06-03-2017
, 06:12 AM
ty man 
hand reviews, sweats, pio etc, just gotta do lots of it!
obv
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Will be streaming later on today on Twitch @ http://www.twitch.tv/NhsRS as part (and start) of my new BR challenge. The challenge will be $1k-$5k, starting at 50z, for 4hrs on Saturday/Sunday, with the potential for an odd stream in the week.
I'll still be grinding 200z off stream as usual just in case anyone is wondering.
Hope some of you come to watch.
GL
hand reviews, sweats, pio etc, just gotta do lots of it!
obv
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Will be streaming later on today on Twitch @ http://www.twitch.tv/NhsRS as part (and start) of my new BR challenge. The challenge will be $1k-$5k, starting at 50z, for 4hrs on Saturday/Sunday, with the potential for an odd stream in the week.
I'll still be grinding 200z off stream as usual just in case anyone is wondering.
Hope some of you come to watch.
GL
06-03-2017
, 07:33 AM
No idea, I guess I'm a nit 
5 mins
06-09-2017
, 07:53 AM
Last edited by Clanty; 06-09-2017 at 08:02 AM.
06-09-2017
, 07:56 PM
To any guys out there who play both HU and 6max: do you think it's +EV to learn some (some being defined as being able to play 50/100HUz without losing more than a couple bb/100, or, potentially being BE/+EV) HU in order to help your 6max game? I presume that combinatoric concepts are massively more emphasised in HU due to ranges being far wider. Gaining a deeper understanding of these things would help me to no end.
Any feedback is appreciated
Any feedback is appreciated
06-10-2017
, 05:46 AM
Hey Clanty,
Just posted some 3bet pot hands in my pgc and was hoping you could review them if you have time.
My PGC is a banter rich environment so maybe Meale will drop in as well
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...01/index2.html
Just posted some 3bet pot hands in my pgc and was hoping you could review them if you have time.
My PGC is a banter rich environment so maybe Meale will drop in as well
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...01/index2.html
06-10-2017
, 06:01 AM
Quote:
To any guys out there who play both HU and 6max: do you think it's +EV to learn some (some being defined as being able to play 50/100HUz without losing more than a couple bb/100, or, potentially being BE/+EV) HU in order to help your 6max game? I presume that combinatoric concepts are massively more emphasised in HU due to ranges being far wider. Gaining a deeper understanding of these things would help me to no end.
Any feedback is appreciated
Any feedback is appreciated
06-10-2017
, 06:34 AM
I'm not so sure. NLHE is all about stack depth, equity, ranges + combos, and whether or not to be balanced or unbalanced in any given spot. Anything that promotes a richer understand of those concepts is going to improve you as a player (Tendler makes this very point in TMOP2).
I think the key is playing at a level where you see it 100% for what it is...training. If you do it, you do it for purposes of training, not winning.
I do a similar thing already (similar as in mindset, not similar as in game type).
I play 5nlz in the gym on my phone. Because it is 100% readless/HUD less/Note less every single hand, it forces me to play a strictly balanced optimal strat and this has helped my game tremendously.
There are enough nittag regs at 5nlz to give it some credibility as a training environment plus if I ever am unsure on my reads, I'll just call it off because wtf its only 5nl. I am easily mentally strong enough to separate a training mindset from max EV mindset.
If you do it...progress reports plse.
I think the key is playing at a level where you see it 100% for what it is...training. If you do it, you do it for purposes of training, not winning.
I do a similar thing already (similar as in mindset, not similar as in game type).
I play 5nlz in the gym on my phone. Because it is 100% readless/HUD less/Note less every single hand, it forces me to play a strictly balanced optimal strat and this has helped my game tremendously.
There are enough nittag regs at 5nlz to give it some credibility as a training environment plus if I ever am unsure on my reads, I'll just call it off because wtf its only 5nl. I am easily mentally strong enough to separate a training mindset from max EV mindset.
If you do it...progress reports plse.
06-11-2017
, 07:06 AM
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Tricky question, but from the streams and HHs I've seen from you, I wouldn't do it. Your understanding of the game is already really good imo, and while there prob are some small things to learn from HU about playing the wider ranges, I don't think it would be worth your time. It's debatable how much of HU play is applicable bringing back to your 6max game, as you won't be playing the range of hands over 60% or whatever number you'll open at BTN/SB either way. I'd just keep playing 100% 6m/using the time in the lab instead.
how much do you think the extended knowledge of blockers/combinatorics would help me in 6max?
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I'm not so sure. NLHE is all about stack depth, equity, ranges + combos, and whether or not to be balanced or unbalanced in any given spot. Anything that promotes a richer understand of those concepts is going to improve you as a player (Tendler makes this very point in TMOP2).
I think the key is playing at a level where you see it 100% for what it is...training. If you do it, you do it for purposes of training, not winning.
I do a similar thing already (similar as in mindset, not similar as in game type).
I play 5nlz in the gym on my phone. Because it is 100% readless/HUD less/Note less every single hand, it forces me to play a strictly balanced optimal strat and this has helped my game tremendously.
There are enough nittag regs at 5nlz to give it some credibility as a training environment plus if I ever am unsure on my reads, I'll just call it off because wtf its only 5nl. I am easily mentally strong enough to separate a training mindset from max EV mindset.
If you do it...progress reports plse.
I think the key is playing at a level where you see it 100% for what it is...training. If you do it, you do it for purposes of training, not winning.
I do a similar thing already (similar as in mindset, not similar as in game type).
I play 5nlz in the gym on my phone. Because it is 100% readless/HUD less/Note less every single hand, it forces me to play a strictly balanced optimal strat and this has helped my game tremendously.
There are enough nittag regs at 5nlz to give it some credibility as a training environment plus if I ever am unsure on my reads, I'll just call it off because wtf its only 5nl. I am easily mentally strong enough to separate a training mindset from max EV mindset.
If you do it...progress reports plse.
06-11-2017
, 02:37 PM
Quote:
To any guys out there who play both HU and 6max: do you think it's +EV to learn some (some being defined as being able to play 50/100HUz without losing more than a couple bb/100, or, potentially being BE/+EV) HU in order to help your 6max game? I presume that combinatoric concepts are massively more emphasised in HU due to ranges being far wider. Gaining a deeper understanding of these things would help me to no end.
Any feedback is appreciated
Any feedback is appreciated
If I were to learn HU, I'd go the old school route and lobby hunt euro sites. I learned a lot of my HU skills eventually by playing vs "regfish" guys. They played okayish, but still had tilt issues and leaks etc.
This is different from getting a new reg every hand. I was able to play one opponent for a long time, gather up hud stats and later review the match.
As euro sites grinder, being able to table start is an absolute must. This way you can also win lot of moneys vs recs when they join your tables. Even the regfish guys as well.
What I learned most from HU, is a mindset and an approach towards the game. You have to beat your opponent. After you learn to beat an opponent, then you can generalize the strategies that allowed you to beat him.
It's great fun as well, although I was losing at HU for a looooong time
Then one day I played vs regfish guy, and won 15 BI's at 200nl. Stuff like that can happen!!
I think regs who don't table start are weak ****s. You have to be up a lot for the month, and (or) be wealthy in order to handle the swings though.
There's a big difference in the approach, that the HU/table start-guys take, vs the guys who just lobby hunt.
HU skills are also cumulative. So you may have 200 hours of HU experience, and then reg joins you with 10 hours of HU experience
And one last point. I didn't start defending BTN's super wide vs 3-bets as result of playing HU. It's more like, once I figured out something in 6-max, I realized how well it works in HU as well, when ranges are wider.
HU may even make your 6-max game worse, simply because 6-max ranges are so much tighter.
In a nutshell, I'm not afraid to take on any opponent (if it looks decent for my bottom line).
06-14-2017
, 08:38 AM
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Hmm, don't know how to answer that but as said I think your 6max game is good enough that you won't get too much out of playing vs (mostly) random buttonclickers at NL50 HU zoom games. You'll prob learn more from watching the HU vids at RIO from the elite guys tbf, so that might be worth checking into. Plus, and I know you said losing/winning doesn't matter much, but paying 14bb+/100 in rake playing a high variance game against some randoms I wouldn't bother with. Not sure how much time/hands you thought about putting into this, but I think you have to play a good chunk for it to be worthwhile, ie. you won't learn anything new/applicable to 6m in most spots and against the majority of the guys.
Hope that answers to some of your thoughts.
Hope that answers to some of your thoughts.
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I think you don't need to learn HU as a 6-max zoom grinder.
If I were to learn HU, I'd go the old school route and lobby hunt euro sites. I learned a lot of my HU skills eventually by playing vs "regfish" guys. They played okayish, but still had tilt issues and leaks etc.
This is different from getting a new reg every hand. I was able to play one opponent for a long time, gather up hud stats and later review the match.
As euro sites grinder, being able to table start is an absolute must. This way you can also win lot of moneys vs recs when they join your tables. Even the regfish guys as well.
What I learned most from HU, is a mindset and an approach towards the game. You have to beat your opponent. After you learn to beat an opponent, then you can generalize the strategies that allowed you to beat him.
It's great fun as well, although I was losing at HU for a looooong time
Then one day I played vs regfish guy, and won 15 BI's at 200nl. Stuff like that can happen!!
I think regs who don't table start are weak ****s. You have to be up a lot for the month, and (or) be wealthy in order to handle the swings though.
There's a big difference in the approach, that the HU/table start-guys take, vs the guys who just lobby hunt.
HU skills are also cumulative. So you may have 200 hours of HU experience, and then reg joins you with 10 hours of HU experience
And one last point. I didn't start defending BTN's super wide vs 3-bets as result of playing HU. It's more like, once I figured out something in 6-max, I realized how well it works in HU as well, when ranges are wider.
HU may even make your 6-max game worse, simply because 6-max ranges are so much tighter.
In a nutshell, I'm not afraid to take on any opponent (if it looks decent for my bottom line).
If I were to learn HU, I'd go the old school route and lobby hunt euro sites. I learned a lot of my HU skills eventually by playing vs "regfish" guys. They played okayish, but still had tilt issues and leaks etc.
This is different from getting a new reg every hand. I was able to play one opponent for a long time, gather up hud stats and later review the match.
As euro sites grinder, being able to table start is an absolute must. This way you can also win lot of moneys vs recs when they join your tables. Even the regfish guys as well.
What I learned most from HU, is a mindset and an approach towards the game. You have to beat your opponent. After you learn to beat an opponent, then you can generalize the strategies that allowed you to beat him.
It's great fun as well, although I was losing at HU for a looooong time
Then one day I played vs regfish guy, and won 15 BI's at 200nl. Stuff like that can happen!!
I think regs who don't table start are weak ****s. You have to be up a lot for the month, and (or) be wealthy in order to handle the swings though.
There's a big difference in the approach, that the HU/table start-guys take, vs the guys who just lobby hunt.
HU skills are also cumulative. So you may have 200 hours of HU experience, and then reg joins you with 10 hours of HU experience
And one last point. I didn't start defending BTN's super wide vs 3-bets as result of playing HU. It's more like, once I figured out something in 6-max, I realized how well it works in HU as well, when ranges are wider.
HU may even make your 6-max game worse, simply because 6-max ranges are so much tighter.
In a nutshell, I'm not afraid to take on any opponent (if it looks decent for my bottom line).
. I've decided to listen to you guys and not play HU, although it was really fun playing it, and I imagine that I would have made it my main game if I played back when it wasn't a dying game. Instead I have chosen to play some 100z when I'm tired/experimenting with new stuff, and that (conceptually) mirrors what I wanted from HU fairly well.Hehe np man
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Hey, I haven't really posted any updates here in awhile. I've been really busy with studying (as per usual) and I don't plan to start grinding good volume until I'm doing well at 500z. I'm currently doing well at 200, but it's early days.
I've also been coaching a bit and it's going really well. I have a great passion to impart knowledge/help ppl, so coaching Poker really fits the bill
. All the "students" (I really hate that term when used in Poker) are happy and telling me how they view Poker in a different light now. Hoping to continue strong on that front, too!I will post an update here when I (actually) have somewhat of a sample - so maybe next year or something :P
Glgl
