Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL 2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL

09-24-2020 , 05:01 AM
When the discussion of RTA is brought up i have seen/read you mention that you have ~10 players that you suspect of stuff, how come you dont ever mention who you think those players are?

Surely it is good for you to bring concerns to the table and allow those players to quickly and easily subdue those concerns
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
09-24-2020 , 05:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HoleInOne11
When the discussion of RTA is brought up i have seen/read you mention that you have ~10 players that you suspect of stuff, how come you dont ever mention who you think those players are?

Surely it is good for you to bring concerns to the table and allow those players to quickly and easily subdue those concerns
Because it would just be slandering. Shouldnt ever play w rep of people with no solid f-in proof
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
09-24-2020 , 06:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomalice
Because it would just be slandering. Shouldnt ever play w rep of people with no solid f-in proof
Slandering would be if you proclaimed 100% they're cheating. Coming out with a statement like "I'm suspicious because of these reasons" should be encouraged. Because how often does anyone have solid proof for these things? The evidence in the Kruse thread is about as solid as it will ever get and still there have been people not satisfied that it's proven beyond any doubt. This "be silent until you have 100% undeniable solid proof" just saves cheaters and makes their life really easy.
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
09-24-2020 , 09:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomalice
Because it would just be slandering. Shouldnt ever play w rep of people with no solid f-in proof
Well it's possible that they deal with rumours/concerns internally within the high stakes community. Perhaps that is the optimal way to do it but then it does make it very inhibiting for anyone who wants to play in those games as they are not aware of the people who may or may not have suspicion.

What filismies did with linus might also not have been the optimal way but he got a response and linus cleared his name very quickly. I reckon there is a better way than straight outting someone vs keeping it very hush hush.


Even with all the evidence against Kruse it took days for someone to actually post his SN
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
09-24-2020 , 10:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HoleInOne11
Well it's possible that they deal with rumours/concerns internally within the high stakes community. Perhaps that is the optimal way to do it but then it does make it very inhibiting for anyone who wants to play in those games as they are not aware of the people who may or may not have suspicion.

What filismies did with linus might also not have been the optimal way but he got a response and linus cleared his name very quickly. I reckon there is a better way than straight outting someone vs keeping it very hush hush.


Even with all the evidence against Kruse it took days for someone to actually post his SN
I'd like to formally accuse HoleInOne11 of being the biggest RTA cheat in the whole of poker he has been getting away with it for years and I'm sick of it!! I have no proof but have a very strong feeling about this.

Do you see how this doesn't really work?
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
09-24-2020 , 10:24 AM
Excellent argument, A+ 2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
09-24-2020 , 10:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomalice
Because it would just be slandering. Shouldnt ever play w rep of people with no solid f-in proof
shouldn't ever claim you know 10 cheaters on a public platform with hundreds of viewers, and then do nothing about it.
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
09-24-2020 , 11:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.E.C
I'd like to formally accuse HoleInOne11 of being the biggest RTA cheat in the whole of poker he has been getting away with it for years and I'm sick of it!! I have no proof but have a very strong feeling about this.

Do you see how this doesn't really work?
not suggesting to do this without any proof and just feeling.

Dono just wondering where the line is between a feeling and proof might lie
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
09-24-2020 , 11:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HoleInOne11
not suggesting to do this without any proof and just feeling.

Dono just wondering where the line is between a feeling and proof might lie
I apoligise I kinda misunderstood your thoughts and and thought you were ok with the Filimmes example you used which showed how making accusations on feeling alone is terrible.


As for the bolded I'm really not sure so will shut up
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
09-24-2020 , 02:41 PM
We have a skype chat with virtually every reg in the game where we discuss who is suspicious, and how we can make the game as fair as possible.

There is no upside to me throwing out names in a public forum with no concrete evidence. That may really hurt them and that is not my intention.
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
09-25-2020 , 12:04 PM
500 1k 2k GG game review starting now! https://www.twitch.tv/bluffthespot
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
09-25-2020 , 03:58 PM


31

Happy Birthday to Jacob Carl Schindler better known as Jake Schindler or should we say best poker player of Pennsylvania state with 25,269,982 $ live earnings,he just turn 31 Isn’t that beautiful

Schindler began playing live tournaments in 2009. Schindler plays online on PokerStars under the alias CaLLitARUSH. In September 2013, he won the World Championship of Online Poker earning nearly $150,000.His first success at the World Series of Poker was in 2011 where he cashed in the $5,000 No Limit Hold'em - Six Handed and the $1,000 No Limit Hold'em events. In August 2018, Schindler won the SHRPO High Roller for $800,758, defeating Shaun Deeb heads up.Later that year Schindler WPT Five Diamond 100k event, winning $1,332,000 in the process.In the 2018 year, he made 31 final tables, the record for the year, beating Stephen Chidwick who made 26.His success in 2018 earned him the ?”Card Player“ Player of the Year Award.
Today Schindler is playing toughest poker games in the world on GG network.
GG network is one of the biggest and most safest poker nework in the world, they invest so much money in player safety and security and do everything to protect everybody from potential bots and AI that they even hire best player and best detective in the world …
No i dont talk about Batman.

I am talking about BrynMan or better known as Bryn Kenney.

Bryn Kenney is best poker player in the world ever and expert in online poker cheating,he is like USADA in UFC and if he spot you and see you do something ilegal or unfair ,he will bann you at least for year if not for life so be honest,good and play fair!!!
P.S.We love you Schindler and wish you best of luck in your early 30s ,we wish you a lot more final tables and big pots win.Thank You for everything.

BEST REGARDS FROM BIG PART OF BTS COMMUNITY!!

Guys stay safe ,grind poker and watch MMA..We all know who are best out there!!
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
09-29-2020 , 12:31 AM
Some late night hands

UTG: $20,968.92 (419 bb)
MP: $9,493.99 (190 bb)
CO: $4,347.24 (87 bb)
BU: $12,997.08 (260 bb)
SB: $1,681.61 (34 bb)
BB (Hero): $11,845.10 (237 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($75) Hero is BB with 5 5
3 players fold, BTN raises to $125, 1 fold, Hero calls $75

Flop: ($275) 3 5 Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $90, Hero raises to $317.50, BTN raises to $1,000, Hero calls $682.50

Turn: ($2,275) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1,706.25, Hero calls $1,706.25

River: ($5,687.50) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4,265.62, Hero raises to $9,013.85 (all-in), BTN calls $4,748.23

Total pot: $23,715.20 (Rake: $3)

Showdown:
BB (Hero) shows 5 5 (a full house, Fives full of Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 55%, Flop: 97%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

BU shows A Q (two pair, Queens and Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 45%, Flop: 3%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

BB (Hero) wins $23,712.20



Damn

BU (Hero): $49,007.92 (327 bb)
SB: $5,506.12 (37 bb)
BB: $6,675.52 (45 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($225) Hero is BTN with 5 4
Hero raises to $300, SB 3-bets to $1,050, 1 fold, Hero calls $750

Flop: ($2,250) 8 6 2 (2 players)
SB bets $4,456.12 (all-in), Hero calls $4,456.12

Turn: ($11,162.24) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($11,162.24) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $11,162.24 (Rake: $1.75)

Showdown:
SB shows 3 3 (two pair, Threes and Twos)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 50%, Flop: 35%, Turn: 61%, River: 100%)

BU (Hero) shows 5 4 (a pair of Twos)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 50%, Flop: 65%, Turn: 39%, River: 0%)

SB wins $11,160.49



Huge 3-month update coming in the first few days of October, including graphs.
See you guys on stream tomorrow, I'll be reviewing a student's MSNL footage at 6PM euro time.
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
09-29-2020 , 12:02 PM
Streaming now on the Bluffthespot Twitch channel!
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
09-30-2020 , 05:44 PM
500 1k 2k game on!
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
10-02-2020 , 01:41 AM
UPDATE

BB GRAPH


Last few months, graph now fully updated and accurate

It's been quite a while since I updated my graph, and it's about time.
In the last few weeks, I have put in 20k+ hands after having gotten my GG account back and finally kicked the mediocre run I was on. I managed to import lots of 200/400 and 75/150 action on ACR as well and some other sites, to make my graph as accurate as possible.

2018 was an amazing year, being able to win 7 figures.
2019 was quite disappointing with 'only' 80k winnings playing some of the highest stakes, being down for most of the year .

The first few months of 2020 started off poorly. Running below EV, lots of coolers, low win rate on paper. Very frustrating and demoralizing.
But I didn't give up, put in good volume and worked on my game and I'm back to running good.
Obviously, I won quite a bit in huge games, but I also played a ton of 5k - 20k games and was quite happy with my performance. See BB graph.

The games have also been very good despite unfortunate circumstances in the world.
They've gotten a lot worse in the last few days, like a delayed WSOP summer dip.
That's okay. I'll be flying home tomorrow to spend time with my friends, family and dogs and take it easy for a few days.
Then, right back to the grind. I ran quite a few very cool sims that I'll be studying soon, and hopefully I'll have some new moves at the tables next week.

I'm going to record some more coaching videos for the Bluffthespot Lab+ on my days off. I just finished recording a 200/400NL and 500 1k 2kNL video, but I have many more ideas in mind. I'm not sure in what order they'll be released but there's a lot of great content in the lab already, so go check it out if you want to improve your game.

Enough talking, let's see some hands.



Good turn calling hands but felt it was right

Poker Hand #HD397315731: Hold'em No Limit ($500/$1,000/$2,000)
Table 'VH Straddle2' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: e5e4f855 ($199,800 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero ($290,513 in chips)
Seat 3: 50ad3e35 ($33,525.02 in chips)
Seat 4: e2893c4c ($218,296.44 in chips)
Seat 5: 27aa0ea3 ($335,909 in chips)
Seat 6: dbb00c42 ($121,598.28 in chips)
27aa0ea3: posts the ante $200
e5e4f855: posts the ante $200
dbb00c42: posts the ante $200
e2893c4c: posts the ante $200
50ad3e35: posts the ante $200
Hero: posts the ante $200
50ad3e35: posts small blind $500
e2893c4c: posts big blind $1,000
27aa0ea3: posts third blind $2,000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to e5e4f855
Dealt to Hero [Ad Ac]
Dealt to 50ad3e35
Dealt to e2893c4c
Dealt to 27aa0ea3
Dealt to dbb00c42
dbb00c42: folds
e5e4f855: folds
Hero: raises $2,000 to $4,000
50ad3e35: folds
e2893c4c: raises $16,200 to $20,200
27aa0ea3: folds
Hero: raises $27,200 to $47,400
e2893c4c: calls $27,200
*** FLOP *** [8c 6h 7d]

e2893c4c: checks
Hero: checks
*** TURN *** [8c 7d 6h] [3d]
e2893c4c: bets $49,250
Hero: raises $193,663 to $242,913 and is all-in

e2893c4c: folds
Uncalled bet ($193,663) returned to Hero
*** SHOWDOWN ***
Hero collected $197,000 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $197,000
Board [8c 7d 6h 3d]
Seat 1: e5e4f855 folded before Flop
Seat 2: Hero (button) won ($197,000)
Seat 3: 50ad3e35 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: e2893c4c (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: 27aa0ea3 folded before Flop
Seat 6: dbb00c42 folded before Flop



Did I trap my opponent or myself?

Poker Hand #HD397264447: Hold'em No Limit ($500/$1,000/$2,000)
Table 'VH Straddle2' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: e5e4f855 ($255,553.5 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero ($211,612 in chips)
Seat 3: 50ad3e35 ($150,136.74 in chips)
Seat 4: e2893c4c ($95,800 in chips)
Seat 5: 27aa0ea3 ($336,109 in chips)
Seat 6: dbb00c42 ($100,683 in chips)
27aa0ea3: posts the ante $200
e5e4f855: posts the ante $200
dbb00c42: posts the ante $200
e2893c4c: posts the ante $200
50ad3e35: posts the ante $200
Hero: posts the ante $200
Hero: posts small blind $500
50ad3e35: posts big blind $1,000
e2893c4c: posts third blind $2,000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to e5e4f855
Dealt to Hero [Ks Kc]
Dealt to 50ad3e35
Dealt to e2893c4c
Dealt to 27aa0ea3
Dealt to dbb00c42
27aa0ea3: folds
dbb00c42: folds
e5e4f855: raises $2,000 to $4,000
Hero: raises $14,000 to $18,000

50ad3e35: folds
e2893c4c: folds
e5e4f855: calls $14,000
*** FLOP *** [Ts 4c Kd]
Hero: bets $10,000
e5e4f855: calls $10,000
*** TURN *** [4c Ts Kd] [9h]

Hero: checks
e5e4f855: checks
*** RIVER *** [4c Ts Kd 9h] [Qd]
Hero: checks
e5e4f855: bets $30,100
Hero: calls $30,100
e5e4f855: shows [7s 4s] (Pair of Fours)

Hero: shows [Ks Kc] (Three Kings)
*** SHOWDOWN ***
Hero collected $120,400 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $120,400
Board [4c Ts Kd 9h Qd]
Seat 1: e5e4f855 (button) showed [7s 4s] and lost with Pair of Fours
Seat 2: Hero (small blind) showed [Ks Kc] and won ($120,400) with Three Kings
Seat 3: 50ad3e35 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: e2893c4c folded before Flop
Seat 5: 27aa0ea3 folded before Flop
Seat 6: dbb00c42 folded before Flop



Biggest losing pot of my career...off a misclick

Poker Hand #HD397316311: Hold'em No Limit ($500/$1,000/$2,000)
Table 'VH Straddle2' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: e5e4f855 ($234,123 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero ($352,300 in chips)
Seat 3: 50ad3e35 ($161,440 in chips)
Seat 4: e2893c4c ($117,946.44 in chips)
Seat 5: 27aa0ea3 ($333,829 in chips)
Seat 6: dbb00c42 ($116,898.28 in chips)
27aa0ea3: posts the ante $200
e5e4f855: posts the ante $200
dbb00c42: posts the ante $200
e2893c4c: posts the ante $200
50ad3e35: posts the ante $200
Hero: posts the ante $200
50ad3e35: posts small blind $500
e2893c4c: posts big blind $1,000
27aa0ea3: posts third blind $2,000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to e5e4f855
Dealt to Hero [Ts 9h]
Dealt to 50ad3e35
Dealt to e2893c4c
Dealt to 27aa0ea3
Dealt to dbb00c42
dbb00c42: raises $2,500 to $4,500
e5e4f855: folds
Hero: raises $9,500 to $14,000
50ad3e35: folds
e2893c4c: folds
27aa0ea3: folds
dbb00c42: calls $9,500
*** FLOP *** [Jc 6s 7h]

dbb00c42: checks
Hero: bets $10,791
dbb00c42: calls $10,791
*** TURN *** [Jc 7h 6s] [3h]

dbb00c42: checks
Hero: bets $23,641
dbb00c42: calls $23,641
*** RIVER *** [Jc 7h 6s 3h] [7s]

dbb00c42: checks
Hero: bets $303,668 and is all-in
dbb00c42: calls $68,266.28 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($235,401.72) returned to Hero
Hero: shows [9h Ts] (Pair of Sevens)
dbb00c42: shows [5h 4h] (Sevens-High Straight)

*** SHOWDOWN ***
dbb00c42 collected $238,096.56 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $238,096.56
Board [Jc 7h 6s 3h 7s]
Seat 1: e5e4f855 folded before Flop
Seat 2: Hero (button) showed [Ts 9h] and lost with Pair of Sevens
Seat 3: 50ad3e35 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: e2893c4c (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: 27aa0ea3 folded before Flop
Seat 6: dbb00c42 showed [5h 4h] and won ($238,096.56) with Sevens-High Straight



When you run good at rathole, you run very good

SB: $206,493.81 (1377 bb)
BB (Hero): $55,406.15 (369 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($225) Hero is BB with A 8
SB raises to $375, Hero 3-bets to $1,425, SB calls $1,050

Flop: ($2,850) 2 A 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $712.50, SB calls $712.50

Turn: ($4,275) K (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $1,368.75, Hero calls $1,368.75

River: ($7,012.50) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $3,881.25, Hero raises to $18,881.25, SB calls $15,000

Total pot: $44,775 (Rake: $1.25)

Showdown:
BB (Hero) shows A 8 (a flush, Ace high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 63%, Flop: 8%, Turn: 20%, River: 100%)

SB shows 3 4 (a straight, Ace to Five)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 37%, Flop: 92%, Turn: 80%, River: 0%)

BB (Hero) wins $44,773.75



Happy I checked

SB: $10,000.00 (100 bb)
BB (Hero): $5,000.00 (50 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($150) Hero is BB with Q 8
SB calls $50, Hero raises to $400, SB calls $300

Flop: ($800) 6 Q 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $400, SB calls $400

Turn: ($1,600) K (2 players)
Hero bets $1,000, SB calls $1,000

River: ($3,600) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $8,200 (all-in), Hero calls $3,200 (all-in)

Total pot: $10,000 (Rake: $0)

Showdown:
SB shows T 9 (high card, King)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 41%, Flop: 30%, Turn: 18%, River: 0%)

BB (Hero) shows Q 8 (two pair, Queens and Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 59%, Flop: 70%, Turn: 82%, River: 100%)

BB (Hero) wins $10,000



Not much to say

UTG: $3,533.20 (71 bb)
MP: $5,865.00 (117 bb)
CO: $3,549.80 (71 bb)
BU: $4,065.75 (81 bb)
SB: $6,029.25 (121 bb)
BB (Hero): $4,461.25 (89 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($75) Hero is BB with K J
4 players fold, SB raises to $150, Hero 3-bets to $425, SB calls $275

Flop: ($850) 4 T T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $275, SB raises to $550, Hero calls $275

Turn: ($1,950) 9 (2 players)
SB bets $1,187, Hero calls $1,187

River: ($4,324) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $3,867.25 (all-in), Hero calls $2,299.25 (all-in)

Total pot: $8,922.50 (Rake: $0)

Showdown:
SB shows K T (three of a kind, Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 30%, Flop: 70%, Turn: 20%, River: 0%)

BB (Hero) shows K J (a flush, King high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 70%, Flop: 30%, Turn: 80%, River: 100%)

BB (Hero) wins $8,922.50



Couldn't fold vs aggro fish

UTG: $4,266.69 (85 bb)
MP: $5,115.94 (102 bb)
CO: $5,000.00 (100 bb)
BU (Hero): $8,188.75 (164 bb)
SB: $3,730.95 (75 bb)
BB: $5,000.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($75) Hero is BTN with K T
3 players fold, Hero raises to $125, SB 3-bets to $350, 1 fold, Hero calls $225

Flop: ($750) 3 A J (2 players)
SB bets $375, Hero calls $375

Turn: ($1,500) Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $495, SB raises to $1,316.70, Hero raises to $7,463.75 (all-in), SB calls $1,689.25 (all-in)

River: ($7,511.90) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $7,511.90 (Rake: $0)

Showdown:
BU (Hero) shows K T (a straight, Ten to Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 61%, Flop: 54%, Turn: 16%, River: 0%)

SB shows 9 8 (a flush, Ace high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 39%, Flop: 46%, Turn: 84%, River: 100%)

SB wins $7,511.90



See you guys on stream tomorrow.

Last edited by Mixgrill; 10-02-2020 at 02:10 AM.
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
10-02-2020 , 01:48 AM
lol at the spike around 55K hands. Glad to see these results and HH’s. Thx for the update Mixgrill.
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
10-02-2020 , 01:57 AM
Yeah wtf, it's like 550k in maybe 1k hands? Wild stuff, wp
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
10-02-2020 , 02:00 AM
I won a ton on ACR, party, GG and a few other sites during those hands. I just edited it to only show the BB graph because it shows all results and not just those, otherwise it looks too much like a money brag instead of the hard work I've been putting in at all stakes.

Last edited by Mixgrill; 10-02-2020 at 02:11 AM.
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
10-02-2020 , 02:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by XtraScratch8
lol at the spike around 55K hands. Glad to see these results and HH’s. Thx for the update Mixgrill.
Quote:
Originally Posted by isunkurbttlship
Yeah wtf, it's like 550k in maybe 1k hands? Wild stuff, wp
Run good when it matters. I forgot to do it for a while but I've been hanging out with a lot of luckboxes and it rubbed off.
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
10-02-2020 , 02:11 AM
Oh, so that’s the key. Noted. Clutch free tip.
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
10-02-2020 , 06:15 AM
Congrats on the results

How tilted were you after the Chidwick hand with T9o? I know you don't get to where you are with tilt issues but surely this was another level, especially when it was one of your first few 200knl sessions.
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
10-02-2020 , 11:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mousecop
Congrats on the results

How tilted were you after the Chidwick hand with T9o? I know you don't get to where you are with tilt issues but surely this was another level, especially when it was one of your first few 200knl sessions.
A bit tilted but moreso ashamed. I've always had a high misclick rate, it just happened at the wrong time.


Streaming Bit2Easy vs Stefan match in 5 minutes, come join!
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
10-02-2020 , 02:40 PM
which street was the misclick? If it was just pf, I doubt you are losing that much EV just purely from that.
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote
10-02-2020 , 05:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Ganzfried
which street was the misclick? If it was just pf, I doubt you are losing that much EV just purely from that.
Pre-flop was a misclick. I had QQ at 75/150 on ACR, brainfarted and thought it was on GG.
Flop turn and river all could have been checked. I chose to take the aggressively line this time and paid for it.
2016 PCG - MSNL and HSNL Quote

      
m