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07-13-2021 , 01:00 AM
Lost almost all my AA AI pre. Bleh. One held up multiway but it wasn't enough to overcome the other losses. So sad!

I am actually starting to question the wisdom of jamming ss/dsAA ai pre now that I've lost so many times as of late...!

Last edited by DumbosTrunk; 07-13-2021 at 01:27 AM.
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07-14-2021 , 12:09 PM
Ran well at 1/2 plo5, lost a little at 5/5 in a tough game. Booked a win for the day! One bad hero call otr against a polarizing sizing from a capable reg but otherwise pretty uneventful session.

Made this fold ott, happy I did (with blocker effects I probably have less equity):
ProPokerTools 5-Card Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: KJ39
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
AsKsTsAd9d33.55% 198,4335,683
QT66.45% 395,8845,683
Dumbo floats on....

Last edited by DumbosTrunk; 07-14-2021 at 12:32 PM.
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07-15-2021 , 08:32 AM
Well last night's 5/5 session took it to a whole new level of scum.

Started the night before last when I open and get 3! and reg not in hand goes "he folds," predicting my action. This was quite annoying and I told him he wasn't involved in the hand and should stay quiet. (I had a ds T-high rundown and called of course.)

Then last night an action player shows up and buys the button, which messes up the straddle. Someone asks about the straddle and another player who limps asks about it too - puts in the normal calling amount, then takes it back (so there is definitely a question). After a couple calls I ask if the action player wanted to just straddle in the blinds to make it easier, which we sometimes do (even though technically I'm not sure it's permitted). Same reg from the other night, who had limped, said it's too late and "you're not in the hand, shhh," raising his finger to his lips. I told him he was a douchebag and everyone told me he was an angle-shooter. Then he replied "they didn't say that to me face, I'll shoot you up. You're a pussy."

I filed a report with the floor to protect myself in case this guy is insane enough to act on this threat and then called it an early night.

Oh, and the action player from the same starts telling stories about gay men for no apparent reason other than he's from Texas and that's what they do down there is talk about gay men nonstop. One dude he knows married this chick but "he probably sucks dck, his wrists are limp 90% of the time." Another time at the gym this guy hit on him, "they're bold," telling him, "you're thick." (To his credit, he said he actually took it as a compliment.) This prompted the dealer to shake his head and express his distaste for being hit on by gay men.

Which reminds me of another time a dealer at MDL said she "keeps her shame to herself" about gay marriage. What kind of people are these casinos hiring?! Not to mention the ladies' room comment to me by another dealer at MGMNH and a ridiculous recent comment by a floor person about how he never sees me wear my hair in a man bun, he sees me wear my hair "up" (presumably a gender joke, but a bad one nevertheless).

And a week or two ago I was asked for my player's card by security - at most we are asked for our IDs. I happened to be wearing a tropical Hawaiian outfit and was quite flashy. I asked security what was up with this and they never got back to me. Guest services simply said it was an "accident."

Are people seriously trying to be funny or what? I am starting to draw the conclusion that poker rooms are not welcoming to certain groups of people.
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07-15-2021 , 09:20 AM
This might be viewed as inconsiderate, but it could also be like a red car syndrome.
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07-15-2021 , 09:30 AM
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This might be viewed as inconsiderate, but it could also be like a red car syndrome.
Red cars are really cool. That's indisputable.

But seriously, a person's appearance shouldn't justify threats or discrimination.

Last edited by DumbosTrunk; 07-15-2021 at 09:39 AM.
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07-15-2021 , 11:54 AM
IMO...

Reg saying "he folds" is definitely out-of-line.

So you were confirming whether there is actually a straddle on or not? If so, then I think that is fine. But if you're suggesting for dude to change his action to a straddle to make things easier after the limping action has already taken place, then probably not. Think both of you overreacted / "that escalated quickly" after that.

Overall, people in general are idiots (ok, now my bias is showing), although it is possible (?) there may be more idiots in this poker environment than others. This is something to consider if you're considering working in this environment long term, although it could be argued you'll find just as many idiots in other work environments.

What are the ages of the people doing the gay jokes? Older people (and even people from my middle aged group) come from a different time, and so I sometimes just cut them some slack regarding their outdated / ingrained views (which I hope youngsters will do for me when I get the olds). I think my suggestion would be to try to let some stuff roll of your back easier, but I'll admit I'm not sure that is the correct take (and certainly very easy for me to say as a straight white male who has never been put in those spots).

It's funny, last night I was actually having this conversation with a middle aged woman my age who worked with high school students. I guessed that high school students nowadays would be a lot more pleasant to deal with thanks to my belief that they probably have more empathy towards others that are different (versus what we did back in our day). She sorta surprised me with her opinion, in that while she thought they had more empathy in general (even explicitly mentioning towards gays+), she still thought a lot of them were little shits / *******s.

Ggoodluck!G
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07-15-2021 , 11:58 AM
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IMO...


What are the ages of the people doing the gay jokes?
Ggoodluck!G
Sadly they were in their late 20s/early 30s.
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07-15-2021 , 12:07 PM
Yeah, that's surprising / sad to me.

Sports-wise, I hang out in two very different environments.

One is my stepdaughters softball environment. Lots of gays+ in this environment and so obviously a very safe / respectful environment for all and zero tolerance for anything otherwise.

Another is my hockey environment. Lots of middle aged guys. Very different environment, and when you get hockey + locker rooms + guys + beers + dudes trying to make each other laugh, well, it is what it is.

Still, perfectly good people (as well as idiots) in each one of them.

GgoodluckG
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07-15-2021 , 04:28 PM
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This might be viewed as inconsiderate, but it could also be like a red car syndrome.
Funny you said red. I can never remember if it’s green or blue. It’s blue car syndrome. Baader-Meinhof phenomenon.
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07-15-2021 , 05:26 PM
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Funny you said red. I can never remember if it’s green or blue. It’s blue car syndrome. Baader-Meinhof phenomenon.
I’m not sure you are talking about the same thing. Red cars are more likely to be pulled over. Beider Meinhoff effect is a cognitive bias to perceive something more often than it actually occurs.
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07-15-2021 , 07:06 PM
It's probably juvenile but I find gay jokes funny. Not if it's at the expense of an actual gay person of course. Nothing mean-spirited. I can tell you from personal experience it's better to not let other people's comments bother you. You can only help it so much and it's ok to feel however you feel though. To be honest I feel like strangers talking about anything sex related is extremely crass.



Do you think I'm I a bad person for laughing at stuff like this? Or just an idiot because the bit isn't funny?
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07-15-2021 , 08:02 PM
Poker dealing is one of those jobs where professionalism often isn’t rewarded and in fact siding with players that tip well pays much better including agreeing with them when they make racist or homophobic comments.

Is the guy threatening to “shoot you up” a gangbanger? Or is he referencing your warning about a shooting at MGM recently?
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07-17-2021 , 03:31 PM
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It's probably juvenile but I find gay jokes funny.
Sure, but these were not exactly jokes that were being told.

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Poker dealing is one of those jobs where professionalism often isn’t rewarded and in fact siding with players that tip well pays much better including agreeing with them when they make racist or homophobic comments.
Maybe for some dealers the bottom line is more important than their moral integrity, or the are just racist/homophobic themselves and like hearing people who share similar views. Everyone is different though.

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Is the guy threatening to “shoot you up” a gangbanger? Or is he referencing your warning about a shooting at MGM recently?
I have no idea, doubt he was referencing the mass shooting threat from 4th of July weekend though. Hopefully he's just a hothead who runs his mouth too much and overreacted.

The shift supervisor, who never liked me to begin with, unsurprisingly sided with him last night and told me to stop getting into issues with other players or I would face consequences. Nevermind the threat, which he went out of his way to try to discredit (claiming it was a "boy who cried wolf" situation). I am pretty disappointed with how this was handled.

Last edited by DumbosTrunk; 07-17-2021 at 03:55 PM.
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07-22-2021 , 01:15 PM
I have been taking some time off after this whole threat fiasco, which threw my mental health into a spiral. According to my friend, apparently the games suck lately anyway so no big deal.
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07-24-2021 , 04:21 AM
Played some, lost some (top set and flush blockers to nfd, then lost top two against nfd+OP AI ott). Got it in very good the first time (70/30) and decently good the second (55/45). Yaaaaawn, this runbad is getting old as f. My friend reminded me how much I've won the past year so as not to take this steak too hard. Wouldn't be my first $10k downswing. It's just starting to get old. Poker gods, can you be creative and mix it up a bit for a change?
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07-25-2021 , 04:35 AM
Well nice juicy win tonight to start to turn things around...AKJ86ds AI pre multiway scooped it at 5/5/25. Not much else happened. At least I'm not stuck five figures this month anymore.

Thanks, poker gods!
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07-25-2021 , 03:37 PM
Interesting...I have no idea if this is even a good estimate of my equity that hand but meh:

ProPokerTools 5-Card Omaha Hi Simulation
50 trials (Randomized)
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Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
AdKcJd8c6s26.00% 130
2%15.00% 71
10%13.00% 61
15%16.00% 80
15%14.00% 70
20%16.00% 80
"][table]

The cherry on top was that a dealer who has made disapproving comments about gay marriage at the table dealt the hand so yeah . . . they got a bad tip on a $5k pot.

Last edited by DumbosTrunk; 07-25-2021 at 03:47 PM.
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07-26-2021 , 01:45 AM
Up $1,500 2/5, the rest was yawn. Just had the nuts a lot tonight, ez game. On the upswing again! Let's keep it going...!!!
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07-26-2021 , 02:32 PM
5/5/25 PLO5:



Another DT plate, keeping me going:



Haven't been playing in my usual room since last week, need a break from both the player who threatened me and staff who handled the complaint poorly. Best for my mental health right now not to be in that environment. I do miss my friends, however.
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07-30-2021 , 12:34 PM
Almost unstuck for the month. Let's goooo! ds AAJ8x held in multi-way 3! pot was the big one (AK433 runout v. wrap and KK), otherwise it was an uneventful 5/5/25 sesh. Guys hitting on dealer very hard (she took it well) made for a cringy experience. Oh, and lots of smack talk about female Olympic bball players. I just collected the chips.


Last edited by DumbosTrunk; 07-30-2021 at 12:57 PM.
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07-31-2021 , 01:04 AM
Does anyone who’s been following wanna list some of my strengths and (especially) weaknesses as a poker player? I’m trying to do some honest self-assessment. Thanks.
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08-01-2021 , 07:16 AM
Almost got unstuck for the month completely until I got AA a couple times and lost both (once AI pre and second time 3! pot spr 1.3 stacked off with bad oesd +bdfd and lost to wrap+pair...it was BE EV-wise given spr and exact holdings). All things considered, July was about on par with previous losing months so I am not complaining given that I was playing much bigger games. Was also back to MGM after a couple weeks, somewhat rocky to be back, not sure I will be able to keep it going. The bad experience really got to me and I was quite distracted. On plus side, did not see dude who threatened me or the manager who blamed it all on me. Still kinda scarred by the whole ordeal and I don't have the same positive associations with the room that I used to.

Also, people need to stop using the word faggt. Just stop.

Last edited by DumbosTrunk; 08-01-2021 at 07:25 AM.
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08-01-2021 , 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
Does anyone who’s been following wanna list some of my strengths and (especially) weaknesses as a poker player? I’m trying to do some honest self-assessment. Thanks.
Weakness:
This is easy, you get way too emotional/tilty focusing on how other people (players/dealers/floor) "behave" towards you. Frankly, you are too caught up in yourself and your own self image. You don't appear to be honest with yourself about yourself.

This all transfers into mental background strife which limits your ability to be at your peak poker abilities.
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08-01-2021 , 04:42 PM
DT - ive read the better part of this thread. My home casino is also MGMNH. A few observations:

when you’re winning you are on “top of the world”. It comes across that the game is almost too easy when all your 60/40s hold and all your decisions are perfect.

When you’re losing you seem to go down the spiral of tilt/better hands not holding up/uncertainty etc. You’re emotionally way to swingy.

Given that you play 5 card PLO you should be prepared for wild swings. I stick to holdem but I imagine the majority of the PLO pool is filled with players looking to gamble who don’t care about odds etc.

The stories about dealers and other players out to get you feel like a lot of it is you. At the end of the day you’re playing a game and it’s not that serious. I personally feel you let them considerably affect how you play and it’s an easy out for when you’re running bad.

I’m sure you’re a good, winning player but if you could control your emotions better it would help your game.


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08-01-2021 , 05:12 PM
Me and my crew always playing at mgmnh. We wreck that place on the reg. I'm surprised we haven't been kicked out for punking all the pukes up there.
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