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01-09-2017 , 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Handsumm
Thanks for the very informative post 'Cuse. Yeah I have taken a few shots at $2/5 with good results, but I have been apprehensive about staying in the game due to being a kind of bankroll nit myself. Besides, my w/r over last year on $1/2 was $31.63, so didn't think it was necessarily worth the effort to move up for good. I think I'll follow your advice this year and maybe I can crush my local $2/5 game as well.

Very nice effort so far in your prop bet. I know you'll smash it now, and you'll be back playing higher stakes in no time. ��
Bankroll nits stay in the game! That's a sick 1/2 winrate, how many hours?

Thanks! I played some 2/5 today but the game turned nitty so I decided it wasn't worth it anymore, especially since I was getting tired.
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01-09-2017 , 05:12 AM
Do 2/5 hours count towards the bet/challenge?


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01-09-2017 , 05:51 AM
Just got angleshot hard at the end of the night. I figured it out and made a disciplined fold to save $200 I might have otherwise paid off getting 3 to 1, but it still leaves a bad taste in your mouth... even if it did backfire. He also got off without a warning.

At any rate, I played 10 hours and 54 minutes today and I'm up to 100 hours and 58 minutes.

It was my first losing day of the challenge, but not by a lot. I took a couple beats, but I think I mostly played well. As far as that goes, I'm mostly annoyed by a $16 river call getting 4 to 1, so that's not too big of a deal.
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01-09-2017 , 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by skillz_2106
Do 2/5 hours count towards the bet/challenge?


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Yes, any live poker in a casino.
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01-09-2017 , 12:42 PM
Hey Ryan, do you think kansas city is +EV to win the superbowl at 9 to 1 right now? Thanks in advance
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01-09-2017 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
Just got angleshot hard at the end of the night. I figured it out and made a disciplined fold to save $200 I might have otherwise paid off getting 3 to 1, but it still leaves a bad taste in your mouth... even if it did backfire. He also got off without a warning.
What did he do??
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01-09-2017 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by heyunloving
Hey Ryan, do you think kansas city is +EV to win the superbowl at 9 to 1 right now? Thanks in advance
No, but I'll be rooting for them. I haven't seen Vegas lines but I'm guessing the Chiefs are ~40 to 45% to beat the Steelers, and would be around 3 to 1 dogs to beat the Patriots, so 25% of 45% is 11.25%. In other words, I think they're about 9 to 1 just to make it to the Super Bowl.
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01-09-2017 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuma
What did he do??
Yeah, right.

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Btw can I get odds on you suffering a heart attack during the volume prop challenge? You obese ****.

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Even 1/10th of a **** given is 1/10th too much fat boy. Your lack of self esteem, sensitive skin, and lack of self objectivity is the main reason for your latest epic downswing.

But your head is too far up your own ass to realize it.
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01-09-2017 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
No, but I'll be rooting for them. I haven't seen Vegas lines but I'm guessing the Chiefs are ~40 to 45% to beat the Steelers, and would be around 3 to 1 dogs to beat the Patriots, so 25% of 45% is 11.25%. In other words, I think they're about 9 to 1 just to make it to the Super Bowl.


Oddly enough of chiefs are favorite in Pitt game by 2.5 points. I think smart money on Pitt all day.

And can I ask what the angle shooter did lol I'm curious.
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01-09-2017 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
Bankroll nits stay in the game! That's a sick 1/2 winrate, how many hours?

Thanks! I played some 2/5 today but the game turned nitty so I decided it wasn't worth it anymore, especially since I was getting tired.
Not a huge sample size but...
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01-09-2017 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by iTzLifestyle
Oddly enough of chiefs are favorite in Pitt game by 2.5 points. I think smart money on Pitt all day.

And can I ask what the angle shooter did lol I'm curious.
lol smart money on pitt or every joe schmo sports better in america?
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01-09-2017 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Handsumm
Not a huge sample size but...
thats an understatement!
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01-09-2017 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by iTzLifestyle
Oddly enough of chiefs are favorite in Pitt game by 2.5 points. I think smart money on Pitt all day.

And can I ask what the angle shooter did lol I'm curious.
The fact that the cheifs are 'oddly enough' favored when public perception lays in favor of the steelers would actually indicate the the sharps like kc.
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01-09-2017 , 05:40 PM
Back to battle... Thoughts on the Chiefs and angle shooters momentarily.
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01-09-2017 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by heyunloving
The fact that the cheifs are 'oddly enough' favored when public perception lays in favor of the steelers would actually indicate the the sharps like kc.
ok ok there we go, good post. i agree
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01-09-2017 , 05:49 PM
Not tryin to come off as a know it all but do this.. Keep written record of everytime you see a line/spread that doesnt seem to make much sense and over time ull see the side that seemed like a 'no brainer' will consistently not cover the line. You can actually turn a nice profit by just finding those spots and fading them. Oddsmakers q+always know more than the betters and when they know the most likely outcome is contrary to what public perception is, theyll put a number out there that will entice all the square bettors and when you factor in the VIG.. Thats why those guys do so well.

Anyways ryan thanks for being the voice of reason and saving me yet another -EV wagor.. Bro pay no attention to all the hatefull posts ive read on your thread and remember its not about the adversity that measures the type of caliber of player you are but rather how you respond to that adversity. Good luck brother i see nothing but success and positive results in your future!

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01-09-2017 , 05:58 PM
2/5 is soft and my 2/5 roll is back to 2,600 so I sit and obviously get stacked 10 minutes in.

Firing one more $600 bullet, then returning to the 1/3 grind.

Here's hoping I'm not in sunrun 1/3, doomswitch 2/5 mode.
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01-09-2017 , 06:18 PM
Just play your game homie and let the rest take care of itself. Glglgl

This thread needs more love

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01-09-2017 , 06:34 PM
Don't want to take the time to reply with quotes at the table, but I tend to agree with people's thoughts on suspicious lines... That said, the Steelers have been tearing it up since Big Ben got healthy. What is it, 7 in a row?

Reid is VERY good off a bye, though. But if he falls behind he'll throw too much.
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01-09-2017 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by iTzLifestyle
And can I ask what the angle shooter did lol I'm curious.
You can, yes.

A few limps at 1/3, and the villain makes it $13. I make it $40 in the cutoff, he calls.

Flop ($83): J22r

Check, I bet $50, he calls

Turn ($183): 3x

He checks, I bet $115, and he goes into the tank for around three minutes, agonizing over it. "Ace King? *sigh* I don't know here..."

He's in the 1 seat, his friend is behind him and the 10 seat walks over, he flashes his hand to them and tanks a bit more, he plays with his cards, then his chips. Then one more look at his cards and a sigh and...

"Okay, take it, take it... I'm down."

He doesn't push his cards away though. The dealer says, "Fold?"

He sits silently and motionless, the dealer looks at him and me, then after somewhere in the 15 to 30 second range, he calls.

The dealer quickly pulls the bets and deals the river.

River ($413): Tx

Villain snap jams $203, almost before the card hits the felt.

The dealer pulling the bets, dealing the river and the bet all took 3-4 seconds, tops.

I call the floor to ask if "Take it, I'm down," is binding as a fold.
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01-09-2017 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
Yeah, right.

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You begged people to ****-talk and then put those who obeyed in the dark. Makes sense
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01-09-2017 , 08:16 PM
Good on not reacting.

I've seen that one enough, most of the time otr tho. Something like "Ok you win" *still holds cards*

Something that seems so LOL obvious still gets alot of newer and sometimes even veteran players.

I've seen it work several times.

Heard from a reliable source that Maurice Hawkins pulled something similar in a pretty big pot 5/10 in sfla a few years back.
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01-09-2017 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Avaritia
Good on not reacting.

I've seen that one enough, most of the time otr tho. Something like "Ok you win" *still holds cards*

Something that seems so LOL obvious still gets alot of newer and sometimes even veteran players.

I've seen it work several times.

Heard from a reliable source that Maurice Hawkins pulled something similar in a pretty big pot 5/10 in sfla a few years back.
Yeah, the floor ruled no action would change, and didn't even give him a warning. I figured there was like a 5-10% chance of ruling it a fold, maybe another 5-10% chance of allowing the call but no further aggressive action (which I think is a good way for a floor to use discretion to punish angle shooters), and most of the time he'd be able to get away with it.

Pretty disappointed he didn't even give the guy a warning though. He said he wants to give him enough rope to pull a big enough angle he can just ban him for it...

I've heard similar stories about Hawkins.
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01-09-2017 , 08:29 PM
Hawkins confirmed epic scum bag


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01-09-2017 , 08:36 PM
The end of that hand is that I tank fold, and invoke IWTSTH since he showed another player (first time in my life I've invoked that but you shoot that angle I am gonna extend you zero courtesy), and he had QQ to confirm that it was an angle.

I don't want to confirm my exact hand but suffice it to say I had showdown value but couldn't beat anything he'd do that with for value.
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