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08-29-2011 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sajeffe
Thanks!

I just remembered, I actually didn't use real money for the 11c STs. I used VIP points. So, the win I got was all profit for 48c.
My bad -- it wasn't 48c, it was 42c.
I just played 6 more of the 11c SHST using VIP points. Yikes. Those are just gambling sngs. Lost five of them and won 42c in the sixth. So, basically I lost money. Cuz the VIP points are money equivalents when used for tourneys. (11 VIP points to enter 11c sng.) Going to quit playing these. Would rather use my point for something that requires skill.

And, on that subject, I did increase my O8 BR. Sat at a few FR games -- PL2/5, PL 5/10, and NL 5/10. I always play short stacked and only played about 2 orbits. Lost my $1.50BI in the 2/5. Lost about a buck at the PL 5/10. Nearly tripled my BI at the NL 5/10 though it wasn't anything to be proud of -- called all in with two pair on the flop and rivered the boat. There was a second caller. They were both going for the low and the original shove had the nut flush draw that missed. Ended up with no low on board so I scooped three way all in. Could have easily lost it all though.

Total roll right now is $34.78 but the NLHE part of that is only 84 cents.
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08-29-2011 , 11:00 PM
out in 20th in the 6cent rebuy for .41 lol woo hoo. But it was nice to run fairly good in a merge tourney for once
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08-29-2011 , 11:11 PM
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out in 20th in the 6cent rebuy for .41 lol woo hoo. But it was nice to run fairly good in a merge tourney for once
All right! WTG. Nice job!
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08-29-2011 , 11:20 PM
Ok, I'm confusing myself trying to keep my BRs separate for NLHE and O8. Plus, I sometimes play the PLO sngs.

Played 2 NLHE DoN SnGs at $1.08 each. Won one for $2.00 = net loss of 16 cents.

Also played 2 PLO DoN SnGs at the same time at $1.08 each. Won both for $2.00 each = net gain of $1.84.

Total gain for that 4 tables = +$1.68.

BR now $36.46.

I like the DoNs better because they are played the opposite of the 11c SHST. TAG instead of LAG. They seem to require more skill, patience, and some strategy as opposed to the 11c all in with 3/5 os and somebody calls with 5/8 os. (I was the caller!) LOL.
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08-29-2011 , 11:24 PM
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Anyone else playing this brutal .06 rebuy right now? lol

KK no good sir. JJ no good either sir.
How the hell am I up so far???
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out in 20th in the 6cent rebuy for .41 lol woo hoo. But it was nice to run fairly good in a merge tourney for once
Might try this one tomorrow. How many people played in this? 1000s??
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08-29-2011 , 11:33 PM
updates

5 step 2s
3 step 3s

gonna try to knock out the rest of the step 2s tonight
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08-29-2011 , 11:36 PM
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There's usually about 500 -- $3 for 3rd, $6 for 2nd, and $10 for first usually --
....might not be fun with your roll, unless you just wanna do it for fun of course.
Well, I find NLHE to be a real challenge, so that's why I would play. I don't like spending much on NLHE -- except the $1.08 DoN's. So the 6c rebuy is about my speed. What I'm really trying to say is that I pretty much suck at it.
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08-29-2011 , 11:39 PM
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updates

5 step 2s
3 step 3s

gonna try to knock out the rest of the step 2s tonight
Wow. You guys are all really good at these.
Gogogogogogogo.
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08-29-2011 , 11:47 PM
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Wow. You guys are all really good at these.
Gogogogogogogo.
They are actually pretty easy any one who would like tips I am more then willing to share.
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08-29-2011 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ChanceH
ok i see the 6c is not for another 8 hours. i did see the 50c mtt coming up - might try that - i know i only have $3.33 but we have to step up a little at some point. anyone think i shouldn't?? i mean i want to get to where i don't play a mtt without it costing me less than 10% - so maybe i shouldn't?? sigh - br management has always been bad for me (maybe that's why i always do ok then end up losing everything over and over - hard to admit but happens to me wayyy too much!)
For you guys who play NLHE regularly, how hard would it be to do the FunSteps to get your BR up to $5.00 or $6.00 so you can skip the 11cent SHSTs? I mean, for me, it would prolly take forever, but most of you guys seem pretty good at these. Do you think it would take too much time? I just think BRM is key and if you move up too quickly and don't cash, it might tilt you some and make it harder to win (speaking from experience). GL.
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08-29-2011 , 11:54 PM
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They are actually pretty easy any one who would like tips I am more then willing to share.
You won 9 out of 10 step ones to get into step two. That's pretty awesome. Did you do it thru patience or aggression? Patience didn't work for me. When I got into all in or fold mentality, I won. But I hate playing that way.
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08-30-2011 , 12:12 AM
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You won 9 out of 10 step ones to get into step two. That's pretty awesome. Did you do it thru patience or aggression? Patience didn't work for me. When I got into all in or fold mentality, I won. But I hate playing that way.
It isn't fun but step ones I use patience and trap, people are more then willing to double you up in you wait.

When you move up the steps take up your agro as people are a lot tighter then in step one especially early. It will eventually turn into all in or fold late but it is always nice to have extra chips when it comes that time.
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08-30-2011 , 01:07 AM
most likely end of day

2 step 2s
2 step 3s

and br: 1.00
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08-30-2011 , 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by sajeffe
For you guys who play NLHE regularly, how hard would it be to do the FunSteps to get your BR up to $5.00 or $6.00 so you can skip the 11cent SHSTs? I mean, for me, it would prolly take forever, but most of you guys seem pretty good at these. Do you think it would take too much time? I just think BRM is key and if you move up too quickly and don't cash, it might tilt you some and make it harder to win (speaking from experience). GL.
I use to win these win u had to take first from step 1-3 they are much easier now. DO NOT PLAY THE BUMBLEBEES ever unless you like paying for a freeroll chance. Why do u play another sng when u cash?
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08-30-2011 , 02:01 AM
3 fun step 3s

br 1.44

gl everyone
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08-30-2011 , 02:27 AM
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I use to win these win u had to take first from step 1-3 they are much easier now. DO NOT PLAY THE BUMBLEBEES ever unless you like paying for a freeroll chance. Why do u play another sng when u cash?
I don't understand the question.

Yeah, Chance was asking about playing things other than the bumblebee, so I was suggesting to just keep doing the funsteps instead of that awful 11c bumblebee.

I just did four Step 1. Thanks for your help. I was playing patiently throughout but then it got to the point of all in or fold and my hands failed at three out of four of the tables. TKs vs 78o, JJ vs AA, and QJs vs ATo.

I think my strategy going forward with step 1 will be all in with 55 or better and AKo and any suited ace. For step two, I'll tighten up and play more patiently.
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08-30-2011 , 02:43 AM
I play the limit .02/.04... Yeah don't be crazy tight on step one I will call an all in with A10os all day in step one let alone a decent pair half the time they show up with 46os, let the blinds go up a lil tho
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08-30-2011 , 03:06 AM
sry

2 step 3's

br: 2:06

I won 2 step 3's today started the day with only step 2's
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08-30-2011 , 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by wontstop
It isn't fun but step ones I use patience and trap, people are more then willing to double you up in you wait.

When you move up the steps take up your agro as people are a lot tighter then in step one especially early. It will eventually turn into all in or fold late but it is always nice to have extra chips when it comes that time.

+1!!



I totally agree with you won! I usually take 75-90% of my step 1's. I can get in to more detail if you want - but you hit the nail on head - PATIENCE in step 1!! I mean i almost autofold 1st thru 5th hand playing ONLY AA KK QQ or AK - not even JJ or def not worse - no suited AJ's etc...none of that - as you rarely are a big favorite with the all in push fests that happen the first several hands. Quite often you are like "fkkkk i would have taken out 4 of them had i called" but don't be results oriented and don't even worry - as you can see those donks who usually end up with 4000 the first hand with some crazy shht rarely even make the money!?? i mean they don't slow down - they then start doubling up one then another then another player - and one of those is going to be YOU unless you get unlucky! Then you can see the few that are basically sitting out - and you have some chips - and soon the idiot is gone - his 4grand stack that he could have folded to money is again spread out to a few of you that are left - then you notice the 2 or 3 that are on auto fold - you can just steal at will as blinds rise and it's worth it! don't raise too much (min raise works against these guys) - and if they play back - just fold and get their blind the next 5 orbits till they raise again with 2 big blinds - you call off (and usually have help) and take the guy out.

PATIENCE though is key - if you get unlucky just because you had AJ and the best hand (barely against the allinners) the first hand - then you're gone and that's that - just fold it man - they will give you those chips a few minutes later - when you get to call their maniac all in - in a heads up pot where you ARE a good favorite!

Then step two - I totally agree with wonstop here - ramp up your aggression (once you see that there are isn't an all in fest in step 2 also - usually there isn't). oh by the way - i instantly put a pokerchip (the red pokerchip tag) on the ALLIN with any two donks - thats my worst player note - then the fish is second for me - its for that guy who CALLS all in with K10 or KJ or A7 and such - and there are a LOT of them. So then you see at your step two table if there are any of the allin donkeys - if so - then just sit back - they will oblige again. Usually its' not too much in step two as much as step one though - and you can just play a good TAG style and do fine.

Step 3 - i've had some amazing step 3 tables that i could not believe were freeroll players - not always but sometimes you find them - i mean the kind of play i used to find in $20 buy in sngs on stars. - but not usually that good - here a good TAG style will do fine also - but remember - you have to WIN to get the money - so aggression is the key - get all the chips!

I'm liking this challenge.

I'm VERY glad you all have joined!! And thanks for GREAT advise and comments on styles - games - br management - all of that! I mean there is some really good stuff here!!!
I'd really like to see a few (or MORE) really make some money in this!! over a grand and on up!! would be awesome!! but even if we all made 500 or so from nothing would be very cool - i know though - someone will go on a tear and end up with 2 or 3 grand from NOTHING!!

Good luck!!!!

I only had a little while this morning to play - so my DAY 6 (was it?? have to check above posts) - was pretty insignifacant. I ended day with:

7 step 2 tix
4 step 3 tix

and $3.43


Good luck to you all tonight and tomorrow - and see you tomorrow!!
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08-30-2011 , 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by wontstop
It isn't fun but step ones I use patience and trap, people are more then willing to double you up in you wait.

When you move up the steps take up your agro as people are a lot tighter then in step one especially early. It will eventually turn into all in or fold late but it is always nice to have extra chips when it comes that time.
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Nice job! BR going in the right direction.

Yes, I agree totally with money not being safe on any site for USA players. If I can grind mine up to $120, I'll withdraw $100 (minus the $15 fee or whatever). But I won't hold my breath.

I just did 10 step-ones. Only got 4 step two tickets. There was one person sitting out at many of my tables. Since it doesn't tell you they're sitting out, some people don't realize it. Always good to be sitting to their direct right. :-)

Btw, the strategy I lost with was the patience strategy. The 4 tickets I won were all from getting it all in good early and having it hold, then nitting up until it was over.

So, Day 1 for me: 40% ITM at FunStep1. :-) I'll take it.
great day 1 - good luck tomorrow!!
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08-30-2011 , 03:23 AM
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Played my FunStep2 tables (x4).

#1 lost with 88 vs AA. Ooops.

#2 lost with JJ vs AT. Meh.

#3 lost with AK vs A9. Grrrrr.

#4 won! So I'm on to Step 3 just once. Will begin again all over with step one late tonight x10 when I'm eligible again.

Winnings so far: 48c and one step3 ticket.

Good luck, all.
good luck tomorrow!
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08-30-2011 , 03:28 AM
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sry

2 step 3's

br: 2:06

I won 2 step 3's today started the day with only step 2's
good luck wonstop! and i really like the advise you are giving here! i've read all your posts - very god stuff! thanks so much for contributing - again i'm really glad i started this thread - everyone seems to have some good stuff to bring to the table - and i for one am learning!

again - good luck - hope to see that you've done really well when i log on tomorrow!
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08-30-2011 , 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by sajeffe
I don't understand the question.

Yeah, Chance was asking about playing things other than the bumblebee, so I was suggesting to just keep doing the funsteps instead of that awful 11c bumblebee.

I just did four Step 1. Thanks for your help. I was playing patiently throughout but then it got to the point of all in or fold and my hands failed at three out of four of the tables. TKs vs 78o, JJ vs AA, and QJs vs ATo.

I think my strategy going forward with step 1 will be all in with 55 or better and AKo and any suited ace. For step two, I'll tighten up and play more patiently.
hmmmm - i've found that trying NOT to get all in (at least the first 5 hands or so) is a better way?? i mean if you shuv 55 - 66 - 77 - 88 - 99 even 1010 or JJ - and especially AK - you are still usually getting called in 3 to 5 spots and that make you a dog! or at very least a VERY slight favorite. take a look at my above post about step one - let me know what you think. i mean I BY NO means am saying "i know what to do and that's that" I am open to try new things - but i'm just saying i usually always win step 1. when i don't its when i get very unlucky. i'm winning average 8 out of 10 of these step ones. now step two - a bit different - and then step 3 a bit different.

But just take a read - let me know what you think - you might want to give it a try - or not - all good!

In any case - if you keep doing the push 55+ or AKs and it works for you - get back with us and let us know! I'm all for it if it works!!!!!

And tyvm for the advise about building some funstep money - those 11c are SICK... i think they are programed to have 60%<40% every time!! lol

anyway - GOOD LUCK SAJEFFE!! i hope to log on tomorrow and see you had a good night!!!!

glglgl
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08-30-2011 , 03:36 AM
ok - read a ton of the posts that happened while i was offline today - again thanks for everyone participating and giving great strat advise!!

it's a bit after midnight here in los angeles - and i think i'm off for the night!!

good night and good luck!!!
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08-30-2011 , 05:20 AM
Thanks for writing all of that out. Since I just started, and I haven't really played much NLHE in the past year, I'll have to see what works for me. I do understand what you guys are saying though.

I played a total of 6 step ones tonight and only got one step 2 ticket. I'll play the other 4 later. It's 4AM here. Here's what I did today:


1 out of 6 step one's (really bad!). Results = 1 step2 tix

Played the 11c "bumblebee" SHST using my VIP points, six times and finished 1st in one and lost the others. Result = +$0.42.
Played 3 NLHE $1.08 DoN SnG and won 2 of them. Result = +$0.76.
Played 2 PLO $1.08 DoN SnG and won both of them. Result = +$1.84.

Total increase in BR for the day is $3.02. And I'm calling this the end of day 2.

My BR is now $37.38 but I started with around $24 and won some in cash PLO8 games.

Thanks and good luck!
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