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04-29-2015 , 06:02 AM
I was going to be all slick creating this thread and setting it up very nicely but holy ****! It's really difficult when you're actually going to start typing

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Anyways! I've been playing poker for a while now... In the beginning I wasn't that good and I lost my deposits over and over... I've always been sure of my abilities though and since the new year I've been playing a bit more seriously!

I 16-table 2NL 6-max at pokerstars and I play about 5000 hands of No-Limit Holdem per day.

I don't really have a challenge in mind. I've just been reading some threads since I joined the forum yesterday and thought it would be nice to share

I use Pokertracker 4 and I've filtered my database so that I can only see hands from the 22nd of April 2015 and so far I've made $86,45 in 28880 hands.

My bankroll is: $140,67 and even though I don't have a challenge my goal is moving upwards

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If any of you would like to follow my thread I guess I could learn to post hand histories and stuff but I play so many hands that it's going to be difficult picking
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04-29-2015 , 03:46 PM
Alright!

I played 7246 hands today for 5 hours and 48 minutes 16-tabling.

Total profit was $27.58 with an Al Adj. of $39.84!!

Sick day, but not as sick as yesterday where I played two sessions making $52.13!

Since the 22nd of April I've played 36126 hands and I have a total profit of $114.03 and an Al Adj. of $97.11!

We will have to see how this thing progresses but so far it is obviously going very well and I will probably move up in the near future!

I also managed to clear a $10 stellar reward and I received Silverstar as well!
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04-29-2015 , 03:50 PM
Good luck
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04-29-2015 , 04:01 PM
Yeah don't move up in the near future, with that kind of success and roll just go straight to 5nl immediately. I've been in a similar situation to you and the longer you stay at 2nl the more of "a thing" it is to move up.

You have the roll and you're crushing 2nl, no reason to put it off. What happens is you get used to an easy life, no losing sessions, no experience vs solid players etc. Then you move up after spending too long putting it off, you perhaps don't run so well, you encounter players that won't just hand you their money, you feel a bit tilty and before you know it you're back at 2nl because you miss not winning every session. It's an easy trap to get sucked into man.

I'm sure you're easily good enough to beat 5nl comfortably and you're not worried at all about it, but winning every session vs players that barely know the rules won't help you at all.

gl
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04-29-2015 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by IamNorm
Yeah don't move up in the near future, with that kind of success and roll just go straight to 5nl immediately. I've been in a similar situation to you and the longer you stay at 2nl the more of "a thing" it is to move up.

You have the roll and you're crushing 2nl, no reason to put it off. What happens is you get used to an easy life, no losing sessions, no experience vs solid players etc. Then you move up after spending too long putting it off, you perhaps don't run so well, you encounter players that won't just hand you their money, you feel a bit tilty and before you know it you're back at 2nl because you miss not winning every session. It's an easy trap to get sucked into man.

I'm sure you're easily good enough to beat 5nl comfortably and you're not worried at all about it, but winning every session vs players that barely know the rules won't help you at all.

gl
That sounds reasonable! I just don't want this to have been some type of fluke where I've been running really hot. My plan was to take a few days to a week and find out if I'm really this good or if it's just luck.

I've also been told that 5NL contains a lot more better players who grind it out. Obviously I know that there will be better resistent but this person makes them sound unbeatable. Granted, this person hasn't played online for a while and maybe it's not like this anymore.
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04-30-2015 , 04:42 AM
What are the "rules" for moving up in stakes?

I've talked about it with my dad and he seems to think it needs to be a strict 100 BI brm which just seems really old and static. I see all these bankroll challenges where people are aggressive with their bankrolls and I don't think that will be my approach, but how passive do you really need to be?

Is 100BIs a must for not going broke?
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04-30-2015 , 12:54 PM
I played another 4975 hands today for a profit of $5.69!

Not a lot of profit but profit none the less. It was a very red zone session during almost the entire thing. It wasn't until the last 800 hands that it took a turn for the better!

I don't know how to post graphs or hand histories but if you want to see them then please tell me and I'll learn!

Right now my bankroll is $183.94.

Since the 24th (I changed it from the 22nd since I didn't actually start 16-tabling until the 24th) I've made $122.06 for a 15.04/100 and Al Adj of 12.69/100 over 40566 hands.
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05-02-2015 , 12:16 PM
Well!

I didn't post yesterday... How ever I did play.

It was a losing session, not to fun. A lot of suck outs making med go down $7.85 instead of $2.75. The cards were not on my side when it came to draws and alike either so yesterday was just an alround ****ty 4457 hands for me...

Oh well, only a small downswing.

Today I just finished a 7203 hand session getting back to my normal win of $31.85 with an Al Adj of $27.57.

Someone was kind enough to PM explaining how to post graphs so here we go

My graph for today:



My graph since the 24th of April:


So far I've played 52,226 hands for a total profit of $146.06 with an Al Adj of $127.76!

I don't know how many follow the thread but I would be very happy if someone could tell me if the amount of hands I win is good or not.

According to my math I've played 52226*0,2243 = 11714 hands and if I understand my graph correctly I have won 52226*0,1677 = 8758 hands.

This is a (hand)winrate of ~75% (8758/11714 = 0,747652....). I don't know if my math is wrong or not but winning give or take 75% of your played hands seem like WAY to much!

My current bankroll: $207.94
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05-02-2015 , 04:03 PM
GL, what stats do you play if you dont mind?
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05-02-2015 , 06:21 PM
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GL, what stats do you play if you dont mind?
Good question...

I runt at:

VPIP 22.43
PFR 17.05
3Bet Total 5.74
Total AF 2.28
AFq 44.95

Fold to Steal 73.57
3Bet Steal 6.19
WTSD % 27.39
WSD 56.91
WWSF 42.95

I tried to include as much as I could think of and included some of the stats I saw in PokerTracker.

Some of the stats are missleading though because I don't really have a set range of hands that I play from certain positions. I just kind of play what I want to play from which ever position I want and then I adjust the play for that specific hand and situation based on the hud and opponent.

That might not be very special but if you're asking about what hands I play then I couldn't really tell you.
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05-02-2015 , 07:07 PM
Something I usually do how ever and a tip that I can give you all is to 4bet bluff!

If you see someone who is 3betting more than 5% of hands then throw in a 4bet and be prepared to fire a bullet on the flop if he calls. Obviously you're going to get ****ed some times and I honestly don't know if it is profitable in the long run because I am **** at using my pokertracker for analysis but I think it's been working out pretty well for me so far.
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05-03-2015 , 12:43 PM
Today was a nice 5228 hand session with a profit of $31.07

Not really that interesting to read this thread I would imagine as I always get to post the same thing.

I could post some interesting hands if somebody is interested but otherwise I think I'll just quit posting until I choose to move up the levels and actually face some resistance.

Bankroll: $239.01

I want $300 before I move up to 5NL.
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05-03-2015 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 2cool2limp
Today was a nice 5228 hand session with a profit of $31.07

Not really that interesting to read this thread I would imagine as I always get to post the same thing.

I could post some interesting hands if somebody is interested but otherwise I think I'll just quit posting until I choose to move up the levels and actually face some resistance.

Bankroll: $239.01

I want $300 before I move up to 5NL.
Mate, seriously, stop putting if off. 60 BIs is ridiculous for 5nl
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05-03-2015 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by IamNorm
Mate, seriously, stop putting if off. 60 BIs is ridiculous for 5nl
Maybe, but BRM is something that nobody seem to agree upon. Except for the fact that it should be used in some way ofc...

Some say 20 BI's enough, some say 40, some say 60 and at least a couple years back they were saying 100...

I think 60 is a good compromise. Not to mention that there will be a transition period where I'll have to gather hands on opponents and make new reads because of it being a different level.

Something I could ask you though is what is the minimum? When should you absolutely not move up?
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05-03-2015 , 02:21 PM
I think you're missing the point. It's 5nl, you're crushing 2nl. Do you see?
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05-03-2015 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by IamNorm
I think you're missing the point. It's 5nl, you're crushing 2nl. Do you see?
Right now my BB/100 is a solid 15 on 2NL.

If I was to move up tomorrow, what do BB/100 do you think that I could expect on 5NL?
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