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09-11-2019 , 11:03 PM
Too tired to write up the full session report now. Cliffs for tomorrow: guilty father, Vegas PLO redux, stick to mid-stakes, bro!
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09-12-2019 , 12:30 PM
So yesterday lost some starting at 1/3: 3! AQo (no spade) over weak open, got cold called IP by only dude at table who covered me, unknown rec, flop Q-9-5ss. I bet $45 into $90, rec raises to $95, I call, HU. Turn: Qs. X/x. River: 2s. X/jam $190 eff. :/ Wwyd?

5-card: flopped a few boats, got paid off. Up $400, then 5-5-15 opened and I gave it a shot. First real hand Indian rec opens 6-handed UTG+1, I pot AKK44ds, straddler cold calls, rec jams $500, we can only run it once and I lose to rec's AA and win small side pot. Re-buy. Limp AKTTxss, flop T93r (with backdoor diamonds for me), I bet, straddler from earlier hand pots, I jam, he calls, I ask once or twice, he sticks one finger into the air and he makes his straight ott. I say thanks for running it only once and leave, other pro at table laughs at this, I get PTSD from Vegas PLO session, this time stuck $1,150 in 30 minutes. I later learn from a dealer that sometimes the regs in 5-5 run it more than once among themselves but only once non-regs (read: assumed to be fish). Unfair! I'm just a little sardine trying to eke out a meager profit, and this presumably millionaire high stakes grinder killed my dreams. Poop head.

Go back to 1-2 5-card where I make another couple hundo and finish the day down $700. Not a terrible result for a 5-5 shot-taking day that went god awful. I was on a good upswing and I think my timing was poor to take another shot. I should have kept the momentum going at stakes I am more comfortable playing. Oh well, you live you learn. Needed a little mental boost so I used my app filters to remove high stakes games (5-5 PLO and NL 5-10) and I am a 7bb/hr.+ winner a low and mid stakes, so go me?

Oh yeah, guilty father part. So at 1-2 5 this bad reg forgets to bet Ts full of As IP otr and shakes his head, doesn't even really expose his hole cards quickly either while a couple people have shown straights already. He sighs and says he was out of it because he just told his daughters he couldn't come to dinner with them because he was working.... :/ He'd been playing/losing since 9pm the night before. Yikes. Sad thing is I profit from him regularly. Should I feel bad that I am taking advantage of his addiction?

Dark underbelly of poker, for those winners out there. There is a hidden cost to all your profit!

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09-12-2019 , 01:01 PM
No, don't feel guilty.
And I'm saying this from a rec's perspective.
I overextended myself financially. New car, one too many trips to Vegas! Run bad. So I haven't played live poker in two months. Some micro online of course. Why do I take a break and this dude continues to abuse his family like that. Because that's what he's doing.
No, don't feel sorry for people like that. Punish them. That's what they deserve.
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09-12-2019 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Nepeeme2008
No, don't feel guilty.
And I'm saying this from a rec's perspective.
I overextended myself financially. New car, one too many trips to Vegas! Run bad. So I haven't played live poker in two months. Some micro online of course. Why do I take a break and this dude continues to abuse his family like that. Because that's what he's doing.
No, don't feel sorry for people like that. Punish them. That's what they deserve.
Dang that’s harsh. But I understand where you’re coming from. Anyone who would put gambling before precious family time probably needs a good a $$ whuppin’. Maybe after enough pain they’ll figure out what’s really important in life.
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09-12-2019 , 03:24 PM
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5-card: flopped a few boats, got paid off. Up $400, then 5-5-15 opened and I gave it a shot. First real hand Indian rec opens 6-handed UTG+1, I pot AKK44ds, straddler cold calls, rec jams $500, we can only run it once and I lose to rec's AA and win small side pot. Re-buy. Limp AKTTxss, flop T93r (with backdoor diamonds for me), I bet, straddler from earlier hand pots, I jam, he calls, I ask once or twice, he sticks one finger into the air and he makes his straight ott. I say thanks for running it only once and leave, other pro at table laughs at this, I get PTSD from Vegas PLO session, this time stuck $1,150 in 30 minutes. I later learn from a dealer that sometimes the regs in 5-5 run it more than once among themselves but only once non-regs (read: assumed to be fish). Unfair! I'm just a little sardine trying to eke out a meager profit, and this presumably millionaire high stakes grinder killed my dreams. Poop head.
Not from nothing, but 5-5-15 is gigantic relative to everything else you're playing, especially in an Omaha variant. If not being able to run it twice/ending up stuck $1,150 in 30 minutes isn't something you're rolled for, you shouldn't be playing it. Even as a shot-take, seems like this was a bit ambitious.
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09-12-2019 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BlindingLaser
Not from nothing, but 5-5-15 is gigantic relative to everything else you're playing, especially in an Omaha variant. If not being able to run it twice/ending up stuck $1,150 in 30 minutes isn't something you're rolled for, you shouldn't be playing it. Even as a shot-take, seems like this was a bit ambitious.
I agree this was not a wise game choice for my roll. Won’t be doing this again for a while. Dealer told me it was a bad day to take a shot anyway given the player pool.
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09-12-2019 , 04:28 PM
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Dang that’s harsh. But I understand where you’re coming from. Anyone who would put gambling before precious family time probably needs a good a $$ whuppin’. Maybe after enough pain they’ll figure out what’s really important in life.
Lol, yeah, I scare even myself sometimes!
I just don't feel sorry for someone like that. How can I best describe it.
Someone wins the lottery and goes broke within a year. It's sort of a tragedy, but you have to feel contempt, not pity, for someone so dumb.
I feel sorry for the working Joe who's struggling to support his family.

You've been doing this successfully long enough now. You don't need any lectures from me. I'm sure you realized by now, you won't get too far in poker by pitying people.
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09-12-2019 , 08:35 PM
1/3 while waiting for 5-card, first hand dealt 99 call UTG open, multiway flop A-T-9dd, $35, call, pfr calls. Turn: 4c. $115, fold, pfr jams $200 eff., call, he has A4ss and I hold. Up $315. Called for 5-card, AA l/rr $230, raiser re-pots $800, third 5-5 player in for $5 calls it all off, we're AI pre three ways against another AA and random trash the 5-5 player called with, probably a good call putting both his opponents on AA, and whuddyaknow he makes a small flush. Thankfully I get it back from him with KK on K-J-3ss-4c-Jr and he pays off my boat. A small loss at 5-card, and called it up $250 on the day. BJJ class after terrible traffic getting there, 10 minutes late, missed the warm up. Got kneed in the nuts a few times by this lanky dude who wasn't as dexterous as my other partners.

Now home with family to celebrate my mom's 65th birthday. She jokes that she made it this far without a heart attack so she's in the clear for the next 65 years. She also now calls herself a golden girl. Gotta love her.

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09-14-2019 , 12:13 PM
5-card and free poker last night. Had fun at free poker, nice balance to stress of live casino poker. Ran well at 5-card, up $450, a couple boats, nut straight held ott, AA AI pre against...you guessed it, another AA and something else (this time KK), K flop, bleh. Rebounded from that over several hands, value betting the NUTZ and getting called by second nuts (which my friend Jeff calls the "taint"). Put bad reg with KK earlier on tilt when I asked him to stack his chips in front of him (they were in the seat next to him for some reason). Sometimes it's good to get under your target's skin, they might want to "get you back" later on (when you have it!).

Dedicated PLO home game, my first ever, today, then another home game to celebrate friend's day. Stoked!

Only 80 hours this month so far, I am slacking apparently, and only $2k to show for it. Playing more free bar poker is cutting into my bottom line. Will try to put in more volume over the coming weeks.

Bought my mom and sis earrings from this Native American pop up shop adjacent to free poker for their bdays (which are also adjacent). Gave mom hers, later she asks if she could give me some money to play with and give her 100% of the profits I make. I say most staking arrangements involve the player getting 50% of the profits. She goes, "well what about for family?"

I say, "enjoy the earrings, mom."

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09-15-2019 , 12:25 PM
Double-whammy home game day was fun, good day off from casino. PLO game was very action-packed, hand of the night I overlimp 59QKdd and flop checks through, turn makes it 78JTdd so I have the nuts, flush and higher straight redraws, fun player bets, I pot, he re-pots, I jam and I make my flush against his bare Q9. Later make nut flush (diamonds again) in 3! pot with AKJTdd against presumably smaller flush because V snapped off my turn jam when the diamond hit.

NLHE home game was also actiony, bomb pots after every A-high flop, but I got tired a couple hours in and made a bad call I wouldn't normally make (with third pair against a bluffer when several draws bricked, except the one open-ender that didn't), called it a night. Ended up $120 PLO and $15 NL.
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09-16-2019 , 02:01 AM
Played a longer session today, 9 hours, needed to get the hours in. Today should have been a $2,500 win at 5-card, but instead it was a $700 loss. Session-defining hand: overlimp JJ778dd, V/reg isos $15, three callers, I call. Flop: 7h-5h-4d. V bets $50, call, short stack jams $130, I call, V calls, third caller. Turn: 4h. I bet $300 into $600, V snap jams $1,300 ($1k effective), folds to me and I realized that not only did the 4h give me top boat but it also put two possible straight flushes out there (and obviously made 44 quads). I had initially put V on the nut flush draw but now of course I was wondering whether he had the straight flush. I just bet large when the board paired and he came over the top. Would the naked nut flush do this? (Granted, me and this V do have a little history of me stacking him on 3-6-8hh when I had top set and he had nfd+bottom two. Could he be on revenge tilt? Or does he have it this time and am I coolered?) Given the action I made a very nitty laydown, the short stack had 68, V had A8hh (AA) for the nut flush with straight flush blocker. He said he only saw that the 4 was a heart, not that it also paired the board, so apparently he made a mistake. Oh jeez. Well, I guess I should be grateful that I play in some of the softest games in the country, right? Next time I will not be folding to this V.

After this hand I got AAds AI pre for $700 and lost to some idiot who had it out for me ever since I told him we have similar playing styles and shouldn't be at the same table. I don't know why but he took this the wrong way back then. He raised to $25, I made it $100, he came over the top, I jam, he has 5678Tr and makes a straight. Oh well.

Then 3! AAQss and flop nfd+top pair and GII against middle set and lose. Called it a night. Kinda bummed out for folding top boat, but proud of myself for not playing scared towards the end of the session when I got AA and GII. Other than the 77 hand I played extremely well actually, but given that that hand was the biggest pot of the night it kinda mattered a little more than the others. Sigh.
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09-16-2019 , 10:28 AM
Woke up with that 77 hand still in my head. I do not normally dwell on these things but for some reason this one is sticking with me. It's not healthy.

Just gotta focus on the positive, which is that V jammed the nut flush on a paired board. These spots come up so infrequently it probably won't matter in the long run, although next time I am definitely just shrug calling it off.
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09-16-2019 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
Woke up with that 77 hand still in my head. I do not normally dwell on these things but for some reason this one is sticking with me. It's not healthy.

Just gotta focus on the positive, which is that V jammed the nut flush on a paired board. These spots come up so infrequently it probably won't matter in the long run, although next time I am definitely just shrug calling it off.
First person to reply to my strat thread on this hand said fold AP, or x/c, x/c, lose to quads or sf. So I am not insane. Phew!

Couple other hands from the session that I played like a CHAMP!

Call active V's raise with A998Tss and flop nuts no redraw on 7-T-Jcc. Short stack jams, I call, V re-pots, I call $320. Turn: Kh. I x/fold to V's pot. His wrap (no fd) got there.

Call raise with A9hh66x and flop 6-2-3hh, SB donks pot, I re-pot $400, everyone folds. :/ I am a 60% favorite against 54. (V was bluffing with 55 he said.)

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09-16-2019 , 12:02 PM
Last one before I head out for another (hopefully longer) session: overlimp with AsQdJ8d4d and flop Ad-Jd-3d. I x/c pot from V who checked his hole cards OTB. HU. Turn: 6d. I x/c $180. River: 9c. I snap x/c $300, MHIG against presumably Kd. Never folding second nut flush with three of the suit in my hand and four on the board. Doesn't hurt that V gave me the blocker live read checking his cards. (Although granted sometimes I do this with the nuts too.) Don't mess with DT!
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09-17-2019 , 04:40 PM
Here we go again, managed to delete my post. Not the day to do this.

Woke up very hung over, popped a couple motrin, played long into the night yesterday against my routine and better judgment. 14 hours. Wanted to get those hours in I guess since I have been slacking lately. Bad for my health. Definitely regret it. PLO broke at 1am, decided to play 1/3 for some stupid reason until 4:00am, stayed because spot at table, made $65 - not worth it! Up $650 PLO, -$30 2/5 (which SUCKS these days - so glad I got into the 2/5 while it was still good).

PLO AAKK7ss, GII against shorty who cold called off 1/3 his stack with QJJT9 and we GII QJ3r in spr 1 pot and I lose. AA AI pre against KK and another AA, other AA makes flush. It was a swingy day....

The more I play this game the more I realize that it favors really smart people with emotional self-control. The winners in my games all share these two traits.

Edit: Motrin kicked in, nice day today, going for a walk to downtown Bethesda. Life goes on....

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09-17-2019 , 05:15 PM
Funny thing at 1/3: fun spot at table is in hand with Argentinian nutpeddler pro, I’m rooting for the spot of course, spot donks $100 on K44, call. $400 AI on brick
turn, pro doesn’t immediately call. I let out “no snap call that’s good.” Oops. Pro folds, I tap table and say nice hand to spot.

Pro later wins a big pot against spot. No tap from me! Pro looks over at me and goes “no ‘nice hand’?” He asked for it, so I go “no I don’t want you to win.” “Why not?” “I have my reasons. You won the hand. You want a pat on the back too? I’m not your mother.”

Dnegs was right: F*ck the pros.

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09-17-2019 , 06:40 PM
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Funny thing at 1/3: fun spot at table is in hand with Argentinian nutpeddler pro,
Dnegs was right: F*ck the pros.
Table 29? ... I am pretty sure I know who you are referring to... I got to mgm at 7am and I saw him at table 29 sitting on a decent stack...

Yeah, I have played with a few times.. My take on him.. When he bets he has it.. He is on the nitty side... IMO.
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09-17-2019 , 06:45 PM
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Pro later wins a big pot against spot. No tap from me! Pro looks over at me and goes “no ‘nice hand’?” He asked for it, so I go “no I don’t want you to win.” “Why not?” “I have my reasons. You won the hand. You want a pat on the back too? I’m not your mother.”.
how many people do you antoganise in your room?
you have had about a dozen incidents so far. I bet your poker room will be cheering as a collective when you quit poker
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09-17-2019 , 06:55 PM
Hey dumbo. You ever decide if you were gonna quit that lawyer job?

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09-17-2019 , 08:32 PM
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Hey dumbo. You ever decide if you were gonna quit that lawyer job?

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Still deciding, but I think I will grin and bear it - for now - to keep parents happy. At the end of the day I think I do owe it to them given how much they sacrificed to put me through school.
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09-17-2019 , 08:34 PM
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Table 29? ... I am pretty sure I know who you are referring to... I got to mgm at 7am and I saw him at table 29 sitting on a decent stack...

Yeah, I have played with a few times.. My take on him.. When he bets he has it.. He is on the nitty side... IMO.
Yes it was him; he is a peddler of the highest order and I hate it when people pay him off. He overflushed me once and I FOLDED! LMAO.

He's part of this group of Argentinian pros in our room who have come here presumably on tourist visas and instead of sightseeing play poker for a living. Apparently a 2/5 reg called ICE on them? Lol.
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09-17-2019 , 08:49 PM
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Yes it was him; he is a peddler of the highest order and I hate it when people pay him off. He overflushed me once and I FOLDED! LMAO.

He's part of this group of Argentinian pros in our room who have come here presumably on tourist visas and instead of sightseeing play poker for a living. Apparently a 2/5 reg called ICE on them? Lol.
Yeah, I know all of them.. They are there everyday.. I think he does better at night.. I saw him with 3k in front of him a few weeks ago.. I was thinking WTF ... Why are people paying this guy off...
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