Might be for the best, constantly getting into back and forths over stuff thats trivial or stupid has to be exhausting.

I know you dont have the best relationship with the floor, maybe find a dealer or another player that can text you when the bigger games run. Or think about how to get the guys in the games you are in now to play 1/2/5 or 2/5 when stacks get deep. Or play the plo game and try to make it half/half. I know the "soft skills" of being a poker pro arent a big focus for you but any of that has to be more productive and might add to your bottom line more than arguing about whether the 2/5 game goes.

Wow, I'm super confused. Did some posts get deleted or something? Here's how it looks from my end:

Rayz says that he would rather play 2/5, a game that he doesn't have a single buy in for
Someone else mentions that 2/5 has run every weekend, a time period that Rayz doesn't play
For some reason, the fact that a game that he can't afford to play may or may not run during a time period that he doesn't play tilts Rayz so much that he makes like 10 posts in a short period of time, arguing with himself over how the game doesn't run, culminating with him self banning himself from his own thread

There is close to no chance of coming into a 1/2 plo game and convincing them to switch it to half hold em. There is a small chance of converting a 1/2 nl game to half plo though. And when done, within 2 hours the game is almost always converted to full plo. Occasionally there will be a 5/10 half and half game started, it almost always converts to all plo after the first few rounds of hold em, since nobody actually wants to play it ever.



On the subject of 2/5 no limit, when it does run there, there is almost always at least one 1/2 nl game running that is better than it, if not more. Tends to be a nit conference and really just pulls more of the tightest players out of the 1/2 games if anything.

It has ran the last couple of weeks, not that it is a game I’d recommend anyone play in.

+1

that's how it is at my casino too. in the 1/3 games on fri/sat night you can open to $30 and get 3 callers, there is usually one 2/5 game running and its just the same 8 nits passing money around.

2/5 only better if you are somewhere like winstar or cali where you can table select, in the midwest its usually better to play the loose 1/3 games than stuck at a bad 2/5 game

Same at one of the smaller casinos I play at. Way better to play in one of the 3-5 1/3 games than the 1 2/5 game. 5/0 plo has decimated the 2/5 player pool. Luckily I live close to other casinos that consistently have 5+ 2/5 games running

No, I don’t think anything was deleted. that’s about what happened. Then he got pissy at me because, never having gone to his casino, someone says it runs nearly every weekend and I said it’s outlandish if a game runs nearly every weekend that it would run for less than 6 hours, which I stand by my assessment with the information I was given. But apparently it doesn’t run nearly every weekend

15 on the 2/5 list right now.

Edit: game going with 7 on list.

6-7 hours later. Still going.

Will OP come back from his timeout and admit he was perhaps wrong??? From everything I've seen so far, not a chance. OP doesn't ever think he's wrong. Claims to have run the worst on the live stream when commentator literally said "Rayz has gotten queens, kings, aces, ace-king so many times I can't count". When confronted with this clip he still claims he ran the worst...

#stayontimeout #fullopacity

Since Rayz said he preferred to play 2/5, and 2/5 ran all day today, I'm sure he played in it, right? His motto is "don't b scared" so there's no way he's scared of the second smallest game in all of live poker. Did he hit a ground rule double?

I don’t understand all the negativity and constant attacks. So quick to jump at any little thing OP does sure it’s a little out to lunch sometimes but wow.

Holy crap... how many shares of ENPH did op have at one point? I'm guessing he would have $5M+ today.

Holy phuhahahahahahahah 35% today what the absolute ****nuckles. Think he sold out at about $2 so maybe a little under 70k shares?

Also he sold $TSLA to pay for the margin of NIO. That is also up like 250% from when he sold.

I think a lot of this is that some very reasonable posters have offered a lot of rock solid advice just for OP to simply disregard and continue on constantly making foolish moves. now those people don't post much anymore and all that's left are the ones who revel in seeing him flounder about.

Small sample size, fellas. I am sure hero is going to do his homework and crush small stakes stocks.

To be fair analysis pretty much goes out of the window when you pick 1 stock on margin. Either you're right or you're wrong in a massive way.

If he’d just diversified amongst those 3.

Then again would he have been able to get in on TSLA if he hadn’t sold ENPH?

This is in regards to all of the 2/5 discussion.

Having logged hundreds upon hundreds of hours at southern indiana, it's pretty obvious that the bigger game will run at busier times and with more out of town people not familiar with the local room. Playing 1/3 with a straddle anywhere for any amount allows enough action for the action seekers while allowing the stacks to build large enough to make buying in larger more attractive.

I literally have played at southern indiana at a 1/3 table where we had a 5k stack, two 3k stacks and everyone else except one at the table over a thousand. Even the low stack was at 800 ish. Not saying that large of an amount is as common, but it is not uncommon to see stacks at or over 1k. We were also effectively playing a 1/3/10 game because of the straddle, when you can play a 1/3 game that big, there's just not the same incentive for 2/5 games when the player pool is small as a general rule.

Add to this that those with deeper pockets in that room seeking action tend to play PLO and there's another reason 2/5 is as desired as one would think. In fact i played there one saturday night where the only game to run overnight was a crazy pineapple table.

As per cincy, the 2/5 games there are horrible. You have very few regular 2/5 players .... The game basically acts as a feeder in the PLO game/s which have no issue running.

Harrah's cherokee has a true 2/5 game and it runs regularly and is a great game. This is because you can only buy in the small game for 200 max and so stack sizes are limited to a large degree. Straddle only utg for 4 bucks. Not to say the games arent good, but when you jump up to 2/5 people are buying in for a G or more.

Tldr: no one is going to play 2/5 when there is the same action at the smaller game and multiples of tables to choose from.

Quick example ... Guy sits at southern indiana waiting on a 2/5 seat. His first hand at the small game some guy straddles 50. The next time somebody straddles 20. Sarge yells that the guy's 2/5 seat is open. Guy says, nevermind i don't want it.

They dont spread 1/3, they spread 1/2. No cinci PLO players(none of the good ones anyway) ever play 2/5 NLHE waiting on a seat. Theres 2 or 3 of the min buy warriors that play it occasionally, so wouldnt really consider it a feeder. Agreed that with no cap straddles 1/2 is basically the same, as most opens in that game are 12 or 15 anyway.

Logged hundreds of hours in a game that the casino doesn't run.... hmmmmm

Yeah yeah, meant 1/2 obv lol.

I did not mean that cincy 2/5 is mesnt to be a feeder, but that's what it ends up being. This is coming from personal experience having roomed with a couple of the dealers there and playing in that room predominately (for a living 40+ hours a week) for about 5 months last year. From whatever that sample size is worth, a lot of the main 5/5 players that play daily will take a 2/5 seat while waiting for 5/5 when they will likely be waiting a while. Quite often it became a feeder in effect due to this. In thr span of an hour or so you might have two 2/5's open, both barely containing 5 players very shortly after having been full, then combine, only to have the you know whos drop out and start bumhunting the 1/3's because the only real loose action players have gone to plo.

As far as small poker rooms go, the only real consistent 2/5 game i've seen is at cherokee.

If you are a plo player though, wed at cincy was always the place to be.

So you read only the first sentence, were unable to comprehend it, and 5hen commented. Lol.

Never said hundreds of hours at 2/5 in indiana ... Simply said i had logged hundreds of hours in that room.

They don't run $1/$3 bro

Ray,

I appreciate you sharing your journey with us, both the ups and downs. It is quite the thread. It takes courage to put yourself out there. Thank you for sharing everything.