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08-04-2013 , 04:13 PM
Good luck. I am also in rebuilding mode after ****ing it up. Any advice for confidence?
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08-04-2013 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by IveGotUrOuts
Good luck. I am also in rebuilding mode after ****ing it up. Any advice for confidence?
Same to you. I guess get someone good to sweat you/review your play and reassure you you're playing well. I've seen your graphs and w/o knowing anything about your game I pretty much assume you fold a bit too much. A negative redline is fine at NL10 but yours is just a straight downward line.
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08-04-2013 , 07:23 PM
there are other factors that can get your redline down
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08-04-2013 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by czechvengeance
there are other factors that can get your redline down
yep. but not over a 100k sample size and not the way his redline looks. hes either not vbetting enough or folding way too much as a generalization
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08-04-2013 , 07:32 PM
highly suggest both of you read these:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...value-630309//
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...t-ever-791734/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...bluffs-747500/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...h-baah-637589/

i was talking about stuff like not barrelling/checkraising enough, trying to get to showdown too much etc

Last edited by czechvengeance; 08-04-2013 at 07:44 PM.
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08-04-2013 , 07:39 PM
links don't work. but yeah 100%. basically his redline to me suggests that he only relies on cooler action and shows down way too many hands. no disagreement there afaik
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08-04-2013 , 07:46 PM
hopefully fixed my post.
yes, iirc your redline is b/e?
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08-04-2013 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by czechvengeance
hopefully fixed my post.
yes, iirc your redline is b/e?
stopped caring it plummeted for a while but generally b/e or slightly positive probably. people focus on the redline too much imho. i just pointed it out because on his graph the redline goes down sharper than the blue line goes up
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08-05-2013 , 01:17 AM
What's ur current win rate at all the stakes you had played?
I am getting only about 5BB/100 over 50k hands @ 5nl
At 2NL I ran about 13BB/100

BB = big binds so theres no need to x2

Trying ways to improve my winrate to 10BB/100... it seems like I am folding too much as displayed by my downward redline... while yours is trending a little up or at breakeven

Last edited by MaTaKazer; 08-05-2013 at 01:25 AM.
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08-05-2013 , 02:38 AM
NL2: 19bb/100
NL5: 14bb/100
NL10: 6bb/100
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08-05-2013 , 04:50 AM
Good luck sir. Nice graphs, keep at it.
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08-05-2013 , 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MaTaKazer

Trying ways to improve my winrate to 10BB/100... it seems like I am folding too much as displayed by my downward redline... while yours is trending a little up or at breakeven
10bb/100 is close to the nut possible sustainable w/r at NL10 imho so if you can get there hats off. I doubt there are many people who have >10bb w/r's over a reasonable sample. I strongly suggest you stop caring too much about the redline and focus on just making the right plays. NL10 ain't no gonad-swinging contest. The threads czechvengeance posted are pretty good imo so take a look at those.

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Originally Posted by sharkbaitOHH
Good luck sir. Nice graphs, keep at it.
Thanks a lot man! Honor to have you in my thread hehe. Gl to you too.



Took advantage of the happy hours this morning and was up about 2 BI but ended up breaking even after some KK<AA etc. Gonna play some more later. Balancing my rungood at NL10 with some runbad at FPP hypers.
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08-05-2013 , 08:57 AM
in and gl sir
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08-05-2013 , 11:23 AM
Congrats on the run good/play good...when are you starting 25NL?
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08-05-2013 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Burnss
in and gl sir
thx ledge.

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Congrats on the run good/play good...when are you starting 25NL?
ty good sir. rungood halted today so I need about 6 more BIs for 25NL.

swongz:



from even to -3bi to almost even at the end in <200 hands. Stars didn't like me today at all. KK<AA 3 times including this bad boy:

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 180.2 BB (VPIP: 21.84, PFR: 18.14, 3Bet Preflop: 5.65, Hands: 801)
SB: 90.2 BB (VPIP: 29.09, PFR: 25.45, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 55)
BB: 116.7 BB (VPIP: 11.36, PFR: 6.06, 3Bet Preflop: 2.22, Hands: 136)
UTG: 55.7 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 20)
MP: 265.5 BB (VPIP: 29.41, PFR: 29.41, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 17)
Hero (CO): 167.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 10.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP raises to 28 BB, Hero raises to 51 BB, MP raises to 265.5 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 116.2 BB and is all-in

Flop: (335.9 BB, 2 players) K A 7

Turn: (335.9 BB, 2 players) 4

River: (335.9 BB, 2 players) 4

MP shows A A (Full House, Aces full of Fours) (Pre 82%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)
Hero mucks K K (Full House, Kings full of Fours) (Pre 18%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
MP wins 320.9 BB

Stars crashed for the 4th time today after I 5bet, came back in time to click call, dude didn't have the show cards when all in option turned on, I flop set, do a little happy dance, then see AA again, fight urge to break the laptop.


Tons of this stuff today:

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 80.1 BB (VPIP: 16.28, PFR: 9.30, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 44)
SB: 142.6 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 10.20, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 50)
Hero (BB): 135.8 BB
UTG: 175.3 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
MP: 99.5 BB (VPIP: 20.37, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 56)
CO: 103.1 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 11)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9.5 BB, BTN calls 6.5 BB

Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) 7 6 Q
Hero bets 12 BB, BTN calls 12 BB

Turn: (43.5 BB, 2 players) J
Hero bets 22 BB, BTN raises to 58.6 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 36.6 BB

River: (160.7 BB, 2 players) 4

Hero shows K K (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 86%, Flop 82%, Turn 18%)
BTN shows J Q (Two Pair, Queens and Jacks) (Pre 14%, Flop 18%, Turn 82%)
BTN wins 153.5 BB


But also lolworthy stuff:

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 109 BB (VPIP: 29.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 9.89, Hands: 203)
Hero (SB): 109.3 BB
BB: 177.5 BB (VPIP: 19.44, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 36)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.50, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 13.43, Hands: 168)
MP: 110 BB (VPIP: 24.59, PFR: 21.31, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, Hands: 61)
CO: 39.3 BB (VPIP: 38.46, PFR: 38.46, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 13)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, MP calls 7 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) 8 3 9
Hero bets 12 BB, MP raises to 27 BB, Hero raises to 99.3 BB and is all-in, MP calls 72.3 BB

Turn: (219.6 BB, 2 players) K

River: (219.6 BB, 2 players) Q

Hero shows K A (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 58%, Flop 53%, Turn 82%)
MP shows 7 6 (High Card, King) (Pre 42%, Flop 47%, Turn 18%)
Hero wins 209.7 BB


Also played 3 FPP satties, got 3outed in all. GG August 5th imo unless I feel the urge to participate in the last happy hour of today.
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08-05-2013 , 12:13 PM
In for some run good Czech GL to ya sir

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inspired me to make one and stick with it also since I have tilt probs at times also should be up in next few days :~}
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08-06-2013 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SW_Kaizer
In for some run good Czech GL to ya sir

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inspired me to make one and stick with it also since I have tilt probs at times also should be up in next few days :~}
Thanks my man. Gl to you as well.

Had a solid day today, almost 7 BIs if I hadn't gotten 2 outered otr vs a shorty at the end. 50% zoom and 50% reg tables:



And this now gives me 30 BIs for NL25. Leggo. Shottaking time probably tomorrow. Wouldn't be a CzechFold post w/o some whining though: can't win a hand in the 235 FPP hypers to save my life no matter how much equity I gii with. Whatevs, guess I don't need RB as long as I'm #winning (hashtag for sharkbaitOHH).

Some hands from today:

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $10.12 (VPIP: 20.86, PFR: 18.12, 3Bet Preflop: 4.44, Hands: 143)
SB: $12.20 (VPIP: 13.47, PFR: 9.43, 3Bet Preflop: 2.13, Hands: 250)
BB: $14.69 (VPIP: 29.63, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 27)
Hero (UTG): $21.41
MP: $20.55 (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
CO: $31.58 (VPIP: 22.86, PFR: 15.43, 3Bet Preflop: 5.80, Hands: 182)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 3 3

Hero raises to $0.35, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.70, fold, Hero calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.50, 2 players) 3 3 K
SB bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40

Turn: ($4.30, 2 players) 9
SB bets $4.10, Hero calls $4.10

River: ($12.50, 2 players) J
SB bets $6.00 and is all-in, Hero calls $6.00

SB shows Q K (Two Pair, Kings and Threes) (Pre 48%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows 3 3 (Four of a Kind, Threes) (Pre 52%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins $23.40

13/10 spewing his brains out

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $9.83
SB: $18.04 (VPIP: 22.73, PFR: 20.45, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 45)
BB: $10.56 (VPIP: 22.73, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 22)
UTG: $10.56 (VPIP: 20.10, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 6.10, Hands: 429)
Hero (MP): $10.00
CO: $10.00 (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has T J

fold, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65, 2 players) 4 8 4
BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.45, 2 players) Q
BB checks, Hero bets $0.90, BB raises to $1.80, Hero calls $0.90

River: ($5.05, 2 players) 7
BB bets $2.40, Hero calls $2.40

BB shows A 7 (Two Pair, Sevens and Fours) (Pre 54%, Flop 44%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows T J (Flush, Queen High) (Pre 46%, Flop 56%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins $9.41

Tanked down to the last second on this one. Something about his timing didn't make sense, otherwise I think this is probably a fold


PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $12.54 (VPIP: 24.32, PFR: 24.32, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 79)
Hero (UTG): $10.00
CO: $15.09 (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 32.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
BTN: $13.13 (VPIP: 14.89, PFR: 6.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 47)
SB: $12.39 (VPIP: 16.90, PFR: 9.86, 3Bet Preflop: 3.33, Hands: 74)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has T T

Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, SB raises to $1.00, fold, Hero calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.10, 2 players) 6 3 J
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2.10, 2 players) 5
SB bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

River: ($4.50, 2 players) 8
SB bets $2.60, Hero calls $2.60

SB shows 2 2 (One Pair, Twos) (Pre 17%, Flop 10%, Turn 14%)
Hero shows T T (One Pair, Tens) (Pre 83%, Flop 90%, Turn 86%)
Hero wins $9.26

Biggest hand I lost was actually this one and I'd really appreciate some comments on it.
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08-07-2013 , 04:49 AM
Taking most of the day off, so a little update before I shottake NL25.

Month:


NL10 YTD:



YTD:
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08-07-2013 , 04:58 AM
^

gorgeous graphs man, keep crushing and gl at 25NL
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08-07-2013 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by madim
^

gorgeous graphs man, keep crushing and gl at 25NL
tyvm. Wanted to post them before they get demolished by NL25.
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08-08-2013 , 04:22 AM
First day at NL25. Totally sick:

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Not. Mix of reg tables and zoom, up exactly 2 cheeseburgers at each. When I was up a BI I said to a friend on skype that this would be the first time I'd win a bit when taking a shot. Obv proceeded to get shat on over the next 15 min. Not a losing session though, so vamooo.

If you play it like a turd...

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $25.00
SB: $28.10 (VPIP: 14.81, PFR: 7.41, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 27)
BB: $25.35 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
UTG: $50.58 (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 22)
MP: $25.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)
CO: $38.38 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J Q

fold, fold, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.00, fold, fold, CO calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.35, 2 players) 8 9 K
CO bets $0.25, Hero raises to $1.75, CO calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.85, 2 players) T
CO checks, Hero bets $4.25, CO calls $4.25

River: ($14.35, 2 players) 3
CO checks, Hero bets $10.50, CO calls $10.50

Hero shows J Q (Straight, King High) (Pre 15%, Flop 18%, Turn 80%)
CO mucks A A (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 85%, Flop 82%, Turn 20%)
Hero wins $33.76


All my bigger pots lost were basically whiffed 3/4bet pots or c/r and turn barrels getting jammed on etc. Got cold 4bet a ton today when I was light as well.

Did not like this turn at all. Prob not the best play in a vacuum but something felt fishy here. Almost folded river too:

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $25.35 (VPIP: 24.51, PFR: 22.55, 3Bet Preflop: 13.16, Hands: 108)
BB: $25.08 (VPIP: 24.64, PFR: 20.29, 3Bet Preflop: 2.08, Hands: 143)
UTG: $10.00 (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
MP: $25.00 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 14)
CO: $25.08 (VPIP: 25.49, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 54)
Hero (BTN): $28.51

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has K Q

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, fold, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35, 3 players) 7 Q 9
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $1.50, BB calls $1.50, fold

Turn: ($5.35, 2 players) K
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($5.35, 2 players) 6
BB bets $2.75, Hero calls $2.75

BB shows J T (Straight, King High) (Pre 36%, Flop 32%, Turn 91%)
Hero mucks K Q (Two Pair, Kings and Queens) (Pre 64%, Flop 68%, Turn 9%)
BB wins $10.36


This one I'm not sure about:

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $41.51 (VPIP: 17.79, PFR: 14.23, 3Bet Preflop: 7.38, Hands: 284)
SB: $17.52 (VPIP: 46.67, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
Hero (BB): $33.80
UTG: $17.74 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP: $43.34 (VPIP: 19.23, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 26)
CO: $62.73 (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 66.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Q K

fold, MP raises to $0.75, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60, 2 players) 7 2 Q
Hero checks, MP bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.00, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($4.00, 2 players) K
Hero bets $2.50, MP raises to $7.10, WAT DAFUQ DOES HERO DO?

MP wins $8.60

I think all 3 options are valid pre. Otr I'm super confused because I think most people aren't checking back fd's or sets ott much. I think otr he could even be value raising AK some % of the time (doubt he ever has KK esp since I'm blocking that). Maybe I'm still too used to NL2-5 where a turn/river raise = nuts every time. Is this a trivial call?
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08-08-2013 , 01:23 PM
^^ without any reads I'm happy folding at 25nl tbh.

Questions: You 3betting KQo sometimes in the BB v SB? Also, whats your calling range look like in the blinds versus mid position opens?
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08-08-2013 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffLee
^^ without any reads I'm happy folding at 25nl tbh.

Questions: You 3betting KQo sometimes in the BB v SB? Also, whats your calling range look like in the blinds versus mid position opens?
I obv ended up folding but I think it may be a mistake actually. I beat some value hands he can be doing this with and I assume a vast majority of 25 regs barrel their fd's ott. And if I'm in his spot I'd bluff raise this card very happily as hero is gonna be vbetting his Q's almost always.

I generally don't 3bet KQo bvb. I think people tend to 4bet a lot of their Ax and Kx when they get 3bet bvb. It's def ahead of almost anyone's sb opening range but I wanna play it being IP and all and I can't really justify calling a 4bet vs pretty much any reasonable reg at this limit with this hand. Doesn't really make much sense to me to 3bet it. I also have a fairly polarized 3betting range in the blinds at uNL and I've been told by multiple regs who play way higher that it's the way to go.

I don't have a static flatting range in the blinds (unless I'm playing HUDless). It depends on villain's opening size and who's in the BB. If I'm BB I can flat a fairly wide range vs a 2-3x open (broadways, PP's, some JTs, J9s etc, AJ or maybe AQ depending on who's raising). When there's a squeeze happy player in the BB I tend to not flat too much from the SB. Also I don't like to flat speculative hands (SC's and one-gappers) in the SB because BB will be getting a ridic price and will have to call with a super wide range, making me OOP to 2 players. Don't mind it when I'm set mining though.
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08-08-2013 , 02:34 PM
KQ is a easy valuebet on the turn.



fold KQo pre, cant imagine it plays all that well against a 19/15 MP range at all
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08-08-2013 , 02:36 PM
^^ Thanks for the detailed reply, I was just curious
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