Trying to become a good cashgame player, from the nano's up
02-18-2012
, 09:57 PM
artysmokes reply 
Quote:
@ Ariebombarie: Your graph is like an upside down version of the graphs of most regs. There's a bit of runbad in there (your actual winnings are lower than EV in all in situations) but the most striking thing is that you're losing a ton of money at showdown. At nanostakes, playing ABC poker - where you bet your strong hands, fold your marginal hands, and rarely bluff - your blue line (money won on the river) should far exceed what you win without showdown.
So let's look at your stats and see what's going on...
Positional awareness is good, with your VPIP rising the closer you get to the button, but it's a little too high in SB, particularly as the VPIP there (31%) is a lot higher than PFR (18%). General rule in the small blind is Raise or Fold. Calling or completing when you'll be in the worst seat post-flop is not a good idea. Your overall VPIP is a little high, so start by being a bit tighter in the small blind. Raise to steal if it's folded around to you, and only call if there are multiple players in the pot and you have a pocket pair or decent suite connector (78s+).
Your 3-bet % is pretty high, and this is no doubt contributing to a lot of pots won pre-flop. When your 3-bets get called, or re-raised, you are often going to be dominated, because at 2NL, most players are only getting it in w/ JJ+ and AK. If you are 3-betting 99+ and AJ, try to do it against players that are much looser than you, so that it's always a value bet.
Your WTSD is too high at 33%. This is why you're losing money at showdown. Other players have tighter ranges, so if you see all 5 cards, they tend to have a better hand, and often have you outkicked. Tighten up a little pre-flop and don't call so many bets post-flop unless you have strong draws and good odds to chase. Dump hands like A5s if you hit the ace, but have no flush draw, as you'll get killed by AJ+. Basically, fold more often! (Try and get WTSD below 29%)
Your call 3-bet% is way too high at 61%. As I said, most players at this level are only 3-betting monster hands. If you're calling with AJ, KQo or worse, you're going to lose a lot of money against AK and JJ+.
Other stats look reasonably good, but you might want to be more careful with your c-bets, or perhaps alter your sizing. (It's impossible to know from these stats where the problem is, but your c-bet success rate of less than 50% would indicate that you're not getting enough folds on the flop, so could be choosing bad spots to c-bet, such as multiway pots, or drawy boards that you missed).
That will have to do for me for now. Feel free to ask for more info on particular issues.
So let's look at your stats and see what's going on...
Positional awareness is good, with your VPIP rising the closer you get to the button, but it's a little too high in SB, particularly as the VPIP there (31%) is a lot higher than PFR (18%). General rule in the small blind is Raise or Fold. Calling or completing when you'll be in the worst seat post-flop is not a good idea. Your overall VPIP is a little high, so start by being a bit tighter in the small blind. Raise to steal if it's folded around to you, and only call if there are multiple players in the pot and you have a pocket pair or decent suite connector (78s+).
Your 3-bet % is pretty high, and this is no doubt contributing to a lot of pots won pre-flop. When your 3-bets get called, or re-raised, you are often going to be dominated, because at 2NL, most players are only getting it in w/ JJ+ and AK. If you are 3-betting 99+ and AJ, try to do it against players that are much looser than you, so that it's always a value bet.
Your WTSD is too high at 33%. This is why you're losing money at showdown. Other players have tighter ranges, so if you see all 5 cards, they tend to have a better hand, and often have you outkicked. Tighten up a little pre-flop and don't call so many bets post-flop unless you have strong draws and good odds to chase. Dump hands like A5s if you hit the ace, but have no flush draw, as you'll get killed by AJ+. Basically, fold more often! (Try and get WTSD below 29%)
Your call 3-bet% is way too high at 61%. As I said, most players at this level are only 3-betting monster hands. If you're calling with AJ, KQo or worse, you're going to lose a lot of money against AK and JJ+.
Other stats look reasonably good, but you might want to be more careful with your c-bets, or perhaps alter your sizing. (It's impossible to know from these stats where the problem is, but your c-bet success rate of less than 50% would indicate that you're not getting enough folds on the flop, so could be choosing bad spots to c-bet, such as multiway pots, or drawy boards that you missed).
That will have to do for me for now. Feel free to ask for more info on particular issues.
02-18-2012
, 09:58 PM
my first answer
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@Artysmokes, thank you for your reply, i find it very usefull.
I don't like the "view" of my graph either, and i want to flip it over the zero-line too. I expected it not to be all runbad, like you said. I also know that the money at nanostakes should come from the blue line (won at showdown) and not from the red line (won without showdown). I will try to fold more marginal hands, and will try to bluff less (especially on the river), betting and raising with good hands i think i do correct now but will track that to be sure.
thx for the pos. awareness, i already suspected (knew) that my SB VPIP was too high (leakbuster(trial) also commented on that, and i am already trying to play less in the SB, i am folding about everything equal or less then KJs, raising pockets and monsters, i do sometimes try to resteal when i guess somebody is stealing, maybe i do this to much
I have to pay more attention to the multiple players in the pot, because of the better odds then.
I will try to lower my VPIP a bit, but i also feel this is caused by the fact that i open really wide against fishes, trying to isolate them from the other regs, so i have the fish alone in the pot, nevertheless i will try to play less hand especially from the SB.
I am already trying to 3 bet less, because of the points you mentioned, when i get 4 bet i only call with KK or AA, but a lot of the times, villain has AA there and i have KK, so good point.
I prefer not to 3 bet 99, cause i have trouwbles with that hand (to commonly dominated against a 3 bett call range)
My WTSD is i guess the most important error in my play, i already don't play hand like A2s - A9s OOP, unless the villain has VPIP 50+. you are correct that i can't seem to fold the worst hand on the river and pay out way to much there, but i feel a part of the loss here is because of villains hitting there outs on the river.
my call 3 bet i will lower a lot, the problem is the many fishes which will do something like this....first villain limps, second raises to 0,04, third villain raises to 0,10, i get AQs, when the vpip/pfr is high of villain 3 i will call, and propably get tsucked out somewhere (or had the worst hand to begin with) nevertheless i will say this as "full" raises and i will tighten up my 3 bet call % range
For the c-bet succes rate i have to mention this, i have quit a few people marked with the note fold to cbet flop = 0 fold to cbet turn = 85+, then i want to get 2 streets of value so i will bet almost potsize 2 times there (unless the board could hit his range, then the cbet still comes but at about 50% of pot) this way if i am played back i am also sure that he has beat me (mostly the villains are passive in that situation) and keep the loss small
i do think you are spot on with the multiway cbet which i loose quite often i guess, i think of this now, if i make my % cbet lower by not cbetting drawy boards which i missed, i will get more respect for my "normal" cbet and the precentage should go up
Thank you very much for your view on my stats, you have definitely confirmed some of my supicions, and added a few other leaks which i will try to fix.
THX!
I don't like the "view" of my graph either, and i want to flip it over the zero-line too. I expected it not to be all runbad, like you said. I also know that the money at nanostakes should come from the blue line (won at showdown) and not from the red line (won without showdown). I will try to fold more marginal hands, and will try to bluff less (especially on the river), betting and raising with good hands i think i do correct now but will track that to be sure.
thx for the pos. awareness, i already suspected (knew) that my SB VPIP was too high (leakbuster(trial) also commented on that, and i am already trying to play less in the SB, i am folding about everything equal or less then KJs, raising pockets and monsters, i do sometimes try to resteal when i guess somebody is stealing, maybe i do this to much
I have to pay more attention to the multiple players in the pot, because of the better odds then.
I will try to lower my VPIP a bit, but i also feel this is caused by the fact that i open really wide against fishes, trying to isolate them from the other regs, so i have the fish alone in the pot, nevertheless i will try to play less hand especially from the SB.
I am already trying to 3 bet less, because of the points you mentioned, when i get 4 bet i only call with KK or AA, but a lot of the times, villain has AA there and i have KK, so good point.
I prefer not to 3 bet 99, cause i have trouwbles with that hand (to commonly dominated against a 3 bett call range)
My WTSD is i guess the most important error in my play, i already don't play hand like A2s - A9s OOP, unless the villain has VPIP 50+. you are correct that i can't seem to fold the worst hand on the river and pay out way to much there, but i feel a part of the loss here is because of villains hitting there outs on the river.
my call 3 bet i will lower a lot, the problem is the many fishes which will do something like this....first villain limps, second raises to 0,04, third villain raises to 0,10, i get AQs, when the vpip/pfr is high of villain 3 i will call, and propably get tsucked out somewhere (or had the worst hand to begin with) nevertheless i will say this as "full" raises and i will tighten up my 3 bet call % range
For the c-bet succes rate i have to mention this, i have quit a few people marked with the note fold to cbet flop = 0 fold to cbet turn = 85+, then i want to get 2 streets of value so i will bet almost potsize 2 times there (unless the board could hit his range, then the cbet still comes but at about 50% of pot) this way if i am played back i am also sure that he has beat me (mostly the villains are passive in that situation) and keep the loss small
i do think you are spot on with the multiway cbet which i loose quite often i guess, i think of this now, if i make my % cbet lower by not cbetting drawy boards which i missed, i will get more respect for my "normal" cbet and the precentage should go up
Thank you very much for your view on my stats, you have definitely confirmed some of my supicions, and added a few other leaks which i will try to fix.
THX!
02-18-2012
, 10:15 PM
and to throw in a hand, here i have the questions is it correct what i do, and why or why not?
utg+1 is a 37/17, handsample 73
mp2 = villain is a 21/15 with a 3 bet of 11,5 handsample is 359
i was thinking he was 3 betting to light so i could shove with the QQ....
utg+1 is a 37/17, handsample 73
mp2 = villain is a 21/15 with a 3 bet of 11,5 handsample is 359
i was thinking he was 3 betting to light so i could shove with the QQ....
Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11911122
MP1: $2.05 (102.5 bb)
MP2: $2.13 (106.5 bb)
Hero (MP3): $2.23 (111.5 bb)
CO: $2.31 (115.5 bb)
BTN: $1.58 (79 bb)
SB: $1.98 (99 bb)
BB: $2.45 (122.5 bb)
UTG+1: $2.06 (103 bb)
UTG+2: $3.43 (171.5 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q
Q
UTG+1 raises to $0.10, 2 folds, MP2 raises to $0.24, Hero raises to $0.76, 5 folds, MP2 raises to $2.13 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.37
Flop: ($4.39) J K 2
(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($4.39) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($4.39) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11911122
MP1: $2.05 (102.5 bb)
MP2: $2.13 (106.5 bb)
Hero (MP3): $2.23 (111.5 bb)
CO: $2.31 (115.5 bb)
BTN: $1.58 (79 bb)
SB: $1.98 (99 bb)
BB: $2.45 (122.5 bb)
UTG+1: $2.06 (103 bb)
UTG+2: $3.43 (171.5 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q
QUTG+1 raises to $0.10, 2 folds, MP2 raises to $0.24, Hero raises to $0.76, 5 folds, MP2 raises to $2.13 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.37
Flop: ($4.39) J
K 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)Turn: ($4.39) 8
(2 players, 1 is all-in)River: ($4.39) A
(2 players, 1 is all-in)Spoiler:
02-18-2012
, 10:24 PM
yesterday i spotted the fish that made my graph go up for a short while, i cant keep this from you guys enjoy
villain is a 92/29, with a 3 bet of 36,4 over a handsample of 39, it was obvious this was a big fish with a big stack, just had to get it from him, and this was the hand of the table
villain is a 92/29, with a 3 bet of 36,4 over a handsample of 39, it was obvious this was a big fish with a big stack, just had to get it from him, and this was the hand of the table
Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11911142
BB: $4.01 (200.5 bb)
MP: $3.54 (177 bb)
Hero (CO): $4.50 (225 bb)
BTN: $3.31 (165.5 bb)
SB: $2 (100 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 5 5
MP folds, Hero raises to $0.06, BTN calls $0.06, SB folds, BB raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.24, BTN folds
Flop: ($0.67) 7 3 6 (2 players)
BB bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1.30, BB calls $1
Turn: ($3.27) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $1, Hero raises to $2.90 and is all-in, BB calls $1.41 and is all-in
River: ($8.09) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11911142
BB: $4.01 (200.5 bb)
MP: $3.54 (177 bb)
Hero (CO): $4.50 (225 bb)
BTN: $3.31 (165.5 bb)
SB: $2 (100 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 5
5MP folds, Hero raises to $0.06, BTN calls $0.06, SB folds, BB raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.24, BTN folds
Flop: ($0.67) 7
3 6 (2 players)BB bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1.30, BB calls $1
Turn: ($3.27) 3
(2 players)BB bets $1, Hero raises to $2.90 and is all-in, BB calls $1.41 and is all-in
River: ($8.09) 4
(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Last edited by Ariebombarie; 02-18-2012 at 10:31 PM.
02-19-2012
, 08:26 AM
My morning session did quite good this time.....
and a funny hand, not really special but it shows where the money comes from
and a funny hand, not really special but it shows where the money comes from
Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11916312
BB: $2.17 (108.5 bb)
UTG+2: $0.76 (38 bb)
MP1: $2.45 (122.5 bb)
Hero (MP2): $2.03 (101.5 bb)
MP3: $2.35 (117.5 bb)
CO: $1.37 (68.5 bb)
BTN: $0.80 (40 bb)
SB: $1 (50 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8 8
CO posts BB OOP, UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, 3 folds, SB calls $0.09, BB folds
Flop: ($0.35) 3 8 7 (3 players)
SB checks, MP1 bets $0.26, Hero calls $0.26, SB folds
Turn: ($0.87) 3 (2 players)
MP1 bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60
River: ($2.07) 8 (2 players)
MP1 bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.07, MP1 calls $0.57
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11916312
BB: $2.17 (108.5 bb)
UTG+2: $0.76 (38 bb)
MP1: $2.45 (122.5 bb)
Hero (MP2): $2.03 (101.5 bb)
MP3: $2.35 (117.5 bb)
CO: $1.37 (68.5 bb)
BTN: $0.80 (40 bb)
SB: $1 (50 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8
8CO posts BB OOP, UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, 3 folds, SB calls $0.09, BB folds
Flop: ($0.35) 3
8 7 (3 players)SB checks, MP1 bets $0.26, Hero calls $0.26, SB folds
Turn: ($0.87) 3
(2 players)MP1 bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60
River: ($2.07) 8
(2 players)MP1 bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.07, MP1 calls $0.57
Spoiler:
02-21-2012
, 08:05 PM
update
this afternoon it went bad, i played not that good, and the results were that i needed to rethink my game....
the results of the session
i came to the conclusion that i should play less tables until my WR is positive, for now i will play max 6 cashtables simultaenously (instead of 12-15),
also my BR is gettin a boost (had some real nice MTT wins today again) so i thought i can give it a shot on NL5, but i wanted to play 6 max instead of FR, because of lot of the learning things is made for 6 max
sat down at 4 tables and gave it a go, went ok, there are better players there (and just as bad) as at NL2, was my first impression.....
i do have a problem with the amount of hands i play, but first i must make profit!!!! else i just loose more
ohhhh for now i use a 50 buyin BRM for the cashgames, for the MTT's is use 200 buyin BRM
here's the graph of the evening
now of to find my errors
this afternoon it went bad, i played not that good, and the results were that i needed to rethink my game....
the results of the session
i came to the conclusion that i should play less tables until my WR is positive, for now i will play max 6 cashtables simultaenously (instead of 12-15),
also my BR is gettin a boost (had some real nice MTT wins today again) so i thought i can give it a shot on NL5, but i wanted to play 6 max instead of FR, because of lot of the learning things is made for 6 max
sat down at 4 tables and gave it a go, went ok, there are better players there (and just as bad) as at NL2, was my first impression.....
i do have a problem with the amount of hands i play, but first i must make profit!!!! else i just loose more
ohhhh for now i use a 50 buyin BRM for the cashgames, for the MTT's is use 200 buyin BRM
here's the graph of the evening
now of to find my errors
02-21-2012
, 08:24 PM
here is would like some comments on (if i have viewers )
especially river call
opponent is prob regular, after 113 hands, 22/15/2,9, but at the time a thought he was splashing thought that during the hands his stats were more like 40/30/6 but samplesize was prob to small (doh)
here's the hand
)especially river call
opponent is prob regular, after 113 hands, 22/15/2,9, but at the time a thought he was splashing thought that during the hands his stats were more like 40/30/6 but samplesize was prob to small (doh)
here's the hand
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11950492
CO: $9.33 (186.6 bb)
BTN: $6.07 (121.4 bb)
SB: $6.18 (123.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $4.40 (88 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with T A
CO folds, BTN raises to $0.15, SB folds, Hero calls $0.10
Flop: ($0.32) 9 T 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.55
Turn: ($1.82) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.15, BTN calls $1.15
River: ($4.12) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.60, Hero calls $1.60
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11950492
CO: $9.33 (186.6 bb)
BTN: $6.07 (121.4 bb)
SB: $6.18 (123.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $4.40 (88 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with T
ACO folds, BTN raises to $0.15, SB folds, Hero calls $0.10
Flop: ($0.32) 9
T 2 (2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.55
Turn: ($1.82) 7
(2 players)Hero bets $1.15, BTN calls $1.15
River: ($4.12) 8
(2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $1.60, Hero calls $1.60
Spoiler:
02-21-2012
, 08:28 PM
please comment, i think i made a lot of errors here, villain is 54/25/11,4 after 88 hands....
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11953432
BB: $5.36 (107.2 bb)
UTG: $8.84 (176.8 bb)
MP: $3.39 (67.8 bb)
CO: $4.83 (96.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): $4.49 (89.8 bb)
SB: $3.01 (60.2 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with A J
UTG folds, MP calls $0.05, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.20, SB raises to $0.35, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.15
Flop: ($0.80) 2 K 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($0.80) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $0.20, Hero raises to $1, SB calls $0.80
River: ($2.80) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $1.66 and is all-in, Hero folds
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11953432
BB: $5.36 (107.2 bb)
UTG: $8.84 (176.8 bb)
MP: $3.39 (67.8 bb)
CO: $4.83 (96.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): $4.49 (89.8 bb)
SB: $3.01 (60.2 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with A
JUTG folds, MP calls $0.05, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.20, SB raises to $0.35, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.15
Flop: ($0.80) 2
K 7 (2 players)SB checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($0.80) 2
(2 players)SB bets $0.20, Hero raises to $1, SB calls $0.80
River: ($2.80) 4
(2 players)SB bets $1.66 and is all-in, Hero folds
Spoiler:
02-21-2012
, 08:38 PM
the 3 top winners of the session....
very loose table, villain 49/21/0 over 68 hands
same table, earlier in the session, this villain is 33/19/5.4 over 100 hands
third hand
same table even earlier in the session, initial turn raiser is same villain as in hand 2, the reraiser is a 41/26/2.6 over 100 hands
very loose table, villain 49/21/0 over 68 hands
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11953442
SB: $2.98 (59.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $8.79 (175.8 bb)
UTG: $5.34 (106.8 bb)
MP: $7.21 (144.2 bb)
CO: $4.95 (99 bb)
BTN: $4.76 (95.2 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q A
2 folds, CO raises to $0.17, BTN calls $0.17, SB calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.12
Flop: ($0.68) K T J (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $0.50, SB folds, Hero raises to $1.55, CO folds, BTN calls $1.05
Turn: ($3.78) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.15, BTN calls $3.04 and is all-in
River: ($9.86) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11953442
SB: $2.98 (59.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $8.79 (175.8 bb)
UTG: $5.34 (106.8 bb)
MP: $7.21 (144.2 bb)
CO: $4.95 (99 bb)
BTN: $4.76 (95.2 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q
A2 folds, CO raises to $0.17, BTN calls $0.17, SB calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.12
Flop: ($0.68) K
T J (4 players)SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $0.50, SB folds, Hero raises to $1.55, CO folds, BTN calls $1.05
Turn: ($3.78) 9
(2 players)Hero bets $3.15, BTN calls $3.04 and is all-in
River: ($9.86) T
(2 players, 1 is all-in)Spoiler:
same table, earlier in the session, this villain is 33/19/5.4 over 100 hands
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11953452
MP: $3.11 (62.2 bb)
Hero (CO): $7.30 (146 bb)
BTN: $6.01 (120.2 bb)
SB: $6.34 (126.8 bb)
BB: $2.07 (41.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with J J
MP folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, SB folds, BB raises to $2.07 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.92, BTN folds
Flop: ($4.31) A 5 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($4.31) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($4.31) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11953452
MP: $3.11 (62.2 bb)
Hero (CO): $7.30 (146 bb)
BTN: $6.01 (120.2 bb)
SB: $6.34 (126.8 bb)
BB: $2.07 (41.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with J
JMP folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, SB folds, BB raises to $2.07 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.92, BTN folds
Flop: ($4.31) A
5 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)Turn: ($4.31) A
(2 players, 1 is all-in)River: ($4.31) 7
(2 players, 1 is all-in)Spoiler:
third hand
same table even earlier in the session, initial turn raiser is same villain as in hand 2, the reraiser is a 41/26/2.6 over 100 hands
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11953462
CO: $6.03 (120.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): $5.13 (102.6 bb)
SB: $5.94 (118.8 bb)
BB: $5 (100 bb)
UTG: $3.97 (79.4 bb)
MP: $6.15 (123 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with A 9
UTG raises to $0.20, MP folds, CO calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, 2 folds
Flop: ($0.67) 3 8 6 (3 players)
UTG bets $0.35, CO raises to $1.35, Hero raises to $4.93 and is all-in, 2 folds
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11953462
CO: $6.03 (120.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): $5.13 (102.6 bb)
SB: $5.94 (118.8 bb)
BB: $5 (100 bb)
UTG: $3.97 (79.4 bb)
MP: $6.15 (123 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with A
9UTG raises to $0.20, MP folds, CO calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, 2 folds
Flop: ($0.67) 3
8 6 (3 players)UTG bets $0.35, CO raises to $1.35, Hero raises to $4.93 and is all-in, 2 folds
Spoiler:
02-23-2012
, 08:17 AM
yesterday was not really a cashgame day, i did not feel much for cashgaming, so my volume is extremely low, i ran quite good this time.....
made 4 very short sessions (i also kept my number of tables low, to see if there will be difference, i think i play to many tables to be profitable now)
here are the graphs of yesterday
made 4 very short sessions (i also kept my number of tables low, to see if there will be difference, i think i play to many tables to be profitable now)
here are the graphs of yesterday
02-23-2012
, 08:39 AM
02-23-2012
, 08:46 AM
the most losing hands of yesterday.....
villain is 19/13/4.0 over 296 hands
Another losing hand, pleas comment on this if i played good, or that i should have folded somewhere along the way
villain is 44/15/6.3 over 154 hands
villain is 19/13/4.0 over 296 hands
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11972572
BB: $5.45 (109 bb)
UTG: $4.20 (84 bb)
MP: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
CO: $4.36 (87.2 bb)
BTN: $5 (100 bb)
Hero (SB): $5.22 (104.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 7
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB raises to $0.45, Hero calls $0.30
Flop: ($0.90) 2 3 T (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks
Turn: ($0.90) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $0.75, BB calls $0.75
River: ($2.40) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.55, BB calls $1.55
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11972572
BB: $5.45 (109 bb)
UTG: $4.20 (84 bb)
MP: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
CO: $4.36 (87.2 bb)
BTN: $5 (100 bb)
Hero (SB): $5.22 (104.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 7
74 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB raises to $0.45, Hero calls $0.30
Flop: ($0.90) 2
3 T (2 players)Hero checks, BB checks
Turn: ($0.90) Q
(2 players)Hero bets $0.75, BB calls $0.75
River: ($2.40) 6
(2 players)Hero bets $1.55, BB calls $1.55
Spoiler:
Another losing hand, pleas comment on this if i played good, or that i should have folded somewhere along the way
villain is 44/15/6.3 over 154 hands
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11972582
MP: $14.36 (287.2 bb)
CO: $5.58 (111.6 bb)
BTN: $3.41 (68.2 bb)
SB: $4 (80 bb)
BB: $6.02 (120.4 bb)
Hero (UTG): $4.53 (90.6 bb)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with A J
Hero raises to $0.15, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.15, 2 folds
Flop: ($0.37) Q 9 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, BTN raises to $0.55, Hero calls $0.35
Turn: ($1.47) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.95, Hero calls $0.95
River: ($3.37) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11972582
MP: $14.36 (287.2 bb)
CO: $5.58 (111.6 bb)
BTN: $3.41 (68.2 bb)
SB: $4 (80 bb)
BB: $6.02 (120.4 bb)
Hero (UTG): $4.53 (90.6 bb)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with A
JHero raises to $0.15, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.15, 2 folds
Flop: ($0.37) Q
9 4 (2 players)Hero bets $0.20, BTN raises to $0.55, Hero calls $0.35
Turn: ($1.47) 8
(2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $0.95, Hero calls $0.95
River: ($3.37) J
(2 players)Hero checks, BTN checks
Spoiler:
02-23-2012
, 08:56 AM
and the big winners of yesterday
villain is a very loose donky, which annoyed everybody by talking jibberisch on the chat
stats villain 54/44/58.8 (VPIP/PFR/3bet), WOW, this guy reraises almost everything!!!!
sometimes you have to get lucky, the raise on the flop i did because i thought he missed there and tried to donkbet bluf me of the hand
villain is 71/11/6.3 over 46 hands
And the last winner is want to show
villain is 46/13/28.6 over 26 hands
villain is a very loose donky, which annoyed everybody by talking jibberisch on the chat
stats villain 54/44/58.8 (VPIP/PFR/3bet), WOW, this guy reraises almost everything!!!!
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11972592
BTN: $19.37 (387.4 bb)
SB: $5.49 (109.8 bb)
BB: $5 (100 bb)
MP: $5.16 (103.2 bb)
Hero (CO): $7.75 (155 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
MP folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN raises to $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1, BTN raises to $19.37 and is all-in, Hero calls $6.75 and is all-in
Flop: ($15.57) 3 Q 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($15.57) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($15.57) 7 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11972592
BTN: $19.37 (387.4 bb)
SB: $5.49 (109.8 bb)
BB: $5 (100 bb)
MP: $5.16 (103.2 bb)
Hero (CO): $7.75 (155 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with K
KMP folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN raises to $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1, BTN raises to $19.37 and is all-in, Hero calls $6.75 and is all-in
Flop: ($15.57) 3
Q 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)Turn: ($15.57) A
(2 players, 2 are all-in)River: ($15.57) 7
(2 players, 2 are all-in)Spoiler:
sometimes you have to get lucky, the raise on the flop i did because i thought he missed there and tried to donkbet bluf me of the hand
villain is 71/11/6.3 over 46 hands
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11972612
Hero (SB): $4.27 (85.4 bb)
BB: $2 (40 bb)
CO: $3.90 (78 bb)
BTN: $5.91 (118.2 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with A T
CO calls $0.05, BTN folds, Hero raises to $0.20, BB folds, CO calls $0.15
Flop: ($0.45) 8 2 Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.15, Hero raises to $0.70, CO calls $0.55
Turn: ($1.85) J (2 players)
Hero bets $1.10, CO calls $1.10
River: ($4.05) K (2 players)
Hero bets $2.27 and is all-in, CO calls $1.90 and is all-in
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11972612
Hero (SB): $4.27 (85.4 bb)
BB: $2 (40 bb)
CO: $3.90 (78 bb)
BTN: $5.91 (118.2 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with A
TCO calls $0.05, BTN folds, Hero raises to $0.20, BB folds, CO calls $0.15
Flop: ($0.45) 8
2 Q (2 players)Hero checks, CO bets $0.15, Hero raises to $0.70, CO calls $0.55
Turn: ($1.85) J
(2 players)Hero bets $1.10, CO calls $1.10
River: ($4.05) K
(2 players)Hero bets $2.27 and is all-in, CO calls $1.90 and is all-in
Spoiler:
And the last winner is want to show
villain is 46/13/28.6 over 26 hands
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11972622
BTN: $3.08 (61.6 bb)
SB: $4.80 (96 bb)
BB: $3.11 (62.2 bb)
MP: $6.51 (130.2 bb)
Hero (CO): $4.88 (97.6 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with A 6
MP folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 2 folds, BB calls $0.10
Flop: ($0.32) A 5 Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.30, BB calls $0.30
Turn: ($0.92) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.75, BB raises to $2.05, Hero raises to $4.43 and is all-in, BB calls $0.61 and is all-in
River: ($6.24) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11972622
BTN: $3.08 (61.6 bb)
SB: $4.80 (96 bb)
BB: $3.11 (62.2 bb)
MP: $6.51 (130.2 bb)
Hero (CO): $4.88 (97.6 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with A
6MP folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 2 folds, BB calls $0.10
Flop: ($0.32) A
5 Q (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.30, BB calls $0.30
Turn: ($0.92) 2
(2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.75, BB raises to $2.05, Hero raises to $4.43 and is all-in, BB calls $0.61 and is all-in
River: ($6.24) T
(2 players, 2 are all-in)Spoiler:
02-24-2012
, 08:53 AM
ok here we go again with another short update, this will probably be the only session of today at the cashtables, it went AWESOME
i felt confident took my time for the decisions, folded a few good hands that were (i think) beaten.....
i did however made an error i think wich cost me almost a buyin (comes next in HH review)
for now the giraffe of today (i wish everyday could go like this)
i felt confident took my time for the decisions, folded a few good hands that were (i think) beaten.....
i did however made an error i think wich cost me almost a buyin (comes next in HH review)
for now the giraffe of today (i wish everyday could go like this
)
02-24-2012
, 08:58 AM
the hands of the session, i would like comments on
first the (i think) really bad river call
villain is a 24/15/6.5 over 129 hands
my thoughts at the moment at the river that he could have QK, QA (which made it), but i really thought he had or AK or a missed spade draw, on the other hand there's the betsize of half pot, which reaks to be an valuebet
here's the hand
first the (i think) really bad river call
villain is a 24/15/6.5 over 129 hands
my thoughts at the moment at the river that he could have QK, QA (which made it), but i really thought he had or AK or a missed spade draw, on the other hand there's the betsize of half pot, which reaks to be an valuebet
here's the hand
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11983142
BB: $4.78 (95.6 bb)
MP: $5.42 (108.4 bb)
CO: $4.89 (97.8 bb)
BTN: $5.99 (119.8 bb)
Hero (SB): $4.42 (88.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with J J
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.50, BB folds, BTN calls $0.35
Flop: ($1.05) J 4 T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks
Turn: ($1.05) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $1, BTN calls $1
River: ($3.05) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.46, Hero calls $1.46
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11983142
BB: $4.78 (95.6 bb)
MP: $5.42 (108.4 bb)
CO: $4.89 (97.8 bb)
BTN: $5.99 (119.8 bb)
Hero (SB): $4.42 (88.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with J
J2 folds, BTN raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.50, BB folds, BTN calls $0.35
Flop: ($1.05) J
4 T (2 players)Hero checks, BTN checks
Turn: ($1.05) 8
(2 players)Hero bets $1, BTN calls $1
River: ($3.05) 9
(2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $1.46, Hero calls $1.46
Spoiler:
02-24-2012
, 09:02 AM
and for this one, i question the turn call (watch the stacksize of villain)
villain is a 50/11/20 over 19 hands
villain is a 50/11/20 over 19 hands
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11983152
SB: $1.95 (39 bb)
Hero (BB): $7.11 (142.2 bb)
MP: $9.85 (197 bb)
CO: $2.87 (57.4 bb)
BTN: $6.69 (133.8 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A 6
MP raises to $0.20, 2 folds, SB calls $0.18, Hero calls $0.15
Flop: ($0.60) 3 J 9 (3 players)
SB bets $0.35, Hero calls $0.35, MP folds
Turn: ($1.30) 3 (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $3.30, SB calls $0.40
River: ($4.10) 8 (2 players)
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11983152
SB: $1.95 (39 bb)
Hero (BB): $7.11 (142.2 bb)
MP: $9.85 (197 bb)
CO: $2.87 (57.4 bb)
BTN: $6.69 (133.8 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A
6MP raises to $0.20, 2 folds, SB calls $0.18, Hero calls $0.15
Flop: ($0.60) 3
J 9 (3 players)SB bets $0.35, Hero calls $0.35, MP folds
Turn: ($1.30) 3
(2 players)SB bets $1, Hero raises to $3.30, SB calls $0.40
River: ($4.10) 8
(2 players)Spoiler:
02-24-2012
, 09:13 AM
somewhat off topic but what the heck.....
This is my hud settings, which i will upload also here, so i can use the hud at my buddy's place
The original setup i got from the HEM forum's but i have edited it to my preferences
all values are color coded in this way,
value is optimal/near optimal = white
value lower then optimal = red
value is higher then optimal = green
this way you don't have a freakin rainbow on your screen, but an obvious indication of how somebody plays.....
i didn't have values for turn cbet, fold to turn cbet, 4 bet, and fold to 4bet, so i left them always white
now a picture, what probably makes more sense then this whole lap of text
and the file off course
http://www.mediafire.com/?swt0gjgu3bv0y9c
This is my hud settings, which i will upload also here, so i can use the hud at my buddy's place
The original setup i got from the HEM forum's but i have edited it to my preferences
all values are color coded in this way,
value is optimal/near optimal = white
value lower then optimal = red
value is higher then optimal = green
this way you don't have a freakin rainbow on your screen, but an obvious indication of how somebody plays.....
i didn't have values for turn cbet, fold to turn cbet, 4 bet, and fold to 4bet, so i left them always white
now a picture, what probably makes more sense then this whole lap of text
and the file off course
http://www.mediafire.com/?swt0gjgu3bv0y9c