This. +1Milly

I gotta get better about the worrying about the future part, but, day in and day out, this is the mantra to live by. Keep learning, keep applying, keep ahead of the competition. Even been stuck in the U S of A, I'm still able to sweat more games than ever before, review more HH's, watch more livestreams, and truly just STUDY.

Marty is consumed by poker, but healthily consumed. No ego involved, outside of confidence. He studies the game, he lives the life. If you've met him, you can attest to his good guy nature.

In the end, poker is a lot like the old "Be all you can be" Army ad... You only limit yourself, and variance is a bitch, but excuses and negativity are just the yellow brick road to destruction and mayhem. Lipo/Marty ooooze positivity. And that's good for the game.

Grind on. Run good.

won a couple more tournaments and a triple crown today.

month so far:



pretty encouraging graph to say the least. hopefully the trend continues

Meh whats the big deal right?

Gratz with triple crown and general results!
GL getting the last of the MU cleared.

sick volume and sick results, gj

Well, this would explain how you own my soul every time we play a hand...huge congrats bro, sick run you're on. Hope it continues. Maybe let me have a hand or two in the meantime? <3

gratz m, decent results^^ keep it up!

down below 90k now

also #1 on the yearly TLB. had a 4th in the big162 today. really tough/fun FT

i dont think he reads these forums, but mypokerf played really awesome/unique at the final table and it put me in tough spots. was one of the harder 5-6 handed i have played so far this year, and the end-game played a lot different than usual. i was happy with my play, but im excited to review this HH, especially the FT after sunday to get a better look at some of the stuff that was going on.

headed for some wine/pizza tonight and early bed time. early start to the grind tomorrow. feeling really great about tomorrow and beyond.

Your motivation is really inspiring.
Can't wait to see you get out of this makeup and start shipping yourself the big bucks.

what a beast, lots of respect for ur work ethics + grind

gl on clearing the last 'bit' of mu

hungover and read the whole thread, seem like a really decent dude, gl.

meh u passed me

So maybe i'm reading too much into it, but it bugs me to read this from you since I am a person who actually quit poker. Do you think a horse is never allowed to quit and move onto other things in life? Don't you think there are other circumstances in peoples lives (especially with respects to mental health which we've seen in the past with mtt'ers committing suicide) that might be a factor?

I agree it is scummy if someone quits and doesn't really quit, plays on their own or gets backed by someone else, but I don't really get you attacking people who legitimately quit poker while in makeup (maybe you think its impossible for people to quit or something?), though maybe i'm reading too much into it. Just hurts a bit to read that since we played the same games together/have the same general circle of people and I'm thinking that response this is a reflection on how my name is thrown around in discussions about stuff like that, when in reality I'm doing the best I can every day to be happy and not end up killing myself, which is basically how playing mtt's and the lifestyle made me feel near the end. I'm just not as strong of a person as you or as rat sauce or anyone else who can stay in makeup for inf and be ok mentally/as good at avoiding abusing substances, I know there are tons of scumbags in this community who weasel out of makeup one way or another but I also know there should be opportunities for people legitimately to quit.

Anyways though congrats on shipping that MTT today!

wtg buddy

Pretty sure those comments were referring to people that have malicious intentions of getting out of a makeup hole without working their way out. Quitting poker to follow other pursuits or avoid mental problems clearly does not fall into that category.

[ ] OP is nr 1 in tlb yearly

idk still an easy out that can be abused

stanski,

I assumed the quotes around quitting made it obv he's talking about people who threaten backers or leverage quitting for a buyout.

How often do people actually quit forever though?

Crushing, gratz on the t-rex!

was more referring to people not actually quitting. playing low stakes on their own again later, selling action to others, etc

but since you brought it up........


agreed..hopefully the below post comes off in the right way

below is the only way i feel like it'd be ok to leave a staking deal in makeup, and even in the below situation i'd still feel pretty bad about it

let's say i'm deep in makeup and am tired of poker, thinking about quitting, want to pursue something else, etc, etc etc. what i think is proper is this:

i'd give my backer a heads-up, at least 6 months to a year ahead of time to let them know my intentions moving forward. during that next 6 month to 1 year period, i would literally be their slave. i'd grind value games, or do whatever they told me. i'd devise some sort of exit strategy that wouldnt entirely **** their equity in the situation. i would of course be done for poker forever in this situation (unless i wanted to grind the MU of course). i'd also try to stop doing stuff that hurts their equity in this time (substance abuse was mentioned). i feel like backers are entitled to at least something like this. when you work a job and have been there for a while, if you plan to quit or transfer, you're expected to give some kind of leave notice. i dont see it any different from poker. sure you can just go and work a new job, but you burn bridges and hurt your credibility....same in poker.


do you guys really think it's ok for me to continue getting 10k reloads 200k in, then walk away because i'm feeling down? you have to be kidding me. i know the deal i signed up for, i know what i was getting myself into. i'm fine with people taking time, getting a break, resetting, doing whatever it is they need to do.

but when it comes down to it, if the horse doesnt return to the makeup: theyre a quitter, and should be branded as such in this community (which for me and others, it certainly has a negative stigma).

IMO you cant quit deep in makeup "legitimately". i'm a firm believer in property rights, and staking contracts are structured in a way that should protect the backer who is assuming all of the risk. i havent backed anyone in 3 years now, but this is how i have always felt. even as a horse 220k in makeup.


i can understand the importance of mental health, but to think poker is the cause of all our problems, and that not playing will make it better, seems crazy to me. i'm sorry poker made you feel that way. and i hope this time away from poker will bring some peace and tranquility back into your life, and you can have a clear head again. nobody deserves that feeling of impending doom and suicidal thoughts from anything. do your best to be happy man, that is what life is all about.

Can i get an AMEN!

Well in my specific case I think I did a fairly good job of this, but perhaps could have done it better. I put my life on hold multiple times to try and grind out makeup, and my backer was aware that I was thinking of quitting poker since I was in makeup for over 2 years, and I think i communicated my wanting to quit fairly often over the last 6 months-one year especially (which is actually when the majority of my makeup was accumulated). I did cut out game types, cut out games I wasn't profitable in, cut out games that were specifically outlined in our original agreement, so I think i did an ok job here but obviously could have done it better. The problem is, I don't think I was actually profitable at anything anymore, I literally didn't make money at any game type I tried playing (various sng formats, mtts, etc.), even at one point trying to grind $30 hu hypers and losing money at that. i just outright suck and am fairly convinced I just ran way above expectation for my lifetime, or ****ed my game up so badly by being deep in makeup that I no longer can even be profitable at $30 mtt's or $15 180's.

I also offered other alternatives for things in the future, and obviously one day I hope to be able to grind it off again when I do have a clearer head and can not be a mental wreck drinking myself to death after every session. I think its unrealistic that I don't play poker for the next 60-70 years of life, and have hopefully made it clear in my situation that I do plan to take care of it at some point in the future most likely.

I'm glad to see you clarify your thoughts as it was just pointed out to me by another poster that that comment might have been directed at me, and i agree with pretty much everything you wrote the second time. Thanks a lot for the response :-). I agree poker did not cause me my problems in life, I caused them myself by having a poor mental game and being unable to create a life balance for myself when my work involved working independently on a computer 70 hours a week.

in context, this is the greatest post you've ever made.

Amen for sure. Great post 100% agree

as a former backer I can deff say lipos post is quite accurate for most things but certain parts are insanely lol logic. You say the backer assumes all the risk yet you believe the horse can never quit/leave MU, not much risk to be had then right. I think as a backer you are going into a stake knowing there is risk of you losing alot of money as well as making alot and that making your horses your slaves is essentially what you want to do and that just doesnt seem right.