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View Poll Results: SO WHAT DO YOU THINK IS A REALISTIC ANNUAL EARNING OF AN "A" PLAYER GRINDING $1/$2NLHE?
LESS THAN $22K
393 12.67%
$22K TO $28K
453 14.60%
$28K TO $34K
505 16.27%
$34K TO $40K
528 17.02%
$40K TO $46K
295 9.51%
MORE THAN $46K
929 29.94%

04-12-2015 , 02:57 PM
@fluke22 Pat played great! He always does!

This one hurts, my first red mark. Thought I played great last night but it just wasn't in the cards. Hopefully that will be the only red mark on the goals.

I'm currently behind the 8ball this month and just trying to avoid another red mark by booking a positive April. I wd hate to mark another goal in red...the goal of no losing months this this year.

I feel pretty gd about 2 goals: 1) averaging 25hrs/wk, and 2) getting my diamond card (by logging 1000 hrs in a yr at HSI poker room). I'm confident that those 2 goals will b achieved. Right now I'm averaging a little over 29hrs/wk at the felt (cash/tourney combined). I'm also one third the way to diamond status w 8 months to go.

The $2k winning sesh on 1/2nl & $5k winning sesh on 2/5/10 will be difficult goal to achieve, but obtainable w some run gd. I put the odds at this goal 50/50 for each one. Hopefully I can reach one of those goals if not both.

The 24hr sesh goal will b done, just trying to think of a gd time to tackle this one. I may have to gv it a go towards the end of this month if it means climbing my way out of the red.

Stay tuned...

MY 10 POKER GOALS FOR 2015.

-Be up 6 stacks of high society by the end of 2015 playing 1/2nl up to 10/20nl. $60,000.
-No Losing Months.
-Log an average of 25/hrs a week.
-Come in top 3 in the WSOP League Finale. Getting top 3 will win me a Las Vegas tourney package. (WSOP Packages are: $11k, $4k, $1,500. Finale is April 11, 2015). (*ended up getting 5th in Finale )
-Log 1,000+ hours at Horseshoe Southern Indiana's poker room. This feat will take me from platinum to diamond card. (1,000hr requirement in a year to get diamond).

-Log 200 hrs in Jan and get the $400 promotional bonus HSI is offering. (HSI rake back promotion for Jan rewards a player $2 x hrs logged. 200+hrs requirement). (*Logged 202 hrs in Jan)
-Have a $10k winning month. (*January +$10,151 Overall)
-Have a $5k winning session playing 2/5nl or higher.
-Have a $2k winning session playing 1/2nl.
-Play a 24hr session.


All 2015 goals will b posted in blue. If I complete a goal, I will move it from blue to green. If a goal fails, I will move it from blue to red.

I greatly appreciate everyone for keeping me focused and motivated.
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04-12-2015 , 08:15 PM
What does the diamond card get you?
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04-13-2015 , 01:28 AM
Ray, what are your thoughts on the $1/$2/$5 games? I played this weekend at HSI, but was playing $2/$5/$10 most of the time and $1/$2 because I didn't know about the straddle $1/$2/$5.

It seems like a good idea to have a step between $1/$2 and $2/$5.
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04-13-2015 , 10:25 AM
Saturday night was a tough one and the reality of it sits in even more today. I thought you played great and I was sure you were going to find a way to get in that top 3. I misplayed 2 hands to Dave and the last one cost me and of course, that is all I can think about.

The hand I really want to know is when we were 8 handed, blinds 3K/6K and Pat opens from the cutoff to 15K. I have 1010 in the sb and I am torn between raising and calling. I have 160K and I know Pat has around 60K behind. He plays so tight, I really don't want to call off with 1010 against him so I flat and the BB flats. The flop is 992 and I check and bb checks and Pat moves all in for around 60K. I am now mad at myself because nothing has changed and my call gave me no information. I think his range is any pair (lower or higher than mine) and Big Aces or 2 face cards. I wish I would have just made it 40K preflop and he would have shipped or folded. I ended up folding because it was Pat.

As far as your 24 hour session, I don't know what your Derby plans are but you could go in on Oaks and play through Derby day with a ton of action. Once Churchill closes that Friday, the poker room is packed through Sunday. Just a thought, good luck!
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04-13-2015 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BigSoonerFan
What does the diamond card get you?
Never been diamond, but this is my understanding of the perks...
Diamond:
-gets u put on the top of every poker list. (Limits the wait time)
-free food in the diamond lounge. And cocktails
-free $100 every year
-more special offers through mail
-diamond lines at cashiers cages/buffet/reward center/etc.
-special deals on hotels...maybe comped rooms???
-gift giveaways

Really not sure of all the perks, or the difference in poker diamond and regular diamond. Guess I'll find out when I get it. I'm interested in the top of poker list and free food in diamond lounge. Free food means I can run up my comp game even more.

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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
Ray, what are your thoughts on the $1/$2/$5 games? I played this weekend at HSI, but was playing $2/$5/$10 most of the time and $1/$2 because I didn't know about the straddle $1/$2/$5.

It seems like a good idea to have a step between $1/$2 and $2/$5.
My thoughts is I like it, and agree it's gd to have something in between 1/2. & 2/5/10. My only thing I don't like is I wish it was 1/3/5 instead of 1/2/5. If it was 1/3/5 players cd sit down w $500. All 1/3s hv a $100-$500 (plus half big stack) buy in. If the 1/2/5 is playing deep then it's not an issue. But if no one has more than $800, I rather see it played 1/3/5 and b able to buy in for $500.

Wish it wd go more often. Mayb I'll start a 1/3/5 list for it every morning, and see if it can build.

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Originally Posted by Tobe Decided
Saturday night was a tough one and the reality of it sits in even more today. I thought you played great and I was sure you were going to find a way to get in that top 3. I misplayed 2 hands to Dave and the last one cost me and of course, that is all I can think about.

The hand I really want to know is when we were 8 handed, blinds 3K/6K and Pat opens from the cutoff to 15K. I have 1010 in the sb and I am torn between raising and calling. I have 160K and I know Pat has around 60K behind. He plays so tight, I really don't want to call off with 1010 against him so I flat and the BB flats. The flop is 992 and I check and bb checks and Pat moves all in for around 60K. I am now mad at myself because nothing has changed and my call gave me no information. I think his range is any pair (lower or higher than mine) and Big Aces or 2 face cards. I wish I would have just made it 40K preflop and he would have shipped or folded. I ended up folding because it was Pat.

As far as your 24 hour session, I don't know what your Derby plans are but you could go in on Oaks and play through Derby day with a ton of action. Once Churchill closes that Friday, the poker room is packed through Sunday. Just a thought, good luck!
@tobedecided thanks. Thought u played gd too.
My only concern about the hand in question is I see Pat w 60k at 6kbb, and he chooses to 2.5x the button oppose to shipping his last 10bigs.
My thoughts are what hands wd he 2.5x oppose to ship??? Mayb he is wanting action w a strong hand by 2.5xing, OR mayb it's just all pairs plus KJ+. Who knows???
With that said, I don't mind the flat pre, but I can never fold the overpair otf. I feel Pat wd think this is a gd flop for his hand w all pairs and even Ace high hands...especially when checked to him. I wd hv def ch/called or led out on this flop. If he has it, he has it, and u still have 17 bigs to play w.
U still had a gd showing!

Gd idea on Oaks and Derby. I remember last year I won $5k on Derby Day, so it's gonna b hard not to play that day.

Today: decided to take a drive to Indy and play in a soft 2/5 game (from what I hear). The plan was to grind 1/2 the rest of the month until I got in the black, but I hear this game is really really really really gd so gonna gv it a shot w a $500 buy in.
Never thought I'd drive 2 hours to play in a cash game at a Knights of Columbus building. This is lol, but can already tell it's packed w action. What I like best so far is the windows where I can see the sunshine outside.
I think I'm gonna like it! Let u know later how I do.

This is the parking lot full of cars...


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04-13-2015 , 01:45 PM
Pat raising to 2.5 bbs out of a 10bb stack is always QQ+. Maybe even tighter.

He's already called me about the hand. I thought his raise size was very bad and could give away his hand strength. He had KK.
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04-13-2015 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Fluke22
Pat raising to 2.5 bbs out of a 10bb stack is always QQ+. Maybe even tighter.

He's already called me about the hand. I thought his raise size was very bad and could give away his hand strength. He had KK.
Fluke, that is what I was thinking but with $3K in the pot I hate my play because I turned 1010 into set mining. If I make it 40K and he ships, I am forced to call the rest knowing I am most likely behind. My call gave me 0 information, even though I put him on a hand bigger than 1010, just a really bad play.

Thanks for the info, I knew he would have told me after the game but he took a terrible beat from Dave and his monster stack and left in a hurry.
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04-13-2015 , 06:15 PM
Enjoying reading through this thread. I'm heading up to HSI for the 1st time (from Nashville) this weekend and was trying to gather as much info as i could about the poker room there. Even though the rake is probably too high, i'll be playing in the Midnight tourney and some 1/2. Thanks for your insight about the Casino/poker room up there
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04-13-2015 , 08:49 PM
@tobedecided. It looks like u made the correct move. That tells u what I know. I haven't been right in a lot of decision makings lately.

Knights of Flipping Columbus Experience:

-the poker game started in a small room w big windows, then moved to a bigger room w 2 big projector screen tvs on ESPN. We had to pack up our chips and walk down the hall.

-8 games running during mid day. A few 1/3nl, and a couple 2/5nl, and 1 5/10nl, and 1 1/2/5plo.

- straddles are allowed, run it twice is allowed, buy in for $500 (1/3nl) $1k (2/5nl) or 75% of the big stack. If u bust u can't short buy and "suppose" to buy in for max (not including 75%).

-1 armed police officer on hand. Seems pretty safe.

-rake is 5% up to $5, and an additional $1 on pots over $100. No tipping during play, but encouraged at the end of session.

-saw 2 guys go all in dark for $800. Everyone at the table agreed to sit out one hand and let these 2 gamblers go at it. Prior to this, the Q7 guy had $2k in chips, and just lost everything.
He rebuys back in for $800 and is super tilted and wants to flip someone for it. One guy obliges.
Dealer deals just them 2 players hands face up. Mr. Tilt gets Q7 and the other degen is dealt Q5.
Mr. Tilt loves his Q7 pre vs. Mr. Degen's Q5........until 556 came otf. Mr. Tilt leaves on uber tilt.

-tables, chairs, and chips are equivalent to a garage game. I didn't hv any problems w the dealers. They all rotate and seem competent.

~still wondering how all this is legal. I've seen home games get busted, but this KOC is somehow legit. Anyone know how so????

*For my experience, I liked it and hated it. the action was pretty gd and pots get pretty big. Although I wdnt say their r tons of fish like I heard, but a few people have some gamble. My table seemed pretty legit w many thinking players mixed in w a few recreational.
I'll prolly head back sometime in the future once I get back on the right track. Which times like now seems like never.
This first trip up north wasn't a profitable one...I went busto in 5 hrs. I ran it down, then ran it up, and then ran it into the ground. Mainly on 2 big draws on 2 separate hands that missed. The last one being aiof, and bricking.
Life is still gd. No worries. Gonna continue the fight tomo. Nothing like a gd challenge to get in the black.
#noquit

I got home and ran 2 miles while my oldest daughter rode alongside on her ten speed. Trying to do what I can to clear my mind. The run helped.


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Enjoying reading through this thread. I'm heading up to HSI for the 1st time (from Nashville) this weekend and was trying to gather as much info as i could about the poker room there. Even though the rake is probably too high, i'll be playing in the Midnight tourney and some 1/2. Thanks for your insight about the Casino/poker room up there
Thanks @blueraiderfan.
After graduating college, I taught middle school math in Nashville and absolutely love that place. It was about 15 years ago when I lived in Capitol Tower Condo right in the heart of downtown. Every weekend I wd ride my mountain bike throughout the downtown to catch some gd music, gd drinks, and tried real hard to find a lovely companion. I was pretty gd in doing 2 out of 3. I put in some serious overtime at the other one, but my dating game was as broke as my poker is right now. Those were the glory days! Sure do miss 2nd Ave, Printers Alley, 12th&PPorter, Titans games, Ryman Aud., Tootsies, Exit Inn., etc .
Saw so many awesome live shows at some pretty epic venues. Ryan Adams, JayHawks, Lucinda Williams, Matthew Ryan, Wilco, Steve Earl, etc. etc. etc.
Only reason I transeferred teaching jobs back to southern Indiana was my mom was terminally ill w cancer, and I wanted to be close to her. During her last year of fight. Otherwise, I'd prob still b living there today. Wow that's crazy. Wonder what my life wd b like if I still lived there??? Wd I even b playing poker???? Hv kids??? Oh well, I'm glad I am where I am today. My kids are my world. The poker has been great for the last decade. And I'm in a gd spot in life. It's all meant to be.
Sorry about the ramble, tidbits on HSI:
-Friday and Saturday will b gd action for u. Friday is the midnight T that u plan on playing and they will get around 80-100 players.
-dealers are pretty gd, but chatty. Not sure if anyone cares, but not a fan of the chatty dealers while I'm playing.
-5% rake up to $5. Plus $1 drop for bbj on pots over $20.
-limit bbj is $200k (quad 6s qualifier), and no limit is around $60k (quad Js qualifier).
-not sure if u plan on staying at the HSI hotel, but if u are- check the mattress! A couple weeks ago my fam was going to stay there during spring break, and we saw bed bugs!! It was nasty and left 30 mins after we arrived in the room. Room 239 if need to know. My gf is pretty anal about hotel rooms and she always checks stuff like that. Sure glad she did! Yuck! We took a couple pics to show the manager, and also got a video of a live bed bug crawling across the comforter. Nasty!!


-u earn a $1/hr on total rewards comp.
-1/2 has a $100-$300 buy in. Plus half big stack rule. U can straddle from any position. Not a lot of 3betting in 1/2 and if it happens it's likely its QQ+.
-from what I hear the midnight will play pretty fast, and it's a shove fest towards the end.
-if u hear someone being loud and holding a Bud Light, chances are that's #Allstate.
-b careful on the stretch road leading to the boat. People sometimes drive crazy on that hwy111,, so buckle up and b cautious.
-poker room on 1st floor and no smoking on that floor.
-if u need a break and fresh air, the deck is a gd chill place to unwind.
-gd mix of players at 1/2nl. Play smart.
Best of luck
Can't think of anything else.
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04-13-2015 , 09:41 PM
The 1010 tournament hand I am never folding for the 60 shove. We are doing to good against their range of smaller pairs and Ak hands. Not to mention. The good pot odds.
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04-14-2015 , 01:15 PM
HSI is getting to b lol.
It irks me that now HSI staff is dipping into the player's promo fund. It's just shady. If they want some sort of raise; then do better business that attracts more players. Don't take from the players' wallets.

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04-14-2015 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
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~still wondering how all this is legal. I've seen home games get busted, but this KOC is somehow legit. Anyone know how so????
.........
Sounds similar to our charity poker rooms here in Michigan that get licenses from the state lottery commission, but bigger and armed security which I have not seen here surprisingly so if I go I take my own means of personal defense.
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04-14-2015 , 01:55 PM
I've always wondered since the room is on the first or bottom floor if you will, do you feel the room gets many casual players and would a move to the third floor which I think where you get on help? I agree that the administrative fee is shady. I wonder why Indiana gaming laws permit this too. I would think they have IGC approval since it's posted on Facebook, but stranger things have happened.

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04-14-2015 , 05:57 PM
Dammit BS, I wish I would've known you were gonna be @ KOC yesterday! I was there, sitting @ 5/10. My local watering hole...😈

Next time you come up, hit me up. There's a great Mexican place down the street. Lunch/dinner on me...
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04-16-2015 , 01:13 AM
@ylongintheface not sure. Actually I might b done w HSI for awhile. It's too frustrating for me to play there. They r driving their players away by poor management, and the player pool is lacking. I hv done everything I cd to keep this place going, but I'm exhausted.
They honestly need a new supervisor. Someone who knows poker and has experience in what the player's want.
I m going to try to boycott HSI as long as possible. It's the only thing I can do. I've expressed all my ideas, as have other players, but still same ole same ole.
Im taking my talents elsewhere until I see change.

@rufus2012 I plan on being there more often. KOC actually runs a gd game. I was pleasantly surprised. I like that u can run the all ins twice there.
I may actually b there Friday, but no need to treat for dinner. Appreciate the kind gesture.
What days do they play no limit on the south side? I hear south side isn't as gd, but just curious on ur thoughts.
Best of luck. I'm sure we will b playing 5/10nl there together soon.

A couple hands from today.
2/5nl in Cincy...

I get back from a lunch break and up $400 from my $500 starting stack.

I notice a couple new players at the table, and my third hand back I find my way into a pickle.

Villain: new player and no history at all. Business type, well dressed, mid 50s, sporting a nice gold chain, first impression-smart/conservative/rec player. Sitting in seat 8 w $600 stack.

Me: $900 stack. Seat 4

Other stacks range from $400-$1200

Button on me in seat 4.
seat 7/utg opens $15, villain in seat 8 calls, seat 9 calls, seat 2 calls, seat 3 calls.
I look down at KJ and decide to 3bet to $55. I wish I wd have made it a bit more, but oh well.
Utg calls, villain in +1 calls, and the rest fold.
Pot is $215, 3 handed to the flop of A59.
Utg checks, villain checks, and I'm thinking this is a pretty gd flop for my hand. Why not try to take it down right here semi bluffing w my nut flush draw. I look at the stacks of my opponents and see both now have around $500, so I decided to bet $110. My plan is if they call $110, and the turn bricks then I hv enough to maybe bet them off ott.
Utg folds to $110, Villain calls leaving him about $400 behind.
Pot is now $435, Heads up going to the turn.
The turn is a brick 6
Villain checks, and I now I'm thinking well my initial flop plan was to size bet accordingly to leave them w a big $400 decision ott w my second barrel big shove. So that's what I did. I'm all-in hoping I can induce the fold right here. Nope. Villain calls.
Pot is now $1235, and I need a miracle club.
River is another brick, Q.
I toss over my hand over, and villain waits for a few seconds. I think he thought I had a winner, but after realizing it's just K high, he turns over his set of 5s.

Anything but a set or 2 pair ott, I may b able to get sm folds. Mayb I shd hv checked behind ott, but it's hard after he checks to me and I hv an opportunity to take it it down.
Bad timing, and bad bricks.

Now I'm down $200 and sit w $300 stack. Time to build it up again.

I work my way up to a $800 stack, then I decide to get crafty again. I just can't help myself.
When I see a spot I go for it. I thought this next hand was a gd spot, but I was trembling in my boots.

$10 straddle and pretty much the whole table limps. I'm in the cutoff and also limp the Q9. The bb in seat 7 sees $70 out in the middle and shoves his $135 short stack. I know that he is a gd thinking player, and I'm wondering if he is trying to steal. *I saw him do something similar w 78 an orbit earlier for a $60 all in pre after many $5 limps. So now I'm wondering if it's a hand or making another play at the pot.

Folds to seat 1, and surprisngly limp/calls the $135 shove.
Seat 1 has about $1k stack, but his call didn't seem real strong. Meaning, I'm thinking he wdnt limp hands like Aces, Kings, Queens, or Jacks in middle position on a straddle. Unless he is trying to trap, but didn't seem like the trapping type.

Folds to me, and I shd prob just let these hands go, but I can't help myself.
My thinking is if I can make a 3 bet shove here, am I'm certain seat 1 wd fold???
Well, I decide to make that move and go w my read. I ridiculously shove all in for $800.
My thinking is I can possibly get heads up w tons of dead money, and "may" even have the best hand against short stack's shove.

Now action back on Seat 1 to call $650ish more, and tanks for ever.
I was happy he didn't snap, but I'm sensing he is leaning towards a call. He starts analyzing the hand, and this is where I thought I was in trouble. He says "why wd u limp the cutoff, and then shove?". He also say, "Seems like a bad spot to limp if u had plans to raise."

I'm thinking to myself... I thought this was a recreational player not a thinking player! Oh no, he is going to figure this out and I'm going to get felted.
He tanks for a gd 3 minutes and I'm not sure whether to call the clock, sit quietly, take a drink of water, peek at my cards, or what. I'm thinking what can I do to get this guy to fold. I'm not allowed to talk about my hand since a 3rd guy is all in for $135, so I just continue to sit and act comfortably.

It's these moments where I feel alive. I'm either so close to getting felted, or so close to pulling off a big move. It's a pretty cool feeling, but wdnt advise it too often.
Seat 1 is so 50/50 here! He is put to the ultimate test, and has no idea what to do.
Luckily for me, he eventually folds.

Pot is $470ish
Heads up w short stack.
Well he wasn't making a play and not stealing at all! He had a hand! Fish flipping hooks! JJ

Q22 otf ! 4 ott . Ace on the river.
I win! Q9>JJ

*Seat 1 folded AK, and wd hv felted me!

Got away w one

+$604 today, but still over $1k down this month.

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04-16-2015 , 11:00 AM
@BS what's the drive to HCO? That may be a good alternative to HSI. I'm going back up to play the satellite again tonight because the seats are transferable. Every Thursday in april is a satellite so I wouldn't mind selling some seats on main event day. Also HCO competition is better than cinci IMO..
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04-16-2015 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
HSI is getting to b lol.
It irks me that now HSI staff is dipping into the player's promo fund. It's just shady. If they want some sort of raise; then do better business that attracts more players. Don't take from the players' wallets.

That is just bad business. What exactly are the administration duties required that justify 10%? Hopefully other ceasers properties dont start doing this as well.

Most likely just another attempt of their money grabbing ways & a signal of how poorly their overall business is.
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04-16-2015 , 01:24 PM
I'm sure we could analyze the Q9 hand 'til the cows come home but I won't. Just wanted to say; hell of a move BS!

Seat 1 had a great read on the situation but couldn't act on it. You, on the other hand, had the balls to make the play. Right or wrong, having the courage to act on reads is paramount in NL...it also helps to suck out on the all in/original raiser
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04-16-2015 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
@rufus2012 I plan on being there more often. KOC actually runs a gd game. I was pleasantly surprised. I like that u can run the all ins twice there.
I may actually b there Friday, but no need to treat for dinner. Appreciate the kind gesture.
What days do they play no limit on the south side? I hear south side isn't as gd, but just curious on ur thoughts.
Best of luck. I'm sure we will b playing 5/10nl there together soon.
Well, I don't hafta buy your dinner Ray, mostly just wanna pick your brain

Ok, here's the lowdown...

KOC North:
-Public welcome. You can get kicked out if you're outta control tho, just like a casino.
-runs noon to midnight on MON & WED.
-runs a GREAT game. staff is excellent, dealers are good, some better than others. Tip your dealer as you're leaving.
-usually only one 5/10 game per day - you need to get on the list early. I have a # for you, text it around noon to get on the list - they will keep you on the list for hours if necessary. There are a handful of 2/5 and 1/3 games.
-You can actually run it more than twice if your villain agrees. Just FYI
-good eats. catered finger food from noon to 3p-ish. 6p is dinner (sometimes good / sometimes bad), they always bring out snacks / candy afterwards. KOC North also has a menu from which you can order really good food.
-Security. Always one cop in the building keeping an eye on things. Changing of the guard occasionally, usually another uniformed officer outside sitting in a patrol car. That being said, robberies have happened. I've never witnessed any (knock on wood), but I've heard stories. Be happy to fill you in in person.
-Also be happy to give you a rundown of particular villains / style of play / any live reads, etc.. Many of the 2/5 and almost all of the 5/10 plyrs are staples at this location.

KOC South:
-Public welcome here too.
-run by a guy named Bombay. Bombay likes to play PLO @ KOC North, so you'll see him there as well. Nice guy.
-Staff of dealers and waitresses are pretty good here as well, different lineup than north.
-love the location cause it's literally 1 minute off 465.
-runs every Friday & Saturday. Starts around 2 or 3p Friday. Nice thing about KOC South is that the games can run past midnight. They will keep the room open until all the players leave. Friday's games stop at noon on Saturday. Play starts again @ 3p Saturday. Saturday's games have to be done by midnight unfortunately.
-armed po-po here as well.
-They'll spread 1/3 and 2/5. 5/10 and PLO games will happen at players' request.
-Bombay usually orders pizza or some other shyt food around 7p, then will make a taco hell or white castle run around 2am
-There's usually a masseuse on the floor at south.

Thoughts re North vs. South:
-you'll see many of the same players at both locations. There is definitely a more diverse lineup at south though, at the lower limits. A few players at south never play at north, and vice versa.
-Friday night games at South are awesome, just wish they could go past midnight on Saturdays as well.
-How is it legal? they have a license to run a game twice a week. I've asked why they don't run it more often. Staff said they can't wrestle the license out of the old ladies' hands who wanna play bingo and not poker

Any other questions, thoughts...PM me. Let me know if you're coming, and I'll make sure & introduce myself. Safe travels Ray. Good luck buddy.
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04-16-2015 , 07:46 PM
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I'm sure we could analyze the Q9 hand 'til the cows come home but I won't. Just wanted to say; hell of a move BS!

Seat 1 had a great read on the situation but couldn't act on it. You, on the other hand, had the balls to make the play. Right or wrong, having the courage to act on reads is paramount in NL...it also helps to suck out on the all in/original raiser
No need to analyze a hand as long as it's a won hand! Not to say that I agree with q9 being better than % 50 against villan. I think the best we can hope for is that we have 2 overs to villans 22-88 or up against a2- random suited. It's the times where we're up against 10 10 + where both our cards aren't live that makes me more apt to only make this move with a pair of 66+.
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04-16-2015 , 10:56 PM
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@BS what's the drive to HCO? That may be a good alternative to HSI. I'm going back up to play the satellite again tonight because the seats are transferable. Every Thursday in april is a satellite so I wouldn't mind selling some seats on main event day. Also HCO competition is better than cinci IMO..
The drive is 1hr 40mins going 80-85mph, but in October a new bridge opens up where it will cut 20 mins off the drive.
What do u win for the satty on Thursdays?
I agree Cincy is softer.
Prolly head there tomo morning.

@rufus2012 thanks for all the info. Very kind! Appreciate it very much!!!
I sure do wish the south side got started earlier than 2 or 3p. Since its a 1hr 40min drive I wd like start earlier and try to get home at a decent time, so that one wdnt work for me.
But I will def b back to the north side. I liked my first experience there. Prolly head there next Monday.

@sofo @bubonicplay yeah the Qh9h is questionable. I truly understand it may b iffy on a +EV long term play. Very borderline.

Here's further breakdown of how I saw it...

First I hv to b certain seat 1 wd fold to the 3 bet which I thought he wd. But it was too close!! Mayb too close for comfort, and prolly not worth trying something like this too many times in the future.

Secondly, if I do get seat 1 to fold then I am getting 2.5:1 on my $135 to win $335 (bringing the total pot to $470). Thus, I need to be on the better side of a 40/60 dog vs. short stack's hand for it to b long term +ev.

Q). So what hands do short stack need to show up w for my play to b profitable?
A). All pairs 88 and under, and all other hands where I'm above 40% dog.
*AceX (excluding AK,AQ) hands are pretty much even money.
**What I didnt want to see is the short stack show up w 99+, and AK,AQ,KQ,QJ,Q10,A9,K9. These hands I'm less than 40% making my play -Ev long term.

So my thought process....what hands most likely is short stack holding in this spot?
I thought honestly short stack cd hv a very wide range here being last to act before the straddler. So I thought he cd make a play at the $70 limped straddled pot shoving wide.
Him being a thinking player, and seen him do something similar an orbit earlier gave me more reason to believe it cd b a wide range. Therefore, I think on an average I am on the better side of 40/60 in this type of spot. That's where I need to b for it to b a profitable play. 40%+ is the magic number

This time I was wrong, and JJvsQh9h put me at a 32.5% dog. I needed to b 40%+. Although I do think on average in these scenarios I'm going to b 40%+ more times than not from this type of player.
He happened to hv a hand, but still believe he wd shove many other hands in that spot where I'm getting gd value from.

With all that said, I may hv pushed too small of an edge. No need to push small edges when I feel I hv a bigger edge vs. the table.

I'm not the best of explaining things, so apologize if u can't follow my weird wired brain. Just wanted to eleborate further on this crazy hand.
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04-17-2015 , 01:38 AM
So getting the diamond card is off the list now huh?
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04-17-2015 , 06:29 AM
Would you make the same play with A 6 off suit?
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04-17-2015 , 11:09 AM
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Ok, here's the lowdown...

KOC North:
-runs a GREAT game. staff is excellent, dealers are good, some better than others. Tip your dealer as you're leaving.
I have a question on the bolded area above. So the only time you tip is when you leave? What about the losers? If they truly go broke, they don't tip despite possibly winning several hands throughout the night? This seems like it would not motivate the dealers to get out hands?

Then how do you gage your tip? Do you tip a percentage of your winnings? Or say, well I won $2,000 but it only won 6 hands so I tip them $6? This would make me uncomfortable. I play home games where I tip the dealers when they push me the pot, I would feel bad if I went broke and never got to tip them OR they expected me to hit the ATM one more time and give them $20.
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04-17-2015 , 12:52 PM
@tobedecided I thought about that too. ^ I didn't tip because I never left w chips.

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So getting the diamond card is off the list now huh?
Not sure how long I'm gonna hold out on HSI, I may come back next month or may hold out longer. I'm tired of poor management, lack of effort, and all the dumb shenanigans, so I'm taking a stand.
There is no player pool anymore because all the higher stakes players left. HSI does nothing to support bigger games, nor do they care. I went to Cincy a couple days ago (and here now), and see a dozen players from Louisville playing there. I can't say I blame them because now I'm doing the same thing. I feel most of them wd come back if a new supervisor was in place w w some overhauling, revamping, and a better game plan.

IF all this means not getting diamond so be it. Some things are worth taking a stand for.
It cd b a super easy goal to get diamond if I continued to play there. I'm pretty much at the halfway pt right now. * I heard its 850ish hours (not 1000 hrs).
Mayb if hours transfer to Cincy, then I may still have a chance. Also as much as I wd not like to play at HSI, it will b hard to stay away being so close. Right now I'm taking a break from there because lately they been rubbing me the wrong way. It's too tilting at the moment.


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Would you make the same play with A 6 off suit?
I wdnt play A6off, and fold pre.
But if I did limp $10 pre, and it got back to me to call $135 or shove... it wd b tempting, but I wd fold. Primarily because I think it's more likely short stack wd b shoving AceX hands and all pairs where I'm crushed (unless 55-, A6-). Plus if by slim chance I got called by seat 1, then I'm drawing pretty much dead w A6off agianst his range. It doesn't really give me any type of escape plan. If u catch my drift.
Q9 I feel I am more live agianst short stack's range. A6 is close for me, but I wd most likely wdnt b in that spot. I'm either folding A6 off or raising big in the cutoff. Majority of time just folding.

Tbh, I can b thinking about all this backwards, but that's just how my brain works.
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