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05-21-2019 , 02:45 PM
The raise with 8s would be good because most players will just bomb river with a flush because a straight would never fold.

Bet sizes in 2/5 are really face up, so putting max pressure against weak bets when you have the best blockers/ position probably makes more money these days than just playing tight and making good value bets
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05-21-2019 , 03:15 PM
Just fold J9s pre.
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05-21-2019 , 03:36 PM
Fold J9s preflop? NEVER!
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05-21-2019 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dizzyqtp
it's just a very wet/dynamic board where there are many combos of worse hands/draws that will call larger bets and it is not a board I am going to bet/barrel off on that often so when I do I will be sizing up (getting more value with strong hands and more FE with the bluffs I choose)

river is a very easy fold when SB leads into 2 people there so wp.

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& second hand just makes it even more obvious h1 was a good fold.
Makes sense - helps me to hear it explained that way. Appreciate it.

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Originally Posted by upswinging
Size up because they have lots of fd and sd type hands that will never fold but will also never raise all in over a bet. They play loose pre but they’re very fit or fold post. They all try to realize equity as cheaply as possible and bet when they have it no matter how stupid the line. That’s why river is a fold.

H2 is interesting because you have the 8s. Raising to push him off a chop here would be good.

J9hh is also a bet otf
Interesting. I like where you’re gojng although I wonder if he would fold many of his straights here.


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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
Just fold J9s pre.
Def close. When it’s close I tend to go with the more aggressive option for some meta strategy reasons - esp with people I play with regularly
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05-21-2019 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Fold J9s preflop? NEVER!
From EP for sure
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05-21-2019 , 03:57 PM
You only get dealt J9s once every 330 hands. That's less than you get pocket Aces. I'm going to try to make the most out of each and every opportunity.
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05-22-2019 , 03:46 AM
Wet board and we want to charge villains. Typically live players aren't that great at maths so won't be too worried about pot odds and don't like to fold draws. Over charging draws is a really important part of being a winning live player.
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05-23-2019 , 03:09 PM
Monday & Wednesday.

Made a good solid chunk on Monday in an above average weekday morning/afternoon game, which I subsequently lost right back on Wednesday.

Things started off superbly on Monday. Played two hands of interest, the first one being:

UTG opens to 10 (lol) we 3bet Q Q to 35 in UTG +1. NIT who I am friendly with makes it 95 to go with 120 begind from UTG +2. folds to us and we make the fold.

Actually talked this one over with a buddy who knows villian who also advocated for a fold. Interesting spot but yeah -_-.

The hand of the day happens when we look down at A K :spade in the BB.

UTG opens to 25, two calls in the field, and the SB calls as well. Obviously a good spot to make it like ~160 here, but we decide to call and take it to the streets 5 way.

The flop gets the heart pumping: 2 4 5 . SB checks, we check as well, and it gets around to the player on the BTN who bets 100 with 150 behind. SB folds, we ship for ~500 eff with other players, and it folds to the BTN who gets in the rest of his stack drawing thin with J T and we hold.


Butchered hand alert

Wednesday got off to an immediate rocky start in a hand where I decide to flat A A . in the CO after the HJ opens to 15 due to two VIP's being in the blinds. Regardless, this is a mistake in hindsight. BTN and blinds call and we go 5 way to a flop of 9: club: 6 4 . SB leads for 30, BB & original raiser fold, we call, and BTN raises to 90. Both of us call and we see the J OTT.

SB & we check and then the BTN bets 200 with 200 behind. SB calls and we fold. River is 2 and SB calls the BTN jam and 9 6 is good. Obv could have avoided these whole shenanigans.

THE NEXT HAND illustrated how the rest of our day went there's one limp and we raise to 25 from the HJ with A T BTN (SB from last hand) calls, BB calls, and limper calls.

We go 4 way to a flop of K J J . Flop checks through and we get our wish, the Q OTT completing the rainbow. checks to us and we wager 60. BTN and BB call, and we see the AMAZING K OTR.

BB checks, we check and BTN wagers 100. BB calls, we fold and K8o is good

Called the session short after it was clear I was feeling quite tilted. Made a bad call below:

3 limps, we overlimp 9 9 OTB. BB raise 30, only we call.

Flop: A 6 3 check/check
Turn 6: spade: check/check
River 6 he leads 30, we call and lose to KK.

Hours: 73.5. Wont be making 150 it seems like, but that's alright. Hopefully 100
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05-23-2019 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyRock
Wet board and we want to charge villains. Typically live players aren't that great at maths so won't be too worried about pot odds and don't like to fold draws. Over charging draws is a really important part of being a winning live player.
agree

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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
You only get dealt J9s once every 330 hands. That's less than you get pocket Aces. I'm going to try to make the most out of each and every opportunity.
never folding j9 again
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05-23-2019 , 04:38 PM
Sounds like a bad game if you have to fold qq pre for 50bb. I don’t think anyone can make very much in a game like that using a strat of making big hands and getting paid... when it seems like everyone else is racing for the bottom

Does plo run in your area?
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05-23-2019 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by upswinging
Sounds like a bad game if you have to fold qq pre for 50bb. I don’t think anyone can make very much in a game like that using a strat of making big hands and getting paid.

Does plo run in your area?
this is like one of three people in the world I would fold that to. 2/5 PLO runs at a casino 15 minutes further. My drive is already 70 mins so I rarely want to go 15 minutes more but it may be worth it, for sure.

I've played a fair amount of online PLO, and every session of live PLO I've played across the country I feel like there's substantial $$ to be made. The swings always put me off but maybe I should suck it up.
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05-24-2019 , 11:34 AM
I don’t have the data, but I think the average 2/5 plo tag makes more than the very best 2/5nl pros and average 5/T pros. The issue with plo is the size of the game and your br. This is just guessing again but I’d say being forced to short stack a bigger plo game is better than playing in an average 5/T no limit
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05-26-2019 , 12:27 PM
Took the advice of upswinging yesterday. A PLO ran for the first time in awhile at the home casino and we got into a pretty awesome game for the first 3-3.5 hours. Last hour or so was pretty bad, and we ended up heading out after a 4.5 hour session.

The first hand I played that confused me a bit, I also posted in the PLO section was this:

Interesting spot. Could be a simple one for you all.

EP limp
Hero (MP) raise A A K 4 to 25
two calls in the field
Bb call
Limper call

Flop (125) Q 8 7

bb lead 100 (300 behind)
EP jams 350
Hero? Players behind us 500 eff

Two backdoors and AA

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Next up, we look down at J J T 5 OTB, and overlimp three limps, blinds come along and we see a flop 3 ways of

J 5 3

Blinds check, and EP limper ($583 - we cover) leads for 30. Folds to us and we make it 100 to go. Only v calls and we see the marvelous

3 OTT

He checks, we bet 210, and he jams for 483 total. I’m a little embrassed to say I nit rolled a bit. Thought he either had 33 or 55 and since we block 55 it’s close. Either way it’s a snap. We eventually call obv and win against A Q 3 x

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Next up we have Q Q J 9 and raise to 20 UTG. SB and BB call and we go 3 way to a flop of Q45r

X/X we bet 55, call call.

Turn: 4r

x/x and we x cause I feel like any draw will maybe just give up now if we bet? Idk I guess I’m trying to let them catch up? Could be flawed thinking.

River 5x

x/x and we bet 150, get one call. Is this line ok?

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lastly is this line fine as well?

4 way straddled pot. BTN, SB, We call BB with K K 9 5 S checks.

Flop A Q 8

x/x/x BTN bets 30.
SB call, we call, S fold.

Turn 4

x/x BTN 75 with 200 behind
SB call 800 behind
We call & cover.



Won 130bb. up this month to 78 hours.

Thx all, gl




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05-26-2019 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by upswinging
I don’t have the data, but I think the average 2/5 plo tag makes more than the very best 2/5nl pros and average 5/T pros. The issue with plo is the size of the game and your br. This is just guessing again but I’d say being forced to short stack a bigger plo game is better than playing in an average 5/T no limit


got in a session of the great game. So much fun and I pay attention way more because I’m worse at the game imo which is better for me in the long run.


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05-27-2019 , 08:13 PM
Fold hand 1, bet small ott hand 3, the rest looks ok
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05-28-2019 , 12:47 PM
Drove a few states over to play on Sunday. Parx actually had 28 games going which is pretty solid for a Sunday, albeit for a long weekend of course.

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got into the 2/2 PLO. Played one interesting hand where there are two limps, a raise to 12 from MP, a call from HJ, and we pot to 56 OTB with A A Q T

super rec SB call, raiser & caller both call.

Flop: J J 3

all check to me, we check

Turn: 6 SB, orig raiser check, HJ bets 100. We call, SB, MP fold.

River: 4
SB pot ~400. We fold

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ended up dropping 150bb in the PLO, and then another 10 bb in 2 hours of 2/5 NL.

May Hours: 83.

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Originally Posted by upswinging
Fold hand 1, bet small ott hand 3, the rest looks ok
appreciate it.
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05-30-2019 , 11:50 AM
Appreciation

Having worked every weekday of my life since I was 15 years old, it always seemed like this soul was going to be another life given to the standard western human life in today's age. I worked while I attended high school, college, while playing sports during both tenures. 40+ hours per week, set schedule, week in week out. I was content with this, knowing the life it could provide. Content, but not ecstatic.

There's nothing at all wrong with this life. If you look at live maybe just a hundred years ago, this was the life of many, but for even less of a reward. Times have continued to change, and in most ways progress. To say my last 10 years have been a blur would be an understatement. I wake up almost daily thinking where the time has gone. And while entertaining that very thought, more life has just passed.

This month, my first month in a decade of not working for someone, something, or improving myself in someway has ended. I did whatever I wanted, whenever I wanted. I have never had longer than a one week vacation period of being able to do this. The feeling is not visible, but it is appreciable. My biggest mistake this month was not one on the tables. It was that I didn't appreciate this past month in the moment. Now that is gone, I look back once again thinking where it has gone.
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05-30-2019 , 01:07 PM
nice journey mate, following
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06-01-2019 , 04:44 PM
May Results:

-96 hours
-won close to 500bb across PLO/NLH
-got to play in a new venue

gonna try to keep this going. I'm in deep with a company for a decent management position. I'll know next week if I've got the job or not. If not, another 100 hr of poker this month which will get me to 2k live hours.

bonus HH:

one limp, we raise Q Q to 25 from HJ. SB, and limper call, both fun players

Flop (75) J T 7
c/c
we wager 45
call/call

Turn (210) 3
check
limper lead 75
we call
s/b CRAI for 229 total
leader calls with $100 behind

hero?

June goal: play more PLO volume.
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06-01-2019 , 05:15 PM
Overpair with an SPR ~1 on a draw heavy board and loose opponents, fist pump GII.

Glad you enjoyed your month of freedom, reminds me of my first month after getting out of the Army. I probably take it for granted now when I should really appreciate poker more for what it's given me.
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06-01-2019 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by pure_aggression
Overpair with an SPR ~1 on a draw heavy board and loose opponents, fist pump GII.

Glad you enjoyed your month of freedom, reminds me of my first month after getting out of the Army. I probably take it for granted now when I should really appreciate poker more for what it's given me.
yooo PA thanks for the reply. I'll be checking in on your WSOP :-). The time off has been great. One of the fastest months of my life because I guess it's true that time flies when you're enjoying every minute of it. Can't complain.

100% agree with the hand although I may or may not have done that in the moment
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06-05-2019 , 01:22 PM
June got off to a not so fantastic start.

We were able to get into an overnight game with two players trying to give it away. Both players playing 100/10, and we're up about a buyin and a half before the wheels start to fall of.

We pick up Q Q to 20 6 handed, and both VIP's call, one from the HJ and the other in the SB.

We go three ways to a flop of J 4 2 and SB checks. We wager 45, the HJ folds and the SB calls. The turn is the K and this time SB leads for 65. We have an easy call, and get the 6 on the river. This time he bets 100, and we have a call. Unfortuantely he gets there OTR with the classic 35o.

A few orbits later, we pick up T T :spade from MP and open to 20. same V from last hand calls once again in the SB and we go heads up to a flop of 5 3 2 . He checks and we bet 30, he calls.

The turn is the 9 and this time he leads for 45. We raise to 140, and he calls. The turn is the worst card in the deck, the 6 and he leads for 175. We sign fold, and he brags that he was already there on the flop .

We're able to still book a small win when we get a gift from the ofther 100 VPIP player when we gii on K85 with 88 vs K5o and hold. There is still some justice in the world.

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We get up and get into what may have been the best possible game on a Tuesday morning. Two different players playing 100/0, but it doesn't go much better.

Played one hand terribly which I deserved to lose to the VIP.

7 way to a flop, we check T 3 "club: in the BB and see a flop of T 5 2 . We bet 15, and both VIP's call. The turn is the Q which I'm not too concerned with, and bet 40. first VIP folds, other calls.

The river is the 9 and he hope to get a a showdown and check. VIP bets 100, and we call and lose to Q9o

Then, after being unable to show down a winner for awhole and being stuck a buyin, we potentially show some tilt when we open A J from MP to 20, and get both VIP's to call.

Flop comes J 8 7 vip who got us with q9o checks, and we wager 35. other VIP folds, and first one calls. the turn is the 9 and we check after he checks to us. The river is the J and we wager 75 and he c/r to 150. We pay it off and get the bad news when he shows ATo.

We're able to win a pot, now only stuck a buyin on the day again when we pick up 5 5 in MP1, and overlimp two bad players who limp before us. 100/0 VIP OTB comes along as well as do the blinds and we go 6 way to a flop of 7 5 3 . Blinds check, other VIP who limper UTG bets 25, othe limper calls, we raise to 110. Second VIP cold calls OTB and everyone else folds.

295 in the middle, we decide to wager 210 with 330 behind on the 9 turn. He calls again and we get the A on the river. a seemingly ok card for us, we jam for 330 and he snaps it off with 86o for a turned straight.

Wasn't meant to be for us today.

gl all.

Hours: 9.5/100
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06-08-2019 , 04:11 PM
Put in a 9.5 hour session on Thursday.

Ended up stuck about ~500 about halfway through. Wasn’t able to turn over a winning hand, but stuck to the plan and stayed focus.

First interesting hand - we’re 6 handed and open A 3 from the CO to 20. Only the SB calls and we go heads up to a flop of Q T 5 V leads out for 40, and we have a pretty simple call and get the J OTT.

This time v leads leads for 60, and we call again. The river is the 9 and he checks. We decide to go for the bluff and wager 110 (maybe a bit small).

He goes deep into the tank and after a minute and cuts out the chips to call. I hear him mutter “this is such a bad call” and he looks at the board again. I let him know that I will show if he folds and he thinks for another minute and finally lays it down.

We lose a bunch of standard hands and get to 500, win a few decent pots and we’re just barely stuck when we look down at good old A A . Guy playing 100/5 raises the BTN to 25 over two limps. We pump it up to 110 from the BB and only he calls.

We go to a flop of 9 7 6 . We lead for 75 and he quickly calls. The turn is the 6 . we bet 125, and he quickly calls again. The river is the 5 and we decide to go for the super thin value from bad two pairs, and bet 75. He calls and we’re good.

Two hands later we pick up T T in the CO and a player here clearly just having fun opens to 25 with 450 behind. We bump it up to 85 and only he calls.

We get the beauty K T 3. We get even better news when he leads for 125. We jam, and he beats us into the pot with a call with KQ, and we hold.

We’re up a good chunk and the game gets down to 3 handed for an hour. Both of these players had clear leaks playing short and we took advantage. Playing 2/5/T As all of us are straddling the button and we open A 7 to 40 from the SB. BB calls and BTN folds.

We get a delightful flop of A 9 2 . Due to our history with v we have a clear strategy for this hand. We check, and he wagers 60. We call.

The turn is the 6 and it goes x/x. The river is the K and we check. He thinks for 20 seconds, bets 125 and we snap it off and are good.

Built this little baby up, before losing a few hundred back once the game eventually became full again. Booked a solid ~210bb win.



Gl all



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06-11-2019 , 09:43 AM
Back-To-Back

Got in a 3.5 hour session over the weekend that ended up being a little derailed right before arriving. 75 miles away from home, right as I pulled up to the casino my car started having some serious shaking issues. Had to drive back going 40 mph on the highway at 3 am but eventually made it back. Turns out it was a faulty ignition coil that overheated and was causing the engine to misfire. Fortunately, that and the spark plug that had to be changed were under warranty and got this fixed yesterday.

On to the session - this one began hot for us right off the bat (new table, so everyone in the hand is 500 eff.) We open UTG with A K to 20, and get two calls in the field. the SB who is a 3bet happy player makes it 100. We flat, and the other two players call as well.

We get a delightful flop of K 6 2 and SB checks. We bet small, 130 planning to GII on all turns. Unfortunately, everyone folds and we take it down uncontested.

Next orbit, with the straddle on we pick up A K and make it 30 to go from the CO. BB, and straddle both call and we go to a flop of A K 3 . They both check to me and I decide to check this one back to induce. The turn is the A giving us even more of the world. BB checks, S bets 15, we just call and the BB calls as well. The river is a good card for us, the Q as some more hands will make strong hands.

Once again, the BB checks, and this time the S bets 55 with 400 behind. The BB has 800 behind which becomes important when we decide to go for it all and announce all in. BB asks for a count which ends up just barely covering, 824. He goes deep into the tank. After about two minutes he finally cuts the call out and slides it in. S folds and we turn over our hand and scoop the big pot.

It wasn't all fun and games with AK. Played one last hand after we were cruising all day. two limps, and we make it 35 to go with A K OTB. SB and limper both call (both villains playing something like 90/10)

We get a good looking K 9 5 flop. They both check to me and we bet 75. Both players call and we see a Q OTT. they check to me again and we bet 150. the SB jams for 100 more, and limper folds. We make the call and are drawing dead against 55 .

Lastly, we pick up A A in the SB, and one of the 90/10 players makes it 25 to go over a limp in the CO. We raise to 110 in the SB, and it folds around to him. We have $1,700 and he has us covered. He makes it huge, 450 to go, and we end up jamming. To our delight, he snaps it off!

Unfortunately, he rolls over A A and we chop up the $3400



One final interesting hand I played which may be butchered but looking for some feedback.

Two limps, we raise Q J to 25 from CO.
two v's from above hands playing 90/10 call (BTN, HJ)

Flop (80) Q 9 3
x we 40, call call

Turn (200) 4
x, we 80, call call

River (440) 8
x, we x, v jams 170, other v calls. Hero?


June hours: 22/100
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06-16-2019 , 10:29 AM
Around the clock

And we exited the arena; battered, but not defeated.

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Played somewhat of an epic session this week. This time we started on the later end, and it ended up being a loooong one.

1 am:
Five hours into the session, not much has happened on our end. We’re hovering between marginally stuck and even, but the game has begun to get short. We’re now 6 handed with a straddle on and we look down at 8 8 in the CO. V limps the HJ and we bump it to 50. Only v calls and we go heads up to a flop of

7 6 5

V checks to us with 270 behind. We bet 70 into 110, and v jams. We snap it off and miss 10 outs against 7 7 .

4am:

The game is now 4 handed 2/5/T. we’re in for $1500 and have just topped off again to 500. No huge hands, but we’ve ran into a few monsters 4 handed, and have been caught bluffing once as well. Regardless, we’re playing with 3 people who have ZERO clue how to play 4 handed, a format luckily we’re quite dominate with from our online days.

5am:

Playing 3 handed 2/5/T

We end up winning a decent sized pot when we bet an overpair 3 times and get a gold on the river. Few small pots and we’re only stuck 500, when we look down at A J in the BB and open to 30 after the SB folds. BTN (straddle) calls.

Flop: 9 9 9

We bet 20, and villain calls. The turn seems to be the best card in the deck, the A . V is known to punt off so we’ll let him. We check and he bets small though, 50. We call and check again on a Q river. He bets 130 and we snap it off, and he flips over the case 9 . I let out a little sigh and grab the nearest rack and complain that it seems like it will be that kind of day.

As I’m racking up, I’m playing the BTN straddle and pick up 9 9 750 eff with the other two players, they both cover. SB blind raise to 30 and BB calls. We make it 100 to go. SB folds and BB calls.

It looks like our night had immediate turnaround potential when we see the 9 in the window.

A 9 4 . V checks and we bet 50. V quickly calls and we get the J OTT. v checks again and we fire 175. V thinks for 10 seconds and check jams. We snap and hold on the 2 river against AJ for a little cooler to get back to even.

6am:

I obviously tell them I can’t hit and run after that hand and end up staying a bit longer. We end up winning a medium with pot with Q Q after a v jammed his last 200 pre on a K high board runout.

We play one last interesting hand around 7 am. The game is now 4 handed and we pick up 8 9 on the BTN, and raise to 40 after CO limped. All three players call and we head 4 way to a flop of 8 9 J .

Checks to us and we wager 75. All three players call again and we get the 6 OTT. Sb and bb check, and CO jams for 250. We make the tough fold with two behind us.

8am:
And we exited the arena; battered, but not defeated

gl all


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