I don't understand how you of all people is giving me ****, when you wrote this in answer to my own post in another thread:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...l#post51413481

Ic why ur commutes are so long & tiring

Jaykay

But how are any of those errands/chores are unique to poker players?

Oh and skip ikea, that's mostly overpriced **** that look like like a good deal just cuz you have to dig stuff out of a warehouse and build everything yourself

To keep it on topic, nowadays I rarely go anywhere for errands (other than the vet/doc, which you can't avoid) - so much can be done over the phone/internet that you really shouldn't have to waste time to physically go somewhere yourself

Nice research! I'm not making a comment about the hours.

I was lolling playfully with your first post because really, three weeks of semi busy time shouldn't be enough to make a big deal about but then thought the diatribe was pretty silly and was in fact an example of entitlement. I mean, there are a load of people with way busier and harder lives than that - like basically every working mother/parent for starters and so while you have painted a busy picture, I guarantee you that if you ever get into a situation where you're bringing up kids and running a house while you're working full time, you will react the same if you read your posts

My big thing here though is Cuse ruining his effort and lapsing back into old, bad and unprofessional habits.

I'd consider it. What are the terms?

These are key differences. I don't know anyone who's able to sleep immediately after playing poker, so often you're adding an hour+ when you get home to unwind. If you take 1.5 hours of breaks every 10 hours, add 15% to the total... So a 50 hour week of poker is equal to a 57.5 hour week of work. Plus, if you're being logged out every time you go to the bathroom or stretch your legs, that probably adds a few more hours that count as work time in a 9-5. Plus the seating is far less comfortable which puts stress on your body.

This is big too when you're trying to play a ton of hours... Although I'd say that has more to do with all the non-work stuff that came up with flat tires and Ikea.

You certainly have my permission!

Thanks with regard to the studying. Yes it is, because the things that are taxing about the 15 hours are different from the 5... It's not mentally taxing in terms of making 400 decisions an hour like online poker, but it's physically/mentally taxing to sit in an uncomfortable seat elbow to elbow with potentially annoying people who smell bad... Plus the sleep disruption that can come with the longer hours in a day.

My aim was certainly 150-200 hours, but given my situation the 300 hours in January were more productive for me than 150 + 150 due to the certainty of my financial situation changing by 1/31.

That's a little harsh, but not entirely unfounded. If I'm at like 750 after April, or 900 after May, everything is working out just fine with the volume. Also, I think you're misunderstanding the title of the thread.

LOOOOOL...most people ITT do all the same errands, maybe a few more, maybe a few less so gtfo with that. Some of us work at an office a lot more than 50 hours a week, meet payroll, keep clients/customers happy, deal with vendors, etc.

I mean I'm sorry you haven't had any time for recreation...I guess big boy pants are needed...IDK

It also sounds like your planning of time is for **** if you are doing a 23 hr session and 26 hr session to hit your hours. But sure you can be tired...I'll allow.

There are certainly a lot of snowflakes ITT.

I mean 300 hours in a month is a lot and not sustainable obv. But getting 4-1 and for only 31 days it just isn't that hard really. Point is there are plenty of people in the "real world" that work more than ~75 hours a week (some for short stretches of time others every week) and don't make a huge deal out of it. It is what it is. And every job has other headache/BS factors that add time, stress and drain energy on a daily basis. If you think only poker has those things then I think you are being a little self serving.

TBF I don't think you drama bombed the 300 hour mark as much as I thought you might so w/e.

If you're as mentally taxed by 50 hours at the table per week because of the things you have to do outside of the casino (and you don't have a FT job/kids), you're a time management whale.

My gf has a FT job and did the MDL 50 hours week/$500 thing twice this month and she didn't take any vacation or sick days.

One of the issues with errands as a poker pro is that, if you play the night shift or the overnight, you may have to disrupt your sleep to run errands or have them jammed into a 2-3 hour window right after you wake up. This is obviously an issue anyone working nights would have.

Not sure what you mean about drama bombing, but I think the big thing is people who work 75 hours a week in regular jobs aren't actually working 75 hours. They're at work for 75 hours. If they take one hour for lunch, 15 minutes in the morning and afternoon, and two trips per day to the bathroom/coffee maker, along with swinging by a co-workers desk to talk about half work and half the game last night/the news/whatever, that's about 2 hours per day they aren't working. Plus time they spend surfing the net or whatever.

I'd say if they work six days, easily 12-15 hours a week are not active "work" hours. So 75 hours of a regular job is closer to 60 hours of poker.

Plus you're not accounting for the stress and what it does to the body. The comparisons that make the most sense, in my opinion, would be day trading or running a business.

Also, it's easy enough to say 300 hours at 4-1 is not that hard... But the point along the curve where the degree of difficulty starts to drastically ramp up is between 290 and 330 for most people. You can easily come back with, well X is possible if Y money is on the line... But I'm just talking realistic amounts here. For life changing money, sitting and folding and watching TV all day every day changes the formula a lot.

But by that logic can't you argue that a poker player really isn't working for ALL of his clocked bravo hours, either?

Sure you can argue that you are still paying attention to hands you aren't in.. but what about the small but frequent "down time" when the dealer are shuffling/dealing, selling chips, doing fills, calling floor to sort out drama, etcetc, or when you go on your phone/have a quick meal at the table/being sociable to other players? That all add up too and no one can really claim they are working 100% of the time in live poker (much respect to online players that have to continuously make key decisions every few seconds for hours on end)

lol I mean there is not a chance that a poker player is "actively working" all 75 hours either; they just aren't. I know we all try to pay attention to hands that we are not in but there isn't certainly varying degrees of zoning out that goes on.

But if you want to do the mental gymnastics to prove to yourself this job is harder than almost all others that's fine.

Anyway /derail and good luck

Guilty

listening to music
watching sport on the TVs
doing mindless **** on their phones
etc

What's worse, being a time management whale or a prop betting whale ?

Simple math question of how much your time is worth =]

My favorite whale of all time is Guy L., followed closely by Willzyx and Shamu.

Pretty sure he was needling you there RG.

Ofc.

Just because AIM is a prick doesn't mean it was a needle.

Wtf

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50 hours while working a FT job is insane. No way my day job and commute would allow that

Yeah I don't see how that's possible really. I guess like 2x 12 hour days +4x 4 hour days.

I could do it once but not worth $500

Uh ... I'm pretty sure 2 12 hour days and 4 4 hour days adds up to 40 hours there chief, not 50 hours.

I must be a fish when it comes to breaks. No way I take 20 hours of breaks in a month, let alone in a week.

Make the most of your time in the casino and play poker.

He may fold AA UTG, but this man's post makes a lot of sense!


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