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08-04-2021 , 01:12 AM

#26

RoadtoPro

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 6,600

GL, sir! Keep up the frequent updates imo

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08-04-2021 , 01:58 AM

#27

Jimmy Busto

banned

Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 655

I don't know whats funnier, you folding that set of Kings on the river or hearing that GazzyB is an upswing coach lol.

This is why poker is not dead even in 2021, you have regs studying GTO and babbling on about theory endlessly yet still end up making hilarious bad plays like that fold. You are wasting your time at 50 if the idea of folding there is even a consideration. You will get crushed even by fish and whales in todays games. Hand 2, I would be jamming the turn.

Last edited by Jimmy Busto; 08-04-2021 at 02:06 AM.

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08-04-2021 , 04:45 AM

#28

PerDoom

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Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,294

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Busto

As a Michigan reg who is probably in the top 2-6 players in terms of winning the most in that market from my estimation so far I would bet that most people who even look at charts or GTO or upswing or other training sites are winning long term if they implement like 80% of what they see/hear and try some form of game selection. Games have gotten harder over last month or so but still way softer than like Bovada/ACR. I would say if OP or any other competent player who reads 2+2 would do better would do better at PLO as the reg/fish ratio is way higher at PLO than at NLHE.

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08-04-2021 , 05:14 AM

#29

Tuma

Worships Amon-Ra

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 16,399

yea we need to combine player pools asap. i saw your opinion perdoom about preferring to keep the whales segregated. it's tough to get nl50 tables going during the day and it would be a tragedy if states remain segregated.

@Jimmy: it's all good dude. i don't expect to be fawned over when sharing my worst hands of the day and as you said babbling about GTO. this thread is intended to be raw. gazzyb is really knowledgeable about solvers and would probably make an excellent coach.

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08-04-2021 , 05:20 AM

#30

Tuma

Worships Amon-Ra

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 16,399

i added a backpack with weights to my walks. started light with 13lbs, it will hopefully make the time spent more efficient.

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08-05-2021 , 03:24 PM

#31

Tuma

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 16,399

GTO Wizard is the best $50 I've ever spent. The practice mode is addictive and it's making me better at this game. It also has solver stuff that I haven't scratched the surface of as of yet.

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08-05-2021 , 04:13 PM

#32

water69

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 560

GL Tuma,

Try adding in some high intensity workouts like running or weight lifting. Should definitely help with sleep.

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08-05-2021 , 10:51 PM

#33

Tuma

Worships Amon-Ra

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 16,399

I would have never made this play without my education materials.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

Hero (BTN): $62.84 (125.7 bb)
SB: $22.01 (44 bb)
BB: $111.03 (222.1 bb)
UTG: $53.18 (106.4 bb)
CO: $61.15 (122.3 bb)

SB posts $0.25, BB posts $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has J

UTG calls $0.50, fold, Hero calls $0.50, fold, BB raises to $2.50, fold, Hero calls $2.00

Flop: ($5.75, 2 players) K

BB bets $3.00, Hero calls $3.00

Turn: ($11.75, 2 players) 2

BB checks, Hero bets $2.25, BB calls $2.25

River: ($16.25, 2 players) 3

BB checks, Hero bets $55.09 and is all-in, fold

Results: $16.25 pot ($0.81 rake)
Final Board: K

Hero wins $15.44

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08-05-2021 , 11:41 PM

#34

Jimmy Busto

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Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 655

err. Your supposed to iso the limper not just flat him. Turn sizing is pretty bad, and over bet on brick river makes no sense. The only street you played well was the flop.

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08-06-2021 , 08:51 AM

#35

2021shipit

adept

Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 1,035

lmao dude study more c'mon. The set of kings was absolutely terrible. And the turn bet on the JT hand is garbage and accomplishes nothing except you wanting to show how cool you are when you 3x pot the river. Play your hands to win money not to make fancy plays or look cool. The lab has a lot of really good materials, use em.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Busto

GazzyB is an upswing coach lol.

Unfortunately agree with Jimmy, lol at gazzyb being an upswing coach.

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08-06-2021 , 09:04 AM

#36

Tuma

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 16,399

I laughed at the idea of trying to be cool.

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08-06-2021 , 10:46 AM

#37

BobbyPeru

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Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 2,444

I think OP will pull it all together eventually. He has the intellect and desire. It can be tough absorbing so much new information and then trying to put it into practice correctly. I suggest focusing on the fundamentals more.

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08-06-2021 , 10:59 AM

#38

2021shipit

adept

Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 1,035

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Originally Posted by BobbyPeru

yes I forgot to add - good luck OP!

I just don't like to see people learning 3x overbet bluffs OTR before learning fundamentals

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08-06-2021 , 01:33 PM

#39

Tuma

Worships Amon-Ra

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 16,399

ty. I'm a microstakes grinder (nit) playing 10x the stake of my skill level.

Been using a GTO trainer and listening to collegiate level instruction on Upswing. And of course clicking buttons.

Graph since joining upswing (averaging around 3 tables):

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08-07-2021 , 11:21 AM

#40

troloyolo

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 613

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Originally Posted by Tuma

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has K

Hero raises to $1.25, fold, CO calls $1.25, 2 folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($4.00, 3 players) 5

BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($4.00, 3 players) 3

BB checks, Hero bets $2.85, fold, BB calls $2.85

River: ($9.70, 2 players) K

BB bets $9.22, Hero folds

Results: $9.70 pot ($0.48 rake)
Final Board: 5

BB wins $9.22
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If you were going for a checkraise on the flop I can get behind the flop play, but this is a very standard bet for about half pot. It's important to bet the flop because your hand is more than strong enough to go 3 streets vs a fish on a good runout.

The river fold I just can't get behind at all. Sure he's gonna have a straight a decent amount of the time, but when you check that flop and bet turn your hand looks much weaker than it is. Diamonds missed, an overcard hit, and you're repping 1pr at best. You have top set and beat some of his value like KJ, KT, Kxhh,

Here's what should be lesson number 1 from upswing. Fish bluff too much.

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08-15-2021 , 10:08 AM

#41

starscream1101

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,847

Hey

Michigan rec here. Playing 50nl (probably should be playing 2nl)...good luck out there.

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08-15-2021 , 10:37 AM

#42

Tuma

Worships Amon-Ra

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 16,399

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Originally Posted by starscream1101

Hey

Michigan rec here. Playing 50nl (probably should be playing 2nl)...good luck out there.

hey man, thanks for the encouragement. i think almost anyone can hang at 50nl....

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08-15-2021 , 11:05 AM

#43

starscream1101

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,847

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Originally Posted by Tuma

hey man, thanks for the encouragement. i think almost anyone can hang at 50nl....

You've not seen my graph - haha. Sent ya a PM. May be able to get you a $50 reoccurring discount on Upswing lab as well.

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08-15-2021 , 11:41 AM

#44

SkullKid

journeyman

Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 345

Hey man GL on the challenge! Will be following. I also went with upswing poker as a base line learning. Mb we could review some hands together?

SK.

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08-15-2021 , 05:52 PM

#45

Tuma

Worships Amon-Ra

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 16,399

im thinking about starting a discord for Michigan regs, will probably get to it in a couple of days. there will be no pressure to share your screen names.

this graph is since starting upswing:

thx doug and ryan!

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08-16-2021 , 03:25 AM

#46

Tuma

Worships Amon-Ra

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 16,399

I'm not rly sure how to make a discord server. Everyone that has posted itt is invited.

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08-16-2021 , 03:26 AM

#47

Tuma

Worships Amon-Ra

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 16,399

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Originally Posted by SkullKid

Hey man GL on the challenge! Will be following. I also went with upswing poker as a base line learning. Mb we could review some hands together?

SK.

that would be cool man. I'm gonna post the server itt once i figure out how to add people.

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08-16-2021 , 03:33 AM

#48

Tuma

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 16,399

OK, I've figured out how to add friends. Drop me a PM or post your handle itt to join.

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11-06-2021 , 09:55 AM

#49

Tuma

Worships Amon-Ra

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 16,399

i believe i stopped updating around the same time as my insomnia disappearing. things have been great but i burned myself out (recurring theme) grinding poker, exercise, and videogames more constantly than consistently. i took a few weeks off from rucking but my poker volume didn't take a huge hit - i've just been trying to grind through the lethargy.

if you remember FGators then you can imagine my results. 140k hands of breakeven stretch, earning slightly less than $3/hr in total.