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08-08-2023 , 04:06 PM
[General notes: Multi-tabling, Scared money, Bankroll management]

I just can't multi-table any more. I am afraid I am not concentrating enough when I am not. I am too worried I will play bad and lose a lot of money. I guess I am feeling a bit 'scared money' right now, because I just managed to bring my bankroll back to a decent amount to be able to play the minimum tours I played.
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08-08-2023 , 05:49 PM
A7s - a little loose but w/e, glad you’re using push fold charts
KJs - fine
QTs - way overplayed multi-way , turn is a check. This is basic range stuff: Both opponents can have TT, 99, 88, 77, or huge draws
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08-08-2023 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tilted9042
Thank you for the feedback, Evo. So what would have been a good play? Check-call flop? And, later, check-call turn?
I mean, it depends on the ranges of the people you're playing against. Check/calling small bets is fine with your draws.

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Originally Posted by tilted9042
[Key hand: $3.30 Bounty builder, AQs]

Here we are almost at the Final table bubble. I was unsure whether it was good to call the shove. Was I right?
Depends on the player/his bounty. Your biggest mistake is your sizing. The bigger his bounty, the better the call

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Originally Posted by tilted9042
[Hand analysis: Last hand in the $3.30 Bounty builder of 07/08/2023]

For those parameters, the Push Fold charts show I shouldn't go all-in with A7s. It is marginal, but still incorrect. I could have saved myself a position in the final table or better from this. (https://www.mypokercoaching.com/push-fold-chart/)
A7s from the LJ (you are playing 7 handed, not 9 handed) @ 14bb effective is an open/fold from a GTO perspective. Obviously you can derivate from that based on meta considerations or ICM considerations, but if you are going to derivate from it, you should be sure of why you're doing it

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Originally Posted by tilted9042
[Game results: My bad experience with a $7.50 bounty builder]

I played a $7.50 Bounty builder. I was really nervous as this was my first time. I checked out all players on my table on pokerprolabs.com. The table was full of regs and tough regs (as I classed them due to total winnings, recent plays and how they played in-game). Such players raise big and often, and I often feel as if everybody is bluffing me.
I looked up the players from the HHs you listed on Sharkscope (the only thing you should be using to look people up), and pretty much all of them are bad. Over half are losing players, and 5/8 of them have an abi under 7.50

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Originally Posted by tilted9042
[Hand review: Bounty Builder $7.50, Key hand 1, early stages before freeze-out]

How was my play?
Seems fine

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Originally Posted by tilted9042
[Hand review: $7.50 Bounty Builder, Key hand 2, early stages before freeze-out]

How was my play?
Doubt there are many amazing things that can happen by calling a squeeze here and playing out of position. As played, you should be checking and calling small bets not leading 3/4 pot
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08-09-2023 , 11:34 AM
[Strategy update]

I just read this short and concise advice for low stakes play up to $5-6, from gogitos (George Simopoulos):
"At low stakes, up to $5-6:
- If you have a hand, bet
- If you don't have a hand, don't bet
- avoid bluffs
- avoid hero calls"

Taken from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsbkqamSNtg
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08-09-2023 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by EvolvedSavage
I looked up the players from the HHs you listed on Sharkscope (the only thing you should be using to look people up), and pretty much all of them are bad. Over half are losing players, and 5/8 of them have an abi under 7.50
Thank you for answering all my questions, and for all your comments, Evo. I recall being in a table with a couple of players who were millionaires. But you are right, perhaps that wasn't the one! Well spotted!!

However, I can't look up people on Sharkscope, because it doesn't show full info on players, including ABI. Note that I am not paying fees at Sharkscope. That is why I use Pokerprolabs.

I class players as follows:

[My player classification]

"Recreational player":
- has played few games
- has never made any final tables

"Weak reg":
- has played a lot of games
- has made final tables
- has not won any tours this year in recent months

"Reg":
- has played a lot of games
- has won tours this year in recent months

"Tough reg":
- has played a lot of games
- has played higher stakes
- has won tours this year in recent months in higher stakes

The most important point is, "regs" are relevant to the stakes I am playing. They are regs in THAT level or higher. So, their ABI may be low, but, well, I am playing low ABI also.

What do you think? Is this classification good, or too complicated?
And am I just wasting my time classifying players given that I am playing micro and low stakes?

Last edited by tilted9042; 08-09-2023 at 12:18 PM.
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08-09-2023 , 01:14 PM
Yes, everything except practicing putting your opponents on a range of hands is a waste of time for you right now, imo
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08-09-2023 , 07:46 PM
[Session results]

This session I finished 15h out of 3076 players in the $3.30 Bounty builder, and cashed a nice $42.61! This is another deep finish for me in the same type of tournament. My bankroll is now at just about $50.

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08-09-2023 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tilted9042
Thank you for answering all my questions, and for all your comments, Evo. I recall being in a table with a couple of players who were millionaires.
If you cash for $1,000,000 but you've spend $1,100,000 on entry fees, are you a millionaire?


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However, I can't look up people on Sharkscope, because it doesn't show full info on players, including ABI. Note that I am not paying fees at Sharkscope. That is why I use Pokerprolabs.
Sharkscope shows far more accurate info on players than PPL does. PPL is effectively useless.

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What do you think? Is this classification good, or too complicated?
And am I just wasting my time classifying players given that I am playing micro and low stakes?
You are wasting your time unless you are using your classifications to actively range players and exploit them.

If I'm playing against someone on a site I play on, and I see he has a 55 ability rating with 400 games played this year and an abi around the game we're playing, I know how he's going to play AK preflop. I know how he's going to play 55 preflop. I know what hands he's opening, what hands he's flatting, what hands he's 3b and what hands he's rejamming. I know how he's going to play top pair postflop and what he's doing with a busted flush draw on the river. You need to be taking this partial information and use it to draw conclusions to better inform your play.
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08-11-2023 , 10:47 AM
[Game results: Sucky $2.20 Bounty builder double bust-out]

This sessions I played 2 tours, a $2.20 Bounty builder, and a $1.10 Bounty builder.

I lost 2 buy-ins in a $2.20 tour, because it is impossible to avoid the gambling donks at the micro stakes.

Villain opened for 2xBB. Holding KQs, I 3-bet light to 4xBB to isolate. I chose to 3-bet light instead of the normal size on purpose, to avoid getting into an all-in confrontation. However, that didn't do it. The villain insta-went all-in with AJo. I called, but wasn't lucky this time.

I rebought for 50xBB. After my stack was down to 38xBB I got QQ UTG. I went all-in hoping to double up. I got insta-called by the player UTG+1, who was holding 55. He hit a 5 on the flop to bust me out again.

By that time, the blinds were too high to buy in again, so I gave up.

Last edited by tilted9042; 08-11-2023 at 11:02 AM.
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08-11-2023 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tilted9042
Villain opened for 2xBB. Holding KQs, I 3-bet light to 4xBB to isolate. I chose to 3-bet light instead of the normal size on purpose, to avoid getting into an all-in confrontation. However, that didn't do it. The villain insta-went all-in with AJo. I called, but wasn't lucky this time.
This is really bad on a bunch of levels. Pretty much every decision you made, you made the wrong one

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I rebought for 50xBB. After my stack was down to 38xBB I got QQ UTG. I went all-in hoping to double up. I got insta-called by the player UTG+1, who was holding 55. He hit a 5 on the flop to bust me out again.
This is fine if you are explo shoving knowing you're always getting called light
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08-12-2023 , 04:57 PM
[Session results]

Today I played a few tournaments above my ABI of $2, and specifically the $2.20, $3.30, 4.40, $5.50 and $7.50 Bounty builders. I min cashed in most, and cashed ok in the $5.50. I am happy because I was feeling comfortable playing at those levels.

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08-12-2023 , 05:04 PM
[My profit graph]

Sharkscope has finally unlocked my stats, so I can now see my full stats and graph of Total profit. I am up at €725=$794,94.
https://www.sharkscope.com/#Player-S...ers/Tilted9042

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08-14-2023 , 07:40 PM
[Hand analysis: AKo from UTG in the $1.65 Bounty builder]

I re-entered the tour for 35xBB. My 3rd hand was AKo from UTG, and I had only 31xBB left. How did I play it?

PokerStars, $1.47 + $0.18 - Hold'em No Limit - 80/160 (24 ante) - 8 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

Tilted9042 (UTG): 4,958 (31 bb)
F1yWeight (UTG+1): 13,979 (87 bb)
ivan_31017 (MP): 15,480 (97 bb)
YamYugioh (MP+1): 3,842 (24 bb)
garcia9625 (CO): 6,180 (39 bb)
dan nui (BU): 5,867 (37 bb)
la_mimi43 (SB): 6,616 (41 bb)
Rayon-2lune (BB): 3,468 (22 bb)

Pre-Flop: (432) Hero (Tilted9042) is UTG with K A
Tilted9042 (UTG) raises to 640, 1 fold, ivan_31017 (MP) calls 640, 5 players fold

Flop: (1,712) 9 A 6 (2 players)
Tilted9042 (UTG) checks, ivan_31017 (MP) checks

Turn: (1,712) T (2 players)
Tilted9042 (UTG) bets 856, ivan_31017 (MP) raises to 2,739, Tilted9042 (UTG) raises to 4,294 (all-in), ivan_31017 (MP) calls 1,555

River: (10,300) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 10,300

Showdown:
Tilted9042 (UTG) shows K A (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 61%, Flop: 32%, Turn: 16%, River: 0%)

ivan_31017 (MP) shows T Q (a flush, Ace high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 39%, Flop: 68%, Turn: 84%, River: 100%)

ivan_31017 (MP) wins 10,300
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08-14-2023 , 07:50 PM
[Site considerations: GGPoker]

I am considering signing up to GGPoker with my bankroll. The benefits:
1) I will get a great signup bonus
2) I will have the chance to play many more tours

The cons
1) Greece is not supported, so I will have to come up with something to overcome that.
2) I am not entirely sure how many Micro tours they have (<$5), which is what I primarily play.

Is it worth taking the risk to sign up to GGPoker?
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08-14-2023 , 08:51 PM
[Site tracking: PokerProlabs unlocked]

I've opted in PokerProlabs, and it has now come through, so I can see my full stats there.

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08-14-2023 , 11:21 PM
[Hand analysis: JTs from UTG vs an all-in on flop]

This all-in looked like a classic over-pair hand trying to steal the pot. I called but was not lucky. Was I right to do that?

PokerStars, $0.98 + $0.12 - Hold'em No Limit - 500/1,000 (150 ante) - 8 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

Tilted9042 (UTG): 55,227 (55 bb)
ShellBrookeHope (UTG+1): 24,214 (24 bb)
smiles4848 (MP): 62,726 (63 bb)
psycaution (MP+1): 40,302 (40 bb)
cordocar19 (CO): 25,928 (26 bb)
roberto424242 (BU): 80,781 (81 bb)
crazy hor647 (SB): 39,792 (40 bb)
Blackcat_031284 (BB): 30,271 (30 bb)

Pre-Flop: (2,700) Hero (Tilted9042) is UTG with J T
Tilted9042 (UTG) raises to 2,250, ShellBrookeHope (UTG+1) calls 2,250, smiles4848 (MP) 3-bets to 3,500, 5 players fold, Tilted9042 (UTG) calls 1,250, ShellBrookeHope (UTG+1) calls 1,250

Flop: (13,200) 2 4 T (3 players)
Tilted9042 (UTG) checks, ShellBrookeHope (UTG+1) checks, smiles4848 (MP) bets 59,076 (all-in), Tilted9042 (UTG) calls 51,577 (all-in), ShellBrookeHope (UTG+1) folds

Turn: (116,354) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (116,354) A (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: 116,354

Showdown:
smiles4848 (MP) shows Q A (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 61%, Flop: 24%, Turn: 14%, River: 100%)

Tilted9042 (UTG) shows J T (a pair of Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 39%, Flop: 76%, Turn: 86%, River: 0%)

smiles4848 (MP) wins 116,354
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08-14-2023 , 11:24 PM
[Hand analysis: AQs vs random call-all-in pre]

So, I 3-bet to isolate. Then the guy to my right went all-in, sign of a weak hand. I called, hit a Q on the turn, but he hit a 3 on the river. Was I right to call the all-in?

PokerStars, $3.92 + $0.48 - Hold'em No Limit - 100/200 (30 ante) - 8 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

rrocha111 (UTG): 4,540 (23 bb)
Horoz MD (UTG+1): 20,820 (104 bb)
Lirajpz (MP): 3,953 (20 bb)
naziknazar (MP+1): 47,373 (237 bb)
japarthur06 (CO): 7,110 (36 bb)
Ace9071 (BU): 11,910 (60 bb)
blinkibilll (SB): 7,809 (39 bb)
Tilted9042 (BB): 7,001 (35 bb)

Pre-Flop: (540) Hero (Tilted9042) is BB with Q A
3 players fold, naziknazar (MP+1) raises to 400, 2 players fold, blinkibilll (SB) calls 300, Tilted9042 (BB) 3-bets to 1,200, 1 fold, blinkibilll (SB) 4-bets to 7,779 (all-in), Tilted9042 (BB) calls 5,771 (all-in)

Flop: (14,582) K 2 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (14,582) Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (14,582) 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: 14,582

Showdown:
blinkibilll (SB) shows 3 3 (three of a kind, Threes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 51%, Flop: 74%, Turn: 5%, River: 100%)

Tilted9042 (BB) shows Q A (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 49%, Flop: 26%, Turn: 95%, River: 0%)

blinkibilll (SB) wins 14,582

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08-14-2023 , 11:25 PM
[Session results]

I started playing in the middle of the night, at around 1:00am! (Yes, I had nothing bette to do). There was little choice of tournaments, so I went with whatever was available at the moment, which was mostly $1.10 PKOs with low prizes.

I signed up for 2 of these. The good thing is one had less than 1,000 entrants, and the other less than 200, so it is a good opportunity for me to test my skills in tours with lower variance, and later stages of huge tournaments.

These tournaments are full of recreational players. While this should theoretically be an advantage for me, actually, there is huge variance since they play randomly. They limp-call big raises, and call down with anything. You hardly beat people who play unpredictable hands, and don't fold, as one of them eventually gets lucky, and that's enough to bust you out.

The good news is I'm usually ahead in all-ins preflop, as they also call them with marginal hands, so I can save my ass in difficult moments.

I busted out of the 1st $1.10 PKO very soon, and a little later out of the other one.

I also registered for a Bounty builder $1.65. I was getting no hands for a while so I decided to go all-in from the BB with KQo against 4 callers with just over 23xBB. 2 of them called, one with 88, and another with KJo. My KQ didn't hold up, so I was out.

I re-entered the $1.65 Bounty builder for 35xBB. My 3rd hand was AKo from UTG. I raised to 4xBB and got 1 caller from UTG+2. The flop came all hearts with the A there. I checked, and the turn was a Td. I raised, the UTG+2 re-raised and I went all-in. He turned over QTh for a flush, and I was out again.

I played a $4.40 Bounty builder. I lost when a rando 3-bet all-in with 33 vs my AQs. I hit a Q on the turn, but he hit a 3 on the river. Idiot got rewarded.

I also registered for a $1.10 Bounty builder later on, where I maded it ITM. I lost when a rando went all-in on a T high flop with AQo, vs my JTo, and hit an Ace on the river. Another idiot got rewarded.

I ended the session down $5.

Last edited by tilted9042; 08-14-2023 at 11:40 PM.
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08-15-2023 , 12:08 AM
[Study session: Mastering the fundamentals: Multiway pots]

I discovered this video a few days ago, and it is fantastic. It is just what I need for the stakes I am playing, as I find myself in multiway pots ALL THE TIME. It is also the answer to all those players who say "I should move up stakes where they respect my raises". Actually, instead, you need to learn how to play multiway pots, like in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxeaM640cPQ
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08-15-2023 , 01:32 AM
[Hand analysis: KK vs raise on the turn]

So, I figured one of the 2 players would have an A or have me beat and made a snug fold on the turn. Was I right?

PokerStars, $4.90 + $0.60 - Hold'em No Limit - 80/160 (16 ante) - 8 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

Vludin (UTG): 16,457 (103 bb)
casablanca627 (UTG+1): 12,178 (76 bb)
Jane vs Tarzan (MP): 21,536 (135 bb)
Tilted9042 (MP+1): 13,384 (84 bb)
ll-Rafa-ll (CO): 10,616 (66 bb)
jonara13 (BU): 4,494 (28 bb)
Mach 10154 (SB): 10,055 (63 bb)
Vrswow (BB): 9,190 (57 bb)

Pre-Flop: (368) Hero (Tilted9042) is MP+1 with K K
3 players fold, Tilted9042 (MP+1) raises to 360, 1 fold, jonara13 (BU) calls 360, Mach 10154 (SB) calls 280, Vrswow (BB) calls 200

Flop: (1,568) 3 8 5 (4 players)
Mach 10154 (SB) checks, Vrswow (BB) checks, Tilted9042 (MP+1) bets 470, jonara13 (BU) calls 470, Mach 10154 (SB) folds, Vrswow (BB) calls 470

Turn: (2,978) A (3 players)
Vrswow (BB) checks, Tilted9042 (MP+1) checks, jonara13 (BU) bets 800, Vrswow (BB) calls 800, Tilted9042 (MP+1) folds

River: (4,578) 7 (2 players)
Vrswow (BB) checks, jonara13 (BU) checks

Total pot: 4,578

Showdown:
jonara13 (BU) mucks Q K (high card, Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 65%, Flop: 25%, Turn: 34%, River: 0%)

Vrswow (BB) shows 8 4 (a pair of Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 35%, Flop: 75%, Turn: 66%, River: 100%)

Vrswow (BB) wins 4,578
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08-15-2023 , 03:49 AM
[Session results]

I played 3 more games, a $1.65 Bounty Builder, a $5.50 PKO, and also took a shot at an $11 Bounty Builder. I made it deep in the $5.50, but didn't cash in the others. My bankroll is now down another $8, at $13.

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08-15-2023 , 11:52 AM
All of those hands are really poorly played, unless you have explo reasons for derivating so far from correct play, but if that were the case you wouldn't post them
Calling a 4x pot overshove with top pair because you "put him on an over pair" makes no sense and is really REALLY bad
Thinking that someone 4b shoving 40bb from SB is "a sign of a weak hand" is really incorrect thinking
Your sizes are all over the place, some hands you 4x open, some you 3x open, some you 2.2x open. This is generally really bad
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08-16-2023 , 02:02 AM
Thanks Evo for reviewing my hands!

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Originally Posted by EvolvedSavage
All of those hands are really poorly played, unless you have explo reasons for derivating so far from correct play, but if that were the case you wouldn't post them
No I consider them explo hands, except the last one with KK, and I think I got unlucky.

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Originally Posted by EvolvedSavage
Calling a 4x pot overshove with top pair because you "put him on an over pair" makes no sense and is really REALLY bad
It was a gut call, I've seen this before. His bet on the flop was huge, not justified. Donks do that often when they have overcards.

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Originally Posted by EvolvedSavage
Thinking that someone 4b shoving 40bb from SB is "a sign of a weak hand" is really incorrect thinking
The guy first called, then 4-bet. Players in my stakes don't do that with strong hands. They just 3-bet big in the first place. It looked like a classic case of a donk with a mediocre hand, and that is why I called.

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Originally Posted by EvolvedSavage
Your sizes are all over the place, some hands you 4x open, some you 3x open, some you 2.2x open. This is generally really bad
I didn't notice that, I thought I always raised 2.25xBB pre. I will have a look at that.

Last edited by tilted9042; 08-16-2023 at 02:11 AM.
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08-16-2023 , 02:05 AM
[Buying a video poker course]

So, I've found a way that I can buy a video course at a reasonable price. I think I will buy one as soon as I win my next big tour for $100 or more.

Which of the following do you suggest I should buy, if any? Do you have any of these? Are they any good, and why? I am inclined towards ονε οφ the first ones, since I know JL and already have part of his courses which I got for free from Youtube.

My requirements:
- I want one which continues with what I have learnt already
- Note that I am playing Bounty builder tours almost exclusively
- I am not interested in GTO.

Courses list:
  1. TOURNAMENT MASTER CLASS WITH JONATHAN LITTLE
  2. JONATHAN LITTLE ADVANCED TOURNAMENT COURSE
  3. JONATHAN LITTLE MTT COURSE
  4. CHARLIE CARREL EPIPHANY MASTERCLASS FOR SMALL LIMITS
  5. UPSWING WINNING POKER TOURNAMENT by Nick Petrangelo
  6. RAISE YOUR EDGE BOUNTY BEAST
  7. POKERNERVE BOUNTY HUNTER: A Progressive Knockout Tournament Course
  8. RUN IT ONCE ELITE MTT TRAINING VIDEOS 2023
  9. RUN IT ONCE ELITE MTT CONTENT FULL 2022
  10. ALEX FITZGERALD MTT MASTERCLASS
  11. MICROGRINDER MULTI TABLE TOURNAMENT (MTT) 101
  12. MICROGRINDER MULTI TABLE TOURNAMENT (MTT) 202
  13. BEST POKER COACHING CLIMBING OUT THE MICROSTAKES
  14. TOURNAMENT MASTERCLASS RAISE YOUR EDGE

Last edited by tilted9042; 08-16-2023 at 02:10 AM.
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08-16-2023 , 09:22 AM
[Session results]

I played 4 games, and finished 36th in this $1.10 Bounty builder. However, my bankroll is now at $6.12 and I may need to deposit some on the site.

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