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06-19-2019 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
Thanks guys! Grinding 1/3 now. 2/5 started kinda rough today so moved down.
I was there at 7:00am this morning and the 2/5 game at table 5 look juicy... But, I still went to 1/3 like a wimp..
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06-19-2019 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bruce@lfb
I was there at 7:00am this morning and the 2/5 game at table 5 look juicy... But, I still went to 1/3 like a wimp..
I ran kinda sh*tty there. Back at table 5 now. Leaving soon though. Starting to give it back. That’s a no-no.
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06-19-2019 , 08:51 PM
Solid giraffe, nice work!
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06-19-2019 , 09:38 PM
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Solid giraffe, nice work!
Thx! Checking out your vlog now....
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06-19-2019 , 10:15 PM
Up $460 today, down $100 1/3, up $560 2/5. 2/5 started rocky getting KK twice and A-high flops both times, once in 3! pot. Also overlimped T7o BTN and ended up folding on Q77J3 runout when UTG limper V c/r to $30 over my bet, bet $40 turn dark, and bet $260 (?!) river dark. I almost called in case he had KK/AA but it wasn't worth it. He very well could have had QQ or A7 too. Who knows? Not worth overbet of $260 to find out, that's for sure.

Not really making many hands so decided to play 1/3 where I ran marginally well but ended up bleeding down missing a couple draws and folding river with TT on JJJ96 runout when V c/r river small ($100 after I bet $40 otr). I think this is always a J. Anyway, he didn't show after I mucked.

Went back to 2/5 where game looked better and yet got stacked my first hand lol. Spewy V raises UTG, I flat TT, he checks K-K-2 and I check behind. Turn: K. He bets over pot, I call. River: 9. He jams $250 and I don't take too long before calling. Lose to QQ. I guess he got tired of punting his stack and he had switched to value betting...? :/

Reload and get a double with AA v. AK AI pre. Then overboat someone with K9 on K9794 runout v. 77. Lastly, same spewy QQ guy raises UTG, I flat AcAh, flop Tc9c4c. He pots it multiway, I call, two others behind me fold. Turn: 2c. He checks, I check. River: brick. He bets pot $250, I ask the dealer to spread the pot and then make it $525. V says "I don't think I'm good but I'll pay you off, I have the king." Calls with KQcc. Thank you.

Gave some back to random rec who called my open with KTo and kinda coolered me on JTT3Q runout (I had T8hh), but I think I played it well enough so I lost the minimum. Bet $40, x/c his $35 (?), lead 1/3 pot river and he just flatted the $75. Called it a night shortly after this. That's pretty much it.

After getting up super early and playing all day (14 hours...), finally got home at a reasonable hour so I should be able to get back on a normal sleep schedule tonight. Hooray!
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06-20-2019 , 06:06 AM
Woke up this morning around 5AM on 7 or so hours of sleep and I am pretty well rested somehow. Felt motivated to get up; ready for another day at the "office."

Forgot a hand from last night: iso AJdd $35 CO over two limpettes, fun lady calls, two limpers call. J-4-2r. $75, fun lady calls. Turn T. X/x. River: 6. She leads $125, I call, MHIG v. QJo. Lost a lot of value this hand; against her, probably should have played for stacks.
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06-20-2019 , 07:27 AM
Nothing better to do while I wait for a seat (both 1/3 and 2/5 are full!!), so posting. Yaaaaawn....

Running kinda bad this month. Up $2,500 in nearly 150 hours of play. Meh. At least I’m not losing. Johnny Vibes once said in one of his vlogs that is was impossible for him to lose at 2/5 any given month. I wonder....

Update: at 2/5. Some dude complains about the short stack killing the action. A second shorty sits while waiting for 1/3 and kills the straddle. Negative vibes.

Why are poker players so whiny?

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06-20-2019 , 02:51 PM
Morning session went fine. Now back home for a siesta. Will see how I feel when I wake up. Up $1,900, $200 lucky table promo, so $2,100 in around 5.5 hours. Get double AA v. KQ in 4! pot (don't ask...lol). Unknown V thought I was just messing around when I 4! to $195, 1/2 pot flop, jam turn. Because you see, us 2/5 players are always full of tricks. Heehee.

Then AKo UTG, UTG+1 fun player $30, three calls. I don't want any small PPs to hit a set when I flop top pair so I 4! $205, fun calls, all else fold. Flop 2-4-5r, I check, V $300, I CRAI $850, he pretty much snaps and I figure I need to hit my wheel draw or overs to win. Runout: 9-4. I table, V shows AQcc and I scooop!

Then stack a shorty in limped pot from BB with K7o on 77Kcc when he bet pot, I just CRAI for his $250 and he called. He seemed like the type who didn't mind sticking his chips in the middle since he 5! jammed 35o earlier in the session for 100 BB.

That's pretty much it.

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06-21-2019 , 06:55 AM
After nap, came back. A little 1/3 where I lost $75 after flopping a set and V turning what I assume was a flush. Couldn't take the slow pace of 1/3 so moved to 2/5 where I call UTG 5/10+ pro open to $25 with JJ behind fun old Asian lady in town giving her money away who also called (her nickname is "mama"). Flop J-6-3sss. Pro checks, mama fires $60, I jam $250, pro re-jams, mama folds, turn Ah, river brick. Pro: "got a flush?" I show. He tables AsAd.... :/

Back to 1/3 where I run it up about $450. Last hand of the session, Argentinian pro BTN makes it $15 over two limpers (a tad small), SB old white dude 3! $30, I flat BB TT, UTG limper flats, pro/BTN flats. Flop ($120): 9d-Ts-Kd. SB checks, I bet $60, fold, BTN flats, SB flats. Turn: 5h. SB checks, I $235, BTN tank flats, SB folds. River: 3c. I jam $350, get snapped by QJo. Oooops. Don't think I could have avoided this one. Two sets tonight, lost them both. Meh.

Ended down a whopping $600 this evening session. It's nice playing short stacked because going busto in cooler situations doesn't hurt as much.

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06-22-2019 , 06:49 AM
Last night's session was pretty much a snooze. Bought in $600. Got value out of a worse Ax on A-2-5-A-7 runout with AQo, flopped a set of 7s against AK HU on A-7-x (unfortunately, V didn't cbet flop), but then slowly bled down over the next several hours from up $350 to just up $110. Wasn't getting hands/connecting. Oh well. There's always next time.
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06-23-2019 , 06:52 AM
Bought in $600 again. Tough early going - very card dead for the first few hours. Got AA, flopped quads HU, won nothing post-flop of course. Table changed. After another hour of nothing, was about to go home. I told myself one more orbit. Got QQ, KK in that orbit (took KK preflop, QQ lost post). Then l/rr AA twice UTG and got the full double the second time. First V folded otf the first time. Ended up $460 in 6 hours.

Higher volume this month seems to be somewhat making up for running a worse than usual.

Sure am tired. Playing overnights again is catching up with me. Do I dare take a break for a day or two?

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06-23-2019 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
Playing overnights again is catching up with me. Do I dare take a break for a day or two?
You've been grinding some real volume lately. Make sure you're playing your A game but if you're seeing the results, keep the upswing going!
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06-23-2019 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TPTK77
You've been grinding some real volume lately. Make sure you're playing your A game but if you're seeing the results, keep the upswing going!
Yeah the only thing holding me back from taking a day off is that I am winning. I haven't taken a day off from poker in nearly two months!

I think I am still playing well. One potential misstep yesterday was not 3! QQ, but I don't think V was getting too out of line so it's not a massive mistake.
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06-24-2019 , 07:38 AM
Started a little 1/3 where I made about a buck fifty before being called for 2/5. 2/5 I was extremely card dead. Got QQ once, opened CO, BTN 3!, I 4!, took it down. L/rr KK and turned a set three ways on A-high flop (yes, I got TWO callers pre!), jammed $200 into $360, took it down. Then got nothing for a few hours and couldn't take it anymore so went to 1/3 where I missed a couple draws and lost about $100.

Ended up $167 tonight.
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06-24-2019 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
L/rr KK and turned a set three ways on A-high flop (yes, I got TWO callers pre!), jammed $200 into $360
It's funny how often my LRR strategy gets lol'ed at / "unicorn" game comments, and yet here you are in a completely different game getting two callers with a limp/reraise at what looks to be about 65bbs deep (and at bigger steaks to boot where people are supposed to know better), lol. LRR just prints money in these types of games to the point where raising from almost anywhere is just stoopid.

GcluelessLRRnoobG
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06-24-2019 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
It's funny how often my LRR strategy gets lol'ed at / "unicorn" game comments, and yet here you are in a completely different game getting two callers with a limp/reraise at what looks to be about 65bbs deep (and at bigger steaks to boot where people are supposed to know better), lol. LRR just prints money in these types of games to the point where raising from almost anywhere is just stoopid.

GcluelessLRRnoobG
Yeah, people don't like folding, especially to trapping short stacks who probably annoy the f*ck out of them and, as payback, many of them call to "get even." Also, very few can fold a pair pre, even if bad mining odds.
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06-25-2019 , 06:37 AM
Down $50 tonight. Lost $100 at 1/3 waiting for 2/5 - I can't even recall how at this point. Ran KK into AA at 2/5, got stacked. Then won a big pot at 1/3 with KK against QT on Q-high flop. V min-c/r flop, led turn smallish, I raised, he called. Then he donked river large on Q-8-5-6-7 runout and I called. Won $450. Then played 5/10 for an hour or so until the game broke and lost $30. Then nothing at 2/5 for another hour. That's pretty much it.

After the KK/AA hand I was a little down in the dumps in part because of how it happened. I 3!, both Vs (pfr and flatter) called. I jammed J-high flop two hearts (I have no heart), only pfr calls and says "I'm sure I'm behind now." And then tables AA.... He claimed he thought I flopped a set. Riiiight.... All I said was "well played."

I was even more sullen after the dealer at 1/3 following this accused me of "running his game" when I asked whether one player had another covered after an all in (it looked close). What an attitude. Meh. At least I recovered that KK v. QTo hand. Funny, because I left for 5/10 not long after this hand and the QT V got mad at me for leaving with his money since earlier I had asked not to break the table (clearly it was a good game - Vs jamming AA multiway in limped pots for $700 good; other Vs folding top two on JT3r facing said jam good (I had QQ that hand UTG and had planned on l/rr, I raised flop, and let it go after AA jammed behind me)). Amazing the things you see.
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06-26-2019 , 04:35 AM
Hey mate, enjoying the thread, could you post your 1/3 results so far? And what's the rake/buy in structure?

gl!
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06-26-2019 , 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JCon
Hey mate, enjoying the thread, could you post your 1/3 results so far? And what's the rake/buy in structure?

gl!
My 1/3 results are pretty bad. Around $8.80/hr. over 1100 hours. Granted a lot of these hours were when I was newer so dunno how reflective they are of my current game. I tilted more then, almost never now that I’m properly rolled. I also play much tighter ranges now. But most likely I’m just a 1/3 fish and a 2/5 fish on a heater...!

It’s actually funny you posted this because just tonight I was thinking that my game is much tighter/solid at 2/5 due to the higher stakes whereas at 1/3 I may have more leaks due to the low stakes nature of the game. Also, 1/3 is such a different animal from actual poker that I’ll probably never come to figure it out to be honest. Probably for the better. I never really enjoy playing poker at 1/3 anyway. It’s such a toxic environment.

At my home casino it’s 10% rake max $5+$2bbj. No flop no drop. The rake is an enourmous percentage of the average pot at 1/3 whereas at 2/5 it’s a tiny fraction (and at 5/10+ it’s all time raked anyway).

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06-26-2019 , 08:37 AM
Last night lost $150 at 1/3 raising/missing, getting outkicked with top pair once, missing a combo draw.

2/5 flopped two sets in a row (lol) and got paid the second time, so up about $500. Last 2/5 game broke and I played 1/3 a little more where I made $24. Ended up $350 overall.
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06-26-2019 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
Then won a big pot at 1/3 with KK against QT on Q-high flop. V min-c/r flop, led turn smallish, I raised, he called. Then he donked river large on Q-8-5-6-7 runout and I called. Won $450.
I commented on this hand in the low stress thread and I wasn't a fan of a lot of our actions, but what do I know as I would have folded the best hand in a lot a places in a big pot (although I can certainly be accused of overfolding, making a horrible one last session out that cost me half my profit for the night).

One thing I've wondered is if there is a difference in rooms that only have one steak versus multiple steaks. My room only has 1/3 NL running 99% of the time (once in a very rare blue moon will a 2/5 NL table break out). I'm guessing that may make a difference as to how players end up playing overall (as your villain above would get slaughtered very quickly playing like this, but perhaps he can survive a little longer in rooms where lots of other players may be playing just as horrendously as he is at the relative kiddie steaks for the room).

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06-26-2019 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
I commented on this hand in the low stress thread and I wasn't a fan of a lot of our actions, but what do I know as I would have folded the best hand in a lot a places in a big pot (although I can certainly be accused of overfolding, making a horrible one last session out that cost me half my profit for the night).

One thing I've wondered is if there is a difference in rooms that only have one steak versus multiple steaks. My room only has 1/3 NL running 99% of the time (once in a very rare blue moon will a 2/5 NL table break out). I'm guessing that may make a difference as to how players end up playing overall (as your villain above would get slaughtered very quickly playing like this, but perhaps he can survive a little longer in rooms where lots of other players may be playing just as horrendously as he is at the relative kiddie steaks for the room).

GcluelessroomnoobG
So this is one of the few things I have a lot of insight on having played all over and seen all sorts of ecosystems develop -- the biggest game in any room will attract the best players and sometimes the worst, plus some shot-takers from the next game up. So in a room where 1/3, 2/5, and 5/10 are all spread, 1/3 and 2/5 can both feature some soft lineups, and my guess is DT being selective about his 5/10 shots is exactly what he ought to be doing.

In a room where it's 90%+ all one stake, and occasionally a bigger game develops, the bigger game is usually a Friday/Saturday night thing where there's more bodies in the room and likelier to be a critical mass of highly competent players plus a whale or two to get it going, and then shot-takers populate it if they think it's lucrative.

So yeah, V in that hand would likely get destroyed in your room's 2/5 -- but in DT's, he's a middle of the road punter for that stake. Almost certainly losing, but probably not getting demolished because there's enough goofy people to either take shots at his top pairs with bluffs, or just not realize A8 is not enough hand to call down here or whatever.
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06-27-2019 , 03:18 AM
Typing this from my car outside an IHOP where I will soon pick up a country omelette and pancakes!!! YUM!

Anyway, very short session tonight. 3 hours or so. Just wasn’t feeling it and wanted to book a win and played scared near the end so time to hit 1/3 briefly then leave. Ended up $200 2/5 and $80 1/3.

2/5 got the full double with AKs against A9s who limp/called my $125 3! pre and called off my last $125 on T83r when I jammed flop. He even showed before he mucked. Then flopped a set of 4s but got little action.

Last hand open folded AKo UTG, solid UTG+1 opened $20, two callers, JT7r checks through. Q turn. Bet from SB and call. Clean river bet and call and SB had 98o v. UTG+1’s AA. There was pretty much no way I was winning a big pot this hand regardless of how it played out. To this player I am probably just mucking AKo versus his 3! UTG+1. And SB doesn’t see a flop in a 3! pot anyway so I’m not coolering him either. But still time to go folding AKo UTG.

That’s pretty much it. 198 hours played in June and I’m ready to be done with this month. Pretty burned out. Home game Friday thankfully.
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06-27-2019 , 04:01 AM
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Last hand open folded AKo /QUOTE]

this thread is gold

great proof of the variance in poker
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06-27-2019 , 04:35 AM
Haha, this Argentinian pro needled me saying he would have been all in pre with my hand and stack size ($600) and gotten the double. Oh well.... I've been AI pre AKo v. AA plenty of times before and they didn't go so well. Those 95/5s are hard to win...!

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