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08-04-2020 , 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by whitemares
Are you still playing at 20nl for the purposes of a challenge? Because it seems like you're quite seriously hurting your profit potential with a bankroll that large
he just wrote his cost of living in Slovenia is €1000 monthly and he made €30k with poker in the last 2.5 years. what makes you think he has a large bankroll?
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08-04-2020 , 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ZKesic
You mean, why would I choose to have a stable, stress-free form of income instead of risking it all at higher stakes?
Lol "risking it all". Yeah if your networth is like <2k I can see how nl50 might make you feel that way.
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08-04-2020 , 09:22 AM
If I´m not mistaken, ZKesic said on the first few pages he doesn´t like poker that much, he is (was?) a student, and the site he plays (or used to play) doesn´t offer 50z, only reg, so his hourly would be lower. His decision is perfectly understandable (not that he´d have any obligation to move up just because his readers want him to do it anyway ).
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08-04-2020 , 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by FazendeiroBH
If I´m not mistaken, ZKesic said on the first few pages he doesn´t like poker that much, he is (was?) a student, and the site he plays (or used to play) doesn´t offer 50z, only reg, so his hourly would be lower. His decision is perfectly understandable (not that he´d have any obligation to move up just because his readers want him to do it anyway ).
Nope still dumb! Like theres no other sites he could join that would have 50nlz?

Like they could be tougher and knock a couple of BB off his w/r but he would still make more
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08-04-2020 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by megalomaniac23
What has your hourly been during this graph?
Somewhere between $20-25/hr.

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Originally Posted by enzet
he just wrote his cost of living in Slovenia is €1000 monthly and he made €30k with poker in the last 2.5 years. what makes you think he has a large bankroll?
My cost of living is around 700€/month and I have multiple other sources of income as I've mentioned before, so I was able to save pretty much all of my poker winnings. My net worth right now is a bit over 30k.

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Originally Posted by J.E.C
Like they could be tougher and knock a couple of BB off his w/r but he would still make more
Even if I did make slightly more, the variance would be way higher too, which I don't think is worth it.

For now, I'll maybe start playing some 50nl cash at times when the 20z pool is empty.
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08-04-2020 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ZKesic
Even if I did make slightly more, the variance would be way higher too, which I don't think is worth it.

For now, I'll maybe start playing some 50nl cash at times when the 20z pool is empty.
Why are you worried about variance when you have 6k buy-ins and a couple years of living saved? If you can get a better hourly at $50nl (which I bet you can), go do it!

Glad to hear you're gonna take a bit of a shot. Good luck!
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08-04-2020 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ZKesic
Even if I did make slightly more, the variance would be way higher too, which I don't think is worth it.

For now, I'll maybe start playing some 50nl cash at times when the 20z pool is empty.
The thing is you wouldn't be making slightly more you would make at the very least 50% more. The Current $30k you have made could be more like $45k over the same amount of hands which is a massive difference.

Please do add in some of the reg 50nl games I think you'll find they may even be softer than the games your currently playing so you won't be adding any variance
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08-14-2020 , 08:34 AM
Zkesic are you doing some sports betting on side for profit?
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08-31-2020 , 03:00 AM
August 2020:



Bankroll is at 31.4k

A large bot farm was exposed this month in NVG: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...posed-1775516/

Turns out I've played 70k+ hands vs at least 4 of these bots. They all have the same stats and never play vs each other. I've studied their gameplay, so in the future I should be able to spot them pretty quickly and exploit them to the maximum.
This is their overall graph in my sample:
Spoiler:


I had birthday this month and went on a one-week vacation. Was pretty fun. I was planning a vacation for the next month too, but Croatia is on the COVID red list now, so it won't be happening.

H1: I actually intended to fold the turn vs a check/shove. How ******ed do you guys think that would be?
    $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players

    SB: $15.97 (79.9 bb)
    BB: $48.98 (244.9 bb)
    CO: $20.10 (100.5 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $23.23 (116.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
    CO folds, Hero raises to $0.50, SB folds, BB raises to $1.60, Hero raises to $4.40, BB calls $2.80

    Flop: ($8.90) K 4 Q (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($8.90) 3 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $4.45, BB folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $8.90 pot ($0.44 rake)
    Final Board: K 4 Q 3
    BB mucked and lost (-$4.40 net)
    Hero mucked A A and won $8.46 ($4.06 net)

    I plan to play at least 60k hands in september.

    Also... 1337th post
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    08-31-2020 , 03:52 AM
    Not ******ed at all, 6 combos of sets vs 6 combos of AK which almost always lead the turn and never xr. You block diamond combo draws too.
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    09-29-2020 , 09:00 PM
    September 2020:



    Bankroll is at 32.1k

    I took some 50nl shots this month like some people recomended. 50nl cash definitely seems a lot softer than 20nlz. The regs seem way too tight and the fish are just absurd.

    My 50nl graph so far:



    I'll focus on playing mainly 50nl from now on. Though, there aren't all that many 50nl+ cash tables running on my site, so I might move to GG or Bestpoker soon.

    Some hands:
    Spoiler:
    20nl

    H1: Not repping much
      $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players

      SB: $18.86 (94.3 bb)
      BB: $21.62 (108.1 bb)
      Hero (CO): $9.56 (47.8 bb)
      BTN: $25.90 (129.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with T A
      Hero raises to $0.50, BTN folds, SB calls $0.40, BB calls $0.30

      Flop: ($1.50) T K 6 (3 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

      Turn: ($1.50) 3 (3 players)
      SB checks, BB bets $1.10, Hero calls $1.10, SB folds

      River: ($3.70) 9 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $7.96 and is all-in, BB folds

      Spoiler:
      Results: $3.70 pot ($0.18 rake)
      Final Board: T K 6 3 9
      BB mucked and lost (-$1.60 net)
      Hero mucked T A and won $3.52 ($1.92 net)

      H2: Limping is underrated.
        $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players

        SB: $20.98 (104.9 bb)
        BB: $27.37 (136.9 bb)
        Hero (CO): $8.55 (42.8 bb)
        BTN: $67.86 (339.3 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is CO with A T
        Hero calls $0.20, BTN folds, SB completes, BB checks

        Flop: ($0.60) 6 9 K (3 players)
        SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.30, SB calls $0.30, BB folds

        Turn: ($1.20) 7 (2 players)
        SB checks, Hero bets $0.84, SB calls $0.84

        River: ($2.88) Q (2 players)
        SB checks, Hero bets $7.21 and is all-in, SB folds

        Spoiler:
        Results: $2.88 pot ($0.14 rake)
        Final Board: 6 9 K 7 Q
        SB mucked and lost (-$1.34 net)
        Hero mucked A T and won $2.74 ($1.40 net)

        50nl

        H3: BvB
          $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

          Hero (SB): $30.55 (61.1 bb)
          BB: $57.30 (114.6 bb)
          MP: $51.50 (103 bb)
          CO: $52 (104 bb)
          BTN: $52 (104 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 K
          3 folds, Hero raises to $1.48, BB calls $0.98

          Flop: ($2.96) T J 6 (2 players)
          Hero bets $4.74, BB calls $4.74

          Turn: ($12.44) 2 (2 players)
          Hero bets $9.45, BB folds

          Spoiler:
          Results: $12.44 pot ($0.62 rake)
          Final Board: T J 6 2
          Hero mucked 9 K and won $11.82 ($5.60 net)
          BB mucked and lost (-$6.22 net)

          H4:
            $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

            Hero (SB): $21.94 (43.9 bb)
            BB: $61.07 (122.1 bb)
            UTG: $29.97 (59.9 bb)
            MP: $50 (100 bb)
            CO: $26.05 (52.1 bb)
            BTN: $36.95 (73.9 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is SB with 3 3
            CO posts BB OOP, UTG folds, MP raises to $2, CO calls $1.50, BTN calls $2, Hero raises to $21.94 and is all-in, 4 folds

            Spoiler:
            Results: $8.50 pot
            Hero mucked 3 3 and won $8.50 ($6.50 net)


            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Vai123
            Zkesic are you doing some sports betting on side for profit?
            No, I don't really know anything about sports
            Sorry for the late response.
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            09-29-2020 , 11:02 PM
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            09-30-2020 , 11:11 AM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by ZKesic
            My 50nl graph so far:



            I'll focus on playing mainly 50nl from now on. Though, there aren't all that many 50nl+ cash tables running on my site, so I might move to GG or Bestpoker soon.
            Good to hear and nice results so far man, keep it up.
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            10-27-2020 , 10:23 AM
            I moved in Slovenia for some months and i am glad to see that my adoptive country has pretty good players. If you dont mind where are you playing? Cause i a pretty new to slovenian market and i dont know what site i can use. Hvala.
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            10-27-2020 , 11:00 AM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by mih26
            I moved in Slovenia for some months and i am glad to see that my adoptive country has pretty good players. If you dont mind where are you playing? Cause i a pretty new to slovenian market and i dont know what site i can use. Hvala.
            I don't know if I'd call myself good, but thanks

            I'm playing at GG poker, Pokerstars and ipoker right now. You can get all the best RB deals for Slovenia here: http://si.pokerpro.cc/ponudba/

            If you're a newer player or don't use HUD I'd advise GG poker to you, as the cash games are really soft. The rake is pretty high, though (they even take it preflop).
            PokerStars on the other hand has the best software and most players, but is probably the hardest to beat (no RB). PartyPoker and ipoker are somewhere in between.

            You should take advantage of the first deposit bonuses and jump around the sites a bit. That's what I do all the time - I've played at 29 different sites lifetime.

            Have fun and enjoy the quarantine
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            10-27-2020 , 11:37 AM
            Thanks for the site, and yes i enjoy so much this quarantine cause i want to start to play poker��.
            Slovenia is nice for this beautiful landscape and mountains, but in the same time for the large amount of poker rooms(i come from a country where i had only starts, 888 and unibet), and to not talk about stupid papers to fill for state.
            Thats why i try to get in touch with slovenian players to see what are my best choices to start playing. If you have some other tips for me, i am glad to listen and i hope i dont disturb your topic.
            Hvala za odgovor, Celje tukaj.
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            10-31-2020 , 04:00 PM
            September 2020:



            +$538
            Bankroll is at 32.6k

            The graph is in BB because I played a mix of 20nl and 50nl. I've been trying to maintain the 1000+ hands/hr volume in cash games but it's pretty hard. I've decided to cap it at ~800hands/hr from now on (10-12 tables). This way it's easier to focus and the sessions will be longer.

            I've also started playing some HU sngs for fun. They won't count towards this challenge, though.
            Spoiler:

            Hopefully it goes better than the last time I tried, years back
            Spoiler:

            500 chips = 1 BI, so I was 40 BI under EV.


            Some Hands:
            Spoiler:
            H1: Limping vs an agressive reg.
              $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

              SB: $50 (100 bb)
              BB: $50 (100 bb)
              MP: $144.58 (289.2 bb)
              CO: $52 (104 bb)
              Hero (BTN): $28.10 (56.2 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is BTN with J Q
              2 folds, Hero calls $0.50, SB raises to $2, BB folds, Hero calls $1.50

              Flop: ($4.50) 5 T K (2 players)
              SB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

              Turn: ($7.50) 4 (2 players)
              SB bets $5.77, Hero calls $5.77

              River: ($19.04) K (2 players)
              SB checks, Hero bets $18.83, SB folds

              Spoiler:
              Results: $19.04 pot ($0.95 rake)
              Final Board: 5 T K 4 K
              SB mucked and lost (-$9.27 net)
              Hero mucked J Q and won $18.09 ($8.82 net)

              H2: Vs the same guy.
                $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

                SB: $88.24 (176.5 bb)
                BB: $57.46 (114.9 bb)
                MP: $103 (206 bb)
                CO: $72.52 (145 bb)
                Hero (BTN): $51.54 (103.1 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is BTN with 6 6
                MP folds, CO raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, 2 folds, CO raises to $12.50, Hero raises to $51.54 and is all-in, CO folds

                Spoiler:
                Results: $25.75 pot
                Hero mucked 6 6 and won $25.75 ($13.25 net)

                H3: Vs a nit. QTs would be way better obviously, but sometimes you just know they're capped af.
                  $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

                  SB: $20 (40 bb)
                  BB: $61.89 (123.8 bb)
                  UTG: $53.56 (107.1 bb)
                  Hero (MP): $20 (40 bb)
                  CO: $51.12 (102.2 bb)
                  BTN: $76.28 (152.6 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is MP with K T
                  UTG folds, Hero raises to $1, 3 folds, BB calls $0.50

                  Flop: ($2.25) 8 J 2 (2 players)
                  BB checks, Hero bets $1.12, BB calls $1.12

                  Turn: ($4.49) 5 (2 players)
                  BB checks, Hero checks

                  River: ($4.49) T (2 players)
                  BB bets $2.50, Hero raises to $17.88 and is all-in, BB folds

                  Spoiler:
                  Results: $9.49 pot ($0.47 rake)
                  Final Board: 8 J 2 5 T
                  BB mucked and lost (-$4.62 net)
                  Hero mucked K T and won $9.02 ($4.40 net)

                  H4: Vs a reg.
                    $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

                    SB: $35.46 (177.3 bb)
                    Hero (BB): $8.18 (40.9 bb)
                    UTG: $22.28 (111.4 bb)
                    MP: $22.06 (110.3 bb)
                    CO: $20.15 (100.8 bb)
                    BTN: $14.91 (74.6 bb)

                    Preflop: Hero is BB with J J
                    4 folds, SB raises to $0.60, Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $0.90

                    Flop: ($3) 6 A T (2 players)
                    SB checks, Hero bets $0.72, SB calls $0.72

                    Turn: ($4.44) 6 (2 players)
                    SB checks, Hero checks

                    River: ($4.44) K (2 players)
                    SB bets $3.10, Hero calls $3.10

                    Spoiler:
                    Results: $10.64 pot ($0.53 rake)
                    Final Board: 6 A T 6 K
                    SB showed 8 8 and lost (-$5.32 net)
                    Hero mucked J J and won $10.11 ($4.79 net)


                    I'll play higher volume in November and might even start taking some first 100nl shots if I run well.
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                    11-08-2020 , 05:37 AM
                    very smart bankroll managment
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                    11-08-2020 , 07:04 AM
                    In terms of bankroll management, I really like your chances of becoming the dumbest winning player of all time.

                    Seriously though, why would you want to keep such a massive bankroll with all the risk associated with that if all you need is maybe $3,000 or so online?
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                    11-08-2020 , 03:13 PM
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                    Originally Posted by dingdongdonkey
                    In terms of bankroll management, I really like your chances of becoming the dumbest winning player of all time.

                    Seriously though, why would you want to keep such a massive bankroll with all the risk associated with that if all you need is maybe $3,000 or so online?
                    He doesn't keep that much online.
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                    11-09-2020 , 03:00 PM
                    Yeah, I cash out my winnings every month. Two of my accounts actually got banned in the past for no good reason, so I'm pretty careful about keeping a lot of money online.

                    Also, just because I have a ~30k roll, it doesn't mean that I'm actually willing to risk losing 30k. That's why I'm not playing 500nl or w/e .
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                    11-09-2020 , 05:54 PM
                    gl man in future and stay original
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                    11-30-2020 , 05:00 AM
                    November 2020:



                    I ran really bad at 50nl this month, so I ended the month at pretty much break even.

                    People have asked me to record a bit, so I'll post my last session of the month: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAgOu9Ib1qw
                    The session was nothing special. I played on the tighter side to increase the volume. If anyone has any questions or advice, feel free to tell me. I'd like to improve.

                    Some hands:
                    Spoiler:
                    H1: I'm sure that everyone would've played it like this
                      GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players

                      UTG: $29.05 (116 bb)
                      MP (Hero): $11.65 (47 bb)
                      CO: $82.53 (330 bb)
                      BU: $40.80 (163 bb)
                      SB: $116.33 (465 bb)
                      BB: $25.03 (100 bb)

                      Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with A Q
                      1 fold, Hero calls $0.25, CO raises to $0.89, 3 players fold, Hero calls $0.64

                      Flop: ($2.13) 7 8 A (2 players)
                      Hero checks, CO bets $0.71, Hero raises to $1.62, CO calls $0.91

                      Turn: ($5.37) J (2 players)
                      Hero bets $1.58, CO calls $1.58

                      River: ($8.53) 2 (2 players)
                      Hero bets $1.72, CO folds

                      Total pot: $8.53 (Rake: $0.67)
                      MP (Hero) wins $7.86

                      H2: Most people probably overfold here.
                        $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

                        Hero (SB): $26.59 (53.2 bb)
                        BB: $60.01 (120 bb)
                        UTG: $35.39 (70.8 bb)
                        MP: $52.08 (104.2 bb)
                        CO: $52.64 (105.3 bb)
                        BTN: $50 (100 bb)

                        Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 J
                        4 folds, Hero raises to $1.48, BB calls $0.98

                        Flop: ($2.96) 8 7 2 (2 players)
                        Hero bets $4.24, BB calls $4.24

                        Turn: ($11.44) 2 (2 players)
                        Hero checks, BB bets $3.78, Hero raises to $20.87, BB folds

                        Spoiler:
                        Results: $19.00 pot ($0.95 rake)
                        Final Board: 8 7 2 2
                        Hero mucked 9 J and won $18.05 ($8.55 net)
                        BB mucked and lost (-$9.50 net)

                        H3: A really nice line by a reg.
                          $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

                          SB: $50 (100 bb)
                          BB: $54.24 (108.5 bb)
                          UTG: $19.09 (38.2 bb)
                          Hero (MP): $20 (40 bb)
                          CO: $63.13 (126.3 bb)
                          BTN: $272.62 (545.2 bb)

                          Preflop: Hero is MP with J K
                          UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.25, 3 folds, BB calls $0.75

                          Flop: ($2.75) 8 A 3 (2 players)
                          BB checks, Hero checks

                          Turn: ($2.75) J (2 players)
                          BB bets $3.57, Hero calls $3.57

                          River: ($9.89) J (2 players)
                          BB bets $19.50, Hero calls $15.18 and is all-in

                          Spoiler:
                          Results: $40.25 pot ($2.01 rake)
                          Final Board: 8 A 3 J J
                          BB showed T 9 and lost (-$20 net)
                          Hero mucked J K and won $38.24 ($18.24 net)


                          ...Btw, does anyone know what happened to Rapidesh123? His thread got locked in the middle of the month for no apparent reason and he hasn't posted anything since...
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                          11-30-2020 , 06:00 AM
                          In the 2nd hand aren't we blocking the hands that he will bet/fold turn with?
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                          11-30-2020 , 07:00 AM
                          ^ I think that he'll also bet/fold some 7x and 8x + we have pretty good equity vs his calling range. People tend to stab too much there in my experience and then overfold vs a raise.
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