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08-10-2014 , 05:39 AM
Been playing poker for 9 months or so now. Unfortunately volume has been somewhat lacking, which is why I'm making this thread to try and motivate myself.

I'm pretty ABC so don't expect too many sick 200BB bluffs or great river hero calls with king high.

Currently playing 20nl over on 888poker. Would ideally like to move to 30nl by the end of the month, and by a winning 50nl reg by the end of the year.

Volume wise, the goal is now 30k hands a month, which represents about a doubling of my average monthly volume to date. Not going to set winrate or monetary goals as it's a waste of time.

Lifetime graph at 20nl:



Lifetime graph overall:

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08-10-2014 , 05:41 AM
GL, looks solid
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08-10-2014 , 12:16 PM
Too bad he will never be 2NL reg on Pokerstars. Nice graphs btw, where did you steal the pictures?
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08-10-2014 , 12:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rig Astley
Too bad he will never be 2NL reg on Pokerstars. Nice graphs btw, where did you steal the pictures?
lol


GL Op
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08-11-2014 , 11:17 AM
Got my 1000 hands in today. Didn't really play great, and made an atrocious shove early on in the session which didn't help. Managed to battle back and did end up in profit although all in EV was negative. Played better towards the end, managed to pick off a few bluffs and get some decent value bets in.

Here was the crappy tilt shove hand I played. Was one of those 'god damn buttons always bet when it's checked to them, I'm gonna shove my nines down his flush draws throat'. Course he had a set, gg.

888 Poker - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 113.05 BB (VPIP: 26.91, PFR: 17.94, 3Bet Preflop: 12.09, Hands: 225)
BTN: 133.35 BB (VPIP: 27.16, PFR: 17.64, 3Bet Preflop: 8.60, Hands: 583)
SB: 130.85 BB (VPIP: 62.50, PFR: 37.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
Hero (BB): 107.55 BB
UTG: 107.15 BB (VPIP: 36.75, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 2.17, Hands: 241)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 9

fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.6 BB, SB raises to 7.2 BB, Hero calls 6.2 BB, BTN calls 4.6 BB

Flop: (21.6 BB, 3 players) 5 2 J
SB bets 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB, BTN raises to 24.8 BB, fold, Hero raises to 100.35 BB, BTN calls 75.55 BB

Turn: (229.3 BB, 2 players) 4

River: (229.3 BB, 2 players) 8

BTN shows 2 2 (Three of a Kind, Twos) (Pre 18%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows 9 9 (One Pair, Nines) (Pre 82%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
BTN wins 217.85 BB


Anyway, graph for today:

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08-11-2014 , 02:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rig Astley
Too bad he will never be 2NL reg on Pokerstars. Nice graphs btw, where did you steal the pictures?
Your in the wrong forum so gtfo

GL OP I have roughly same goals as you.
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08-12-2014 , 03:09 AM
Gl sir, will follow
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08-12-2014 , 08:15 AM
Played another 1000 today. Was completely card dead at the start of the session, resulting in slowly losing money to blinds and having to check/fold quite a few ****ty flops. Towards the end of the session I started getting dealt some decent hands, and managed to stack a big fish when I flopped a set and he flopped top pair, which is always nice.

Graph for today:



On a positive note, the bankroll is over $1000 for the first time ever! $1006 now.
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08-13-2014 , 08:30 AM
Played 1500 hands today. Feel I played better today although slightly down on the day (all in EV is positive though). Ran KK into AA which didn't help, and AK<AJ all in preflop against a fish sucked too.

Still, I've been running pretty good in the past couple of weeks, so I suppose I was due some suckouts and coolers. Graph for today:

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08-15-2014 , 04:56 AM
Only got in 500 hands today as have to get ready for a party. Good session though, flopped and turned a couple of boats against fish who had trips so managed to get some easy stacks.

Getting a bit concerned with my 3bet percentage though. It used to be up in the 7-8% range but it's dropped down to 5.5% overall now. Definitely need to work on opening up this part of my game. The problem is that there's a lot of people who don't fold that often to 3bets on 888, so you have to 3bet them for value only. But at the same time, it feels somehow 'wrong' to 3bet the likes of AJ, AQ, TT, 99 etc. It's a bit of a mental game leak since I tell myself it's +EV to call these hands, which of course it is...but it's probably more +EV to 3bet them against people with fold to 3bet of 20%.

Doesn't help that I hate playing raised pots OOP (who doesn't?), and so when I 3bet something like KQ from the small blind against a BTN opener, then miss the flop, I never really have a clue what to do.

I feel I've got a decent postflop edge at 20nl, but I probably don't have any preflop edge. Winrate is fine (7bb/100 over 26k hands) but I'll need to work on these issues if I ever want to be beating anything above the micros.

Graph for today. I only have to win a couple more buyins now and I can take a shot at 30nl.

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08-15-2014 , 07:34 AM
GL
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08-15-2014 , 10:13 AM
Quote:
it feels somehow 'wrong' to 3bet the likes of AJ, AQ, TT, 99 etc. It's a bit of a mental game leak since I tell myself it's +EV to call these hands, which of course it is...but it's probably more +EV to 3bet them against people with fold to 3bet of 20%.
I was just going over this with my coach as my 3b% has dropped as well. Don't just look at the 3b fold%. If they are opening wide like typical regs do in LP vs you in blinds then you are in fact 3b'ing for value as your ahead of a good chunk of their range. So you are happy that they don't fold often and continue with a range you are mostly ahead of.

That is for when you are oop obviously. When your in position I think those types of hands play better as a flat.

Edit: perfect example I had my last session http://weaktight.com/6908112

$25NL games are my normal games but they started me at 10NL beginning of stake to get a feel for my game

I will be shooting 25NL in the next week or two and plan to be at $50 games in the not so distant future
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08-15-2014 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by spacehippie
I was just going over this with my coach as my 3b% has dropped as well. Don't just look at the 3b fold%. If they are opening wide like typical regs do in LP vs you in blinds then you are in fact 3b'ing for value as your ahead of a good chunk of their range. So you are happy that they don't fold often and continue with a range you are mostly ahead of.

That is for when you are oop obviously. When your in position I think those types of hands play better as a flat.

Edit: perfect example I had my last session http://weaktight.com/6908112

$25NL games are my normal games but they started me at 10NL beginning of stake to get a feel for my game

I will be shooting 25NL in the next week or two and plan to be at $50 games in the not so distant future
My issue is when I miss the flop I almost always lose the hand. Like if I 3bet AJ and there's no ace or jack OTF, I'm pretty much ****ed. No one ever seems to fold to a cbet in a 3bet pot so I end up playing fit or fold a lot. And obviously, you miss the flop most of the time.
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08-21-2014 , 09:15 AM
Not updated in a few days. Unfortunately when I first move up stakes I always get scared about playing, want to quit early to 'book' wins, even if I've only played a couple of hundred hands etc. Leads to my volume sucking ass when I move up. Played a thousand hands today though and I think I'm over the 'scared period' now that I've seen the standard of play at the new limit - long story short, it's exactly the same as the old limit. Not to say I won't go on a downswing or have to drop back down at some point, but looking at the tables I feel confident saying I'll be +EV in the long run there.

Graph so far at 30nl. Currently 3 buyins up, lol sample though:



Would have been 5 buyins up if it wasn't for this massive fish. Nh buddy, nh:

888 Poker - $0.30 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 253 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
CO: 190.03 BB (VPIP: 25.26, PFR: 22.53, 3Bet Preflop: 11.65, Hands: 2,073)
Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 19.23, PFR: 14.96, 3Bet Preflop: 5.63, Hands: 240)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 21.62, PFR: 17.57, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 152)
UTG: 107.4 BB (VPIP: 21.88, PFR: 15.63, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

fold, MP calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 4.5 BB, fold, BB raises to 15 BB, MP raises to 25.5 BB, Hero raises to 100 BB, fold, MP calls 74.5 BB

Flop: (215.5 BB, 2 players) J T 6

Turn: (215.5 BB, 2 players) A

River: (215.5 BB, 2 players) J

MP shows Q J (Three of a Kind, Jacks) (Pre 16%, Flop 15%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Jacks) (Pre 84%, Flop 85%, Turn 91%)
MP wins 204.73 BB


However, I sucked out on a reg, so swings and roundabouts I suppose:

888 Poker - $0.30 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 106 BB (VPIP: 22.09, PFR: 18.60, 3Bet Preflop: 10.81, Hands: 91)
CO: 115.07 BB (VPIP: 24.74, PFR: 13.92, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 196)
Hero (BTN): 146.67 BB
SB: 56.17 BB (VPIP: 37.21, PFR: 16.28, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 45)
BB: 124.77 BB (VPIP: 25.39, PFR: 20.55, 3Bet Preflop: 7.01, Hands: 777)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, BB raises to 6.5 BB, Hero raises to 15.5 BB, BB raises to 36 BB, Hero raises to 146.67 BB, BB calls 88.77 BB

Flop: (250.03 BB, 2 players) A 2 2

Turn: (250.03 BB, 2 players) 2

River: (250.03 BB, 2 players) 9

Hero shows K A (Full House, Twos full of Aces) (Pre 30%, Flop 91%, Turn 97%)
BB shows K K (Full House, Twos full of Kings) (Pre 70%, Flop 9%, Turn 3%)
Hero wins 237.53 BB
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08-21-2014 , 10:10 AM
Gl
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08-21-2014 , 10:34 AM
Good luck! Glad your shot is going well.
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08-23-2014 , 05:19 AM
Well, the shot at 30nl continues to go well. Managed to get in 850 hands today, but the tables have died for now with only a couple of tables running, so going to come back later when they'll be more.



Overall graph at 30nl:



[x] 21bb/100 winrate
[ ] Sustainable
[x] Fish on a heater

However, I do have to say shot taking is a whole lot more pleasant when you run well for a few thousand hands, so you don't have to constantly think 'a couple of coolers and I'll have to drop back down'. Right now I've got 12 buyins in my 'shot taking roll' for 30nl so can play individual sessions reasonably comfortably without having to check cashier/bankroll to make sure I'm still rolled for the limit. I ran like AIDS at 20nl for the first 10k so I suppose this balances it out.

I've no doubt I'm +EV at this limit, which is nice to realise because I always get nervous about moving up for the first few sessions. Starting to play more relaxed now which will help my volume.

I still do need to put in more volume though. I find I do play my 1k a day goal on days I actually sit down to play...but unfortunately to reach my goal I have to be playing every day. So my options are either play more on certain days then when I'm busy I don't 'have' to play, or just ensure I set aside a couple of hours for poker each day so I can get my 1k in.

Will definitely play more later today though, it's just tables are dead right now. Hoping the rungood continues!
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08-24-2014 , 02:55 PM
Looking good!
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08-25-2014 , 09:04 AM
Had a bad start to the session. Not sure if I played bad or ran bad - PT4 says I got more than my fair share of AA and KK dealt so it may well have been bad play. However, settled down in the evening to grind out a few hundred hands and made it all back to finish the day in profit. FU 888, not today.



1600 hands today which I'm pleased with, but was going for 2000 before my recovery. I still have mental game problems where I like to finish a day 'up' and will often quit early to ensure this happens. I know in my mind it's an awful mentality, but it's difficult to shake it, especially at the start of a new stake (if it was 10nl or something I wouldn't care since I know I can always crush it tommorow or the day after).

So far, including my amazing 4% rakeback, I'm just short of 8 buyins up at 30nl. While this is probably looking too far ahead, the plan is to take a shot at 50nl after I've won 20 buyins at 30nl, at which point the roll will be about $1650.

Couple of interesting hands today. Not sure what this reg was thinking, I seriously tanked OTR. But then thought lol I have 2 pears and called.

888 Poker - $0.30 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 217.43 BB (VPIP: 23.25, PFR: 15.97, 3Bet Preflop: 5.87, Hands: 1,011)
Hero (SB): 122.17 BB
BB: 104.47 BB (VPIP: 23.42, PFR: 17.67, 3Bet Preflop: 9.77, Hands: 694)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J T

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 8 J 5
Hero bets 4.5 BB, BB raises to 14.6 BB, Hero calls 10.1 BB

Turn: (35.2 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, BB bets 20.6 BB, Hero calls 20.6 BB

River: (76.4 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, BB bets 66.27 BB, Hero calls 66.27 BB

Hero shows J T (Two Pair, Jacks and Tens) (Pre 43%, Flop 87%, Turn 100%)
BB shows 2 A (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 57%, Flop 13%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 198.5 BB

Not sure whether this should be a GII? Results orientated but I thought he didn't have many sets other than maybe QQ if he didn't 3bet that pre. Against stuff like AK/AQ I'm not in bad shape and he can't really have too many better flush draws here. Hate flatting the intial flop raise here and then been bet off my equity on a blank turn so elected to 3bet/GII.

888 Poker - $0.30 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP): 100.83 BB
CO: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 23.10, PFR: 18.76, 3Bet Preflop: 6.10, Hands: 577)
BTN: 145.57 BB (VPIP: 7.22, PFR: 6.19, 3Bet Preflop: 2.33, Hands: 104)
SB: 76.33 BB (VPIP: 47.37, PFR: 42.11, 3Bet Preflop: 22.22, Hands: 19)
BB: 104.13 BB (VPIP: 19.11, PFR: 14.84, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 550)
UTG: 190.3 BB (VPIP: 23.06, PFR: 15.86, 3Bet Preflop: 6.71, Hands: 734)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 T

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) K Q A
Hero bets 5.6 BB, BTN raises to 16.2 BB, Hero raises to 56.1 BB, BTN raises to 96 BB, Hero raises to 97.83 BB, BTN calls 1.83 BB

Turn: (203.17 BB, 2 players) 4

River: (203.17 BB, 2 players) 8

Hero shows 9 T (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 20%, Flop 32%, Turn 23%)
BTN shows Q Q (Three of a Kind, Queens) (Pre 80%, Flop 68%, Turn 77%)
Hero wins 193.03 BB


Fish turning his Ax into a bluff. Again, tanked a bit here (though not for that long) as overbet river shoves on 888 are usually a nutted hand. In the end thought he may well take the line with 2 pair and called it off. Was surprised to see just a bare Ax though.

888 Poker - $0.30 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 46.97 BB (VPIP: 52.63, PFR: 28.95, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 38)
BB: 122.83 BB (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
UTG: 88.9 BB (VPIP: 39.97, PFR: 7.89, 3Bet Preflop: 2.79, Hands: 714)
MP: 101.13 BB (VPIP: 26.04, PFR: 21.35, 3Bet Preflop: 2.70, Hands: 197)
CO: 105.2 BB (VPIP: 20.74, PFR: 17.51, 3Bet Preflop: 7.79, Hands: 222)
Hero (BTN): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 9

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, BB calls 3 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 3 players) 9 A 7
BB checks, Hero bets 7.1 BB, BB calls 7.1 BB

Turn: (23.7 BB, 3 players) J
BB checks, Hero bets 17.77 BB, BB calls 17.77 BB

River: (59.23 BB, 3 players) K
BB bets 93.97 BB, Hero calls 71.13 BB

BB shows 8 A (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 28%, Flop 6%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows 9 9 (Three of a Kind, Nines) (Pre 72%, Flop 94%, Turn 91%)
Hero wins 191.43 BB

Last edited by DonkeyStars; 08-25-2014 at 09:12 AM.
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08-25-2014 , 09:31 AM
GL man You will be a nl50 reg for sure. Just put in the hours and read alot on this forum.

I would advice you to take a look at this http://en.donkr.com/articles.

Then read the optimal preflop and postflop play. After i read it all and really took it in i was able to CRUSH nl10-25 and am now doing great at nl50.

Was basically all i read. Havent watched any videos or had any coaching.

Hope youll do fine.

Good luck
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08-25-2014 , 10:24 AM
I think if your just gii every time you flop a flush draw (not saying you do this btw as i don't know) then it will lead to some very swingy variance induced game. We most likely can't count on the J giving us the best straight either. Nut flushes with overs or pair with flush draw with gutter on different board texture and I would say it's fine. Just saying times where you have better equity then just 10 high flush draw basically.

edit: this is coming from a rehabilitating flush draw gii junky

Last edited by spacehippie; 08-25-2014 at 10:33 AM.
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08-25-2014 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by spacehippie
I think if your just gii every time you flop a flush draw (not saying you do this btw as i don't know) then it will lead to some very swingy variance induced game. We most likely can't count on the J giving us the best straight either. Nut flushes with overs or pair with flush draw with gutter on different board texture and I would say it's fine. Just saying times where you have better equity then just 10 high flush draw basically.

edit: this is coming from a rehabilitating flush draw gii junky
The jack would give us the nut straight as there's AKQ on board and we hold a ten. With that said I think my play in that hand was pretty terrible looking back.

- Villain is a huge nit. 7/6/2 over 100 hands. Alright, maybe he got a bad run of cards, but chances are he's a nit.

- Flop hammers my range, so he's probably not raising with anything he plans on folding here. Given his nitty stats, all the 2 pair combos are in his range too, and none of them will be folding.

It just feels so crap to call his flop raise (getting the odds), brick the turn, then face a 3/4 pot bet on the turn and have to fold out 30% equity or so. Had been on a bad run of cards so was slighted tilted and just thought oh **** him, although that's no excuse.
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08-25-2014 , 11:04 AM
Saw you at the tables today. Threw some tomatoes. Standard
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08-25-2014 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunna100
Saw you at the tables today. Threw some tomatoes. Standard
Yeah saw you too, unfortunately it's a pain for me to say hi at the tables because when I have 6 tables loaded up and try and type in the chat box, if there in an action that pops up on another table it makes me start writing in that tables chatbox instead...it's weird but it's always been like that for me.

Can't recall any big pots we played so I presume that means I was **** scared of another 2+2'er at the tables and nitted it up.
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08-25-2014 , 01:30 PM
Ha, think you 3bet me a few times but I cant remember anything too specific tbh

I was getting crushed by fish as usual
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