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View Poll Results: SO WHAT DO YOU THINK IS A REALISTIC ANNUAL EARNING OF AN "A" PLAYER GRINDING $1/$2NLHE?
LESS THAN $22K
392 12.64%
$22K TO $28K
453 14.61%
$28K TO $34K
505 16.29%
$34K TO $40K
528 17.03%
$40K TO $46K
295 9.51%
MORE THAN $46K
928 29.93%

11-22-2021 , 07:11 PM
He's a bigger dog in a poker game with people who think than with these sports bets so be happy. Future bets also are a good thing for these reasons.
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11-22-2021 , 07:12 PM
So the strategy is to place a couple bets and run well? This is the equivalent of a 2/5 player watching a 10/25 game from a far all year and bum hunting when there are huge whales giving it away. Then he thinks he's a crusher because he won 4 sessions. You picked a good spot and ran well. Fortunately bills get paid with actual money and not EV so you have that going for you. But to think you are anything but a fish on a heater is crazy.
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11-22-2021 , 08:57 PM
future bets on the top favorites early in the season is pretty dumb as you can usually get the same odds right before playoffs without have to sweat major injuries.
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11-22-2021 , 09:14 PM
Idk how these sports books stay in business with so many wizards around.
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11-22-2021 , 09:42 PM
100K for the sports betting roll would keep things interesting. Do you have to drive to the casino to place bets?
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11-22-2021 , 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bronson Mcphee
100K for the sports betting roll would keep things interesting. Do you have to drive to the casino to place bets?

Let’s do that. Seems solid.
So far 1/3rd of the 100k sports bet bankroll in play and not even 2022 yet lol.
Lfg!
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11-22-2021 , 10:39 PM
Guys.... R-E-L-A-X!

Also, chill Rick, you're a squirrel.
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11-22-2021 , 10:50 PM
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Guys.... R-E-L-A-X!

Also, chill Rick, you're a squirrel.
You're a squirrel!
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11-22-2021 , 11:22 PM
The futures are my favorite type of bets. I feel it’s most edgy for me.
I get what ur saying that sometimes those odds r still there at the end without sweating injury, but the opposite is just true as well. I wdnt mind placing these beginning middle end for overall better avg, but to each it’s own.
U guys prob right. I hv no high expectations in this, but definitely want to achieve success. I’m not a pro bettor, I’m more towards fish status. I wdnt follow any of my pics.
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11-22-2021 , 11:46 PM
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Idk how these sports books stay in business with so many wizards around.
I'm imagining a level where these moops are trolling you
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11-22-2021 , 11:49 PM
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I'm imagining a level where these moops are trolling you
I would hope so, but in reality most people think they can beat sports betting. Same way people think they can beat high stakes cash games because they won twice.
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11-23-2021 , 05:24 AM
This is what happens when people come into a bunch of money with no real plan - they end up spunking it up the wall acting as if they've won the lottery and have unlimited funds.

$100k bankroll for sports betting lol! I'd say why not start with $1k and see how you get on. Maybe even $10k if we're really pushing it.

But as we're so far beyond that point already, may as well strap in for the ride. The way to make money from sports betting is taking advantage of mispriced odds. I somewhat doubt much analysis has gone into determining this so the best outcome one can hope for is to break even or run slightly above expectation.

I suspect it will get to the point where you dump $30k on some long-ish odds bet, bink it and call the whole thing a success.
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11-23-2021 , 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Masq
I suspect it will get to the point where you dump $30k on some long-ish odds bet, bink it and call the whole thing a success.
Gd point. We need a minimum amount of bets in 2022 to qualify for success standards.

So far we have 100k bankroll.
X amounts of bets to qualify for success standards.
Some sort of racking for full transparency.
R we profitable but end of 2022?

Working out kinks fit when this begins Jan 1.

Other part of 2022 goal is a handful of nosebleeds.
What stakes r even considered nosebleeds?
Hell, will we even hv money left in 2022?
Will we hv more? Swinging from heels and breaking wood bats over our back in our follow thru. #homeruns. How dare u say #singles
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11-23-2021 , 06:24 AM
also a sports betting fish but found some success in the past 18 months or so in a couple sports more 'niche' sports that have only a few events and have a lot of 'fan favourite' athletes who are grossly overpriced as mentioned on the previous page.

The Tour De France being the best one IMO. Don't really need to know much about cycling to make some solid bets. People have their favourite riders and just load up on them no matter what type of stage there is that day. For example there were days in this years race where Mark Cavendish (sprinter) was top5 to win a climbing stage based on the odds and then you had some insane climbers who had amazing odds. You'll also get people just loading up on the Yellow Jersey wearer for individual stages with Sprint finishes even if they aren't a sprinter (and they typically aren't).

There's a couple other Cycling events that have similar kind of action, but as previously mentioned the events with the biggest coverage tend to get the best odds.
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11-23-2021 , 08:08 AM
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Gd point. We need a minimum amount of bets in 2022 to qualify for success standards.
Did you not read anything I wrote? The secret to being a good sports bettor is to understand you don't have to bet. Only bet on games you know you have an advantage on. The more bets you make the more certain you are to realize a negative expectation. You cannot beat the vig over a large volume of sports bets without having an advantage in spotting bad odds. But the odds on most sports bets are extremely accurate. The odds are only really off base when a lot of stupid money gets involved.

Don't make a ton of bets trying to impress the thread. Instead try to find a few good spots that you have a really good feeling about and bet them big. That's your only real chance of being ahead at the end of the year. If you were forced to bet $100 on 1k games next year you'd just be down ~10k by the end of the year.

And in case you don't already know parlay bets are for suckers.
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11-23-2021 , 08:38 AM
Yo @simple. Thought min bets required wd b gd for the sake of that other guy saying I binked a couple bets in 2022 and called it a success. My bad. I’m always reading ur posts and others. Appreciate all of them. Doesn’t mean I’m gonna do what u or others say tho. I flutter out some gd and bad and tweak it into something we can all follow.
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11-23-2021 , 10:10 AM
For your bets, I think you should include the following criteria:

Date:
Wager Type:
Wager Amount:
Total Units Wagered:
Sport:
Wager:
Odds:
Result:
Notes on Outcome: (Bad luck, Bad pick, Key injury, Not enough research,etc.)

Record of Last 10 Picks:
Record of Last 25 Picks:
Overall Record:



This will make it easier to identify what sports and types of wagers are most successful. Also, it will allow you to be honest with yourself on why you think you either won or lost the wager.
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11-23-2021 , 10:12 AM
The most skewed lines IMO are second division soccer and west coast college basketball. Lot's of value found in these if you ask me.
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11-23-2021 , 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
Instead try to find a few good spots that you have a really good feeling about and bet them big. That's your only real chance of being ahead at the end of the year. If you were forced to bet $100 on 1k games next year you'd just be down ~10k by the end of the year.

And in case you don't already know parlay bets are for suckers.
Definitely agree with the first part, but not necessarily the second part. I wouldn't parlay ATS, but would parlay with ML picks.
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11-23-2021 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by br3nt00
I'm imagining a level where these moops are trolling you
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
Did you not read anything I wrote? The secret to being a good sports bettor is to understand you don't have to bet. Only bet on games you know you have an advantage on. The more bets you make the more certain you are to realize a negative expectation. You cannot beat the vig over a large volume of sports bets without having an advantage in spotting bad odds. But the odds on most sports bets are extremely accurate. The odds are only really off base when a lot of stupid money gets involved.

Don't make a ton of bets trying to impress the thread. Instead try to find a few good spots that you have a really good feeling about and bet them big. That's your only real chance of being ahead at the end of the year. If you were forced to bet $100 on 1k games next year you'd just be down ~10k by the end of the year.

And in case you don't already know parlay bets are for suckers.
They got to be trolling right? BS said he wanted to beat sports betting. He didn't say I want to place a few bets and run well. The only way to determine you are a winner at gambling is to have an edge over a large sample. Anything else you are just a fish on a heater.
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11-23-2021 , 12:44 PM
Curious if OP has any clue about arbitrage betting
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11-23-2021 , 01:14 PM
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Curious if OP has any clue about arbitrage betting
OP is semi retired. Aint no one got time for that.
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11-23-2021 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tswpoker1
For your bets, I think you should include the following criteria:

Date:
Wager Type:
Wager Amount:
Total Units Wagered:
Sport:
Wager:
Odds:
Result:
Notes on Outcome: (Bad luck, Bad pick, Key injury, Not enough research,etc.)

Record of Last 10 Picks:
Record of Last 25 Picks:
Overall Record:



This will make it easier to identify what sports and types of wagers are most successful. Also, it will allow you to be honest with yourself on why you think you either won or lost the wager.

This is perfect. I’m wondering why their isn’t an app for this. Tried out 4 off the App Store today and all of them sucked or had the booked attached. Wd only track if used that book.

Just give me something like u hv mentioned above or an easy way to customize. Can’t believe not able to find a sports bet tracking app. Gv me something like poker journal for sports bets please.
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11-23-2021 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
Curious if OP has any clue about arbitrage betting

Talk to me. Have 1.5 months before challenge starts.
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11-23-2021 , 02:42 PM
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Curious if OP has any clue about arbitrage betting
Or even dutching.

But not sure how often those opportunities present themselves and I hear the bookies shut accounts you down pretty fast if they suspect you're doing it.
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