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SERIOUS POST TODAY
So it is the 1st day of the 14 and I am absolutely certain that if I don't do a challenge thread this year then its a mistake and I should just quit SSPLO now and better spend my time elsewhere. This could still prove the case this year but I want to know I gave Omaha 110% and it beat me. Whilst still manning a full time job, manning the wife and leading the kids. I really kick myself that when I first encountered online poker I didn't take it more seriously, take a break from employment and immerse myself in the challenge to be The GOAT when I had zero responsibilities, i.e. bills, mortgage, life commitments. It would've been nice to get bankrolled for life and then settle down knowing that I don't have to answer to an employer or the banks and I could give my fam more life options and spend more time with them at a young age. Hey ho, things always happen for a reason and I have life on lock now compared to most and.. what the hell... maybe i'll just retire into the poker game when i'm like 40-45... and grind with views like the below from a holiday rental!!


THE CHALLENGE
[ ] Make Poker work for me*
[ ] Crush PLO Zoom (Hence z in thread title)
[ ] Keep my PGC14 sooo bad that it becomes good
[ ] Play 1 Million hands
[ ] Smash Supernova
[ ] Learn NLO8 (Hypers + Zoom)
[ ] Run 40x stairs before every sess


TRACKING PERFORMANCE
One of my Heros of PLO**, Roy from team Pstars (the other 2 are Odd_Oddsen and GGARJ) has a couple decent blogs, at one of them he talks about tracking your life (Roy: Life Tracking link), which actually makes a tonne of sense. There is also generally a lot of information around this type of thing on the Interwobs. So the way I intend to break down my objective for this year, is that "The Challenge" compromises of my run above AIEV targets and my life tracking spreadsheet is an indicator of my daily goals that will contribute towards achieving the challenge. I'm not gonna post the spreadsheet results up in here very often but below is a screenshot of what currently feels most important. I will keep this fluid and be prepared to adjust it as necessary.


LASTLY
Let me leave you with this thought from Enter the Dragon, 1973. We are all ready to win, just as we are born knowing only life. It is defeat that you must learn to prepare for


Much ,
Regards, Tops

* I still need to talk about this properly
** Gonna do a post on why these guys are my Heros of PLO at some point

Good idea ^

GL bro, will follow ofc coz u play NHLE +2 cards

Cheers, thanks and gl to you too

Also i pretty much just stole the idea from Roy so credit where credit due!

by the way if you're looking to get in shape, the H&F forum is ridiculously available. Theres alot of people who help alot, and get on your ass if you start to get lazy etc. Really reccomend posting there if thats something thats important to you

Cheers bro

Welcome back to the real world. Hope you had a good cabin break. You know what. I might just have to do that re posting in the h forum. Im just trying to keep things it simple tho in that front... like jus run up and down house stairs before every session. No weights. Ni gym. No circuit just straight instant workout

Okay, was meant to start my first session of the year this weekend but my chit got fakkered these last few days, will prob start the year on Thursday now.

Meh, I need to start 8tabling x2pools of zoom asap. Will prob do my heros of plo and making poker work for you/me write ups tomo and then its all about the grind, the volume, beating games from an updates perspective




Plans for January*
[ ] Rig up my desktop so I can grind from it
[ ] Rinse PT4 trial license, then purchase full package
[ ] Aim for 100K in volume for the last 3 weeks on January
[ ] Build a waterproof nitrange for every position
[ ] Segment each seat range by subsets and create a reference library
[ ] Create PPT syntax ranges for each library subset for sims
[ ] Start color coding zoom player pools asap, align PT4 hud
[ ] Work towards 8 tabling zoom asap
[ ] Get a Spotify account for grind music
[ ] Post 5 spots that troubled me in 2x forums by EOM
[ ] Continue to plan but start executing plans as well

Update by 31st.

* I wont ever post montly goals in here, but i will post plans for each month to help me achieve my yearly goals

Cabin was sick but cold as ****. NYE was about -31 C and the day before went snowmobiling when it was around -27 C, got very mild frostbite :P..

Post there, start a log or ask in beginner thread. People know their stuff. But running up and down house stairs will do very little if you're trying to lose weight. Work on food and weight lifting def helps. Post around in h F and you'll get alot of help

Also don't think anything wrong with weekly/monthly goals

Snowmobiling sounds amaze and worth some frostbite, lool

I will deffo start a thread there to see what they say.
Stairs = simplicity rly + to wake me up for the session after a hard days work grind.

Yeh I didnt word that monthly goal caveat very well in the above post. My point was that in theory I should never have a new goal from my annual goals, as they should not change at any point throughout the year.

My monthly plans (or objectives) are to work towards those annual goals already set out. It's hard to explain, but its basically the principle of never moving your own goalposts... I saw a "will it make the boat go faster" documentary once that explains it really well. Its turned into a bit of a gimmicky business thing now... as below.... and i cant find the video i saw but its just the case of what is your one question that you should ask yourself ever time your doing something to achieve your goal. If you have too many goals its spew. So monthly "plans" or "list of stuff to do" is better imo

8-tabling Zoom is the most ridic reason for mixing stakes (as opposed to the lack of decent reg tables at a single limit, which is the normal reason; I for one am mixing stakes that differ 10 times, just because the iPoker traffic is a bit scarce at the late hours when I finally persuade myself to grind). Either 4-table more focused... or make SNE mixing 25 and 50 (I'd tell you to do it at 10 and 25 if you didn't have a family). Being a megaexploitable bot with merely SN RB sucks big time.

Not mixing pools based on any opponent driven factors, ie more fish or anything like that. Merely just to get reads on regular attendees quicker for away from the table work. Plus 8 is ambitious at the very least. Also one of the pools could be zoom NLO8... you never know!!

And no way do i have sufficient time or tha cohonas to try to make SNE this year unless i run ridiculously super well, i'll need to epically move up to 200/500 from 25 to do that imo. im just tryin to optimise my time, we are all rake machines at he end of the day unless we own a poker site!!!

I don't plan to be a nit forever, its just my starting approach that will be built upon. Also getting tagged as a nit will be fun for later on!! I think the mistake i made last time i tried plo was not nitting up to begin with... and jumping in too wide with little volume.

2014 has taken a crazy hectic start on a non-poker front, so no major developments to update poker wise. I've mainly just be working on PPT ranges, in every spare moment that I have for poker. Will hopefully get my game off the ground from tomorrow onward,

For those of you that have me on Skype, sorry I've not being around lately i'm just too busy at the moment. But all should settle down from the weekend onward.

Boook itttttt


(Pitta.. you see where the info box is? I'm zenning outta control in here )

First session of the year out of the way and booked a profit. Yess. Was only 2 tabling, trying to just acclimatize to the games. I realized that there's no point constructing all these intricate ranges unless I am going to memorize them which is going to be a huge pain when it comes to PLO. But oh well. Do work and that. Grind hard, study harder (lol 500hands loltops).

I also feel like it i'm going to struggle to not stab/spew without a showdown in certain spots at 5plo and 10plo... but gonna try and be disciplined... we'll see what happens!! Can't wait till i get some solid reads on a few regs.

Stars color coding system below, gonna start tagging players at 100, 300, 750, 1000 hands.


Here's an errr interesting hand, pretty trivial hand but interested in any thoughts!!

BTN: 236.6 BB
Hero (SB): 125.2 BB
BB: 528.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
UTG: 200.8 BB
MP: 55.4 BB
CO: 180 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A J 7 5

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 9 7 9
Hero bets 4 BB, BB calls 4 BB

Turn: (14 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, BB bets 8 BB, Hero calls 8 BB

River: (30 BB, 2 players) J
Hero checks, BB bets 22 BB, Hero??

c/c on turn makes you clueless on river. for turn I either b/f or c/f (if villian is tight), or c-r bluff. River is a clear fold. for preflop i rather just make it 2bb also. =)

but nice to start in profit dude =) and btw, is alien a good lag or ******ed bad lag?

Hey Tynne, hope you've been training good? Alien is just a super fish with zero plo knowledge, say compared to an "aware" calling station fish. I think there's a big difference between the two. Yeah I hate my line on above board, mostly turn though, what sorta range does villain have on river??? Even tho we havent narrowed his range by b/f turn and whats the difference between both ranges??

Played another ~500 hands today at 5ploZ as its hard to grind on my laptop with more than 2 tables. Generally the regs are pretty tight imo, with the odd bit of value here and there. Prob gonna play 1K at 10plo zoom over the weekend and by then hopefully my desktop will be sorted so I can grind some volume from the poverty stool.

Have marked some hands for rreview, will try and post them later once the nipper finally decides to fall aleep

unfortunately not. roommate is a bit sick and i got a little of it too.. .:/


I hope you find many aliens =) I've seen a few of them in 5ploZ.


I'd say boats, 9xxx to overpairs like AAxx to JJxx(u block some of those combos tho), also AA and KKs wud be 3betted mostly. Either way I think its a clear fold OTR. one more thought about it he could possible have 8Txx too if hes a nuub ((im not sure on the level of thinking of plo5 players tho')) trying to steal pot OTT and ZOMG I HIT OTR.

for range differences. I think he could fold out overpair, fd, str8draw, fd+str8d if u b turn and stick with 9xxx. Also gives you opportunity to tripplebarrel even tho its a bad spot OOP. also get value/he may check down, when u complete flush.

dont need to think that much about the hand imo... most likely a 9x/boat.
in plo5 i would avoid taking risks like these and play it simple. OTT either B/f c/f(hope to hit flush maybe) or c/r/f to fakk them.. =)

make sense you think?
poverty stool will bring sick heather. And im waiting for hhs!!!

Sucks about not being well, i bet it must be a bitch trying to train when your under the weather!! The kid just wouldn;t settle last night so gave up on postin any strat hands, will prob just post them in ssplo and link them in here for simplicity.

Yar, deffo, your explanation makes sense, and I hate my c/c line on turn. Generally speaking I hate my overall line... but when we do c/c I think a tonne of his b/f fold range that whiffs the river will stab, and the 8 into 14 was soo faceup I couldn't help myself!!! You were dead close with the T8xx




That said, I seriously need to stop tryingn to hero call in some spots when I'm right like 20% of the time, it feels sooo good when I make a spazherocall and i'm right but, then again at <50plo this could be a big leak. Everytime I do a failed herocall i'm going to post it in here as bad hand to remind me that I'm burning money like >50% of the time.

SB: 584.2 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
Hero (BB): 124.2 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 8 2 K 9

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) T 7 J
SB bets 4 BB, Hero raises to 15.2 BB, SB calls 11.2 BB
Turn: (36.4 BB, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero bets 32.8 BB, SB calls 32.8 BB
River: (102 BB, 2 players) 7
SB bets 49 BB, Hero calls 49 BB

SB shows 4 Q J J (Full House, Jacks full of Sevens) (Pre 55%, Flop 39%, Turn 25%)
Hero mucks 8 2 K 9 (Straight, Jack High) (Pre 45%, Flop 61%, Turn 75%)
SB wins 192.2 BB

And here's my worst hand of the night from yesterday. I shouldn't even be playing topgappers even when they are double suited as i'm spose to be nitting up. In pre, i shouldn't have been in the hand, post I just wanted to backdoor outer villain cause i got involved pre when i should've just folded the prettyness... such a ****** bet/call on my part.

Hero (MP): 104.2 BB
CO: 153.6 BB (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9 T 8 Q

UTG raises to 3.4 BB, Hero raises to 11.6 BB, CO calls 11.6 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 8.2 BB

Flop: (36.2 BB, 3 players) J K Q
UTG checks, Hero bets 26 BB, CO raises to 112.8 BB, fold, Hero calls 66.6 BB and is all-in
Turn: (221.4 BB, 2 players) K
River: (221.4 BB, 2 players) 4

Hero shows 9 T 8 Q (Straight, King High) (Pre 45%, Flop 14%, Turn 4%)
CO shows 7 T J A (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 55%, Flop 86%, Turn 96%)
CO wins 212.8 BB

haha nice that you were right that time!

I face the same problems myself... talking myself into herocalling too much.

about str8 vs FH call I think it was okey played. I mean. good price and he could have fd combos with str8s or 2p. I think its ok if villian isnt very nitty! =)

About the last hand idk. hard to get away imo. I'd still play that hand and maybe even 3b it even tho its an uppergapper. But i see your point if u wanna nitty it up now. impossible to get away in 4b pot, in 3b pott maybe., glgl

Cheers, Yeah i got lucky i think, still hate my line, felt good about it afterwards until i realized how ******ed the turn was!! I'm obv playing those uppergappers and 3betting them in late position. I just think its a ****ty MP3B v UTG to gii on flop as we get pwnd like this v often with better runs.

Played some 10ploZ toninght, ran pretty hot which helped. Tried to just avoid that many 3bet/4bet pots as didn't wanna play hands with low SPRs have to stack off loads/runbad - wouldnt be a good start to the year so was pretty conservative in re-raised pots!! Just wanted to get an idea how different 5 and 10 played, pretty similar really just alot more squeezing going on.

I was doing alright until I had to go be a parent!! I think the kid did me a favour though, you can distinctly see when I came back to finish off my 1K 10plo. The pool dried up from like 300odd players to like 210-180.. full of regs and nits and I started getting abused by them due to my lack of depth 3bet/5bet ranges and a solid 4bet range. Basically, stuff that I want to refine at 5nl, I just dont wanna play in a dry pool on a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and get destroyed like that whilst I work things out. and luckily my session ended badly else i think i'd be starting off at 10.




So yep, the plan is to grind 5plo for a bit, i'm rolled for 10plo easily and target is to mix 10plo/25plo during primetime asap with a solid game. This is where i think i'll get the most hourly. Once I feel like I have a good base strategy for beating the zoom pools I'll start mixing 10plo into my 5game but for now gonna stick to 5plo. Also need to get that barstard desktop running. And get some help to create an AHK script that flips my mouse cursor from left screen to right screen and vice versa to manage >4 zoom Tables easily.

Cheers, Be lucky.

Hm that for "AHK script that flips my mouse cursor from left screen to right screen and vice versa" it is interesting. I know that there is AHK scipts for a lot of things but I dont even think that there is a such one

Do u SN outed on PS? I play PLO10 zoom so we can play together and hf then

Yeah, shouldn't be hard to make one and keep my mouse movement down to a minimum but within a certain pixel point on each screen.

Not rly, but it wouldn't take a genius to work it out so I'm not really fussed.

No idea what this last bit means . But its dog eat dog at the tables man!!!

Not much to say tonight, just that i need to get my desktop runnin asap to put in some serious volume if i wanna hit 100K this month. Hopefully it'll be ready to go this week.

5plo going okay, I still feel like i have loads of spots where i need to studyup. But going okay so far but lolsamplesize.

Got troubled by this spot tonight...http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=6334 .... interested to hear opinions.

Also 10plo killed my redline, damnit.



Thats all i got for tonight.

Laters

When someone play vs me I want all the luck to me and hf me and vills

Haha. Sorry im too lucky. And I always have 100% of me

Going well so far, on for serious grinding from Thursday onwards as well. Results soo far, hopefully i continue to run as good when i start 4 tabling. When I envisage downswing will begin.



Also, some face rape butt hurt river pain below. Such a gross spot, had to be an Ace as well...

PokerStars - $0.05 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hand 1

BB: 161.4 BB (VPIP: 13.13, PFR: 5.05, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 100)
Hero (UTG): 193.6 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J K A A

Hero raises to 3.4 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 3.4 BB, SB calls 3 BB, BB calls 2.4 BB

Flop: (13.6 BB, 4 players) Q T 9
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 9.6 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 9.6 BB

Turn: (32.8 BB, 2 players) K
BB checks, Hero bets 31.6 BB, BB calls 31.6 BB

River: (96 BB, 2 players) A
BB bets 92.2 BB, fold

Also, some face rape butt hurt river pain below. Such a gross spot, had to be an Ace as well...

PokerStars - $0.05 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hand 1

BB: 161.4 BB (VPIP: 13.13, PFR: 5.05, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 100)
Hero (UTG): 193.6 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J K A A

Hero raises to 3.4 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 3.4 BB, SB calls 3 BB, BB calls 2.4 BB

Flop: (13.6 BB, 4 players) Q T 9
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 9.6 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 9.6 BB

Turn: (32.8 BB, 2 players) K
BB checks, Hero bets 31.6 BB, BB calls 31.6 BB

River: (96 BB, 2 players) A
BB bets 92.2 BB, fold[/QUOTE]

GL with your goals OP. I have been reading along. I think fold on river is a must at PLO 5. if the villain could read hands I think it would be obvious you had a straight, sometimes if I was villain with the same straight but no flush I would donk river in to you.