$105 effective. Main V’s session stats, according to the app: 20-32% VPIP, and running hot.
OTTH
Pre-flop: V RFI $3. Hero 3-bets BB $10.50 with J 10. UTG 3-bets $18. Hero calls.
Flop ($37.50): Q 10 7. V checks. Hero checks.
Turn ($37.50): Q 10 7 5. V bets $25. Hero calls.
River ($87.50): Q 10 7 5 6. V shoves $65~. Hero folds.
Thoughts?
HH3:100NL QhQs Line Check vs. whale
$105 effective. Main V’s session stats, according to the app: >50% VPIP, and running hot. Whale.
OTTH
Pre-flop: V RFI $5. Hero 3-bets BB $23.50 with Q Q. V calls.
Flop ($47.50): A 5 4. Hero c-bets $12. V calls.
Turn ($71.50): A 5 4 5. Hero checks. V bets $15. V calls.
River ($101.50): A 5 4 5 10. Hero checks. V shoves for 55~. Hero folds.
Thoughts?
HH4:100NL AdQc: Are you x/jam this river vs. whale?
$110 effective. Main V’s session stats, according to the app: >50% VPIP, and running normal. Whale. Extremely aggro and wide pre. Don’t have defined reads on postflop.
OTTH
Pre-flop: Hero RFI $2.50 UTG with A Q. V 3-bets BTN $8. Hero calls.
Flop ($17): A 9 3. Hero checks. V bets $6. Hero calls.
Turn ($29): A 9 3 2. Hero checks. V bets $11.50. Hero calls.
River ($52): A 9 3 2 Q. Hero checks. V bets $38. Hero?
h1 is a punt with KK non spade, flush completing turns we don't x/r non spade overpairs on board textures of this type. You can also split range on this board on flop, and KK non spade will barrel large a good amount.
h2 we are indifferent on river, but honestly villain has played this in a stupid and suspicious way (though he may just have no ****ing idea what he is doing and like be afraid of QQ/TT with AA or KK) I like check behind on flop, and flat on turn. He probably has a set of queens lol he is not meant to ever check QT7 rainbow as 4-bet aggressor. Like you would literally have to nodelock this situation for OOP checking **** as a solver will never check this board.
h3 I don't like bluffcatching this vs a fish, turn you should be check calling a good amount of Ax / Ax 1h / AT newaze, no need to catch this.
h4 I ship top2 vs a fish on this board / in this situation
Last edited by amazin lazer; 10-20-2020 at 09:49 PM.
HH1 - why is your sizing so damn small on the flop? Have spotted this a few times from you and it always looks odd, is there some method behind betting 25% of pot rather than ~70%? As played not sure why you're jamming, x/c seems better to me.
HH2 - confused on action here, you're in BB but acting after UTG postflop? Regardless, getting into a 4bet pot with JTs seems bad, if you have position on villain then just flat and don't go crazy.
HH3 - again with the tiny sizing on the flop. River is bleh but if you size normally you have a much easier hand to play.
Thanks for the feedback amazin lazer, Bloobird, and YGOchamp.
Results:
HH1: V folds to x/jam. Yeah, I thought x/jam was good OOP because V was getting OOL at a high freq and we need some protection vs. range.
HH2: No showdown. My bad, doing these manually. Was UTG vs. BTN.
HH3: No showdown.
HH4: I jam, V has 9 9
Re small flop sizing; it’s just a function of some of the off table study I’ve been doing. Usually misapplied, but I’m multi-tabling, putting in solid volume, and learning as I go so ok with that.
Will stick to not sharing my thoughts too often on my lines because I imagine that very few people reading this are trying to learn from me in any way.
Random but I will say it’s freaking ossum to wake up every day, be financially independent, and love what you do day in and out. Most of my friends are still in school haha. School was ez and this is challenging which makes the ride more fun.
H1: tough spot, I'm not actually sure how to react on the turn. Jamming is probably fine but I'm not entirely sure.
H2: well played. I'd do the exact same thing.
H3: pretty huge raise preflop. I'd probably size it down to like $18 unless you think he's a huge whale that's just never folding. As played, flop seems standard, turn is gross considering the sizing so you probably have to sigh call. River easy fold.
H4: well played. River is the easiest fistpump value jam in the world and it would be silly to even consider anything else. Bad luck on the cooler.
most of the robots I know have some 3b JTs BTN vs UTG
Confirmed. Thanks for dropping in, Aeseh.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 6bet me
H1: tough spot, I'm not actually sure how to react on the turn. Jamming is probably fine but I'm not entirely sure.
H2: well played. I'd do the exact same thing.
H3: pretty huge raise preflop. I'd probably size it down to like $18 unless you think he's a huge whale that's just never folding. As played, flop seems standard, turn is gross considering the sizing so you probably have to sigh call. River easy fold.
H4: well played. River is the easiest fistpump value jam in the world and it would be silly to even consider anything else. Bad luck on the cooler.
Thanks for the feedback and for stopping by, 6bet.
----------
Hey everyone!
Thoughts/Discussion Always Welcome.
Random Hands from recently
HH1:100NL A7cc: Interesting flop spot multi-way
CO has $350~. CO’s session stats, according to the app: 20-32% VPIP, PFR >15, and running normal. Good reg.
BB has $30~. BB’s session stats, according to the app: 33-50% VPIP, PFR <25, and running normal. Loose Passive.
OTTH
Pre-flop: Hero RFI $2.25 MP with A 7. CO calls. BTN calls. SB calls. BB calls.
River ($60): 8 8 5 Q 7. Hero checks. V shoves $73~. AP….Hero?
HH3: 200NL TPTK river sizing and line check
$200 effective. Main V’s session stats, according to the app: 33-50% VPIP, and running normal.
OTTH
Pre-flop: V RFI UTG $5. Main V overcalls CO. Hero 3-bets BTN $20 with A K. PFR folds. Main V double flats.
Flop ($48): K J 10. V checks. Hero checks back.
Turn ($48): K J 10 4. V probes $24. Hero calls.
River ($96):K J 10 4 3. V checks. Sizing?
Bonus Hand:200NL TPGK Receiving punt from aggro whale
$180 effective. Main V’s session stats, according to the app: >50% VPIP, and running cold. Notes: Huge donk. Spazz. Shoved $50 with 97 on JJ333 facing a $30 river bet. CRAI w/ 35cc on QQ9ss in a 3-bet pot.
Think this one is relatively straightforward, but wanted to share the good fortune . Let me know if you want to see hands like this one where the decisions are fairly straightforward but it’s a big pot relative to the stake, interesting, etc. Will expose results for this type of hand.
OTTH
Pre-flop: Hero RFI UTG $5 with A J. BB calls.
Flop ($11): A 9 3. V checks. Hero c-bets $4. V x/r $16. Hero calls.
Turn ($43): A 9 3 4. V continues $43. Hero calls.
River ($129): A 9 3 4 8. V jams $135~. Hero calls.
Spoiler:
V has Q 10 and we scoop the $360~ pot.
--------
I appreciate the feedback guys, thanks! It encourages me to keep up with this thread and poast more often.
H1 just barrel flop. good that you are trying to balance multi way and not over c-bet against a ton of ranges, but K high boards are literally your bread and butter OOP cbetting boards MW. size up flop
AP I have no fkn idea what to do, this spot is horrendous. calling cold and getting reraised would be pretty bad. I don't think that we want to 3bet flop without a combination draw, your EV of calling is not going to be worth a lot. worth probably 1bb if you call and 0ev if you fold hahhaha. We do have some stronger combos like KQ AcKx AcAx that we could call cold to protect range against reraises
Last edited by amazin lazer; 10-23-2020 at 06:54 PM.
worth a watch in your opinion? I've heard mainly good things so far.
Glad to hear the grind is going well
As someone who does not give a rats about chess I can say it is a very good watch. SPC (street poker chick) has enjoyed it immensely as well. Grabs u from the gitgo
worth a watch in your opinion? I've heard mainly good things so far.
Glad to hear the grind is going well
Hey Bob!
Definitely. I'll probably make another post about it later on when more people have gotten around to watching it- sharing my thoughts etc. Don't want to spoil anything.
There are very few (high quality) shows/movies that revolve around chess, so I find this noteworthy in ways I imagine are hard for most people reading this to understand.
Quote:
Originally Posted by squid face
As someone who does not give a rats about chess I can say it is a very good watch. SPC (street poker chick) has enjoyed it immensely as well. Grabs u from the gitgo
Happy November. Hero is turning 21 this month! Time to start to mixing it up in the live streets. Excited.
Make sure to watch Queen’s Gambit if you haven’t already..
Thoughts/Discussion Always Welcome.
Random Hands from recently
HH1:200NL JhJc: Simple Turn Spot
$200 effective. Main V’s session stats, according to the app: 33-50% VPIP, PFR >25, and running normal. Loose aggressive.
OTTH
Pre-flop: Hero RFI BTN $5 with J J. SB 3-bets $15. Hero calls IP.
Flop ($32): 4 3 2. V bets $16. Hero calls.
Turn ($64): 4 3 2 8. V checks. Hero? Sizing? Plan vs. x/r from this player type?
HH2:200NL QJcc: Simple Flop Spot
$200 effective. Main V’s session stats, according to the app: 33-50% VPIP, PFR >25, and running normal. Loose Aggressive.
OTTH
Pre-flop: V RFI $8 SB. Hero calls BB with Q J.
Flop ($16): A 10 9. V c-bets $11. Hero?
looking to improve my play in more common spots as well.
HH3:100NL Top two vs weaker player line check
$160 effective. Main V’s session stats, according to the app: 33-50% VPIP, PFR <25, and running normal.
OTTH
Pre-flop: V limps UTG $1. Main V overlimps BTN $1. Hero ISO’s BB $6 with A 10. Both V’s call.
Flop ($18.50): A 10 4. Hero checks. V checks. Main V bets $12. Hero calls. UTG folds.
Turn ($42.50): A 10 4 2. Hero checks. V continues $34. Hero x/r $72. V calls.
River ($186.50): A 10 4 2 6. Hero shoves $70.
Reason behind this hyper exploitative line was that I wanted to maximize vs the Ax and one pear hands this V has that wants to hero because of the price.
HH4:200NL 9h9d: Turn Spot vs whale
$180 effective. Main V’s session stats, according to the app: >50% VPIP, and running normal. Whale. Notes: r/c pre UTG w/ A5o. Seems to attack weakness. Calls flop c-bet super wide.
OTTH
Pre-flop: Hero RFI CO $5 with 9 9. V 3-bets $20 BTN. Hero calls.
As someone who does not give a rats about chess I can say it is a very good watch. SPC (street poker chick) has enjoyed it immensely as well. Grabs u from the gitgo
Thanks for the rec squid. I'm gonna check it out.
Hope you and SPC are doing well!
Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
Hey Bob!
Definitely. I'll probably make another post about it later on when more people have gotten around to watching it- sharing my thoughts etc. Don't want to spoil anything.
Good stuff. Yeah I find it interesting when experts see their topic of expertise represented in film/literature/etc, as I assume they'll judge it differently than the rest of us. If all the chess whizzes thought the show sucked but the general pop loved it, I'd be suspicious. Nice to hear that isn't the case
Any reason you’re taking so many passive lines pre? Are these your standard?
Hand 4-bet pre, hand 2 3-bet pre, hand 4 4-bet pre. Hand 3 is probably the least good raise but I’m fine with that. Technically some of these are probably mixed but If just raise them all pure vs described players.