I suspect these WR #s are biased by areas where poker is relatively knew and a bunch of people are playing a 5/10+ game that won't be around for very long. I assume the LA 5/10 scene has been around for ages but the buyins shifted every few years?

Mine are lifetime. There is nowhere left where poker is "new." It's rare for a new poker room to have opened up in the last decade. At best, you might have some winrates inflated by good home/private games.
It's rare for people to get rinsed in casino games, but it often happens in home games, especially when they start operating on credit.

Exactly. As someone who is logging 1200+ hours in different homegames every year (pretty much all of my volume), i can confirm the rinsing of players is the real deal. On the other side of the coin, this is why big action players/whales often prefer private games because they can often get some credit like they cant get in regular casino games.

When you say you haveng seen it but for a chart, and a friend where exceedingly rare, sounded like you were doubting the possibilt/likelyhood. I pointed out the ou ther guys were talkin /100 hands which translates to a much lower hourly...

Smh

It's new in TX in the sense that you don't have to know anybody to walk into a poker room and try it out. That creates a short-lived feeding frenzy anywhere it happens.

I’ll get back to some of the stuff above in the next few days.

Random, but I’m thinking about getting a small/medium sized dog. I miss my friends. Never owned one before. Not sure what I should be looking for either.

Recommendations/thoughts?

Smart, loyal, indoorsy, hypoallergenic, cute sounds good to me

Humane society or some other rescue and find one that's cool.

Don't get a dog if you're looking to play live poker for a living. You want to have as low a nut as possible as you establish yourself. Dogs are expensive to maintain. In addition, you need to put your effort into your game, not taking care of something else.

FWIW, I've had a dog for 28 of the last 30 years. So it isn't because I don't like them.

Dogs are insane amount of work if you don't happen to already live a lifestyle that accommodates them. A live poker player will often be away from the house for very extended time periods and getting home exhausted and not wanting to take Fido out for a proper walk.

Unless you already spend an hour outside in pure leisure each day and will rarely be away from the house for more than 8 hours at a time then get a cat or a tamagotchi.

Okay, thanks for the input guys. I’ll think about it some more then.

For the next few months, I will be home albeit I do plan to be productive and maximize my hours to a good extent. After that, it will be a much more difficult though for sure. Which is why I was thinking the time to get adjusted is now. I’m probably under estimating the overall commitment though.

Chess, beeball, poker, and dogs itt....clearly worth a follow

GL OP

Some people go hard at whatever they do. It’s a trait Im very jealous of to be honest. Regardless of how OP does at poker, you have to admire his willingness to try for something that intrigues him instead of “settling”.


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The RTP, has officially begun.

Thank you for the support so far everyone, I appreciate it!

I'll root for anyone with a dwan avatar.

gratz OP!

Great points! I don't think I'm at a level where I can think this way though- since I'm still making a lot of technical mistakes.

Wrt my point on having played live deep before, that was more so to refute the idea that I had never played live poker before. I know it doesn't mean anything. Sample size ido.

This monologue has a very DGAF feel to it

I appreciate you sharing man.
Agreed.

Keep poasting man, I find your poasts really insightful. I like that you keep it real and say what OP needs to hear instead of what they want to hear.

I appreciate the kind words.
I can't speak to the winrates that others are throwing out there but I can say that LA's weekday games = most places weekend games.

This is largely because there are 5x the games to choose from + lots of people with good jobs around these parts.

(Not speaking from personal experience but I tried to do my due diligence before deciding where to move.)

+1

will be back to reply to some more poasts and poast an update as well.

Thanks again everyone!

I’m in one of them. One could get 50+ hours of week of 5/10+ action out here and still game select religiously.

I’ll be starting out lower though.
A) I got a scholarship throughout my time in school so it wasn’t a huge financial commitment. I just thought it would be a good idea for future leverage, and I didn’t discover poker until I was in college anyways.

B) I take pride in my work as DMW attested to and go hard usually like shynepo said. My plans posts college didn’t have too much influence on my effort during it. Also, I find business/finance semi-interesting as well so it wasn’t a complete struggle to finish early and do well. Just time-consuming of course etc.

C) It is true that I could have devoted significantly more time to poker and myself if I took school easy and/or took 4+ years like most do.

D) I’m not passing up “opportunities for nothing” given that jobs are not passive income streams . I value my time and would like to use it how I desire. The traits that enabled me to have x,y,z opportunity may help me to separate me from the overwhelming majority in poker or elsewhere. Or not. We’ll see.

Are you saying I’m not going to live an extremely comfortable life if I do well in poker or? OK I’ll buy a house at 32 instead of 27- no big deal.

Does it matter if I have $10,000,000 at retirement or $3,000,000?

Wrt to the decision in general- I know you mean well- but I can’t engage with you there in good faith. I don’t want to draw attention to that as I had already made up my mind well before the start of this thread as stated previously.

Hope that helps!

Welcome! Thank you sir.

Welcome!

Correct. Thank you for the kind words.

Thanks!

I’ve played nl in la for 14 years. The only place in America that has 5/T 7 days a week. The poker pro community is tiny. Everyone gets to know everyone else’s businesses. Poker players gossip more than lawyers. Most pros are just bachelor kids. If they made even close the made up hourlies here we would see it. They would spend it. Games would be off the walls good. There would be many millionaire cash game pros. There’s not. The only millionaire cash pros I know have hit a tournament, come from a wealthy family, or play low volume high stakes. That’s it.

Draw2pat- Welcome. What about a guy like Andy Tsai? He plays high volume high stakes and I don’t believe he hit a tournament or came from a wealthy family.

LA is his home.

Yup

Chessman, outline your study routine and be specific wrt the solver work under taken

Thanks

You're saying if people made $70/hr pre tax we'd see a lot of poker millionaires? What? Also, plenty of poker pros are notoriously financially irresponsible or just flat out degens. There used to be a whole mythos and subculture about it (SIHB etc). Most poker players aren't playing 40 hrs a week but even if you did at $50/hr that's 100k pre-tax a year.

Not sure why you'd expect the community to be full of cash game millionaires. Otoh the poker community has a fair number of guys with low 6 figures behind, which is more or less what I'd expect to see if these hourlies (roughly: between $50-100/hr a bit less than full time) were real.

my thoughts exactly