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Old 10-16-2018, 01:16 PM   #126
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Re: 1/3 Grinding and Bankroll

Not a fan of the slowroll when all the money is already in.

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Old 10-16-2018, 07:33 PM   #127
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Not a fan of the slowroll when all the money is already in.

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He was a reg. Also, it wasnít a true slowroll because he didnít lose the hand.
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Old 10-16-2018, 08:11 PM   #128
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Lol anytime you don't snap call an all in pf with AA in a cash game your slow rolling

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Old 10-16-2018, 08:36 PM   #129
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Lol anytime you don't snap call an all in pf with AA in a cash game your slow rolling

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He also showed a bluff earlier where I folded the winner against him. He didnít exactly have clean hands.

When youíre talking about a $240 pot that no one lost, I donít think anyone should be that upset.
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Old 10-17-2018, 06:06 AM   #130
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Tonight's double-session went well. (No PLO...I got what I needed out of it - a little temporary change of pace - so it'll be a while before I return to "the
great game.")

First session, 3! jammed a LAG's BTN open with KQss, one player limp/called. LAG called AI for less, we make quad Qs by the river on an A-Q-x-Q-Q runout. Later get a triple-barrel bluff through with K2dd on 3d4d6d8x7x runout, V says he folded a small pair on the river. Nice thing about a bankroll is being able to reload when these moves don't work.

Left for karoake as I was up $300 and didn't want to play deepstacked. Sadly, karoake list was full by the time I arrived, so I drove back to the casino unsung.

Second session I got 33 in BB and b/b/j a A-3-5-A-4dddd runout, V called with T-high flush. Later got AA and raised straddle (min raise, didn't see the straddle), four ways to a J-T-7 flop, V donks $15, I raise $60, V calls, I put him AI OTT for $20 more, he calls with AJ and I hold. Calls a few raises and misses a few times, bled down and ended up just over $100. Was tired of losing my stack slowly and morning rush hour was soon to hit, so it was time to go.

Overall up $412 on the day.

October is a break-even month so far, but I'm on an upswing. Will this trend hold? Tune in....
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Old 10-17-2018, 11:30 AM   #131
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triple-barrel bluff with K2dd on 3d4d6d
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Old 10-17-2018, 12:56 PM   #132
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I don’t think anyone should be that upset.
It's not whether you think anyone "should" be upset, it's whether someone was. And someone was.

The only reason this losing idiot comes back to the poker room time after time (apart from a gambooling problem) is for the enjoyment of the game. You did something that prevented that enjoyment. I'll let you decide whether that's good for your long term bottom line or not.

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Old 10-17-2018, 01:20 PM   #133
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Yeah, the 6 wasn't a diamond. Oops. I missed my draw, hence bluff.
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Old 10-17-2018, 01:20 PM   #134
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It's not whether you think anyone "should" be upset, it's whether someone was. And someone was.

The only reason this losing idiot comes back to the poker room time after time (apart from a gambooling problem) is for the enjoyment of the game. You did something that prevented that enjoyment. I'll let you decide whether that's good for your long term bottom line or not.

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Fine....
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Old 10-17-2018, 04:30 PM   #135
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It's not whether you think anyone "should" be upset, it's whether someone was. And someone was.

The only reason this losing idiot comes back to the poker room time after time (apart from a gambooling problem) is for the enjoyment of the game. You did something that prevented that enjoyment. I'll let you decide whether that's good for your long term bottom line or not.

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To be honest if it is a nitty reg POS limpraiser playing 40bb I'd rather have him go home totally destroyed. These guys make the game such a pain in the ass.
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Old 10-18-2018, 08:59 PM   #136
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Short update before sleeping. Some run bad and play bad for a loss tonight of $550. Nice thing was it was my birthday and I was playing with a good poker buddy. Bad thing was I decided to play after I'd made up much of my losses in order to avoid rush hour and get back to a normal sleeping pattern, ended up losing my gains in the final stretch. At least I arrived to a delicious home-cooked meal with the family.

Also, I got slowrolled (truly slow-rolled) by this British reg whom I now despise and vow never to play with again. What a tw*t.
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:25 PM   #137
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Also, I got slowrolled (truly slow-rolled) by this British reg whom I now despise and vow never to play with again. What a tw*t.
Obvious comment is obvious (right?), but I fear I'm coming off as too much a dick in your thread if I make it so I won't.

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Old 10-19-2018, 02:46 PM   #138
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Obvious comment is obvious (right?), but I fear I'm coming off as too much a dick in your thread if I make it so I won't.

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Karma and your point exactly well taken.
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Old 10-19-2018, 04:43 PM   #139
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Yeah, sorta. Less about karma and more the fact that now you know how unpleasant it feels (although obviously the slowrolls were slightly different) and the reaction you have to it (i.e. "I'm never playing with that guy again", and given that most players you play with are worse than you that's not a great conclusion for anyone to come to).

As for not playing with this guy again, unless he's incredibly unpleasant to play with and makes sitting at the table complete enjoyment-based hell, I would base my decision to sit with him only on whether he was much worse vs much better than me. If he was much worse, I would gladly sit at his table and take all his slowrolls in good humour (likely joining in and laughing with him at his antics).

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Old 10-19-2018, 10:12 PM   #140
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Yeah, sorta. Less about karma and more the fact that now you know how unpleasant it feels (although obviously the slowrolls were slightly different) and the reaction you have to it (i.e. "I'm never playing with that guy again", and given that most players you play with are worse than you that's not a great conclusion for anyone to come to).

As for not playing with this guy again, unless he's incredibly unpleasant to play with and makes sitting at the table complete enjoyment-based hell, I would base my decision to sit with him only on whether he was much worse vs much better than me. If he was much worse, I would gladly sit at his table and take all his slowrolls in good humour (likely joining in and laughing with him at his antics).

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He's a regular good player, possibly pro, so no I won't be joining him anytime soon.
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Old 10-19-2018, 10:28 PM   #141
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Went to play early afternoon today due to new sleep schedule. The tables were meh, as is to be expected in early afternoon hours before the fun crowds roll in. Lost $300 in 1/3 and won $88 in PLO (I was sick of 1/3 and losing hand after hand...I needed a change of scenery). Also won lucky table promo of $300.

For the first time in recent memory, I started to become irritated at being card dead and began raising suited connectors, missing, etc. Didn't get AA or KK (QQ once, raised/all folded). Got a bunch of sub-premium but playable hands, like AT, AJ, etc. Those added up - not in a good way. Finally, after losing OOP with AQo (double-barreled a K OTT, V called both streets, I c/folded river), I became tilted, went completely ape-sh*t with 84dd against same V's LP open to $11 over several limpers (it just seemed weak), he put me AI, I called for the other half of my remaining stack, he flopped nuts with AQss, punted another $90 that way. It was definitely time to leave 1/3, so took the $300 I won off the promo and played PLO for a couple hours before meeting a friend for dinner at this nice Japanese place that served (among other things) sushi omelets.

Today I witnessed my D- game. I think this was the worst I'd played. . .ever!

Home game tomorrow at my place, much needed time away from the casino.
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Old 10-20-2018, 10:16 PM   #142
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After today's session, taking a little time off from live casino poker. I've been getting too frustrated lately at being card dead and have made foolish calls and plays as a result, forcing action where it wasn't warranted. Lost $180 in 1/3 and $300 in PLO, won lucky table again though.

It's definitely time for a break. I'm thinking a week or so off should do it before my Vegas trip at the beginning of November.
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Old 10-22-2018, 02:14 PM   #143
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Have to attempt to work on your mental side of the game, imo. Went card dead for x hours and didn't get AA/KK? Didn't flop a set in x hours or did but it didn't hold up? Etc.? In the long term, it doesn't matter. You'll get AA/KK and flop sets that hold up just as often as everyone else does over the long term. All that matters is just playing this hand that you have in front of you right now in this spot with these conditions as best as you can. If you do that better than most of your opponents over the long term, you'll have a decent chance at winning. So yeah, the key is to stay away from that D- game, cuz at that time you're just as bad (or even worse) as your losing opponents.

I find it much easier because I play so little (just once a week) and so I enjoy the poker session (win or lose, card dead or not, etc.) as for just the enjoyable outing it is. In your case with the amount of hours you put in, I can see it becoming more of a grind (almost a job) so it will be more difficult to keep yourself in a good mental state.

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Old 10-24-2018, 11:15 AM   #144
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Have to attempt to work on your mental side of the game, imo. Went card dead for x hours and didn't get AA/KK? Didn't flop a set in x hours or did but it didn't hold up? Etc.? In the long term, it doesn't matter. You'll get AA/KK and flop sets that hold up just as often as everyone else does over the long term. All that matters is just playing this hand that you have in front of you right now in this spot with these conditions as best as you can. If you do that better than most of your opponents over the long term, you'll have a decent chance at winning. So yeah, the key is to stay away from that D- game, cuz at that time you're just as bad (or even worse) as your losing opponents.

I find it much easier because I play so little (just once a week) and so I enjoy the poker session (win or lose, card dead or not, etc.) as for just the enjoyable outing it is. In your case with the amount of hours you put in, I can see it becoming more of a grind (almost a job) so it will be more difficult to keep yourself in a good mental state.

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Certainly agree. Hadn't been a problem until the past two sessions when things went haywire for whatever reason.... I think the most recent stretch of run bad got into my head.

It's been four days without grinding now and I got a lot of (law) work out of the way, got my sleep schedule back to normal, and feel pretty damn great! I had some bar renewal requirements that I needed to attend to as well. Been playing some free bar poker and PLO online. Nice to see some old friends. I mentioned my downswing and one of them suggested playing less frequently. That may help alleviate some of the tilt I suffered from recently.

Between taking care of the bar stuff and work, I've reduced my anxiety enormously and should be able to focus on poker better going forward. I even hit the gym.

Definitely needed this time away from the tables to reset. May put in a session this week, will see. Reading the free sections of Tindler's The Mental Game of Poker on Amazon. Don't know if I'll buy it.
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:49 PM   #145
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Went to casino today for an afternoon session. Goal was to play my A game, tight, no tilting, etc. Got AA twice, KK twice, QQ once, AK once, all held up. AQo, KQs, JJ once each, lost all three. Got set over setted once (88 v. KK), but overall made $150 in 4 hours. Happy to book a win.

One of my last hands I had K3 in BB and flop A-3-Kr. UTG limper bet $15, only I called. He bet $45 OTT and I folded to what I assumed was at best a chop. Dunno if I am overfolding there . . . should I be betting myself or c/r otf?
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Old 10-26-2018, 12:50 AM   #146
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Headed back tonight for a deliberately short session. Wanted to stay on my normal sleep schedule. Was at a really good table, but not too many profitable opportunities. Only big hand: EP raise to $11, whale called, shorty jammed $24, I raised $50 with KK ($30 behind), only whale called, I jammed K-high flop, he called with A7o (no pair, no draw). Shorty had AK.

Last hand of the night I made a mistake that made the difference between a decent winning session and a break-even one. Folded to V on BTN and he raised to $10, I call with AQdd in SB, BB calls. (In retrospect this would have been better off as a 3! but I didn't want to put myself in a tough spot if BTN 4!) Flop Q-6-7. Checks around. Turn: 8. I min-c/r BTN's $10 bet and he calls. River: 10. I blocker bet $25, he calls with T8ss for two pair. :/

Up $8 in three hours. Friend hosting home game tomorrow.
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Old 10-27-2018, 01:54 PM   #147
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Fun home game last night with friends. Low stakes. Made big mistake of bluffing calling stations (e.g., As7d on 2s-3s-7c-10d-Ks runout, V bets $4 river, I c/r river to $12, V calls with J8ss; I call down with 35o on 2-4s-Ts-7x-9s runout, bet 3/4 pot river on obvious flush draw getting there, V calls with T8o).

Was also card dead most of the session, and lost two big pots, one in PLO where I l/rr bad aces and KK flopped a set, other dude flopped a sfd that got there. Then 3! KJo in NLHE, three callers, all GII on Qc-Tc-8d flop, we run it twice, and KK somehow holds both times against me and QJo and AJcc.

Lost $80 overall, which is a lot in a 0.25/0.5 game. But it was a really good game, too bad couldn't find many value spots.

Can't even beat these stakes!

Another home game tonight. Happy to take some more time off from MGM, especially on a Saturday....
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Old 10-27-2018, 06:33 PM   #148
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Client meeting in Laurel, found out upon arrival she'd been moved to another facility. . . . :/

So, stopped by MD Live on way home for quick session. Folded at 1/3 for 30 minutes until I got called to 2/2 5-card. Called a raise with AhAsTh9c6c, flopped nut flush draw, overpair, and gutshot on 5-6h-7h, got there on the Kh river, made about $260. V was tilted losing two hands in a row and started harassing me for sucking out. So I hit and run. Cya, sucker! (To be fair, I had to leave anyway for the home game.)

Home game later. Hoping my bluffing last night will get me paid tonight. Thick fat value time.
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Old 10-27-2018, 11:54 PM   #149
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Home game was a total bore. Pretty much folded for four hours except for one PLO hand . . . flopped top set TTT on T-7-3r and GII with shorty who flopped top pair and oesd. Held. Broke even. YAAAWN.

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Old 10-29-2018, 04:56 AM   #150
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Tonight I started at 2/5 while waiting for 1/3. Got KK once in BB, 3! a LP raise ($25) to $100, took it down. Ended up $12 before I was called for 1/3.

1/3 was the nut low. Only played three hands, lost all three. Hand 1, called EP raise with TT, called $25 cbet on 8-7-2 flop, we checked it four ways on a K turn, BTN bet $40 (1/4 pot) on 8 river, I tank called and he had A8.

Hand 2, I check BB with A9ss. Flop: 6-7s-8s. I bet $20, SB calls, turn 8, SB jams $50, I call, river 8, SB has A8 for quads.

Hand 3, I raise $15 over two limpers with KQo, flop K-2-4ss, first limper jams $75 (I know this V does this with draws all the time), MP limper calls (a little worried), I call, V1 missed her draw, V2 had K-2o for two pair. I lose. I am extremely fed up with 1/3 at this point and put myself on the PLO list while I take a break and grab an iced latte compliments of MGM.

PLO went better. Made $448 there. Flopped quads for the first time in PLO and c/r V otr when I assume he had middle boat on 3346T runout. He later said he folded 66. Won a 3! pot with AAQQ3 with my 3, making trips otr. Lol.

Then my friends showed up for 1/3 and I joined them for a little before leaving. Made $60 at second 1/3 session after a KK triple up.

Overall up $260 tonight in 9 hours, but going to bed awfully late. At least I saw my friends.
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