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This thread makes me feel like a bum(in a weird motivational way, I need to step my game up) Not sure if it has been asked but whats your opinion on caffeine? With such little sleep do you get loads of it or do you avoid it so you can get to sleep quicker/get more quality sleep? I only ask because I am trying to quit because I want a balanced state of mind at all times and feel like it is not really attainable with caffeine for obvious reasons.

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08-24-2014 , 04:12 AM

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KP24

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Originally Posted by MrSpew

Well done kp, hope to see you move up soon

Thanks mate. Much appreciated.

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Originally Posted by IPlayNLHE

I try to avoid caffeine at all costs tbh. Don't drink coffee (or tea) anymore for that reason. For the reason you state - to fall to sleep quicker and get better quality sleep.

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08-24-2014 , 04:26 AM

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YouBetIcall

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KP24, you don't drink tea anymore? could you tell us a bit more about that, why you don't drink it? I can understand that you fall to sleep quicker but tea looks so healthy to me...?

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08-24-2014 , 07:12 AM

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qwertz1

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I also thought tea is awesome... Please don't tell me its not

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08-24-2014 , 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by YouBetIcall

KP24, you don't drink tea anymore? could you tell us a bit more about that, why you don't drink it? I can understand that you fall to sleep quicker but tea looks so healthy to me...?

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Originally Posted by qwertz1

I also thought tea is awesome... Please don't tell me its not

Whoops!! I am not 100% sure of this... In UK people drink loads of a type of tea which I think has zero health benefits and has caffeine in it. It is that which I don't drink. I think there are loads of different types of tea that do/might have health benefits!

So if its got caffeine in it I keep away. Healthy tea I am ignorant about!

I only drink two things. Water for 6 days of the week and beer on the other! For the foreseeable future (after vacation) it is gonna be water 100%.

Sorry if I confused you!!

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08-24-2014 , 08:44 AM

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ChickenDave

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Originally Posted by YouBetIcall

What, not sure I understand, why do you think x/r with a set is bad?

x/c is standard with A6s

X/c range is v.weak and easy to play against otherwise. -It's also a flop he'll be c-betting with his entire range most of which misses hence no real value in x/ring when we are happy to let him barrel.

x/c is fine there

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08-24-2014 , 10:14 AM

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Anyone who cbets their entire range on that flop is horrifically bad. I think it would also be pretty bad to assume that anyone would do that. Also, x/r with your sets there doesn't necessarily lead to having a weak x/c range when you measure the strength of it relative to BTN's range.

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08-24-2014 , 12:34 PM

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....... what even , in a heads-up pot his c-bet frequency on Q52hh will be very high- If your c/c range is predominantly draws + floats + 5x + 66+ you are absurdly easy to play against even with a BTN opening range, don't see how this is even questionable

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08-24-2014 , 01:20 PM

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That's not a xc range lol, are you assuming the blind x/r Qx?

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08-24-2014 , 01:24 PM

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That's not a xc range lol, are you assuming the blind x/r Qx?

I said predominantly, obviously we would not x/r Qx FFS. There are many combos of Qx that the blind will be 3-betting PF

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08-24-2014 , 01:28 PM

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TheDefiniteArticle

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AQ... and what else? KQ can go either way, Q2s is a call.

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08-24-2014 , 01:33 PM

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Read Big_Micks posts on BTN min opens and 3-betting ranges , also do some basic combos work and realise we're weighted heavily away from Qx in our c/c range

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08-24-2014 , 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KP24

Black tea has more caffeine and less health benefits.
Green tea is better, but still has small amounts of caffeine, or "caffeine".
White tea has small amount of caffeine, and is said to have health benefits. Try that out.

Good reminder for me to quit caffeine for few days. Feel like my decision making is more rushed when i drink coffee. And yes, falling asleep is harder.

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08-24-2014 , 01:47 PM

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Read Big_Micks posts on BTN min opens and 3-betting ranges , also do some basic combos work and realise we're weighted heavily away from Qx in our c/c range

SB v BTN is very different from BB v BTN. And also, it doesn't matter how much Qx we actually have in our range so long as enough of our range is able to call down to prevent us from being exploited. We want some Qx in our range so villain can't just use ridic bet sizes to have a really wide betting range, shifting EV away from us.

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08-24-2014 , 01:55 PM

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See this is why people call you ******ed, I literally said about. 5 posts ago that you need to strengthen your c/c range by keeping sets TP etc in it to avoid being exploited/ easy to play against and you respond saying the exact same thing but managing to use flawed logic eg " how much Qx " and as if I'm going to really do much else except x/c with Qx ffs, don't discuss poker with me please

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08-24-2014 , 02:00 PM

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You don't need sets in your x/c range I don't think, I could be wrong but tbh I'm more than happy not to discuss poker with someone who would cbet that flop 100%.

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08-24-2014 , 02:06 PM

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You don't need sets in your x/c range I don't think, I could be wrong but tbh I'm more than happy not to discuss poker with someone who would cbet that flop 100%.

I didn't say I would you absolute cretin loool I would check some things with SDV- tell me when you make it past NL25 or make 5% of my poker lifetime , maybe one day you can cop a new treadmill with poker money, that is optimistic though

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08-24-2014 , 02:12 PM

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Sorry for the derail KP

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08-24-2014 , 02:42 PM

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08-24-2014 , 06:06 PM

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I may be crazy, but I don't drink coffee for the caffeine. I drink it because I like the taste. I do realize that it has caffeine in it, but I believe that if you stop any intake like 5 or 6 hours before sleep then your sleep will not be affected.

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08-25-2014 , 04:06 AM

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TDA - what sort of hands do you 3b bluff in BB v BTN min opens? I've been 3betting some of the bottom of our calling range but also can flop well (unlike stuff like K2o) like 45s, 75s... pretty hands that can flop well but play better when we have initiative, not sure if it's a good plan though.

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Why are you so angry all the time? Also you talk about strengthening our checking range, but on the other hand if we are c/r bluffing/semi-bluffing this flop some of the time, what value hands are you c/r'ing to balance that range if all Qx & all sets are a c/c?

I'm not argueing for or against, just asking a question.

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08-25-2014 , 05:03 AM

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It's not all, I would much rather c/r sets and 2p rather than Qx though , if V has like 80/30/20 cbet 2b 3b i.e is TDA terrible c/r would be good

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08-25-2014 , 07:24 AM

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You got me, 80/30/20 cbet frequencies is my secret. Yeah, that's the type of hand I tend to 3bet though I think 75s is strong enough to flat, so I tend to go more for slightly weaker hands (think 43s, 85s etc).

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08-26-2014 , 04:54 PM

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Read Big_Micks posts on BTN min opens and 3-betting ranges , also do some basic combos work and realise we're weighted heavily away from Qx in our c/c range

I don't know who Big Mick is, but I do know that my 3bet range and my flat range preflop here are both structured to allow for total board coverage on all flops. The frequency of Qx hands will be roughly the same relative to the entire range in both spots. In other words, I have plenty Qx in my range to x/c the flop. Combine that with the rest of my x/c range that will have either sdv or equity, together with coverage for most runouts, and solid fundamentals on the turn and river - I'd like to know what strategy you would use as the preflop raiser that can be deemed "absurdly easy".