of stuff.

We live in scary times.

decision tree is static, computing power grows exponentially, the outcome is rather obvious, and more a question of when, not if. lotta comas

I have no clue about that solver **** but id assume you dont need an exact solution for each spot, just an approximation should be good enough to print. And i'd be shocked if teh russians didnt came up w something realtime oreddi after i've seen what they were capable to do w hand2note alone...

no

doubles appox every two years, not exponentially. point still the same.

Is that not exponential?

well yes, but i think his point is that the exponential growth observed in moore's law isn't sustainable so that rate decreases, and from what i read that's the current projected growth rate? anyhow I'm not a pro at that stuff just pointing out what seems obvious in regards to solvers/bots(inevitable). /derail

mexican vs hero 20k stars

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/16...l#post52059195

Check out this link about moving to Malta, if you like



I don't have any pretty thread savers on hand, so I'll post a couple of hand histories...


Thin

Stacks:
UTG ($2,884.98) 58bb
UTG+1 ($5,985.62) 120bb
MP1 ($3,206.40) 64bb
MP2 ($13,097.47) 262bb
MP3 ($9,626.39) 193bb
CO ($6,774.37) 135bb
BTN Hero ($5,543.02) 111bb
SB ($5,050) 101bb
BB ($1,769.60) 35bb

Pre-Flop: (75, 9 players) Hero is BTN 10 9
UTG raises to $150, 5 folds, Hero calls $150, 1 fold, BB calls $100
Flop: 9 K 9 ($475, 3 players)

BB checks, UTG bets $472, Hero calls $472, BB folds

Turn: 4 ($1,419, 2)
UTG bets $708, Hero calls $708

River: A ($2,835, 2)
UTG bets $1,416, Hero raises to $2,832, UTG goes all-in $138.98

Final Pot: $7,221.98
Hero shows three of a kind, Nines
10 9
UTG shows two pair, Kings and Nines
K 8

Hero wins $7,218.98 (net +$3,056.98)

Stacks:
UTG ($11,251.48) 113bb
UTG+1 ($13,238.64) 132bb
CO Hero ($10,000) 100bb
BTN ($11,357.50) 114bb
SB ($10,420) 104bb
BB ($10,029.30) 100bb



3bet light, bet bad turn, win

Pre-Flop: (150, 6 players) Hero is CO 3 A
UTG raises to $200, 1 fold, Hero raises to $700, 3 folds, UTG calls $500
Flop: 5 J Q ($1,550, 2 players)

UTG checks, Hero bets $509.85, UTG calls $509.85

Turn: 8 ($2,569.70, 2)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1,975.47, UTG goes all-in $10,041.63, Hero goes all-in $6,814.68

River: A ($21,401.48, 2), 2 all-in

Final Pot: $21,401.48
UTG shows a straight, Eight to Queen
9 10
Hero shows a flush, Ace high
3 A

Hero wins $20,145 (net +$10,145)



Questionable play on every street, get punished

Stacks:
SB ($31,950.96) 160bb
BB Hero ($56,224.36) 281bb

Pre-Flop: (300, 2 players) Hero is BB 7 7
SB raises to $500, Hero raises to $2,200, SB calls $1,700
Flop: 3 8 7 ($4,400, 2 players)

Hero bets $1,698.50, SB calls $1,698.50

Turn: A ($7,797, 2)
Hero bets $5,582.28, SB calls $5,582.28

River: 9 ($18,961.56, 2)
Hero goes all-in $46,743.58, SB goes all-in $22,470.18

Final Pot: $88,175.32
SB shows a flush, Queen high
Q 6
Hero shows three of a kind, Sevens
7 7

SB wins $63,898.92 (net +$31,947.96)



Flush

Stacks:
SB Hero ($45,517.77) 228bb
BB ($19,700) 99bb

Pre-Flop: (300, 2 players) Hero is SB J 3
Hero raises to $500, BB raises to $1,800, Hero calls $1,300
Flop: 4 9 5 ($3,600, 2 players)

BB bets $1,798.50, Hero calls $1,798.50

Turn: A ($7,197, 2)
BB checks, Hero bets $2,824.02, BB raises to $6,162.95, Hero goes all-in $41,919.27, BB goes all-in $9,938.55
First Run:

River 1: Q ($32,608.89, 2), 2 all-in

Second Run:

River 2: 2 ($32,608.89, 2), 2 all-in

Final Pot: $65,217.77
BB shows a flush, Ace high
7 6
Hero shows a flush, Ace high - Jack higher
J 3

Hero wins $65,214.77 (net +$19,697)

Grind house in Malta sounds like the dream. Some day...

What do you mean by "bet bad turn"?

he meant bad turn bet

subbed, i will read it tomorrow from the beginning, gl

Sarcasm