No Sleep, Just Grind, Cumback

I basically power napped for about 3-4 hours. And have been playing non-stop since yesterday. Play 2-3 hours, take a break, eat some food, hit the tables, rinse repeat. I was gonna vomit, because I was almost down another 15-20K TODAY. That would've pushed my downswing to like $65,000 in like 5 days. WTFfffffffff.

Anyways after all the hours, managed to peak up to around $4500, but I wanted more. Despite being relatively tired. Table was decent. My position was good. Then I ended in the negative, afcking again ofc. Then my gf comes in, and asks to go out to eat. I'm like, Im too stuck to enjoy.

Just now, managed to upswing back, and locking it in for the next 10-12 hours, maybe the whole day. Just to lock it ya know.



I ended everything on this. I flopped him dead to 2%.

Today's Profit: $2026
April's Total Profit w/o RB -$18,698

My RB might be worth a couple thousand today (hopefully?). So there's that.

Wild month. I feel your pain albeit for 10x less stakes. Hope you rostucko this month and soar to the moon in May.

im assuming **** has not gone well from the lack of posts for the past 3 weeks, hope **** turns around. 6 card variance can be a *****, glgl.

Thanks for checking in Soyza. I was thinking about doing an update a few days ago, but just didn't really have the stomach for it. In the past 3 weeks, I think I've swung down another $50-60K. It hurt me to the point where I had to recount my yearly profits, and my net worth just to keep my sanity. (The reconfirming/comforting notion that I'm still doing better than last year, etc).

Anyways I know this is what I signed up for in terms of variance, despite my decent win rate. I'm certain I'm making more mistakes than usual though lately. Found myself on a couple occasions, saying I'm not happy with how I played at the end of it.

It's tough. I know of another pro in my game, who made A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS IN A MONTH. Though there's another pro, who gave up, because he lost nearly the same amount in a similar hand sample size. So idk what to say.

I'm not trying to get rich, I'd just like to make my honest wage and get through life lol.

Lol, who woulda thought

Pretty sure I certainly did, literally every post is me bat **** afraid of the next downswing, and thus calling myself a rakeback pro.

I don't want my win rate out there, but let's say my easy generic, 10bb/100, it's still like a 5% chance I end up down $100,000 or something.

You're going to have to work on your dig. Either that, or enter my game.

BRUTAL UPDATE! FORCE QUIT!

I don't want to bore you with the HH details, but it's the typical, 80% vs 20% cliche sob story. Except today, after I lost 2 x $10,000+ pots, while at 70% and 81% the other, one of the main investor/backer messages me he wants out. This causes a chain reaction, because no1 wants to hold too much of my action since I'm like down a **** ton this month+. Prob pretty close to that $100K negative now for the past 30 days, give or take (don't want to really think/confirm it).

Anyways so I guess I'm going to have 2 options now.

1. Play 2/5, 5/10 NL live, while 1 tabling 6c PLO. Jesus, back to the grind life. Easier money, lesser hourly, no variance.

2. Stick to online grinding, mostly 2/4 and 5/10 PLO. Occasional 10/20 in good line ups. Higher hourly, still gonna swing.

Before an idiot like TroothSayer comes back and says anything dumb (which btw, you certainly must not be winning much or simply playing irrelevant stakes since you need to justify/explain your "edge" to your dad) - my winrate even after this $100K downswing. is OVER 10bb/100.

When I'm down in the dumps, I like to wonder, what is TwitchAshuraPoker or his pen-pal RektPanda are doing in life. I wonder if he's still beating up the 1/2 NL streets on global. Or is RektPanda still grinding at 25/50/100 PLO in Tampa as a 19 year old. I can only ponder. Did they give up on poker? Did they fight through? Are they bustoed? Are they in school?

Life's hard.

hey, feel free to message me if you need anyone to talk to man

gl! hope it all works out

you'll bounce back i'm sure of it

Yeah, this. OP epically fails every challenge he starts and is a mental game fish, as evidenced by his wild emotional swings and antisocial behavior.

I stopped poking fun at him bc after seeing his YouTube content I just feel sorry for him

It’s always like this, some degen loser making a huge goal just to admit months later that he can’t even afford the stakes he’s playing

The funniest was when he was repeatedly trying to offer staking, like anyone on the planet would want to go into business with him after 5 seconds of watching his YT or reading this thread. He’s painful just to witness, let alone interact with

GL OP, hopefully you learned a lesson now go get some social coaching or life coaching or.....anything

Hey appreciate it man, but despite how my wording may seem (though the pain is very real), I know it's just standard-life-stuff.

Some fellow poker pros asked me last night, how's my mindset after dropping down in stakes. Some were surprised, thought I was just taking a break for a day. The general inquiry was if I was tilted moving down.

I'm not tilted at the notion of moving down, after all I was playing 1/2 PLO side by side with 25/50 on occasion when I needed more tables. An edge is an edge, free boba drinks I'd like to think.

Thanks again! Just gotta grind.

At this point soundslike you have more confidence in me than myself! My discord nickname recently changed to, I Want To Win At Poker.

First I've acknowledged I'm a mental game fish throughout my threads. It's been known. Secondly, yes I fail MOST challenges, even paying up for prop-bets like my weight gain (I only gained 14 lbs in like 4 months). I also acknowledge that.

However go watch the WSOP 2019 feature table, where I literally lost a hand worth like $50,000+ in chip EV and my dreams of the millions nearly gone. I got slow rolled to the maximum by that OMC. You see my emotion? WHAT IS MY EMOTION? You see me being an "emotional fish" when the money is on the line?

As for failing challenges, sure I could make an easy challenge like, winning $50K/year thread. But that isn't a challenge is it. Winning $300K/year in 800 hours is a real challenge buddy. Which even though I'm failing this, I'm certainly still making more money than you in my PJs.

Are you ******ed or comprehension is hard?

I literally just told you, even though my backers backed off, pun unintended, I'm winning over 10bb/100 at the ending of the deal. Like I'm UP money.

I'm literally so confused rn as the money I've won from these past couple months, is probably more than your poker BR. You know how I know that? Your past thread, you stated, you needed to explain your edge in poker to your daddy.

If your father saw you swimming in money, he wouldn't need you to convince him otherwise. Myself, coming from an asian house hold, gambling/poker is obviously massively looked down upon. You know what my parents say now? Thanks for the monthly venmo money! I mean it's not much-much, but I can ship $12K/year to my parents. And was willing to give up purchasing my first house, to help my parents through covid. Are you willing to give up $100,000 for your parents kid? Do you even have the means? I guess I'm a typical degen player, going busto!

Oh wait, your edge in poker, comes out to $3.50/hr.

As for staking, I literally just give people money and buy their action into the private games. Clearly I have excess cash on hand, to be firing off to randoms. You mad?

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Edit, upon re-rereading what you wrote. You failed school or something? Comprehension is really lacking on your end.

1. I've openly admitted to having investors/backers. The minute one of the main backer quit, I didn't want to own more %/equity, and moved back down. Seems like proper BRM to me. What part of this is a degen?

2. You stated I cannot beat the game. I literally just wrote, 10bb+/100. And that's after my BIG DOWNSWING.

3. What did I learn? My goal, like many of my other goals, are simply unlikely, unachievable, because I'm lazy. However, if you're implying I cannot beat the game. Please refer to point 2 above.

Lastly I'm very immature, so I'll entertain you. Troothsayer, how's life? What you been up to this year?

Ok, so we are in agreement.

How does a clip of one hand prove anything? You are delusional

Ask your parents to complete the 50k/year challenge, apparently they're like 0 for 40 on that. My challenge was actually 50k in 500 hours, Mr. Reading Comprehension. For context, I got a six-figure bonus that year, played a bunch of 10/20+, and admittedly got crushed, so I moved down in stakes and made a thread to gain some semblance of bankroll discipline. I failed the challenge, but at the end of the day, I still made decent money that year (and every year since) and poker is an expensive hobby that I can afford to lose at, a luxury that you have never experienced.

Also, claiming to "certainly" make more money than some rando on the internet is just LMFAO sad and pathetic.

1. I think this clearly went past your head. Throughout my threads, I've stated that I have a fish-like mindset off the felt. You're implying I failed this challenge because of that, is wrong. I failed this challenge because I lacked the motivation to grind more. Not because I tilt. Herp derp.

2. I think if I'm not tilting in a spot where cEV is worth easily $30,000+ MINIMUM (chip leader pot) and dreams of million on day 4 is gone, I'm not going to tilt in most pots I play which are worth significantly less.

3. I am so confused. LOL. I don't know what went through your brain to respond with that. I'll explain like youre 5. You stated I constantly fail all my challenges. If my challenge was to make $50k/year, I'd bet you a million dollars, I'd succeed. Not very much of a challenge no? Hard to grasp re-tard? That's why all my challenges are like 500 hours 1 month or $500k/1 year etc.

It's funny you stated that it's "sad and pathetic" that I said I made more money than you, when you went with "and poker is an expensive hobby that I can afford to lose at, a luxury that you have never experienced."

I've literally lost like $100K+ in a few months, multiple times, and went about my day playing maplestory or dota 2. Pretty sure, I can afford such "luxuries" you're speaking of.

Before you **** your pants buddy, this is a poker forum. Bet me $10,000 you make a higher hourly than me in your low ass 2/5 5/10 Nl games.

Damn you been playing poker for like 20+ years, and cant even move up stakes?

I thought you were a kid with that kinda comprehension, but you just a old dumb ass man.

Smiley

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You're the best, youre literally refreshing to see if I respond. And after I did, you log off. That brain CPU of yours lagging for a response? Comp-ute compu-te.

Idk why you give those guys even a reply it's an absolute waste of time. One of the guys doesn't even play for a living so his opinion is worthless. GL, i hope it turns around ADV, 6 card can be fkn brutal.

Sure, pros can typically go on larger downswings, but recs can go on longer, even indefinite, downswings because they have the "luxury" of being able to lose money in poker year after year whereas pros do not. This a pretty basic concept.

On the other hand, if you're so profitable, up heaps, and can afford the "luxury" of a 100k downswing, why can't you survive a standard downswing for those stakes without getting dropped by your backers and quitting the game you were in? And you refer to yourself as both a rakeback pro and a 10bb/100 crusher - which is it?

Lol at you issuing an unprovable bet as if an unhinged child like you has any credibility. And 10k is such a paltry sum for a big baller, did you forget a 0?

Some fun reading material for future visitors: https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comme...tries_to_kill/

I know it's straight pointless, and one could argue hurting my reputation. But I spent my first like 20 years, like really spent, (over 40,000+ hours) in e-sports. Which has bred the immature/toxic guy you see before you. Part of my competitive side sees it pretty fun to dismantle their argument.

RektByPanda is a prime example. 19 year old, 25/50/100 PLO live crusher at Tampa, refuses to swap proof of even having $10-15K (that's 2 buy-ins for his self-proclaimed game), while we're DM'ing on discord trying to set up a HU. He basically said, "my cash is tied up atm, I need it for something coming up".

Finishing responding this entire post, took me like 20 minutes tbh. I know, I could've spent that doing more productive things. But tbf, I play lots of video games. This just replaces that.


Hey Old Man Dollar, I'll refer you to OMD from now on. Since you seem to be having early signs of mental decline. I'll break it down 4 u.

1. If the luxury you speak of is the novelty idea that you can keep losing because you have a job, well isn't that every other degen gambler in a casino? They have a job, to pay for their many years of poker. Good job. You're like the rest of the 2/5 NL pool, with enough income, to keep giving back to the casino, year after year. If you're trying to imply the idea that I cannot lose at poker, well let's put it this way. If I didn't play another hand of poker for the rest of my life, starting today, I'd be alright. So yeah, I do have that luxury?

2. You've been playing poker for 20 years, and never moved up stakes once. In fact, it seems like you dropped down stakes. Now don't get me wrong, I can respect any solid crusher, playing a lower stake, for easy income, auto-pilot no sweat. But that's not the case with you. In your own words, you're losing. And that's fine. You spent 20 YEARS, playing the same STAKE, if not lower, and still cannot beat it? You don't improve or something? That just shows the lack of ability at this point. Maybe it's your intellect. Maybe you're like a monkey, repeating the same thing, each time you hit the felt. Regardless if it's poker, a sport, knowledge, there should be progression.

3. I guess through no fault of your own, since you're not a poker pro, nor does it sound like you grind online. Most people that I'm aware of, include RAKEBACK in their WINRATES. Especially in HIGH RAKE ENVIRONMENTS like on GGPoker/APP-CLUBS. Rakeback is a huge part of the hourly. Like hello? This whole thread is proving that my RAKEBACK > my actual poker profits. So yes, I'm a rakeback pro, making over 10bb/100, net income, out the door.

4. It almost seems like you lack a logic train. I'm starting to think worst of you. Didn't think that's possible.

- One of my investors quit, and you want me to take up that equity % because I have a positive win rate. Clearly you have no understanding of 6c variance. Ever heard of BRM? Let me put it this way. I could lose $80,000+ in a REALLY REALLY bad day. Think about that for a second. And how many millions I'd need to comfortably sit. RE-TARD.

5. Why did one of my backer back off despite my positive win rate.

- I'm called The Advantage Player for a reason. I structure my deals in the same fashion. Also, the same backer who backs me, backs two other pros I know. One is up $500K, the other is down $250K, both are known crushers. I mentioned these numbers in the past pages. He's probably reinvesting towards the guy who's up like $200K/mo and dropping the other two (myself included). Did I say, all my backers are dropping me?

6. As for why I asked for a $10,000 bet, I swear on my life. Originally I wrote $50,000 or $100,000 (cannot remember), but I felt like that was condescending. And you would never take up that bet. But if you would, okay bet me $50k that your poker income at 2/5 5/10 is higher than mine.

It's pretty easy. My rakeback alone, is more than 95% of a reasonable achievable win rate in live 2/5 5/10, even if I made you a superstar.

Going forward, at least don't make me repeat myself. If you want to entertain this longer.

Here's something funny I noticed OMD. You see, I'm a nocturnal owl. I slept at 6am yesterday. And I saw you literally on, in the thread in the early AM. Yet you don't respond, till now? C'mon what were you so busy with.

So unless you don't sleep, like me. It meant that you don't have a typical job. Remote from home, usually means tech. Tech has usually early morning meetings. Maybe you're unemployed now with covid. Maybe you're retired, and way older than I thought. Should I call you OMCD?

I'm wondering what type of old man, is up through the AM, checking the thread. But doesn't respond. Do you have a SO/partner? Or do you hire them Vegas escorts to get you through the lonely times?

Bruh I am entertained by your antics/hands/games but you letting people get to you to where you have to personally attack back is no bueno troll food.

People being hard on you because your sensitivity and you contradict yourself sometimes. You should look into some self care/reflective/meditative activities and rituals I think could help you a ton both on/off poker. Looking forward to you getting back in games for thread, you make any decision on direction?(live/online)?

6c plo seems just madness like your edge could be massive and you could resize almost no returns on that over a pretty substantial sample. The swings get to be enough in regular plo and o8/big o that I sometimes won’t play even good games of it for long periods of time in favor of the comparatively low variance of nlh.


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You have the reasoning and communications skills of an adolescent, and your reads on me are completely wrong. Lol thinking my posting history reflects my playing history; that I'm an old man because I registered 16 years ago; that you think making more money at poker than someone who plays 20-50 hours per year is some sort of accomplishment; concluding that I am in tech/have covid/am unemployed or retired. I could go on but what's the point when you are mentally handicapped, antisocial, and refuse to acknowledge reality to such an extreme degree.


https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comme..._tries_to_kill


The boys at reddit summed it up better than I can. Some selected comments:


"you seem like a massive douche. Specifically the kind of douche that gets off to gaining an edge on people through small technicalities, both in and outside poker. Have you considered not being a tool?


this is the kind of prick who might not even realize he's a prick. Always has that "What'd I do?" expression on his face


What do you think it means that literally every other person on this poker forum who has responded believes that you behaved inappropriately, yet you maintain that you've done nothing wrong? Were you by chance home schooled?


This has nothing to do with what we are talking about.


What about all the people on TwoPlusTwo who play professionally and think you are an absolute scumbag.


Is there a joke in there that I'm missing


I can't tell if this is a troll post or not


I really hope this is a joke.


What the ****. This has to be some Andy Kaufman ****. I hate when people throw the term around, but this kid seems like he may be on the spectrum, and not realize how he's being percieved


You seem to be young man who has trouble interactinf with others. If you think behaving this way isn't antisocial, then you really need to examine the way you treat others.


You are playing 5/T and don't know why this is bad etiquette? Are you ******ed?


This is definitely an angle and unethical


I would be annoyed too. It's a dick move.


you're scum for doing this stuff


this is very poor etiquette bordering on angling. I saw a couple of your Vlogs earlier and you came off as massive douche then so I never bothered to watch you anymore, this is just confirms it


You didn't leave good impression when I watched your Vlog. You came of douchy and you still are


what you did was unethical and wrong. Almost everyone agrees on this. And you trying to prove yourself right is so cringy. Let it go. Embrace your douchiness and move on with your live.


You're a huge douchebag.


Your behavior is appaling. Literally everyone is telling you it was a huge scumbag move, but you still are arguing. Clearly, you won't learn anything from this until someone punches you in the mouth. Even then, I'm sure you'll rationalize your attitude somehow.


obviously angling, it's terrible etiquette and as the others have said you are scum for trying it


wtf is wrong with you"

I know it's rather silly and immature, a consequence of never having a formal job structure I suppose. But probably more the fact that I refuse to back down (though I have enough awareness in certain situations). The reasoning is that there's no real consequence in feeding the trolls per say. We type, we type, but if any of my words get through, I'd feel like I had a win. Because I'm nearly as transparent as it gets, my losing streaks are out there. You can't attack me, if I already put out my faults. And players like TwitchAshuraPoker, or RektByPanda, for instance, I'm willing to bet, aren't doing nearly as well as their feeds would imply.

I may type like an assh0le on 2p2 or reddit, but I can get really vouched by other pros who know me in person, that I'm pretty straight arrow. Too many years of online video games, made me a toxic keyboard warrior online. I give back the toxicity with pleasure.

Regarding the direction, I was pretty close to going back to live poker, with the intention of online grinding on my phone/tablet while at the table. However I decided to grind online three days ago, and it's been going pretty alright. No complaints from me. Playing all the games, even as low as .25c/.50c today just to get a little more.

I'm grateful that I'm up about $2200 for the past 2 sessions, but to think that was a single hand only a few days ago. #thatslife

Regarding OMD, I tried reading through your post, but you wrote like 1000 words... Responding to each point would take me a better half an hour, if not more. So I really controlled myself, and looked away after the first reddit hyperlink

I did see one other point though, about my conjecture about you.

After seeing you post an entire essay towards me, I feel more confident in my read than ever.

Think about it, I'm a poker pro. Who lacks volume, I have all the time in the world. You could say I have too much time. You though, are a middle aged man, apparently who doesn't sleep, logs in on 2p2 at like 1am, 3am, 5am, to check this thread, but takes hours to formulate whatever the above was.

It dawned on me, maybe you're not even a successful guy in whatever job I imagined you had. You see, before I thought, it was reasonable you just sucked at poker, despite 20 years of play. Now I realize, maybe you're just a irl loser, with nothing better to do. Maybe you're typing this from a public library, wearing a similar Mickey Mouse t-shart that I would wear.

You did entertain me though

-EDit-

Fawk I did see the ending. So I guess I'll respond to that. Angle shooting. I was the one who posted that story up. And while I won't drag other pro names into this whole mess, I sure as hell would bet a lot of money, everyone at the table there that night, knew I wasn't angling. In fact, go find a single live player at my main casino, Lucky Chances, who thinks I would ever intentionally angle or bad-manner someone first. Bet money.

In FACT, anyone from Lucky Chances or Vegas, who has a single bad story about me from LIVE POKER, please post it up

I thought this was rather interesting, so a quick share outside my poker adventures.

So my friend found a relatively "okay" site, and we decided to card count their live blackjack game. As typical me, I was using a very aggressive spread, while wonging in and out (I sit out in negative counts, back in positive). This was the only way to make up for the poor penetration, but wasn't the worst among games. Though I remember the times when I had a game at 88% penetration. Wowza!

Anyways before the second shoe could be finished, a GIANT ASS LASER BEAM BLASTED AT OUR CARDS, the dealer starts looking at our cards. No one else on the table had it, I finished up the hand. And left. I think thats the last BJ hand on that site.

Won an amazing ~$775 for that "AP", though EV must've been close to less than $80 if I had to guess.

Online 6 card PLO mid stakes has been going well. I've also established a new deal for high stakes, but I play far less of that these days due to risk tolerance and simply owning too much equity %. If this month continues as is, for the next few months. Maybe I can set up another challenge.

Fun fact, that other pro won upwards of $600,000-$700,000 now in the time span of what, 3 months?. Running at like 75bb+/100..... In 6 card PLO.

10/10! Would read again!


Lol