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01-16-2013 , 07:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pitapita
Didn't play at all yesterday and only a few hands today, but have been working on my game.



Hand 1: Villain is 21/19 with 15.9% 3bet over 156 hands. I don't think I can get very much value from anything on the flop, the hands that will call me are KK and QQ and they probably only call 1 street anyways, and there aren't any draws so I can check and go for a value bet later while getting more value when he has junk and he bluffs. The river cuts down both our strong hands which means he could be betting with worse a lot, either with junk if he has a suited connector or with KK or QQ if he thinks those are good now.
    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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    Hero (BTN): $29.89 (119.6 bb)
    SB: $25.23 (100.9 bb)
    BB: $29.22 (116.9 bb)
    UTG+1: $36.31 (145.2 bb)
    UTG+2: $25.69 (102.8 bb)
    MP1: $26.71 (106.8 bb)
    MP2: $36.67 (146.7 bb)
    MP3: $23.55 (94.2 bb)
    CO: $27.89 (111.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with A 4
    6 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB folds, BB raises to $2.25, Hero raises to $5.50, BB calls $3.25

    Flop: ($11.10) J A 8 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($11.10) 3 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks

    River: ($11.10) A (2 players)
    BB bets $10.25, Hero calls $10.25

    Spoiler:
    Results: $31.60 pot ($1.42 rake)
    Final Board: J A 8 3 A
    Hero showed A 4 and won $30.18 ($14.43 net)
    BB showed K 9 and lost (-$15.75 net)


    I think betting the flop is a must here since you would do that with all your bluffs too. Of course there is not that much gonna call you but I dont think that he is gonna bluff insanely that much. KQ/QT/KT all probably call flop too. Any Jx QQ/KK and all the Ax. I would bet really small though.
    Also your range is face upt to either hands that gave up, weak Ax-AT or KK/QQ so if he was good he is going bet 5,5 turn and ship river (if it wasnt an A ofc) giving you pretty hard decision and again let him play really well against your range.

    Hand 2: Flushes, sets, Kx are a huge part of his range
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      BTN: $11.45 (45.8 bb)
      SB: $25 (100 bb)
      BB: $20.32 (81.3 bb)
      Hero (UTG+1): $25 (100 bb)
      UTG+2: $25 (100 bb)
      MP1: $12.01 (48 bb)
      MP2: $87.60 (350.4 bb)
      MP3: $22.63 (90.5 bb)
      CO: $23.80 (95.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A A
      Hero raises to $0.75, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0.75, CO calls $0.75, 2 folds, BB calls $0.50

      Flop: ($3.10) K 5 T (4 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks, MP3 bets $1.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.25

      Turn: ($5.60) 7 (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP3 bets $4, Hero calls $4

      River: ($13.60) K (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP3 bets $6.25, Hero folds

      Spoiler:
      Results: $13.60 pot ($0.61 rake)
      Final Board: K 5 T 7 K
      Hero mucked A A and lost (-$6 net)
      MP3 mucked and won $12.99 ($6.99 net)


      I would much rather prefer checking this flop if we have the A now we are going to play a guessing game on the turn and river and he can play almost perfectly since our range is just Kx, AA and maybe some QQ + fd or JT with J However river was a good fold imo

      Hand 3: Villain is 21/9. I'm not sure if I should bet turn, his range is pretty much KQ and pairs but I don't know if he's folding 99-QQ.
        Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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        Hero (BTN): $38.70 (154.8 bb)
        SB: $12.50 (50 bb)
        BB: $12.85 (51.4 bb)
        UTG+1: $9.81 (39.2 bb)
        UTG+2: $10.67 (42.7 bb)
        MP1: $15.65 (62.6 bb)
        MP2: $18.82 (75.3 bb)
        MP3: $12.89 (51.6 bb)
        CO: $22.75 (91 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BTN with A J
        UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.25, 3 folds, CO raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.75, 3 folds, CO calls $2

        Flop: ($6.10) K 2 8 (2 players)
        CO checks, Hero bets $3.50, CO calls $3.50

        Turn: ($13.10) 8 (2 players)
        CO checks, Hero checks

        River: ($13.10) 3 (2 players)
        CO checks, Hero checks

        Spoiler:
        Results: $13.10 pot ($0.59 rake)
        Final Board: K 2 8 8 3
        Hero mucked A J and lost (-$6.25 net)
        CO showed Q Q and won $12.51 ($6.26 net)
        Either 3 barrel or bet once imo. Dont really see the point in 3betting pre. AJs is a fine hand and we want to keep the fish in the pot right...
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        01-16-2013 , 10:47 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by harrygehakt
        Either 3 barrel or bet once imo. Dont really see the point in 3betting pre. AJs is a fine hand and we want to keep the fish in the pot right...
        You're right, I don't know what I'm doing preflop.



        Hand 4: Villain is 20/13. I should have raised river, there's only $4 left and he can't ever fold.
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          Hero (BTN): $25 (100 bb)
          SB: $12.66 (50.6 bb)
          BB: $23 (92 bb)
          UTG+1: $39.16 (156.6 bb)
          UTG+2: $25.16 (100.6 bb)
          MP1: $94.65 (378.6 bb)
          MP2: $27.98 (111.9 bb)
          MP3: $24.65 (98.6 bb)
          CO: $25 (100 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BTN with 3 K
          6 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB folds, BB calls $0.50

          Flop: ($1.60) 6 K Q (2 players)
          BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB calls $1

          Turn: ($3.60) A (2 players)
          BB checks, Hero bets $2.50, BB raises to $6, Hero calls $3.50

          River: ($15.60) K (2 players)
          BB bets $11.25, Hero calls $11.25

          Spoiler:
          Results: $38.10 pot ($1.71 rake)
          Final Board: 6 K Q A K
          Hero showed 3 K and won $36.39 ($17.39 net)
          BB showed 7 6 and lost (-$19 net)


          Hand 5: Just realized this is the same opponent as the last hand. I'm not sure what to do preflop.
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            BTN: $84.11 (336.4 bb)
            SB: $25 (100 bb)
            BB: $34.03 (136.1 bb)
            UTG+1: $15.53 (62.1 bb)
            UTG+2: $26.54 (106.2 bb)
            MP1: $30.46 (121.8 bb)
            MP2: $50.43 (201.7 bb)
            Hero (MP3): $25 (100 bb)
            CO: $39.91 (159.6 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A K
            UTG+1 raises to $1.50, 3 folds, Hero raises to $4.50, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls $3

            Flop: ($9.35) 5 J A (2 players)
            UTG+1 bets $11.03 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.03

            Turn: ($31.41) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
            River: ($31.41) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

            Spoiler:
            Results: $31.41 pot ($1.41 rake)
            Final Board: 5 J A 6 Q
            UTG+1 showed 5 5 and won $30 ($14.47 net)
            Hero showed A K and lost (-$15.53 net)


            Hand 6: Villain is 15/13 and BTN and BB both 3bet a lot.
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              BTN: $25.55 (102.2 bb)
              SB: $25.10 (100.4 bb)
              BB: $9.20 (36.8 bb)
              UTG+1: $55.66 (222.6 bb)
              UTG+2: $82.94 (331.8 bb)
              MP1: $24.22 (96.9 bb)
              MP2: $9.98 (39.9 bb)
              MP3: $17.07 (68.3 bb)
              Hero (CO): $25 (100 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is CO with A A
              3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.75, MP3 folds, Hero calls $0.75, 3 folds

              Flop: ($1.85) Q T 5 (2 players)
              MP2 bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

              Turn: ($4.85) 5 (2 players)
              MP2 bets $3.50, Hero raises to $8.50, MP2 calls $4.23 and is all-in

              River: ($20.31) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

              Spoiler:
              Results: $20.31 pot ($0.91 rake)
              Final Board: Q T 5 5 9
              MP2 showed K Q and lost (-$9.98 net)
              Hero showed A A and won $19.40 ($9.42 net)
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              01-17-2013 , 12:05 AM
              Hand 1: wp. I think checking back the flop is def the best option.

              Hand 2: Not much else you can do.

              Hand 3: You can def check it back but i would bet the turn. I dont think he will c/r in this spot alot. He almost always has a pocketpair or a king here. By betting you represent a strong hand and he should fold all his pocket pairs.
              If not you still have a lot of equity. You have atleast 1 overcard and a flushdraw everytime (close to 40%). And you keep yourself the possibilty to bluff the river if you miss.
              If you check here and bet the river he prob will call with any pair.

              Hand 4: I def wouldnt raise all in here. His bet is polarized to hands that beat you and air. Hes never doing this with an ace 4 value. I dont see value is raising.

              Hand 5: Preflop i think your raise is good. I would raise less preflop cause you are IP and he has a small stack that you will get anyways if you hit. Another reason i would raise here is that hes prob not that good (62BB stack) and we want to isolate him.

              Hand 6: I really like your call here preflop. Flop and turn are played good aswell although i think i would raise flop. WP
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              01-17-2013 , 01:09 PM
              Quote:
              Originally Posted by Cassim
              Hand 1: wp. I think checking back the flop is def the best option.

              Hand 2: Not much else you can do.

              Hand 3: You can def check it back but i would bet the turn. I dont think he will c/r in this spot alot. He almost always has a pocketpair or a king here. By betting you represent a strong hand and he should fold all his pocket pairs.
              If not you still have a lot of equity. You have atleast 1 overcard and a flushdraw everytime (close to 40%). And you keep yourself the possibilty to bluff the river if you miss.
              If you check here and bet the river he prob will call with any pair.

              Hand 4: I def wouldnt raise all in here. His bet is polarized to hands that beat you and air. Hes never doing this with an ace 4 value. I dont see value is raising.

              Hand 5: Preflop i think your raise is good. I would raise less preflop cause you are IP and he has a small stack that you will get anyways if you hit. Another reason i would raise here is that hes prob not that good (62BB stack) and we want to isolate him.

              Hand 6: I really like your call here preflop. Flop and turn are played good aswell although i think i would raise flop. WP
              Hand 4: I think his value range has some AQ and A6 in it, otherwise I'm folding the river.
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              01-18-2013 , 03:10 PM
              Hand 7: Villain is 12/6 over 17 hands. The whole hand is on my blog with gifs.
              Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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              BTN: $23.15 (92.6 bb)
              SB: $25 (100 bb)
              BB: $35.31 (141.2 bb)
              UTG+1: $25 (100 bb)
              UTG+2: $25 (100 bb)
              MP1: $33.99 (136 bb)
              MP2: $12.25 (49 bb)
              MP3: $17.77 (71.1 bb)
              Hero (CO): $25 (100 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 9
              2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.75, 2 folds, BB calls $0.50

              Flop: ($2.35) 5 9 T (3 players)
              BB bets $1.50, MP1 folds, Hero calls $1.50

              Turn: ($5.35) 5 (2 players)
              BB bets $5, Hero calls $5

              Hand 8: Villain is 25/6/12.5 3bet over 16 hands
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                BTN: $23.60 (94.4 bb)
                SB: $62.38 (249.5 bb)
                BB: $20.67 (82.7 bb)
                UTG+1: $35.31 (141.2 bb)
                Hero (UTG+2): $35.70 (142.8 bb)
                MP1: $21.68 (86.7 bb)
                MP2: $14.53 (58.1 bb)
                MP3: $21.51 (86 bb)
                CO: $42.75 (171 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 7 7
                UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 3 folds, CO calls $0.75, 2 folds, BB calls $0.50

                Flop: ($2.35) A 7 9 (3 players)
                BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50, BB folds

                Turn: ($5.35) K (2 players)
                Hero bets $4, CO raises to $40.50 and is all-in, Hero calls $29.45 and is all-in

                River: ($72.25) Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)

                Spoiler:
                Results: $72.25 pot ($2.00 rake)
                Final Board: A 7 9 K Q
                Hero showed 7 7 and lost (-$35.70 net)
                CO showed 9 9 and won $70.25 ($34.55 net)


                Bustout hand of MiniFTOPS event 29
                Quote:
                Originally Posted by pitapita
                  Full Tilt, 80/160 blinds No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
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                  BTN: 4,349 (27.2 bb)
                  Hero (SB): 1,945 (12.2 bb)
                  BB: 13,620 (85.1 bb)
                  UTG+1: 6,376 (39.9 bb)
                  UTG+2: 6,196 (38.7 bb)
                  MP1: 3,560 (22.3 bb)
                  MP2: 6,841 (42.8 bb)
                  MP3: 3,885 (24.3 bb)
                  CO: 1,350 (8.4 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is SB with Q A
                  2 folds, MP1 raises to 320, 4 folds, Hero raises to 1,945 and is all-in, BB folds, MP1 calls 1,625

                  Flop: (4,050) 7 A T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
                  Turn: (4,050) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
                  River: (4,050) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                  Spoiler:
                  Results: 4,050 pot
                  Final Board: 7 A T 7 Q
                  Hero showed Q A and lost (-1,945 net)
                  MP1 showed A A and won 4,050 (2,105 net)
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                  01-18-2013 , 11:35 PM


                  Hand 9: No hands on villain
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                    BTN: $11.83 (47.3 bb)
                    SB: $11.35 (45.4 bb)
                    BB: $31.70 (126.8 bb)
                    Hero (UTG+1): $26.27 (105.1 bb)
                    UTG+2: $25.45 (101.8 bb)
                    MP1: $25.60 (102.4 bb)
                    MP2: $16.25 (65 bb)
                    MP3: $26.15 (104.6 bb)
                    CO: $28.38 (113.5 bb)

                    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K K
                    Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.75, 5 folds

                    Flop: ($1.85) 4 6 Q (2 players)
                    Hero bets $1.25, MP2 raises to $15.50 and is all-in, Hero calls $14.25

                    Turn: ($32.85) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
                    River: ($32.85) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                    Spoiler:
                    Results: $32.85 pot ($1.48 rake)
                    Final Board: 4 6 Q 3 T
                    Hero showed K K and won $31.37 ($15.12 net)
                    MP2 showed A Q and lost (-$16.25 net)


                    Hand 10:
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                      BTN: $35.38 (141.5 bb)
                      SB: $38.85 (155.4 bb)
                      Hero (BB): $25.92 (103.7 bb)
                      UTG: $25 (100 bb)
                      MP: $11.89 (47.6 bb)
                      CO: $41.18 (164.7 bb)

                      Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
                      UTG raises to $0.70, 2 folds, BTN raises to $2.25, SB raises to $5.75, 3 folds

                      Spoiler:
                      Results: $5.45 pot
                      SB mucked and won $5.45 ($3.20 net)


                      Hand 11: BTN is 19/18/11 3bet and SB is 50/0 over 4 hands. Is my shove right or should I just raise small?
                        Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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                        BTN: $12.50 (50 bb)
                        SB: $19.40 (77.6 bb)
                        BB: $12.67 (50.7 bb)
                        UTG: $60.38 (241.5 bb)
                        MP: $29.85 (119.4 bb)
                        Hero (CO): $39.36 (157.4 bb)

                        Preflop: Hero is CO with A K
                        2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN raises to $1.90, SB calls $1.80, BB folds, Hero raises to $39.36 and is all-in, BTN folds, SB calls $17.50 and is all-in

                        Flop: ($40.95) 3 2 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
                        Turn: ($40.95) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)
                        River: ($40.95) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

                        Spoiler:
                        Results: $40.95 pot ($1.84 rake)
                        Final Board: 3 2 4 T 9
                        SB showed Q J and lost (-$19.40 net)
                        Hero showed A K and won $39.11 ($19.71 net)


                        Hand 12: Villain is 21/16/10 3bet and very aggressive. I'm value betting on the flop and turn and check river to induce a bluff. I expect him to raise AQ or KQ preflop and raise sets and Q9 on the flop so he doesn't have very much that beats me.
                          Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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                          BTN: $40.07 (160.3 bb)
                          Hero (SB): $25.45 (101.8 bb)
                          BB: $25 (100 bb)
                          UTG: $45.70 (182.8 bb)
                          MP: $12.84 (51.4 bb)
                          CO: $13.30 (53.2 bb)

                          Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 A
                          4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50

                          Flop: ($1.50) 9 3 Q (2 players)
                          Hero bets $1, BB calls $1

                          Turn: ($3.50) 6 (2 players)
                          Hero bets $2, BB calls $2

                          River: ($7.50) 5 (2 players)
                          Hero checks, BB bets $5, Hero calls $5

                          Spoiler:
                          Results: $17.50 pot ($0.79 rake)
                          Final Board: 9 3 Q 6 5
                          Hero showed 9 A and won $16.71 ($7.96 net)
                          BB showed K T and lost (-$8.75 net)


                          Hand 13: Villain is 20/18. Should I raise river?
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                            BTN: $22.60 (90.4 bb)
                            SB: $74.99 (300 bb)
                            Hero (BB): $50.77 (203.1 bb)
                            UTG: $58.81 (235.2 bb)
                            MP: $25.66 (102.6 bb)
                            CO: $45.16 (180.6 bb)

                            Preflop: Hero is BB with Q 9
                            4 folds, SB raises to $0.71, Hero calls $0.46

                            Flop: ($1.42) Q Q K (2 players)
                            SB bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

                            Turn: ($3.22) 5 (2 players)
                            SB bets $2.10, Hero calls $2.10

                            River: ($7.42) T (2 players)
                            SB bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50

                            Spoiler:
                            Results: $18.42 pot ($0.83 rake)
                            Final Board: Q Q K 5 T
                            SB showed J A and won $17.59 ($8.38 net)
                            Hero mucked Q 9 and lost (-$9.21 net)
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                            01-19-2013 , 12:18 AM
                            Hey gl to you too man. I've seen your posts before and thought you played a lot higher than 25NL? I don't know your SN but we have probably played each other. Subbed.
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                            01-19-2013 , 01:29 AM
                            Saw you at the tables for the first time today, so thought I'd drop by and say gl
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                            01-19-2013 , 06:45 AM
                            id raise the turn with the Q9.

                            no point playing trips so passively here, obviously you want him to tripple barrel with Air, but i think he shuts down on most rivers anyway, as you arent folding a Q or K on dry rivers most of the time.

                            Also the flush draw came in on turn, which also gives a little more reason to raise, try and build a pot with such a big hand, expect crying calls on the river with Kx
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                            01-19-2013 , 01:25 PM
                            Quote:
                            Originally Posted by LazyAce
                            Hey gl to you too man. I've seen your posts before and thought you played a lot higher than 25NL? I don't know your SN but we have probably played each other. Subbed.
                            I see your posts a lot, I thought you played a lot higher too lol. I was playing higher before but went on a downswing and moved down. My SN is pitabread189, let me know when I stack you

                            Quote:
                            Originally Posted by sm1t
                            Saw you at the tables for the first time today, so thought I'd drop by and say gl
                            Thanks, GL man!

                            Quote:
                            Originally Posted by Craigster1
                            id raise the turn with the Q9.

                            no point playing trips so passively here, obviously you want him to tripple barrel with Air, but i think he shuts down on most rivers anyway, as you arent folding a Q or K on dry rivers most of the time.

                            Also the flush draw came in on turn, which also gives a little more reason to raise, try and build a pot with such a big hand, expect crying calls on the river with Kx
                            Does he call with anything worse if I raise the turn that doesn't put in 1 more bet on the river anyways?

                            Hand 14: Chat leveling
                            PokerStars Hand #92619108995: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2013/01/19 12:09:28 ET
                            Table 'Aldhibah IV' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
                            Seat 1: I_flip4rollz ($25 in chips)
                            Seat 2: PAPAmessi10 ($7.03 in chips)
                            Seat 3: 1NuBIK ($42.94 in chips)
                            Seat 4: gucciguy69 ($26.49 in chips)
                            Seat 5: pitabread189 ($25.18 in chips)
                            Seat 6: misha5912 ($18.95 in chips)
                            Seat 7: Addicted8804 ($28.27 in chips)
                            Seat 8: kinkinpascal ($13.33 in chips)
                            kinkinpascal: posts small blind $0.10
                            latinsimone: is sitting out
                            I_flip4rollz: posts big blind $0.25
                            *** HOLE CARDS ***
                            Dealt to pitabread189 [Ks Kh]
                            latinsimone leaves the table
                            PAPAmessi10: calls $0.25
                            W1zard2008 joins the table at seat #9
                            1NuBIK: folds
                            gucciguy69: folds
                            pitabread189: raises $1 to $1.25
                            misha5912: folds
                            Addicted8804: folds
                            kinkinpascal: folds
                            I_flip4rollz: folds
                            PAPAmessi10: calls $1
                            *** FLOP *** [5c Ac 4s]
                            PAPAmessi10: checks
                            pitabread189 said, "thank you"
                            pitabread189: bets $2
                            PAPAmessi10: calls $2
                            *** TURN *** [5c Ac 4s] [Ad]
                            PAPAmessi10: checks
                            pitabread189: bets $4
                            pitabread189 said, "i have KK"
                            PAPAmessi10: calls $3.78 and is all-in
                            Uncalled bet ($0.22) returned to pitabread189
                            *** RIVER *** [5c Ac 4s Ad] [Th]
                            *** SHOW DOWN ***
                            PAPAmessi10: shows [3d 3c] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
                            pitabread189: shows [Ks Kh] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
                            pitabread189 collected $13.76 from pot
                            *** SUMMARY ***
                            Total pot $14.41 | Rake $0.65
                            Board [5c Ac 4s Ad Th]
                            Seat 1: I_flip4rollz (big blind) folded before Flop
                            Seat 2: PAPAmessi10 showed [3d 3c] and lost with two pair, Aces and Threes
                            Seat 3: 1NuBIK folded before Flop (didn't bet)
                            Seat 4: gucciguy69 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
                            Seat 5: pitabread189 showed [Ks Kh] and won ($13.76) with two pair, Aces and Kings
                            Seat 6: misha5912 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
                            Seat 7: Addicted8804 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
                            Seat 8: kinkinpascal (small blind) folded before Flop
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                            01-19-2013 , 02:12 PM
                            Hand 15:
                            PokerStars Hand #92622401568: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2013/01/19 13:08:36 ET
                            Table 'Aldhibah IV' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
                            Seat 1: pkshin147 ($26.06 in chips)
                            Seat 2: PAPAmessi10 ($10.90 in chips)
                            Seat 3: polh8369 ($10 in chips)
                            Seat 4: gucciguy69 ($31.68 in chips)
                            Seat 5: pitabread189 ($33.51 in chips)
                            Seat 6: misha5912 ($15.64 in chips)
                            Seat 7: IhateUfishh ($25.59 in chips)
                            Seat 8: Ryan Chan998 ($20.18 in chips)
                            Seat 9: W1zard2008 ($39.76 in chips)
                            polh8369: posts small blind $0.10
                            gucciguy69: posts big blind $0.25
                            *** HOLE CARDS ***
                            Dealt to pitabread189 [Qs Qc]
                            pitabread189: raises $0.50 to $0.75
                            misha5912: folds
                            PAPAmessi10 said, "this time i have K k pitabread"
                            IhateUfishh: folds
                            Ryan Chan998: folds
                            W1zard2008: folds
                            pkshin147: folds
                            PAPAmessi10: calls $0.75
                            polh8369: folds
                            gucciguy69: calls $0.50
                            *** FLOP *** [3h 4c 9h]
                            gucciguy69: checks
                            pitabread189: bets $1.50
                            PAPAmessi10: calls $1.50
                            gucciguy69: folds
                            *** TURN *** [3h 4c 9h] [Jd]
                            pitabread189: bets $3.50
                            PAPAmessi10: raises $5.15 to $8.65 and is all-in
                            pitabread189: calls $5.15
                            *** RIVER *** [3h 4c 9h Jd] [2c]
                            *** SHOW DOWN ***
                            pitabread189: shows [Qs Qc] (a pair of Queens)
                            PAPAmessi10: shows [2h Kh] (a pair of Deuces)
                            pitabread189 collected $21.63 from pot
                            *** SUMMARY ***
                            Total pot $22.65 | Rake $1.02
                            Board [3h 4c 9h Jd 2c]
                            Seat 1: pkshin147 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
                            Seat 2: PAPAmessi10 (button) showed [2h Kh] and lost with a pair of Deuces
                            Seat 3: polh8369 (small blind) folded before Flop
                            Seat 4: gucciguy69 (big blind) folded on the Flop
                            Seat 5: pitabread189 showed [Qs Qc] and won ($21.63) with a pair of Queens
                            Seat 6: misha5912 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
                            Seat 7: IhateUfishh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
                            Seat 8: Ryan Chan998 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
                            Seat 9: W1zard2008 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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                            01-19-2013 , 02:17 PM
                            don't you think you should be hiding this guys sn ?
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                            01-19-2013 , 04:41 PM
                            Quote:
                            Originally Posted by HU4hoes
                            don't you think you should be hiding this guys sn ?
                            Yeah, I should be... wanted to show the chat but I guess I could have went through and edited his name out.

                            Hand 16:
                              Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                              Hero (BTN): $36.41 (145.6 bb)
                              SB: $36.22 (144.9 bb)
                              BB: $22.53 (90.1 bb)
                              UTG: $25 (100 bb)
                              MP: $33.03 (132.1 bb)
                              CO: $27.45 (109.8 bb)

                              Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
                              3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB folds, BB calls $0.50

                              Flop: ($1.60) T 6 5 (2 players)
                              BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB raises to $2.75, Hero calls $1.75

                              Turn: ($7.10) 2 (2 players)
                              BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB raises to $8, Hero folds

                              Spoiler:
                              Results: $13.10 pot ($0.59 rake)
                              Final Board: T 6 5 2
                              Hero mucked K K and lost (-$6.50 net)
                              BB mucked and won $12.51 ($6.01 net)


                              Hand 17:
                                Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
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                                Hero (SB): $26.78 (107.1 bb)
                                BB: $18.15 (72.6 bb)

                                Preflop: Hero is SB with T A
                                Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50

                                Flop: ($1.50) T 7 6 (2 players)
                                BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB raises to $2.25, Hero raises to $5.50, BB calls $3.25

                                Turn: ($12.50) 9 (2 players)
                                BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $11.90 and is all-in

                                River: ($36.30) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                                Spoiler:
                                Results: $36.30 pot ($0.50 rake)
                                Final Board: T 7 6 9 4
                                Hero showed T A and won $0.00 (-$18.15 net)
                                BB showed 8 Q and won $35.80 ($17.65 net)
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                                01-19-2013 , 07:58 PM
                                Quote:
                                Originally Posted by pitapita
                                Yeah, I should be... wanted to show the chat but I guess I could have went through and edited his name out.

                                Hand 16:
                                  Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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                                  Hero (BTN): $36.41 (145.6 bb)
                                  SB: $36.22 (144.9 bb)
                                  BB: $22.53 (90.1 bb)
                                  UTG: $25 (100 bb)
                                  MP: $33.03 (132.1 bb)
                                  CO: $27.45 (109.8 bb)

                                  Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
                                  3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB folds, BB calls $0.50

                                  Flop: ($1.60) T 6 5 (2 players)
                                  BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB raises to $2.75, Hero calls $1.75

                                  Turn: ($7.10) 2 (2 players)
                                  BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB raises to $8, Hero folds

                                  Spoiler:
                                  Results: $13.10 pot ($0.59 rake)
                                  Final Board: T 6 5 2
                                  Hero mucked K K and lost (-$6.50 net)
                                  BB mucked and won $12.51 ($6.01 net)


                                  Lol dont think this is a fold tbh. After your weak bet i would probably again valueraise a hand like AT/JJ etc. What does really beat you. TT (maybe)/55/66 and 56s come on that is way too little. You are really at the top of your range here. Easily exploitable too...

                                  Hand 17:
                                    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
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                                    Hero (SB): $26.78 (107.1 bb)
                                    BB: $18.15 (72.6 bb)

                                    Preflop: Hero is SB with T A
                                    Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50

                                    Flop: ($1.50) T 7 6 (2 players)
                                    BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB raises to $2.25, Hero raises to $5.50, BB calls $3.25

                                    Turn: ($12.50) 9 (2 players)
                                    BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $11.90 and is all-in

                                    River: ($36.30) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                                    Spoiler:
                                    Results: $36.30 pot ($0.50 rake)
                                    Final Board: T 7 6 9 4
                                    Hero showed T A and won $0.00 (-$18.15 net)
                                    BB showed 8 Q and won $35.80 ($17.65 net)
                                    Cbet flop more like 75% on those wet boards. Reraising flop seems fine maybe a little bigger so that he cant really call anymore. Dont think he is folding hands to a bigger raise anyway. Turn I have no idea what you're doing. Turning your hand into a bluff?? Dont really see him folding anything here (like straights or sets) nor should he
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                                    01-19-2013 , 10:23 PM
                                    Quote:
                                    Originally Posted by harrygehakt
                                    Cbet flop more like 75% on those wet boards. Reraising flop seems fine maybe a little bigger so that he cant really call anymore. Dont think he is folding hands to a bigger raise anyway. Turn I have no idea what you're doing. Turning your hand into a bluff?? Dont really see him folding anything here (like straights or sets) nor should he
                                    Hand 16 I don't see how he's ever going to exploit me if I fold, I still have TT, 66, 55, 65, maybe some T6 and T5, as well I don't see an unknown check/raise bluffing twice, and I was expecting him to call with hands like AT.

                                    Hand 17 I completely agree with you, and my play on the turn is just really bad.

                                    I'm pretty sure I was playing bad the entire day, I know I made some fairly loose calls and I'm probably still missing spots to bluff.

                                    It's really weird that I haven't played very many big pots, I notice this every day when I'm going through my database to look through hands, for example I played 6k hands today and only had 8 hands where I won or lost more than 80bb. I remember I checked once when I was playing on Party and over a pretty big sample of probably 100k+ hands it was around once every 60 hands.

                                    I'll post some hands in a while.

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                                    01-19-2013 , 10:51 PM
                                    gl man, youtube videos are really good prob better than a bunch of training site vids.

                                    also i dont think any fish or bad reg will be able to understand or implement this into there game and will prolly make them worse if anything.
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                                    01-19-2013 , 11:43 PM
                                    Quote:
                                    Originally Posted by pitapita

                                    It's really weird that I haven't played very many big pots, I notice this every day when I'm going through my database to look through hands, for example I played 6k hands today and only had 8 hands where I won or lost more than 80bb. I remember I checked once when I was playing on Party and over a pretty big sample of probably 100k+ hands it was around once every 60 hands.
                                    Hey man, just wanted to comment on this because I play a lot of big pots and it seems really frequent that I'm getting all-in. I haven't checked in my db I'm definitely getting all-in pre at least a few times in a 6k hand sample.

                                    You should check to see if you are value betting fish thin enough and triple barreling all-in with TPGK type stuff most of the time even if that flush card rolls off on the river because a lot of the time they're sitting on TPWK or some **** so you gotta capitalize on that.

                                    Another thing I try to do a lot is isolate limpers super wide. I guess you can only do this in line with how well you play post flop. This allows you to get HU with the fish more often and these are the guys that are most willing to play big pots with you.

                                    One more thing is I love to 3bet squeeze stuff like AQ, AJ, KQ, KJ when some reg opens and a fish cold calls and I'm in position. I'm bluffing the reg out and value towning the fish because I can collect dead money on the flop a decent amount and other times I stack them when I flop a pear and they have some piece.
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                                    01-20-2013 , 06:51 AM
                                    Quote:
                                    Originally Posted by LazyAce
                                    Hey man, just wanted to comment on this because I play a lot of big pots and it seems really frequent that I'm getting all-in. I haven't checked in my db I'm definitely getting all-in pre at least a few times in a 6k hand sample.

                                    You should check to see if you are value betting fish thin enough and triple barreling all-in with TPGK type stuff most of the time even if that flush card rolls off on the river because a lot of the time they're sitting on TPWK or some **** so you gotta capitalize on that.

                                    Another thing I try to do a lot is isolate limpers super wide. I guess you can only do this in line with how well you play post flop. This allows you to get HU with the fish more often and these are the guys that are most willing to play big pots with you.

                                    One more thing is I love to 3bet squeeze stuff like AQ, AJ, KQ, KJ when some reg opens and a fish cold calls and I'm in position. I'm bluffing the reg out and value towning the fish because I can collect dead money on the flop a decent amount and other times I stack them when I flop a pear and they have some piece.
                                    HUH???
                                    3bet bluffing with them hands is ridiculous!! surely they are 3bet value hands vs pretty much any reg??
                                    And squeezing hands like AJ and AQ is much better than flatting them, especially unsuited OOP, because they just dont play that well multiway.

                                    If not then your 3betting value range is like AA KK QQ AK.... JJ would be questionable with your range

                                    Also tripple barreling TPTK when a flush comes in is a bit daft, you have to hand read and put villian on a range, before you just go all in on the river with TPTK.... seems a little thin, fish love to chase flush draws more than anything, they can never let them go, no matter what price they are getting IMO
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                                    01-20-2013 , 06:58 AM
                                    Quote:
                                    Originally Posted by Lazyace
                                    One more thing is I love to 3bet squeeze stuff like AQ, AJ, KQ, KJ
                                    Quote:
                                    Originally Posted by Craigster1
                                    HUH???
                                    3bet bluffing with them hands is ridiculous!! surely they are 3bet value hands vs pretty much any reg??
                                    HUH?????
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                                    01-20-2013 , 07:00 AM
                                    what dont you understand about my comment?
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                                    01-20-2013 , 11:13 AM
                                    Quote:
                                    Originally Posted by LosingShark
                                    gl man, youtube videos are really good prob better than a bunch of training site vids.

                                    also i dont think any fish or bad reg will be able to understand or implement this into there game and will prolly make them worse if anything.
                                    Thanks!

                                    Quote:
                                    Originally Posted by LazyAce
                                    Hey man, just wanted to comment on this because I play a lot of big pots and it seems really frequent that I'm getting all-in. I haven't checked in my db I'm definitely getting all-in pre at least a few times in a 6k hand sample.

                                    You should check to see if you are value betting fish thin enough and triple barreling all-in with TPGK type stuff most of the time even if that flush card rolls off on the river because a lot of the time they're sitting on TPWK or some **** so you gotta capitalize on that.

                                    Another thing I try to do a lot is isolate limpers super wide. I guess you can only do this in line with how well you play post flop. This allows you to get HU with the fish more often and these are the guys that are most willing to play big pots with you.

                                    One more thing is I love to 3bet squeeze stuff like AQ, AJ, KQ, KJ when some reg opens and a fish cold calls and I'm in position. I'm bluffing the reg out and value towning the fish because I can collect dead money on the flop a decent amount and other times I stack them when I flop a pear and they have some piece.
                                    This is really great advice, I will make sure to pay more attention and not check too much against guys who will call me really light. Thanks a lot man, I appreciate the help.

                                    Quote:
                                    Originally Posted by Craigster1
                                    HUH???
                                    3bet bluffing with them hands is ridiculous!! surely they are 3bet value hands vs pretty much any reg??
                                    And squeezing hands like AJ and AQ is much better than flatting them, especially unsuited OOP, because they just dont play that well multiway.

                                    If not then your 3betting value range is like AA KK QQ AK.... JJ would be questionable with your range

                                    Also tripple barreling TPTK when a flush comes in is a bit daft, you have to hand read and put villian on a range, before you just go all in on the river with TPTK.... seems a little thin, fish love to chase flush draws more than anything, they can never let them go, no matter what price they are getting IMO
                                    Quote:
                                    Originally Posted by blakkman08
                                    HUH?????
                                    Quote:
                                    Originally Posted by Craigster1
                                    what dont you understand about my comment?
                                    HUH???????

                                    AJ or AQ probably isn't a 3bet for value vs a reg unless the opener is in the BTN or SB, and even then they can be a call.

                                    If your 3bet value range is JJ+, AK what's the problem?

                                    The triple barreling TPTK stuff I think LazyAce is just saying to notice those spots more.

                                    Hand 18: Villain is unknown
                                      Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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                                      Hero (BTN): $40.11 (160.4 bb)
                                      SB: $47.21 (188.8 bb)
                                      BB: $29.54 (118.2 bb)
                                      UTG: $17.65 (70.6 bb)
                                      MP: $17.06 (68.2 bb)
                                      CO: $37.12 (148.5 bb)

                                      Preflop: Hero is BTN with A K
                                      UTG folds, MP calls $0.25, CO folds, Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, MP calls $0.75

                                      Flop: ($2.35) J A K (2 players)
                                      MP checks, Hero bets $1.50, MP calls $1.50

                                      Turn: ($5.35) 8 (2 players)
                                      MP checks, Hero bets $4, MP raises to $14.56, Hero calls $10.56

                                      River: ($34.47) J (2 players)

                                      Spoiler:
                                      Results: $34.47 pot ($1.55 rake)
                                      Final Board: J A K 8 J
                                      Hero showed A K and lost (-$17.06 net)
                                      MP showed T Q and won $32.92 ($15.86 net)
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                                      01-20-2013 , 12:13 PM
                                      Quote:
                                      Originally Posted by Craigster1
                                      HUH???
                                      3bet bluffing with them hands is ridiculous!! surely they are 3bet value hands vs pretty much any reg??
                                      And squeezing hands like AJ and AQ is much better than flatting them, especially unsuited OOP, because they just dont play that well multiway.

                                      If not then your 3betting value range is like AA KK QQ AK.... JJ would be questionable with your range
                                      Seriously not sure is serious... Most regs at 25NL full ring are not calling 3bets, especially oop with anything worse than the hands that I mentioned. At the same time, these hands ARE great value 3bets against a typical fishy cold calling range. So it's a great play since you get the regular to fold out his equity and you isolate the fish into a 3bet pot with a hand that dominates his calling range. Not sure what is not to like.

                                      Quote:
                                      Originally Posted by Craigster1
                                      Also tripple barreling TPTK when a flush comes in is a bit daft, you have to hand read and put villian on a range, before you just go all in on the river with TPTK.... seems a little thin, fish love to chase flush draws more than anything, they can never let them go, no matter what price they are getting IMO
                                      I'm sorry.... This post was directed specifically at the OP. After reading his OP and watching his video ( very nice btw ), and skimming through the thread I knew that I didn't have to go in to explicit detail. Obviously we aren't just blindly 3balling every river with TPGK. Trying to sell OP on some simple recipe for how to play all his top pairs against fish would be an insult to him. So I hope that you could understand that I am taking for granted that he is going to keep on assigning ranges and what not.

                                      I just know that from my own experience, when I started realizing how huge TPGK is vs fish that are not showing aggression I started booking more consistent winning sessions because these spots come up so much more frequently than hitting and getting paid with your monsters.

                                      When we have position and the fish checks to us on the river a lot of the time he doesn't have the flush because

                                      a) he gets to the river with much more than draws like middle-top pair stuff which they often aren't folding to a shove. This is exactly why you always see advice posted in micro forums like "don't 3barrel bluff a fish, they can't fold bottom pair". So if that is good advice, and I believe it is with some rare exceptions, then we obviously need to be value betting a lot thinner.

                                      b) When they check they are less likely to have a strong hand because even a fish knows you might check it back on the river so once they hit a lot of them like lead. That's not saying none of the fish check raise the river. They do, I'm just saying it's a lot less likely they have a flush even if you figure they check and lead with it 50/50 because of all the other weak crap that they have in their range.
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                                      01-20-2013 , 12:39 PM
                                      18. Dislike your flop and turn sizing. Flop minimal 2 bucks, and not even close imo. If he has a draw or pair or w/e he is just gonna call. Like I mean, you can't get value from a missed draw on the river u know (atleast, pretty likely lol) and even hands like QJ always call turn when u bomb it but might fold river.
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                                      01-20-2013 , 02:32 PM
                                      didnt say i didnt like the squeeze play, just didnt realise that it was like an advanced play or something, or that it was something out of the ordinary..

                                      seems pretty standard to me, maybe thats why im crushing too, but who knows.

                                      As for Pita.... if you dont think regs are calling with worse hands...... then 3bet them really light then, and when they call, you can easily give them a range of AK, and JJ+.... however i really think they are calling a lot wider than that in my own experience
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                                      01-20-2013 , 08:55 PM
                                      Quote:
                                      Originally Posted by LazyAce
                                      Seriously not sure is serious... Most regs at 25NL full ring are not calling 3bets, especially oop with anything worse than the hands that I mentioned. At the same time, these hands ARE great value 3bets against a typical fishy cold calling range. So it's a great play since you get the regular to fold out his equity and you isolate the fish into a 3bet pot with a hand that dominates his calling range. Not sure what is not to like.



                                      I'm sorry.... This post was directed specifically at the OP. After reading his OP and watching his video ( very nice btw ), and skimming through the thread I knew that I didn't have to go in to explicit detail. Obviously we aren't just blindly 3balling every river with TPGK. Trying to sell OP on some simple recipe for how to play all his top pairs against fish would be an insult to him. So I hope that you could understand that I am taking for granted that he is going to keep on assigning ranges and what not.

                                      I just know that from my own experience, when I started realizing how huge TPGK is vs fish that are not showing aggression I started booking more consistent winning sessions because these spots come up so much more frequently than hitting and getting paid with your monsters.

                                      When we have position and the fish checks to us on the river a lot of the time he doesn't have the flush because

                                      a) he gets to the river with much more than draws like middle-top pair stuff which they often aren't folding to a shove. This is exactly why you always see advice posted in micro forums like "don't 3barrel bluff a fish, they can't fold bottom pair". So if that is good advice, and I believe it is with some rare exceptions, then we obviously need to be value betting a lot thinner.

                                      b) When they check they are less likely to have a strong hand because even a fish knows you might check it back on the river so once they hit a lot of them like lead. That's not saying none of the fish check raise the river. They do, I'm just saying it's a lot less likely they have a flush even if you figure they check and lead with it 50/50 because of all the other weak crap that they have in their range.


                                      Quote:
                                      Originally Posted by IveGotUrOuts
                                      18. Dislike your flop and turn sizing. Flop minimal 2 bucks, and not even close imo. If he has a draw or pair or w/e he is just gonna call. Like I mean, you can't get value from a missed draw on the river u know (atleast, pretty likely lol) and even hands like QJ always call turn when u bomb it but might fold river.
                                      That makes sense, thanks.

                                      Quote:
                                      Originally Posted by Craigster1
                                      didnt say i didnt like the squeeze play, just didnt realise that it was like an advanced play or something, or that it was something out of the ordinary..

                                      seems pretty standard to me, maybe thats why im crushing too, but who knows.

                                      As for Pita.... if you dont think regs are calling with worse hands...... then 3bet them really light then, and when they call, you can easily give them a range of AK, and JJ+.... however i really think they are calling a lot wider than that in my own experience
                                      I wouldn't say it's an advanced play either, but something I really needed to hear and look out for a bit more, and a specific reply to what I said about noticing I'm not playing very many big pots.

                                      I'm not saying regs don't call with worse hands than that, I'm just saying that unless they're in late position I can't get called by enough worse hands if I 3bet with AJ. As well even if they are profitable 3bet bluffs, calling can be more profitable and these hands play well in SRPs and other hands like suited connectors play better in 3bet pots so I'm 3betting those instead.


                                      MiniFTOPS is over (for me), I played 21 entries in 11 events, I had 25% of myself and spent $697 in buyins and got $321 in cashes which is a loss of $94. Bustout hands from 6max KO and main event today.

                                      Quote:
                                      Originally Posted by pitapita
                                      Out of one entry of event 34, 26.2k and 11.7k in other entries

                                        Full Tilt, 400/800 blinds, 100 ante No Limit Hold'em Tournament, Rush, 6 Players
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                                        SB: 37,534 (46.9 bb)
                                        BB: 10,500 (13.1 bb)
                                        UTG: 21,134 (26.4 bb)
                                        MP: 10,650 (13.3 bb)
                                        CO: 68,932 (86.2 bb)
                                        Hero (BTN): 6,402 (8 bb)

                                        Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 6
                                        3 folds, Hero raises to 6,302 and is all-in, SB folds, BB calls 5,502

                                        Flop: (13,604) Q 2 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
                                        Turn: (13,604) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
                                        River: (13,604) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                                        Spoiler:
                                        Results: 13,604 pot
                                        Final Board: Q 2 5 2 5
                                        BB showed Q A and won 13,604 (7,202 net)
                                        Hero showed 7 6 and lost (-6,402 net)
                                        Quote:
                                        Originally Posted by pitapita
                                        1337th for $35.60, 13k in last entry

                                          Full Tilt, 800/1,600 blinds, 200 ante No Limit Hold'em Tournament, Rush, 6 Players
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                                          BTN: 58,838 (36.8 bb)
                                          SB: 10,712 (6.7 bb)
                                          Hero (BB): 29,868 (18.7 bb)
                                          UTG: 59,532 (37.2 bb)
                                          MP: 53,506 (33.4 bb)
                                          CO: 22,217 (13.9 bb)

                                          Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
                                          UTG folds, MP raises to 3,200, 3 folds, Hero raises to 29,668 and is all-in, MP calls 26,468

                                          Flop: (61,336) 6 7 A (2 players, 1 is all-in)
                                          Turn: (61,336) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
                                          River: (61,336) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                                          Spoiler:
                                          Results: 61,336 pot
                                          Final Board: 6 7 A 3 9
                                          Hero showed K K and lost (-29,868 net)
                                          MP showed 7 7 and won 61,336 (31,468 net)
                                          Quote:
                                          Originally Posted by pitapita
                                          847th for $47.46 in event 34, $35.60 in other entry and 8 bounties for $4 each. Total is $115.06

                                            Full Tilt, 1,200/2,400 blinds, 300 ante No Limit Hold'em Tournament, Rush, 6 Players
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                                            Hero (UTG): 19,598 (8.2 bb)
                                            MP: 38,175 (15.9 bb)
                                            CO: 165,164 (68.8 bb)
                                            BTN: 194,466 (81 bb)
                                            SB: 53,895 (22.5 bb)
                                            BB: 68,152 (28.4 bb)

                                            Preflop: Hero is UTG with A 3
                                            Hero raises to 19,298 and is all-in, MP raises to 37,875 and is all-in, 4 folds

                                            Flop: (43,996) 7 6 T (2 players, 2 are all-in)
                                            Turn: (43,996) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
                                            River: (43,996) J (2 players, 2 are all-in)

                                            Spoiler:
                                            Results: 43,996 pot
                                            Final Board: 7 6 T 9 J
                                            Hero showed A 3 and lost (-19,598 net)
                                            MP showed A T and won 43,996 (24,398 net)
                                            Quote:
                                            Originally Posted by pitapita
                                            Full Tilt Poker Game #31934913444: MiniFTOPS Main Event (243423197), Table 816 - 200/400 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:18:18 ET - 2013/01/20
                                            Seat 1: SchiggySchiggy (17,395)
                                            Seat 2: MUNSEN 007 (18,057)
                                            Seat 3: Ming-Jinq Wong (9,045)
                                            Seat 4: AlexaUKR (24,738)
                                            Seat 5: Ruslan5051 (26,734)
                                            Seat 6: PureCash25 (33,934)
                                            Seat 7: MasterK18 (10,110)
                                            Seat 8: karaivanov (22,689)
                                            Seat 9: vroli23 (21,726)
                                            SchiggySchiggy antes 50
                                            MUNSEN 007 antes 50
                                            Ming-Jinq Wong antes 50
                                            AlexaUKR antes 50
                                            Ruslan5051 antes 50
                                            PureCash25 antes 50
                                            MasterK18 antes 50
                                            karaivanov antes 50
                                            vroli23 antes 50
                                            Ruslan5051 posts the small blind of 200
                                            PureCash25 posts the big blind of 400
                                            The button is in seat #4
                                            *** HOLE CARDS ***
                                            Dealt to Ming-Jinq Wong [Ah 9c]
                                            MasterK18 folds
                                            karaivanov folds
                                            vroli23 folds
                                            SchiggySchiggy has 15 seconds left to act
                                            SchiggySchiggy folds
                                            MUNSEN 007 folds
                                            Ming-Jinq Wong raises to 800
                                            AlexaUKR folds
                                            Ruslan5051 calls 600
                                            PureCash25 folds
                                            *** FLOP *** [3s Qc 9d] (Total Pot: 2,450, 2 Players)
                                            Ruslan5051 checks
                                            Ming-Jinq Wong checks
                                            *** TURN *** [3s Qc 9d] [9h] (Total Pot: 2,450, 2 Players)
                                            Ruslan5051 bets 800
                                            Ming-Jinq Wong has 15 seconds left to act
                                            Ming-Jinq Wong raises to 2,400
                                            Ruslan5051 has 15 seconds left to act
                                            Ruslan5051 has requested TIME
                                            Ruslan5051 calls 1,600
                                            *** RIVER *** [3s Qc 9d 9h] [Td] (Total Pot: 7,250, 2 Players)
                                            Ruslan5051 bets 1,600
                                            Ming-Jinq Wong raises to 5,795, and is all in
                                            Ruslan5051 calls 4,195
                                            *** SHOW DOWN ***
                                            Ming-Jinq Wong shows [Ah 9c] three of a kind, Nines
                                            Ruslan5051 shows [3c 3d] a full house, Threes full of Nines
                                            Ruslan5051 wins the pot (18,840) with a full house, Threes full of Nines
                                            *** SUMMARY ***
                                            Total pot 18,840 | Rake 0
                                            Board: [3s Qc 9d 9h Td]
                                            Seat 1: SchiggySchiggy folded before the Flop
                                            Seat 2: MUNSEN 007 folded before the Flop
                                            Seat 3: Ming-Jinq Wong showed [Ah 9c] and lost with three of a kind, Nines
                                            Seat 4: AlexaUKR (button) folded before the Flop
                                            Seat 5: Ruslan5051 (small blind) showed [3c 3d] and won (18,840) with a full house, Threes full of Nines
                                            Seat 6: PureCash25 (big blind) folded before the Flop
                                            Seat 7: MasterK18 folded before the Flop
                                            Seat 8: karaivanov folded before the Flop
                                            Seat 9: vroli23 folded before the Flop
                                            Quote:
                                            Originally Posted by pitapita
                                            16k in last entry

                                            Full Tilt Poker Game #31935005954: MiniFTOPS Main Event (243423197), Table 1628 - 250/500 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:27:22 ET - 2013/01/20
                                            Seat 1: betheraiser87 (13,013)
                                            Seat 2: Ming-Jinq Wong (2,387)
                                            Seat 3: clueless5 (21,740)
                                            Seat 4: SagyMosh (17,897)
                                            Seat 5: MarcusDeMingos (23,336)
                                            Seat 6: BustedWadZ (7,845)
                                            Seat 7: romikua (9,228)
                                            Seat 8: ALEE24 (10,825)
                                            Seat 9: goodie2990 (4,871)
                                            betheraiser87 antes 50
                                            Ming-Jinq Wong antes 50
                                            clueless5 antes 50
                                            SagyMosh antes 50
                                            MarcusDeMingos antes 50
                                            BustedWadZ antes 50
                                            romikua antes 50
                                            ALEE24 antes 50
                                            goodie2990 antes 50
                                            MarcusDeMingos has been disconnected
                                            BustedWadZ posts the small blind of 250
                                            romikua posts the big blind of 500
                                            The button is in seat #5
                                            *** HOLE CARDS ***
                                            Dealt to Ming-Jinq Wong [Kh Td]
                                            MarcusDeMingos has reconnected
                                            ALEE24 folds
                                            goodie2990 folds
                                            betheraiser87 folds
                                            Ming-Jinq Wong raises to 2,337, and is all in
                                            MarcusDeMingos has been disconnected
                                            clueless5 folds
                                            SagyMosh folds
                                            MarcusDeMingos has 15 seconds left to act
                                            MarcusDeMingos has reconnected
                                            MarcusDeMingos has 15 seconds left to act
                                            MarcusDeMingos calls 2,337
                                            BustedWadZ folds
                                            romikua folds
                                            Ming-Jinq Wong shows [Kh Td]
                                            MarcusDeMingos shows [9c As]
                                            *** FLOP *** [Jd Ah Jh] (Total Pot: 5,874, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
                                            *** TURN *** [Jd Ah Jh] [9s] (Total Pot: 5,874, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
                                            *** RIVER *** [Jd Ah Jh 9s] [Ad] (Total Pot: 5,874, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
                                            Ming-Jinq Wong shows two pair, Aces and Jacks
                                            MarcusDeMingos shows a full house, Aces full of Jacks
                                            MarcusDeMingos wins the pot (5,874) with a full house, Aces full of Jacks
                                            *** SUMMARY ***
                                            Total pot 5,874 | Rake 0
                                            Board: [Jd Ah Jh 9s Ad]
                                            Seat 1: betheraiser87 folded before the Flop
                                            Seat 2: Ming-Jinq Wong showed [Kh Td] and lost with two pair, Aces and Jacks
                                            Seat 3: clueless5 folded before the Flop
                                            Seat 4: SagyMosh folded before the Flop
                                            Seat 5: MarcusDeMingos (button) showed [9c As] and won (5,874) with a full house, Aces full of Jacks
                                            Seat 6: BustedWadZ (small blind) folded before the Flop
                                            Seat 7: romikua (big blind) folded before the Flop
                                            Seat 8: ALEE24 folded before the Flop
                                            Seat 9: goodie2990 folded before the Flop
                                            Quote:
                                            Originally Posted by pitapita
                                            ouch

                                            Full Tilt Poker Game #31935493467: MiniFTOPS Main Event (243423197), Table 1361 - 500/1000 Ante 125 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:21:41 ET - 2013/01/20
                                            Seat 1: Ming-Jinq Wong (13,024)
                                            Seat 2: Elvoto (47,786)
                                            Seat 3: VladVampKill (72,794)
                                            Seat 4: LMac789 (17,744)
                                            Seat 5: NelsonViana (12,730)
                                            Seat 6: kingriver321 (25,645)
                                            Seat 7: sammycon23 (22,166)
                                            Seat 8: Bipolar_Boy03 (23,708)
                                            Seat 9: Freibeat (57,006)
                                            Ming-Jinq Wong antes 125
                                            Elvoto antes 125
                                            VladVampKill antes 125
                                            LMac789 antes 125
                                            NelsonViana antes 125
                                            kingriver321 antes 125
                                            sammycon23 antes 125
                                            Bipolar_Boy03 antes 125
                                            Freibeat antes 125
                                            Freibeat posts the small blind of 500
                                            Ming-Jinq Wong posts the big blind of 1,000
                                            The button is in seat #8
                                            *** HOLE CARDS ***
                                            Dealt to Ming-Jinq Wong [Qd Ac]
                                            Elvoto has been disconnected
                                            Elvoto folds
                                            Elvoto has reconnected
                                            VladVampKill raises to 2,000
                                            LMac789 folds
                                            NelsonViana has 15 seconds left to act
                                            NelsonViana folds
                                            kingriver321 folds
                                            sammycon23 folds
                                            Bipolar_Boy03 folds
                                            Freibeat calls 1,500
                                            Ming-Jinq Wong raises to 12,899, and is all in
                                            VladVampKill has 15 seconds left to act
                                            VladVampKill raises to 72,669, and is all in
                                            Freibeat folds
                                            VladVampKill shows [Kc Qc]
                                            Ming-Jinq Wong shows [Qd Ac]
                                            Uncalled bet of 59,770 returned to VladVampKill
                                            *** FLOP *** [Ks 3h Kh] (Total Pot: 28,923, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
                                            *** TURN *** [Ks 3h Kh] [Ad] (Total Pot: 28,923, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
                                            *** RIVER *** [Ks 3h Kh Ad] [Jh] (Total Pot: 28,923, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
                                            VladVampKill shows three of a kind, Kings
                                            Ming-Jinq Wong shows two pair, Aces and Kings
                                            VladVampKill wins the pot (28,923) with three of a kind, Kings
                                            *** SUMMARY ***
                                            Total pot 28,923 | Rake 0
                                            Board: [Ks 3h Kh Ad Jh]
                                            Seat 1: Ming-Jinq Wong (big blind) showed [Qd Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings
                                            Seat 2: Elvoto folded before the Flop
                                            Seat 3: VladVampKill showed [Kc Qc] and won (28,923) with three of a kind, Kings
                                            Seat 4: LMac789 folded before the Flop
                                            Seat 5: NelsonViana folded before the Flop
                                            Seat 6: kingriver321 folded before the Flop
                                            Seat 7: sammycon23 folded before the Flop
                                            Seat 8: Bipolar_Boy03 (button) folded before the Flop
                                            Seat 9: Freibeat (small blind) folded before the Flop
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