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07-07-2020 , 11:44 AM
this guy does have the weirdest flexes

interesting you are gonna choose to forego a job at the "Big4, high finance, trading, IB, etc" despite your incredible experience in these industries. most be turning down offers hand over fist. recruiters hitting you up like bud did you play chess when you were 16 and get an undergrad degree? we're prepared to make an offer RIGHT NOW, but you have to say nah man i wanna play 2/5 in LA while living with my parents due to my strong virtues.
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07-07-2020 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Snook
Build a career, play poker on the side, thank me later.
I wonder how many times that advice has been given on PG&C when a thread like this one was started and how many times the OP followed that advice. My guess for the latter would be 0%.

In for the ride glgl
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07-07-2020 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by trampled
this guy does have the weirdest flexes

interesting you are gonna choose to forego a job at the "Big4, high finance, trading, IB, etc" despite your incredible experience in these industries. most be turning down offers hand over fist. recruiters hitting you up like bud did you play chess when you were 16 and get an undergrad degree? we're prepared to make an offer RIGHT NOW, but you have to say nah man i wanna play 2/5 in LA while living with my parents due to my strong virtues.
It does come across that way. Makes me think he's exaggerating and/or lying about his achievements and job offers he's got. Because no one who is supposedly this intelligent would want to live with their parents and grind live 2/5 NLHE.
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07-07-2020 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LiveMTTDegen
why dont all women look like that?
#freethechest.....man

Last edited by squid face; 07-07-2020 at 12:58 PM. Reason: cant spell proper
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07-07-2020 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LiveMTTDegen
why dont all women look like that?
I'm pretty sure that's a sex doll.
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07-07-2020 , 02:37 PM
Rtp, just curious your undergrad had an honors finance program? Or you mean you just graduated with good marks and got some sort of "honors"
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07-07-2020 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
It does come across that way. Makes me think he's exaggerating and/or lying about his achievements and job offers he's got. Because no one who is supposedly this intelligent would want to live with their parents and grind live 2/5 NLHE.
Lolerskates
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07-07-2020 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
good luck
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In for the **** storm
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Originally Posted by jrr63
RTP,

you say the best games are in California but I wonder if that is still true during the Corona epidemic. You live in Texas and from what I've seen of the TCH streams those 5-5 uncapped games look pretty good. And I have a few old poker buddies from Houston who play in some other good games in mid-south Texas, including one 25-50 game i know of (which is private so you might have to work on social skills).

And Miami Cheats mentioned the Washington DC area in the chat thread -I don't know how the games are now due to Corona but they were really good at MGM National Harbor as well as numerous juicy private games, if you are determined to move.

But whatever - it's your choice.

As the prior poster said it's likely that your long term EV would be higher using your degree but since it is clear you are committed to giving it at shot, GL.
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In. This will be the first PG&C I intend to read on the reg.
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Subbed - gl
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I thought all dudes were chest men?! amirite!?!?


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Subbed, good luck with poker, and staying above the fray
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#subthechessman
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In 4 slim's trolling
chat thread in the house!

welcome guys, thanks for tuning in.

Your advice is always appreciated

..well except for lolSlim haha
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07-07-2020 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by denks
If you're that much of a lock getting into finance, IB, trading etc why go for a career that likely will pay you less for the same hours worked?
Freedom, flexibility, playing a game for a living, and being my own boss. I’m aware that I’m thinking short term but I think I’m young enough to were that’s okay.

While you’re absolutely right about some/many big companies not being interested down the line, as my friend feelie has said to me previously no employer will discriminate against a 23 year old who worked crazy hard as a youth and at college and then took some time to mature and see the world before deciding what they wanted to commit to.

I want to give this a shot and while I think I’ll still be doing this 15 years from now, I think I can reasonably pivot into something prestigious in finance/accounting down the road if things don’t go as planned.

I’m not saying it would be guaranteed, but it’s a plan B after all.

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wow one hell of an intro, gl sir
Thank you!
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Originally Posted by Masq
Agree with this. Decisions now can affect the possibility of working for those places in the future.

At least lock in a job to start next year or in the future. If not, play it on the side of working and then assess what makes most financial / lifestyle sense.
See above. Thanks for tuning in!
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Originally Posted by SelimSuuuup
GL,

can't be a chessman thread without.

#BanTheChessMan

#GetIt
Thank you! #BanTheChessMan
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Originally Posted by wynner88888
GL buddy, just make sure that this thread/other people knowing and commenting on your business is by far the LEAST of your priorities
Thank you! I’ll try my best sir.

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Originally Posted by OldManDecaf
To have achieved what you have to date, you are clearly intelligent (high IQ I would hazard) hard-working and exceptionally motivated.

I'm intrigued why you would go down this road at a critical and likely decisive moment in your life, especially on a platform like pokerpros (which, hands up, I have no experience of) in country like the US.

As I understand it (I could easily be wrong) PokerPros uses a technicality to get round fed/state law (much like PokerStars did prior to Black Friday). Moreover, PP is unregulated and operates on trust basis built on agent integrity.

I wonder what your assessment of its durability/longevity is? And likewise, given the constant development of solvers/software/bots, what is the longevity of NLHE on any online platform?

I get that live poker is less affected by these considerations, but from everything I hear/read and see, live poker is a pretty awful environment for a talented, capable and resourceful human being to make a living, at the very least compared to other ways of earning a decent wedge.

I guarantee there is absolutely zero hate or judgement in my comments...I'm genuinely interested in why you would choose to go down this road and what your thoughts are on the long term future of (profitable) online poker?
Thank you for the kind words sir, I appreciate it.

Re PokerBros: I only plan to be doing that for a few months. This is because I’m not allowed to play in most card rooms legally at the moment.

Re Live poker: you bring up some good points and I get that this may be a poor decision from a logical standpoint but I want to give this a shot and am willing to give it my all. I don’t have much insight into how this pandemic will affect live poker moving forward, but I think there’s enough money out there to not only do “well” but to thrive. Hopefully that answers your question!

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Originally Posted by TheAdvantagePlayer
I don't get it besides curiosity/lust for poker, but if you had an opportunity for a relatively high paying firm, you gave it up for a "capped" earning rate - especially to play 100NL online and eventually $5/5 live??? most people go into poker because they don't have other options that pay the same or better. some people just end up there and kinda stuck/sad/okay/happy with the situation but have no future routes unless they really crush poker.

i think you're gonna be pretty sad when youre looking down at a much reduced salary after putting in the hours and doing everything right.
I get that man. Hopefully I can be an outlier!

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Originally Posted by ramabranch
I wonder how many times that advice has been given on PG&C when a thread like this one was started and how many times the OP followed that advice. My guess for the latter would be 0%.

In for the ride glgl
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
It does come across that way. Makes me think he's exaggerating and/or lying about his achievements and job offers he's got. Because no one who is supposedly this intelligent would want to live with their parents and grind live 2/5 NLHE.
This. RoadtoPro is a narcissistic liar. Screw him.

Haha enough people have tried to talk me out of this that I’m fully aware of what I’m passing up on and the potential consequences pursuing this can have.

Thanks for tuning in man, constructive criticism is always welcome.

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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
I'm just here for the lols. Good luck Chess Man. Come back to LA at least for a little while in my opinion. You can always try other places later. Hit up Vegas next summer, if there is a next summer...



The best live games are in Pittsburgh. Everybody knows that. Not even joking.
What an honor to have the legend himself join the fun

That’s what I’m leaning towards!

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Originally Posted by Minatorr
Rtp, just curious your undergrad had an honors finance program? Or you mean you just graduated with good marks and got some sort of "honors"
It doesn’t. Basically, it’s Latin honors which are based on good marks/grades. Cum Laude, Magna Cum Laude, Summa Cum Laude etc.

Thanks for tuning in. Have learned a lot from your strat posts in the past year.

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Originally Posted by ramabranch
I wonder how many times that advice has been given on PG&C when a thread like this one was started and how many times the OP followed that advice. My guess for the latter would be 0%.

In for the ride glgl
Thank you!
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07-07-2020 , 06:04 PM
OP, can you post your hours, steaks and win rate?
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07-07-2020 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
Freedom, flexibility, playing a game for a living, and being my own boss. I’m aware that I’m thinking short term but I think I’m young enough to were that’s okay.

While you’re absolutely right about some/many big companies not being interested down the line, as my friend feelie has said to me previously no employer will discriminate against a 23 year old who worked crazy hard as a youth and at college and then took some time to mature and see the world before deciding what they wanted to commit to.
Your friend is wrong.

These top companies want motivated driven people. If you showed up after 2 years and said you used the time to go travelling or something without building any expertise / qualifications in that time then it would not be well respected.

Gl with your pursuits but don't think that option will be open to you a few years down the line.
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07-07-2020 , 06:11 PM
I’ll post an update tonight wrt how the grind went today and get back to everyone else who’s being constructive and sharing good advice. I really do appreciate it and am excited for this as I stated in the OP.

Up $270 so far 6 hours in.
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07-07-2020 , 06:17 PM
$45/hr seems reasonable GL
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07-07-2020 , 06:48 PM
Unlike a lot of people in this thread, I don't think that forgoing traditional "prestigious" career paths is a mistake (in fact, taking those jobs is probably a mistake for a lot of people). If that's not what you do, don't make your life miserable just to make a few extra dollars. That doesn't automatically mean the answer is poker though.

I do think you should be more ambitious with your poker plans though. There's a lot more than just 5/5 somewhere (which you will almost certainly hate grinding before long).
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07-07-2020 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
OP, can you post your hours, steaks and win rate?
Rare, medium rare, or well done?
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07-07-2020 , 09:12 PM
Troll thread.
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07-07-2020 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Busto
Troll thread.
More entertaining than the 6bet thread at the moment.
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07-07-2020 , 09:17 PM
Any goals to lose virginity?
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07-07-2020 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Busto
Troll thread.

check the join dates for the dudes who have poasted up. There are prolly a dozen who have been on the forum for at least 10 years. That does not happen often - clearly op has some street cred.
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07-08-2020 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
OP, can you post your hours, steaks and win rate?
I plan to very transparent about all three of those things starting today but I don’t want to get criticized for past results.

I started playing live less than two years ago and with school, chess, etc. haven’t dedicated as much time to poker as I wished. Thankfully, I’ve been winning from session #2 and progressed quite rapidly in that time but I’m still a newb! My winrate/ skillz meh albeit already better than 90% etc. etc. so it’s all good

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Originally Posted by Masq
Your friend is wrong.

These top companies want motivated driven people. If you showed up after 2 years and said you used the time to go travelling or something without building any expertise / qualifications in that time then it would not be well respected.

Gl with your pursuits but don't think that option will be open to you a few years down the line.
My friend is the poster right above ya. He’s a legend in my eyes and quite successful I believe. I am both motivated and driven sir, but I completely understand your sentiment. While my mind is made up, I appreciate the dose of reality. I try to be open minded about most things. This isn’t one of them simply because I’m committed to giving this a shot.

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Originally Posted by Atlantic123
$45/hr seems reasonable GL
Haha thanks man. I wish that was my hourly atm.

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Originally Posted by NYC_Jon
Unlike a lot of people in this thread, I don't think that forgoing traditional "prestigious" career paths is a mistake (in fact, taking those jobs is probably a mistake for a lot of people). If that's not what you do, don't make your life miserable just to make a few extra dollars. That doesn't automatically mean the answer is poker though.

I do think you should be more ambitious with your poker plans though. There's a lot more than just 5/5 somewhere (which you will almost certainly hate grinding before long).
Well said. Commerce spreads 10/20 so should be no problem. Not that I’m anywhere close to ready for that anyways. It’ll be some time. Appreciate the thoughts, thanks for sharing man.

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Rare, medium rare, or well done?
medium rare is the only correct answer.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Busto
Troll thread.
+1. Screw roadtopro, he’s an entitled jerk who’s never worked a real day in his life. Probably a trust fund kid.

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Originally Posted by Gutshot2MyNuts
Any goals to lose virginity?
Don’t worry, your mom already helped me take care of that.

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Originally Posted by squid face
check the join dates for the dudes who have poasted up. There are prolly a dozen who have been on the forum for at least 10 years. That does not happen often - clearly op has some street cred.
You’re a real one, Squid. Thanks
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07-08-2020 , 12:43 AM
Rtp do you do solver work?

And seems like your main bread and butter will be 5/5? Are you looking to play online other than pbros?

Im in. Gl crushing the donkeys!
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07-08-2020 , 12:48 AM
Can’t speak to Wall Street or anything of that nature, but 1-2 years out of college I see no problem getting a job with a big 4 firm if he wants. I knew plenty of people who started at a big 4 firm after a year or two off. Sure it’s harder, but if his accolades are that impressive and he’s a reasonable speaker/has some connections then it’s not that hard.

I have a lot of regrets with my career path (including “wasting” time at a big 4 firm) and don’t hate on a young guy doing him for a bit. Gl man life’s long do you. Agree with striving higher than live 5/5 though, but have to start somewhere.
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07-08-2020 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Rutledge Smitty
Can’t speak to Wall Street or anything of that nature, but 1-2 years out of college I see no problem getting a job with a big 4 firm if he wants. I knew plenty of people who started at a big 4 firm after a year or two off. Sure it’s harder, but if his accolades are that impressive and he’s a reasonable speaker/has some connections then it’s not that hard.

I have a lot of regrets with my career path (including “wasting” time at a big 4 firm) and don’t hate on a young guy doing him for a bit. Gl man life’s long do you. Agree with striving higher than live 5/5 though, but have to start somewhere.

The only companies that would be prejudiced against a high achieving 21 year old seeing the world for a year or two before committing to their career are companies that no sane person would want to work at
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07-08-2020 , 01:24 AM
subbed. don't know why people got so toxic on you in other thread, your posts were funny / thoughtful.

let's see some heatering glgl
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07-08-2020 , 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
Rtp do you do solver work?

And seems like your main bread and butter will be 5/5? Are you looking to play online other than pbros?

Im in. Gl crushing the donkeys!
Not much unfortunately :/. Am I allowed to cite time as an excuse? However, a few of my friends that have taken similar paths advise me on solver recs in every spot when I’m curious and I’ve tried to spend the little time I had for poker pre pandemic towards grinding and analysis of those sessions. Starting next month I’ll be dedicating 50-75 hours a week+ towards poker and hopefully solver works becomes a mainstay in my routine. I love poker theory, it reminds me of chess theory.

I plan to start at 5/5 but definitely open to playing other stakes depending on how things go. It varies per casino as well. Between $500, 600, 1000 cap etc.

I’m planning to stick to PokerBros only until I turn 21, and then start playing live asap!

I was able to grind live sporadically throughout college since it’s 18 in Texas. It’s 21 everywhere else except for Native American reservations etc.

Thanks man!
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Can’t speak to Wall Street or anything of that nature, but 1-2 years out of college I see no problem getting a job with a big 4 firm if he wants. I knew plenty of people who started at a big 4 firm after a year or two off. Sure it’s harder, but if his accolades are that impressive and he’s a reasonable speaker/has some connections then it’s not that hard.

I have a lot of regrets with my career path (including “wasting” time at a big 4 firm) and don’t hate on a young guy doing him for a bit. Gl man life’s long do you. Agree with striving higher than live 5/5 though, but have to start somewhere.
This is good insight. I love tax. It’s very interesting. Audit otoh..

Thanks for the well wishes.

Update incoming!
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