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View Poll Results: SO WHAT DO YOU THINK IS A REALISTIC ANNUAL EARNING OF AN "A" PLAYER GRINDING $1/$2NLHE?
LESS THAN $22K
395 12.72%
$22K TO $28K
454 14.62%
$28K TO $34K
505 16.26%
$34K TO $40K
528 17.00%
$40K TO $46K
295 9.50%
MORE THAN $46K
929 29.91%

01-02-2022 , 01:31 PM
Can we beat Sports Betting in 2022?
-place 5 bets a week.
-$2k total each week ($100min-$1kmax on single bets)
-keep a running track of: overall record, total $ amounts on placed bets, and a current +/- $ amount.
-each bet will b mentioned here (or pictured) prior to game. #fulltransparency
*only place these weekly bets when xlm is over .29. Any week xlm is below, we do not bet.

Week 1).

$300 wager on 2leg parlay.



3 Straight bets of $400, $100, $1,000



$200 wager on 4leg parlay.


Total bets $2k.
All games are today and 1 mnf.
Riding Ben Roeth last home game on MNF. Heavy on Steelers.

We will keep running tracks of bets throughout the year. #fulltransparency.
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01-02-2022 , 02:04 PM
Parlays are dumb bets.
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01-02-2022 , 02:06 PM
San Francisco 49ers bet: You are risking $1000 to win $125?

I really hate bets like that even if it's 'printing' money.
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01-02-2022 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
Tons of research
Would you mind linking the youtube video(s)? I'd like to check it out.
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01-02-2022 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Would you mind linking the youtube video(s)? I'd like to check it out.

Not sure if this is a troll. I’m getting too old to not notice the difference anymore.
Anyways, I don’t rely only on utube vids. My dd is done on many different platforms.
Since u asked, this is my fav.

https://youtu.be/H4Ynmf7hMkg
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01-02-2022 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
Not sure if this is a troll. I’m getting too old to not notice the difference anymore.
Anyways, I don’t rely only on utube vids. My dd is done on many different platforms.
Since u asked, this is my fav.

https://youtu.be/H4Ynmf7hMkg
again, not to troll, but you could have listed those platforms and given links in the time it took to say you don't use youtube but used other platforms

you take the time to say your sources aren't youtube but rather something credible then remove all credibility by not disclosing them and instead sharing a video that has a cartoon spaceship background and a host wearing a tshirt who magically beams himself into the frame

have you read the white paper? what about it compelled you to believe that xlm had a strong future?

given you have put 99% of your life roll into xlm, you have major incentives to share why it's awesome so everyone piles in too

also regarding bets, did you line shop? what was your thought process for betting a -800 line? do you know how often they need to win that game to break even? do you know the math behind parlays? if yes, then what was the reasoning behind them?
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01-02-2022 , 03:21 PM
How bout I spend every waking minute alive answering all the important questions? Who cares if I hv 3 kids, family, running errands, shopping, kid drop offs, kid pick ups, take to activities, xlm to sweat, nfl games to sweat, Hoosiers to sweat, exercise to do, etc etc.
@Masta gets a lil upset too, when I don’t address his questions. If I feel they’re worthy, I will, but just can’t can’t get to everything.

Also, I don’t like the added pressure of people riding w me. Don’t like phucking w peoples money, and shdnt hv to gv u all the dd. I hv discussed many times in the past my thought process on certain coins, how I do my research, and why I’m not scared to go all in. Etc etc.

I really don’t mind touching on some things here and there, but dude, cut me some slack man.

In the future, Stellar will be a better version of what PayPal is today. There, I said it.
Them getting recognition at Financial Hearing on Digital assets w members of congress brings comfort and validation.
Them working w banks throughout the globe make it more “on baord” approach w the members of congress and feel it’s a gd strategy.
Them having an abundance of $ on marketing but haven’t really touched it, is cool too. They doing everything behind the scenes and gonna shock the world. Just wait when they start spending some money on marketing. Right now, it’s just me and my xlm sweatshirt. Lol

Dude, I can go on and on w ibm, Moneygram, Jed Mccaleb D Dixon greyscale transactions charts undervalued socials, websites, wallet performance, most efficient cheapest simplest way, # of transactions, market cap.

Dude, I’m sorry I can’t get to everything. I’m trying my best.
If u want me to say xlm will outperform all ur favorite coins in 2022; then I’ll say that. I’ll take xlm and gv u eth, xrp, or btc,. whatever u want. That’s how I feel. I’m sorry.

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01-02-2022 , 03:49 PM
i never said i didn't like xlm nor that i didn't think it would perform well

i think you're a bit defensive, you are very public about making a conviction play, it's not at all unreasonable for people to ask basic questions about what led you to that process, if you want to do a magic show where you show your trick of yoloing into xlm and we all just sit back and applaud without dare asking how or why then you've come to the wrong place, if you make something so public it's really weird to then get angry when people want to actually dive deep and talk about it

i realize that the thread has been very hard on you at times but when you get really upset and pissy over basic questions of "what factors led you to invest 100% of your networth in a single crypto" then you make yourself an anti-hero who doesn't get much sympathy and it becomes a vicious circle where people who aren't actually trolling realize there is no point in engaging with you in good faith so there's nothing else to do but troll you instead

i do appreciate you eventually answering the question, but it would have looked a lot better if you didn't first spend a paragraph frantically searching to see if their was a knife in your back first
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01-02-2022 , 04:16 PM
Sorry everyone.
My bad to everyone.

Last edited by ButterflySymmetry; 01-02-2022 at 04:43 PM. Reason: Not sure.
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01-02-2022 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
...

i realize that the thread has been very hard on you at times but when you get really upset and pissy over basic questions of "what factors led you to invest 100% of your networth in a single crypto" then you make yourself an anti-hero who doesn't get much sympathy and it becomes a vicious circle where people who aren't actually trolling realize there is no point in engaging with you in good faith so there's nothing else to do but troll you instead

...
+1

i'd like an apology as well. i'm a lil upset.

edit: damn it! i should've quoted the above post. it was actually refreshing to see BS show some humility. repost it IMO, it will do you good.
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01-02-2022 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Masq
San Francisco 49ers bet: You are risking $1000 to win $125?

I really hate bets like that even if it's 'printing' money.
You a pro capper?
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01-02-2022 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by tswpoker1
You a pro capper?
You speak English?
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01-02-2022 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Masq
You speak English?
Thanks for making my point
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01-02-2022 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
How bout I spend every waking minute alive answering all the important questions? Who cares if I hv 3 kids, family, running errands, shopping, kid drop offs, kid pick ups, take to activities, xlm to sweat, nfl games to sweat, Hoosiers to sweat, exercise to do, etc etc.
You should hire a social media PR rep to handle all these questions for you.
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01-02-2022 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
Can we beat Sports Betting in 2022?
-place 5 bets a week.
-$2k total each week ($100min-$1kmax on single bets)
-keep a running track of: overall record, total $ amounts on placed bets, and a current +/- $ amount.
-each bet will b mentioned here (or pictured) prior to game. #fulltransparency
*only place these weekly bets when xlm is over .29. Any week xlm is below, we do not bet.

Week 1).

$300 wager on 2leg parlay.



3 Straight bets of $400, $100, $1,000



$200 wager on 4leg parlay.


Total bets $2k.
All games are today and 1 mnf.
Riding Ben Roeth last home game on MNF. Heavy on Steelers.

We will keep running tracks of bets throughout the year. #fulltransparency.
Doing pretty well so far. Max loss of 160. Good luck on the rest. I don’t love the bet on IU. They lose as the favorites to often.. bet them at home versus good teams if you must. I’m saying this as a IUBB fan with no statistical backup. Also the VIP program on other books is better than Caesars. DraftKings for one.
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01-02-2022 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
You should hire a social media PR rep to handle all these questions for you.

I’m not trying to say that. Ima nobody.

It’s just not wanting to answer questions when it feels like I’m getting lectured/ridiculed. That’s all. No big deal.
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01-02-2022 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ForBroke
Doing pretty well so far. Max loss of 160. Good luck on the rest. I don’t love the bet on IU. They lose as the favorites to often.. bet them at home versus good teams if you must. I’m saying this as a IUBB fan with no statistical backup. Also the VIP program on other books is better than Caesars. DraftKings for one.

Felt gd on IU when it went from -3.5 to -5 (on Caesar App) right after placing it this afternoon.
They never got it going today.

I prefer the Caesar app for Caesar rewards. I get free bets from them as well. Perhaps some others out there are better, but not too worried bout it.

Yeah correct on max loss wd be $160ish. Max win $600ish. Comes down to Steelers tomo. Satisfied w this +ev spot.

Thanks for following the journey.
This thread has helped so much. We gonna make another milly this year. So many people I shd be thanking itt. Ty guys. We are doing it!!! Lfg!!!
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01-03-2022 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
How bout I spend every waking minute alive....
Actually really respect this answer not a troll. I've been harsh at times, but at the end of the day you've provided for your family even when times might've been tough. Different approach to life for sure...Rayz would take on any grind to support his family if it came down to it imo.
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01-03-2022 , 01:00 AM
all-in Georgia moneyline
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01-03-2022 , 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
Parlays are dumb bets.
This is a really dumb post.

Parlays are basically the only way to win decent money in sports betting and be in the for the min and out for the max.

I am 100% with OP line of thinking, which is confirmed degen, but how boring is life trying to max EV every decision for the next 60 years till you die? Literally what is the point. And that is why OP got a milly and you don't.

You can either make 100 sports bets for example $1000 each and return $1400 including your stake for the best team to win which will only happen 80% of the time or you can yolo $500 on a 4 game parlay to win $10k and if you run slightly good it comes in every now and then. Offset degen parlays with much less risker 1 game bets IMO to reduce your variance and allow you the freedom to gamble to win big.

GL in 2022 OP F the haters.
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01-03-2022 , 07:18 AM
OP if you are interested in sports betting I reccomend checking out this website that was created by Scandi poker players who turned into profesional sports bettors: www.tradematesports.com

They have an online tool that tracks all of the major sportsbooks and their algorthyms check when the bookies have made a mistake in calculating the correct odds in a game so you can bet on it when it's +EV.

I have no affiliation to the website but I used to be a paying member and it was very fun / interesting. The only issue is that the websites you bet on cap your bets at $5 or $10 once they realise what you're doing so you have to be careful and not make it obvious if you want to keep your account fully active.
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01-03-2022 , 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
all-in Georgia moneyline

If we stay above .29 on xlm; then next week I’ll include this National Championship bet (in the 5).
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01-03-2022 , 09:54 AM
@sleepingonthecouch. I agree w a lot of what u said. Thanks for the link, I’ll check it out.
________________

Let’s get it Steelers.
Browns hv nothing to play for now as they are eliminated. Steelers hv everything to play for as they still in the hunt. Last home game for Big Ben. Last MNF game for Big Ben.
I like Steelers so much here.
Gv me my money and let’s start this challenge out w a first week profit!
*Steelers now -130. We got em @+145. We on the right side of it. Lfg



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01-03-2022 , 09:56 AM
Nice.
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01-03-2022 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SleepingOnTheBeach
This is a really dumb post.

Parlays are basically the only way to win decent money in sports betting and be in the for the min and out for the max.

I am 100% with OP line of thinking, which is confirmed degen, but how boring is life trying to max EV every decision for the next 60 years till you die? Literally what is the point. And that is why OP got a milly and you don't.

You can either make 100 sports bets for example $1000 each and return $1400 including your stake for the best team to win which will only happen 80% of the time or you can yolo $500 on a 4 game parlay to win $10k and if you run slightly good it comes in every now and then. Offset degen parlays with much less risker 1 game bets IMO to reduce your variance and allow you the freedom to gamble to win big.

GL in 2022 OP F the haters.
weird how not a single professional capper ever does parlays then huh

this would be ridiculed and laughed at so much at the sb forum

parlays do nothing but increase the vig by a substantial portion but remain popular among the squares because mindless idiots just see a bigger number and say "wow free money"

if you're making guy plays with no understanding of the percentages of success then a parlay seems like a good idea, but once you start working with percentages and measuring it objectively there's absolutely no way to defend betting a parlay other than pure degen shot taking
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