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05-17-2021 , 05:23 PM
pman eats better than you do
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05-17-2021 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
pman eats better than you do
Pman is a mcdonalds specialist and somehow it appears that he does in fact eat better.

RTP - u got only 1 body mang. I would highly suggest trying just a little to eat more better.
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05-18-2021 , 01:47 AM
I don't believe that bullshit that you can't get sleep back.

Every time I sleep for less then 8 hours, especially multiple days in a row, I end up sleeping for 10-14 afterwards
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05-18-2021 , 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by YGOchamp
I don't believe that bullshit that you can't get sleep back.

Every time I sleep for less then 8 hours, especially multiple days in a row, I end up sleeping for 10-14 afterwards
Yeah but you can't get it all back is what I said. If you sleep 25 hours in a week you're not gonna sleep 30 hours straight on the 8th day. You can get most of it back in the short term so it's not a big deal if you miss some sleep here and there as long as you try to get it back. And if you drink coffee every day you're going to sleep less and you're body is not going to get all the sleep you need and you're going to be feeling tired when you wake up and want to continue the cycle by having more coffee.
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05-18-2021 , 03:34 AM
Caffeine impacts sleep quality for somewhere between 6 and 9 hours after consumption. Tldr morning cup of Joe is completely fine, afternoon and evening caffeine not so much.

But yea sleep is kinda important, can't be one to talk though given I'm posting this at 3:30a lol...maybe it's the caffeine
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05-18-2021 , 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Duncelanas
Caffeine impacts sleep quality for somewhere between 6 and 9 hours after consumption. Tldr morning cup of Joe is completely fine, afternoon and evening caffeine not so much.

But yea sleep is kinda important, can't be one to talk though given I'm posting this at 3:30a lol...maybe it's the caffeine
Caffeine has a half life of about 5 hours in the body. So if you drink coffee in the morning you still have 1/8 of it in your system 15 hours later. It will still impact your sleep quality and quantity. If you drink coffee every day you will not get as much sleep as you would if you consumed no caffeine.

I did drink a cup of coffee this morning, but I wouldn't recommend drinking it everyday. I try to drink coffee at most once a week. If I have to get up early or I'm gonna hang out with someone and want to be more talkative I'll drink some coffee.

I never drank coffee in my 20s and then in like 2018 I drank coffee nearly every day until I noticed I had 4 cavities. I'd only ever had one cavity my entire life when I was a kid up until that point. We all know that meth mouth is a thing, but what do you guys think is the mechanism behind that? Why is tooth decay so strongly associated with meth use? Dry mouth. Which is also caused by coffee. Obviously it's not as severe but drinking coffee is not good for your teeth. It's also not good for your skin. Also it leaches calcium from your bones.
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05-18-2021 , 05:03 AM
That isn't how meth damages your mouth lol. Heavy meth users tend to have bad teeth because it makes them grind the **** out of their teeth and a lot of drug users are so focused on getting drugs that they don't take care of their body.

FWIW, I have known several heavy stimulant users who had perfect teeth because they took care of themselves
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05-18-2021 , 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by kolotoure2.0
That isn't how meth damages your mouth lol. Heavy meth users tend to have bad teeth because it makes them grind the **** out of their teeth and a lot of drug users are so focused on getting drugs that they don't take care of their body.

FWIW, I have known several heavy stimulant users who had perfect teeth because they took care of themselves
Teeth grinding while not good for your teeth would not cause the sort of all over tooth decay that develops with meth use. Dry mouth is the main cause of meth mouth. And while meth users may not have the best oral hygiene no amount of brushing your teeth is going to combat that.

Oral hygiene, while important, is not nearly as important as diet when it comes to taking care of your teeth. There are indigenous people who've never been to a dentist and never seen a toothbrush with perfect teeth. Eat an alkaline not acidic diet basically and stay hydrated.

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What Causes Meth Mouth? Methamphetamine affects the salivary glands by shrinking the blood vessels of the oral cavity, which gives rise to a dry mouth. Dryness due to chronic addiction is the main culprit behind this condition. When a mouth becomes excessively dry, the acid levels inside skyrocket, acting on the teeth and eating them up.
Sorry to derail the thread but I don't know why anyone would not accept that dry mouth is really bad for your teeth. I literally never had a cavity my entire adult life and drank coffee for a year and then I had 4 cavities. I didn't stop brushing or flossing for that year. The only thing that changed was I drank coffee.
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05-18-2021 , 08:10 AM
Thought I would google it to see if you are right and it seems like their are several possible causes suggested and it basically pure conjecture what the actual cause is. It's probably caused by a confluence of all the above mentioned things.

Adderall (and lots of other medication) also causes dry mouth but there doesn't seem to be any correlation between taking it and dental issues.
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05-18-2021 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
If you drink coffee every day you will not get as much sleep as you would if you consumed no caffeine.
Lol you just made this up. 10mg of caffeine doesn't affect sleep at all (100mg / 8). There have been numerous studies on coffee and none show that it has any bad side effects, coffee drinkers even have longer life exepctancy.
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05-18-2021 , 09:11 AM
*exhales with relief
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05-18-2021 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by kolotoure2.0
Thought I would google it to see if you are right and it seems like their are several possible causes suggested and it basically pure conjecture what the actual cause is. It's probably caused by a confluence of all the above mentioned things.

Adderall (and lots of other medication) also causes dry mouth but there doesn't seem to be any correlation between taking it and dental issues.
It's not conjecture that dry mouth causes tooth decay. That shouldn't be controversial. Saliva neutralizes acids that are produced by bacteria in your mouth. Saliva has calcium in it which remineralizes in your teeth and hardens them.

Did you know saliva has calcium and other beneficial minerals in it?

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Lol you just made this up. 10mg of caffeine doesn't affect sleep at all (100mg / 8). There have been numerous studies on coffee and none show that it has any bad side effects, coffee drinkers even have longer life exepctancy.
Of course caffeine is going to affect your sleep. Less caffeine will have a less noticeable affect obviously, so it's better to drink coffee in the morning. You may not notice the affect 12mg of caffeine has on your body especially if you drink coffee every day and you're less sensitive to it, but to say it doesn't affect sleep at all is just erroneous.

Correlation does not equal causation. Coffee drinkers also have more money and better access to health care than non-coffee drinkers. People who believe in God also live longer. A bigger difference than drinking coffee. That must prove God is real right? Or they probably just lead a healthier lifestyle and have better social connections within their communities.

Sorry for derailing the thread everyone, I'll shut up now, believe whatever you guys want to believe.
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05-18-2021 , 10:09 AM
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Correlation does not equal causation. Coffee drinkers also have more money and better access to health care than non-coffee drinkers. People who believe in God also live longer. A bigger difference than drinking coffee. That must prove God is real right? Or they probably just lead a healthier lifestyle and have better social connections within their communities.

Sorry for derailing the thread everyone, I'll shut up now, believe whatever you guys want to believe.
It doesn't but it's also been proven that coffee drinkers have significantly lower rates of diabetes, alzheimers, parkinsons, and more fatal diseases. There has been no evidence as well that a couple cups a day significantly alters sleep patterns. Post a study that shows it, please.

If coffee gets you too excited then by all means don't drink it but stop spouting pseudoscience.
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05-18-2021 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
Sorry to derail the thread but I don't know why anyone would not accept that dry mouth is really bad for your teeth. I literally never had a cavity my entire adult life and smoked meth for a year and then I had 4 cavities. I didn't stop brushing or flossing for that year. The only thing that changed was I smoked meth.
FYP
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05-18-2021 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 2021shipit
It doesn't but it's also been proven that coffee drinkers have significantly lower rates of diabetes, alzheimers, parkinsons, and more fatal diseases. There has been no evidence as well that a couple cups a day significantly alters sleep patterns. Post a study that shows it, please.

If coffee gets you too excited then by all means don't drink it but stop spouting pseudoscience.
So now you're admitting it does alter sleep patterns just not significantly. Good. Thank you. I mean it wasn't a random guess for me to assume OP was drinking coffee when he said he only slept 25 hours this week. Believe whatever you want to believe. I could only find a study that showed that caffeine consumption 6 hours before bedtime affected sleep. No studies about morning coffee affecting sleep, but if you find one let me know. I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

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FYP
Lol you caught me.

I'm done guys, self-banning for a few days.
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05-18-2021 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
. I could only find a study that showed that caffeine consumption 6 hours before bedtime affected sleep. No studies about morning coffee affecting sleep, but if you find one let me know. I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
This study measured caffeine impacts on sleep after 3, 6, 9, and 12 hours which you would know if you read past the headline. And the results showed that there were impacts at the 6 hour mark but not at the 9 and 12 hour marks (hence the "between 6 and 9 hours" bit in my initial post.

Sleep quality should be completely unaffected if you're sleeping 12 hours after some caffeine.
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05-18-2021 , 01:50 PM
But what of my teeth?
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05-18-2021 , 04:46 PM
Don't smoke meth and you're good I guess
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05-18-2021 , 04:53 PM
Volume of poker >>>> caffeine as far as factors negatively affecting sleep ; as much as players hate to admit it (especially those aspiring to become pros), the game of poker induces a HIGH af level of anxiety.
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05-19-2021 , 09:43 PM
Hey everyone,

I found the discussion interesting! You’re fine Rick, don’t worry man. I’d imagine it’s been a rough week for your portfolio.

My mental game seems to be at an ATH, the swings have all just been noise to this point which has been awesome. I think a lot of that is tied to the fact that I have zero doubts whatsoever wrt where I’ll be in 3, 5, 10 years. Clarity & intentionality are essential, it seems. A constant flow state of sorts, I suppose.

I want to thank my friend Simon by the way, he’s helping me a lot with elevating my performance and plugging my mindset leaks. He is way more knowledgeable about the game than I will be for a long time, but has always treated me like a peer ever since I’ve known him and I appreciate that.

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Here is a link to his blog, just because it’s one of my favorites (in addition to the ones highlighted in post #1118): https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...iness-1750992/

You’re missing out if you’re serious about poker/the lifestyle and haven’t read it.



Will let the hands stand alone (i.e. without words.) So keep in mind that my lines in these three hands are influenced by my villains tendencies not stated here, of course…. Enjoy!

H1

400nl.

$970E with everyone.

OTTH

Pre-flop: Good reg RFI LJ. Next to act 3b HJ. Hero cold 4b SB $140 with A Q. Both V’s call.

Flop ($424): 6 4 3. Hero bets $175. Good reg calls. HJ folds.

Turn ($774): 6 4 3 8. Hero jams $652.

Spoiler:
V calls with K K. River is 2 and we scoop $2,075



H2

400nl. vs unknown

$800E.

OTTH

Pre-flop: V RFI MP $12. Hero 3b next to act $40 with 10 10. Folds around to V, who calls.

Flop ($80): 9 8 5. V checks. Hero bets $50. V calls.

Turn ($180): 9 8 5 4. V checks. Hero bets $120. V calls.

River ($420): 9 8 5 4 7. V donks $310.

Spoiler:
Hero tank folds. V takes it down



H3

400nl/800nl.

$1200E.

OTTH

Pre-flop: Hero RFI HJ $20 with 8 8. BB calls. Straddle overcalls.

Flop ($65): 9 8 7. BB checks. Straddle donks $40. I call(?). BB calls.

Turn ($185): 9 8 7 3 BB checks. Main V bets $140. Hero calls(?). BB folds.

River ($465): 9 8 7 3 5. V triples $200. Hero calls(?).

Spoiler:
V takes it down with 6 4



A friend of mine sent me this HH I posted itt last July the other day for lols. Quite the change of pace!

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HH4 :
40NL 6-max
Hero (SB): $48
V (MP): $40- spot iirc

UTG opens to $1. V cold calls. I make it $3.80 in the SB with KdKc. I want to keep MP in the hand here with AA-KK despite my equity dropping vs their ranges multi-way.

Flop ($12.40): Jh-4c-3s. I c-bet $6. UTG folds. MP min raises to $12. I call.

Turn ($36.40): Jh-4c-3s-2d. I check. MP $2.80. I raise to $7.60. MP AI for $24.65. I call.

Spoiler:
V shows and J2cc and wins the $85.70 pot on a 10d river


Especially surreal given that I haven’t binked anything (significant) in or outside of poker to date. Anyways, literally just getting started! Year one of many. So nothing too special.

Thread will mostly be 200nl hands for the foreseeable future I think, regardless of what I’m playing.

I want everyone, regardless of if they normally play 1/2 live or 25/50 online to feel welcome to share their thoughts/discuss strat.

For midstakes online+ that dynamic kind of goes away from what I’ve seen on here in 2021. Mostly just current/former pros engaging in discussion. At least constructively.

Thoughts are very welcome and appreciated!

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05-20-2021 , 02:21 AM
Few insights on your hands

1.) Reg calling your 4b as the original raiser is really big alarm bells as it's almost always QQ+ here at min. Obv really can't mess up your hand with this much equity postflop.


2.) **** board for you. I'm range checking here at 100bb's so I definitely don't like it at 200bb's. Pro's of betting is you get some protection but we really don't want to build a big pot on a board where we don't even have an EV advantage.

If it's a rec who's wide/station than betting is fine/the play; dont like it vs regs

3.) I'm ok with calling or raising. Might lean towards raise vs the 60% sizing on flop, as played it's fine. River is mandatory call.


You're definitely making great progress so keep it up. Poker is a lot different with chess in the fact that I imagine you have to give up everything to be a GM and then it's no guarantee. It's definitely possible to get to the top in poker in a lot quicker timespan.

Also as far as the iggy pool. You might be able to win if you game select, but I think you're giving up a decent edge vs any solid/good regular atm IMO. I have no doubt you'lll get there soon though
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05-20-2021 , 05:05 AM
suspicious you changed the subject from meth mouth to hand histories
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05-20-2021 , 09:38 AM
Was going to weigh in on the HH’s last night before bed, but decided I needed to get to bed ASAP after playing. Woke up to find that bbissick mostly said what I was going to regarding the hands, which feels pretty nice. Only thing I was thinking is that I’d be inclined to either bet flop smaller in HH1, or just x/jam even though we’re deep against almost any sizing. As bbissick said, you flopped so well that it’s hard to mess up that flop spot with that much $ piled in pre. I would just prefer to x/jam to potentially get some folds from QQ, which I think could reasonably happen. Agree this is QQ+ a ton, which means KK mostly given you’re removing half the QQ/AA combos. So even though x/jam likely gets called a lot and is what it looks like a lot, I still prefer to just stuff the money in right away when our equity is at its best and we max our fold equity generated. I think this is still okay at 200 bb in a rare spot like this. HH2 I would definitely range check that spot as well, even though TT feels most uncomfortable to check. If he’s a super wide fish it’s different as stated.
As for high stakes Iggy games, I don’t have a clue, but I think you’re on a good path just doing what you’re doing establishing yourself as hopefully one of the bigger winners in the 100-200nl Bros games. Plenty of money to be made there and set yourself up well moving forward. As you’ve said, it’s still early and building up a nice BR for the upcoming years can never be a bad thing. Personally, I feel like shot taking 5-10x your usual stakes can kind of mess up how you mentally approach your regular stake. I think you’re doing it just to experience it mostly, but it’s pretty easy to disillusion yourself when ya lose a couple BI’s at a way higher stake and undo tons of work from the past couple months.
Of course eventually it needs to happen though.

Edit: HH1 I actually don’t even hate the idea of betting stupid small (like 10%) and stuffing your stack in the times you get raised. Dunno if this is a thing or not. Almost anything works outside of fold basically.
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05-20-2021 , 02:38 PM
Coffee is more likely to push RTP's sleep schedule forward than change the net hours of sleep.
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05-20-2021 , 04:14 PM
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Also as far as the iggy pool. You might be able to win if you game select, but I think you're giving up a decent edge vs any solid/good regular atm IMO. I have no doubt you'lll get there soon though
This might be true, but I play 500z-200z and some reg tables on ignition and a lot of the regulars are genuinely terrible. At least for the stakes. Like I'll sit HU or 3 handed 500z/200z in the mornings and the guys will be 3xing and barreling / betting flops + turns they really shouldn't. He'll lose EV vs. a good reg, but beating fish + bad regs I think would make up for it. I'll post some LOL hands in my thread next month. Of course, That's only if he wants to move up stakes tho, might as well just play 200 on apps over bodog.
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