Yeh it's possible I guess. Dno why tf he'd get coaching tho or how he could possibly have time for it with that schedule lmao

If I was skeptical at first, I'm definitely calling bs on this now. Credibility went through the floor, if it wasn't already. Well played, paying off a couple of randoms to give their supposed testimonials. Well done.

Edit: Just a year ago that account was playing 25z. Pretty outstanding progress, wouldn't you say?

Clanty has played about 9k hands since he was reggin 25z :')

Who gets coached in to a $30k a month winner then bitches at coach for pennies so publicly. Extreme weird.

No wonder he missed his lesson, mf was busy grinding every spare moment of every day for the last month

how I missed this site

For those who dont have time to read it all here is a summary:



As for the syntax: mine shows completely something else
dd-mm-yyyy format as it is usual in the Netherlands.



Still find it to believe this graph comes from a single grinder.
Multiple persons (alias) maybe - otherwise its just a bot

Guys... what is going on in this thread lol, so much hate going on

The graph is absolutely real. I did mention to him that he was sunrunning throughout the sample and that I didn't think his real evbb was more than 3 (I didn't want it to go to his head and then come crashing down when the inevitable happenend), but a human is indeed capable of playing >250k hands a month and still able to show a profit pre rb - there's already a handful of ppl doing this that frequent the 200/500 or 100/200 pools, and I bet there are a ton of euro-grinders doing it at the micro's as well. God knows how many hands dennis does, but the guy must be cruising past 200k each month without batting an eyelid.

I've also completely stopped coaching as of last week (before any of the drama here happened) in order to focus on my own goals of reaching HSNL, so there's absolutely no incentive to fake graphs for credibility or whatnot.

This whole situation was caused over a misunderstanding, and once me and sportstrader finally spoke to eachother over Skype last night, we realised what had happened and came to an understanding fairly quickly. The reason why he posted here was because I was ignoring him as I was mad at what happened, but after speaking to him, he explained his side which slotted everything into place, so to speak. I asked him to post here to clear my name and mentioned that it would be nice if he could share the results he had with me just to shut a few haters up (eyes flaring on you meale, lol), I didn't even think about people saying they were faked. He did run very, very well, but yes, he did make 30k at 100/200z in the matter of a few weeks.

It was $800, not just a hundred or so...

Me putting in low volume has no consequence on my students volume. In fact it was quite the opposite with this guy, as it allowed him to grind 10+hrs a day and ensure the studying would be done during the sessions we had.

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Not much more to add. Everything is sorted, and everyone is happy (clearly not in here though ).

On the upside, this thread hasn't ever had so much attention lol

Goooood luck

Thank you so much guys, means a lot that you are willing to step in

Haha, it is only to be expected now!

You're right about the sense of humour. I'm good with the "you're bad at Poker" comments; they just fly overhead now, these accusations, however, did get under my skin a lil bit, I won't lie.

Low blow from you... way to kick a man when he's down, pal. Will just have to keep beating you up on the tables now.

Aye!

Lol, it's a bit of a love hate relationship

thank you bro

Hey clanty Im puzzled. why would someone who can crush 100/200z while playing the same volume in a month as you have on all stakes this whole year, bother to pay you for coaching? Infact why would he even bother or have time looking at this thread? Whats your complete 200z life time volume? Not even 100k hands is it? lolz.

I see this sportstrader guy made a thread last year about playing 100k hands in a month on 50z, and he only managed 33k hands, yet now he pumped out 250k and crushed. He called himself a crusher 1 year ago on 50z at the same time clanty was getting rekt on 25z yet he turned to you for coaching?

if you invest 0 time into improving, chances are you will fall behind

What stakes are you up to mirage, while clanty worked his way up from 25z to 200z (and some shots at 500z). What about your own progress? Care to enlighten us so we know you're not just jealous?

Jesus Christ. So much **** being thrown around in here. All the negativity seems to come from micro players who have spouted **** across multiple threads on here for over the past year so I’m gonna assume they just try to put others down as they don’t have the mental capacity to even get past 50z (or lower for that matter).

If you’re going to make accusations at OP just back them up. Or better yet, go do something worthwhile with your time (like try to get past the micros).

Gl with the the HS shots and your poker endeavours into 2018 Luke.


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So you're just going to ignore the idea that a guy making 30k and putting on 250k hands per month was playing 25z last year? I understand that you don't like the negativity. Boo hoo. Right now none of this makes any sense. Grinding 250k hands per month is possible, but it's absurd.

Give the guy a break, ive grinded 250k hands/month a few time, its really not that hard especially when you have a solid winrate and dont swing like a maniac.

I don't think there's anything absurd about about the guys results apart from his lack of life outside poker. If you play that volume and go from b/e to a slight winner you're going to get mammoth winning months from time to time.

This doesn't make any sense, people improve, obviously the student wasn't crushing 200z before coaching and obviously clanty is not the same ****ty 25z reg you think he is (Clanty improved massively this year, even i can attest to that).

The only thing I found weird was that if i was in students position, I wouldn't be publicly making accusations against a guy that has possibly completely changed my life.

For comparison, the best 500z player was coached by a very good 100/200z player a few years ago, by the logic of some posters in this thread that is not possible.

I'm not entirely sure what the hell is going on in this post, and I don't even know if I'm supposed to defend myself or defend Clanty! Some of you are wondering why I would want coaching from him and some are questioning me or my graphs lol. So here comes a few paragraphs of endless brag to make me look like the pompous pr1ck I am :-)

I've played poker for over 10 years, and every year apart from 2017 I've played around 2mill hands or more and made loads of money every year. 250k hands in a month isn't a big deal at all, also, I played 300k in November, not 250... 4 years ago I played 450k hands in a month of nl200-nl2k when zoom wasn't even a thing. If I was playing now and rakeback still existed 400k hands at breakeven or better playing zoom would've been easy. I even limited myself to not playing too much in November since I skipped playing when I didn't feel good to maintain a decent winrate since it's pointless now w/o RB.

I dunno if I played z25 last year, but I definitely played z25 even in October of this year, but I fail to see why this matters anything? I played nl1k pound/euro on eurosites in August, and I was up around $80k for the first 6 months of the year.. If my goal was to make 6 digits $ a year and not care at all about trying to get to the next echelon I would've just kept playing nl200-nl1k on random sites where even the best reg would struggle to be z50 end boss. I decided I want to get very good in this game (again), and I love the convenience of zoom, so I switched to Stars and started grinding my way through the limits. I had 10bb/100 on z25 in 200k hands, z50 was harder as I started playing vs a few players that had actually seen a coaching video or spent a minute studying for the last 5 years (which I hadn't...), but I still had 4bb/100 over 170k hands there. I moved to z100 where I actually started facing opponents I felt uncomfortable against, but that also made me change my game, and I improved infinitely just by playing vs better players. I didn't crush right off the bat, but I was winning at a decent clip after a little while.

I realized that I would actually have to get a coach as starting to study on my own was less than 1% chance of happening, so I started looking around for someone that is strong on what I'm weak at, and having heard the word PIO I wanted to start working with that, etc., and whatever it took to get me crushing z500 asap. Clanty is very strong with PIO and does all the math I'm way too lazy to do myself in the theoretical part of the game, so his skills combined with my (I like to think; natutal high poker IQ and 20mill++ hands of experience) was a good combination. I don't know why him having played a lot less poker than me makes him a bad coach. Since starting on z100/z200 I've maintained >5bb/100 on both stakes over more than half a million hands with huge volume. Oh, and I had $125 on my Pokerstars account the 26th of October, winning more than $30k in a month without making a single deposit.

I might make a lot more money playing poker than Clanty, but he is a million times better coach than I would be, despite me consistently making 6 digits a year. I know he doesn't need defending in his coaching abilities, especially not since he's not looking to make more money by coaching now, but since you got me replying again I might as well address it. Making $100k in a year isn't a goal that gets me remotely excited anymore, which was why I started playing zoom, and now Clanty has given me the tools to probably make $200k next year (5bb/100 over 2mill z200 hands). I'm probably not good enough for 5bb/100 over that volume yet, but that, or beating z500 for a decent clip at a lot less volume to get to $200k is the goal.

Maybe we can just put the discussion to rest on whether my graphs are just bogus, if Clanty paid me for publicity, whether he is a bad coach or whatever. Even if it mattered, everything got blown way out of proportions, and I don't see the point. I think wellfvcku's post was the best I've seen...

Pontylad: I'm sure if you read Clanty's response you'll understand why I did what I did. It wasn't the money, and I appreciate Clanty's coaching immensely and it had nothing to do with that.

PS. I play more than 1000 hands an hour when I 4 table zoom, so 300k hands in a month is only 10 hours a day. A lot of professions require you to work 60-80 hours a week every week of every month for the entire year. I did it for a month. It's not even hard.. Volume is all about practice, and it's almost the same as consistently going to the gym. If I go running/gym 5 times a week consistently it's super easy, and I'm looking forward to it since it's a break in the grind. If I get drunk for a week straight and eat unhealthy for that week, it's a ****ing nightmare to get back to go running again. It's the same with grinding. Right now I've been moving and stressing a lot and I don't feel like sitting down and just grind for 10 hours, but when I'm in the zone I enjoy it, and I just wake up every morning, get some caffeine, play 5k +/- hands before breakfast, eat a small meal, play 2k more hands then do my workout. Then I'll play anything from 3-8k hands more afterwards.

I might be lucky that I can maintain almost the same concentration after 12 hours as in the first hour, but I think you can practice these skills to a huge degree, and I just think all poker players are lazy and complacent thinking they don't have to or shouldn't work the minimum of 40 hours a week at least that everyone else in the world does, just because they can make a decent living working less. I think that's the completely wrong mentality, and if you look in the "real world" everyone that works 40 hours are in the dead end jobs that gives you the least amount of money, while the ones working 60-100 hours a week like surgeons and lawyers make a helluva lot more per hour, but they still work more. I would rather be a surgeon than a UPS guy just playing poker because I can and I can get by with 10 hours a week. That's not to say I haven't done it, and in fact this year from January-July I didn't play 100 hours a single month and I went out and got drunk every night just because my hourly was so high I really didn't care. I don't want to do that again, and if my hourly is high that's not a reason to play less, I think it's a reason to play more.

Why do you need 6 figures a year if you never leave your PC lol?

Not hating, you're a sicko. Probably too sick.

Hard to buy your own place with less than 6 figures a year nowadays

No human can maintain the same level of concentration after 12 hours, not even close. Your post is a load of crap sorry.

maybe he's asian

Did you just assume his race?

250k hands a month is some gazzyb prop bet ****, why TF would anyone actually do this all year long? Surely he's 8+tabling zoom?

Did you just assume its gender?

I have never seen one positive/optimistic post of you in my life. Maybe you should live your miserable life on your own and get the **** away from forums and communities.