That’s just another guy messing with you man.
I’m Justin G.

I don’t want to bet on a live hourly.
But I will say that 40/hr over a significant sample size of just 1/2 nl ( no ms) is a bet that most people would be drawing dead to make unless they run hot.
But if you really think you can do 40/hr, id highly suggest, not for the sake of any bet, but just for yourself, to grind hard, at 40/ hours a week for even just a 1 year challenge to play full time, you’d make over 80k, which would get you right and put you right back at the same point before the negative variance took hold and you got hit big at the pennies and had some run bad in poker.

If you’re willing to make 40/hr ( in the worst hours on the worst days) just to win a 3k side bet, why wouldn’t you find anyway to fit in a full time schedule and be flush with cash and right back at your peak by the end of the year, that’s a lot more valuable than 3k.

What has happened too this thread - I hope you're OK man. The best way to prove people wrong isn't sitting and arguing on the internet, it's going out and smashing your goals and putting the work in.

Why don't you make the bet on margin

I’d consider betting that OP can’t maintain a 40/hr win rate at 1/2 under with the following modifications:

1) I get 10:1 odds, since OP has already proven he can win for 40/hr. I’m willing to bet 3k to OP’s 30k
2) money must be escrowed by OP to someone I approve before start of bet.
3) OP must play a minimum of 2,000 hours from the date of escrow to on/before 12/31/20
4) at the beginning of every week OP must state the days/times he plans on playing for the week ITT. He also must post itt when he starts playing, starting stack and how much extra money you brought with you
5) OP must video record his whole session, without stoppages in filming. If stoppages in filming occur, it is assumed OP lost all money in stack at point of stoppage and hours are stopped at that point. Any video after a stoppage will be assumed to be a new buy in. OP must state the date/time on film at beginning/end of video and every hour, on the hour, in which video is recording.
6) OP must upload unedited video to a video service with unrestricted access for anyone to watch, ie YouTube or equivalent, within 24 hours of the end of a the session recorded. Failure to due so will assume a full loss of money brought with you (see modification 4) and zero hours added to total hours for that session
7) anytime a straddle is used for under $10, OP must stand up and proclaim in an extremely loud, booming voice “only pussies straddle for so little. Everybody, come look at the pussy in seat [insert seat #]” and then blind raise to $30 before the cards are dealt. Failure to do this forfeits the whole session as a loss of any money brought with OP
8) OP can only play in his specific home casino. Hours played at other casinos are purely for fun for OP
9) Only 1/2 stats are counted
10) rakeback, comps, promo money, jackpots, propping money are not to be included in win rate
11) OP must wear a banana costume to casino a minimum of 6x per month. Failure to due so forfeits OPs escrow to me.
12) OP must tip the dealer for any hand won or chopped a minimum of 3% of total pot or $1, whichever is greater (total pot includes any uncalled bets). Failure to due so in any hand forfeits his entire session as loss of all money’s brought to casino.
13) any money taken off stack for tips/food/etc is not to be counted toward win rate

14) any money stolen also does not count as profit

My name is Justin Goodlow. And I'm in the room right now.

lol you should be giving OP 10:1

Lol, this...
And you know the stipulations are a non starter.
He's not making 2k hours, hell I'm not making 2k hours.
And he's already been banned for filming once

not playing 2k hours when you’re a live grinder seems a bit lazy, unless its because games don’t run enough but I doubt its a thing at the lowest stakes

Last few days hv been...

bringing up things that hv already been addressed. I explained everything and no one wants to accept it or they want to twist it.

We even talked about the ...why not grind for $40hr instead of driving...that’s been discussed too in the past. Poker can b stressful and an environment I don’t really like. Im not like most poker players who hv a deep passion for the game and love to play. I hate being there and there for the money only. Driving is easy, guaranteed $ everyday, and sometimes fun. There is value in less money for more happiness. Now this is more redundancy. Never stops. Said this now 3 fn times. Now u guys can twist it and flip it, so we can talk about it a 4th time.

We talked about stream...I win the most money.

We talked about a hh...I get the max.

We talk about trust...when I hv already posted truthful things that makes me look like an ass. I cd hv easily omitted all this from the thread to put me in a better light.

We talk about $20/ hourly in 1/2...I’m willing to bet I can make $40/hr.

Some hv said I can run hot and quit after 50 hours...i already said variance can go both ways and it’s 700 hr logged minimum.

What’s funny is that u guys think there is no way someone can make $40/hr playing 1/2. I get it, it’s not normal. You’re right $20-$25/hr is expected for most solid players. It’s that next level of player that u may never understand.
I’ll give u that 99% of the winning player pool can’t come nowhere close to $40/hr, but less than 1% can. I know prob 2 other people in that room that cd accomplish that same feat.

As I sip my coffee, I’m mulling over another timeout for u guys. It’s getting ridiculous here. Action on u, then Ill decide on a length of timeout (if any) in position. Post wisely.

This is gold Jerry, gold!

This is the content I'm here for.

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The bet reminds me of all the broke micro stakes players begging Dwan to make the million dollar no meat bet with them.

Th e guy who overbet shoves his gutter into top set and gets there also "makes the max" wrt hh logic. The game passed you by, you admit you don't have the emotional make up to grind full time and have a future even if it hadn't, just move on. I rarely say that but this is just sad. The good thing is you probably have the tools to make a good life few middle aged 1/2 burnouts (what you are, stats don't lie and all) do.

Absolutely not, he’s proven he can make 40/hr, he’s said as much a few posts back

Im the one taking the risk because OP has proven himself to be a less than honest individual

so you can make 40$/h but you made 15$/h last year

must have been very unlucky mate, sorry to hear!

also if you wanted to do something for the money you wouldn’t be playing 1/2 unless you admit you’re not smart or dedicated enough to succeed in other endeavors

If you think you can make $40/h in a 1/2 game, then stop being a lazy baby and make yourself some ****ing money.

There is no thinking to it. I can make $15/hr playing my C game, $25/hr playing a yearly average of low B game, easily over $40 hour/ playing my A game.
Done it a handful of years. Both pre thread, during thread. The most recent cd be 2017 data, yet cliffs don’t support it. Not for sure. Perhaps it cd b itt somewhere. I’m not taking the time to look. Before that, 2015 I made $45.52 on 667 hours logged. Before that, in 2014.
Per cliffs, when I got banned in August of 2017 we were ahead of pace beating the $40k challenge attempt 2.
*cliff notes are posted every few months. Maybe it’s time for everyone to get caught up again.

If I can make $40k working part time, 20 hours a week; then yes, I cd make $80k working full time.
I’m glad u guys want me to bust my ass and work 40 hour weeks. Sorry guys we semi retired at the age of 40 because we did grind my ass off from 16-35 years old. Keep fueling me tho, cause recently I hv up’d my working to 25 hour weeks. Lol Appreciate ya.

If by "semi-retired" you mean broke, having no passive income and not doing any work, then yes, you're semi-retired. You're one medical issue away from complete bankruptcy for the rest of your life if you want to keep this up. Your children are basically told to get ****ed because who needs college right, in any case their broke ass dad won't be able to afford it because he's too lazy to work.

In 2013 my 2+2 thread started w a $40k 1/2nl challenge. This challenge came up about $6k short.
2013 Poker Totals
Cash: $35,031 @ 26.66/hr on 1313.5 total hours. 70.5% winning %
Tourney: -$1,027
Overall: $34,004.

2014 Goal was to play bigger
2014 POKER TOTALS
Overall for 2014:
Cash: +$45,314. $52.22/hr.
Tournaments: -$4,115
Overall: +$41,199

2015 compiled of 10 goals. In parenthesis next to each goal is how I ended up.
MY 10 POKER GOALS FOR 2015.
1). -Be up 6 stacks of high society by the end of 2015 playing 1/2nl up to 10/20nl. $60,000.($42,582)
2). -No Losing Months. (*April lost -$2,528).
3). -Log an average of 25/hrs a week.. (23.3hrs)
4). -Come in top 3 in the WSOP League Finale. Getting top 3 will win me a Las Vegas tourney package. (WSOP Packages are: $11k, $4k, $1,500. Finale is April 11, 2015). (*ended up getting 5th in Finale)
5). -Log 1,000+ hours at Horseshoe Southern Indiana's poker room. This feat will take me from platinum to diamond card. (*Diamond card achieved in July).
6). -Log 200 hrs in Jan and get the $400 promotional bonus HSI is offering. (HSI rake back promotion for Jan rewards a player $2 x hrs logged. 200+hrs requirement). (*Logged 202 hrs in Jan)
7). -Have a $10k winning month. (*January +$10,151 Overall)
8). -Have a $5k winning session playing 2/5nl or higher. (Nope)
9). -Have a $2k winning session playing 1/2nl.(*+$2,236 on June 26th at HSI. +$2,709 on July 10 at HSI
10). -Play a 24hr session (*May 18/19th at HCO+$1,059)

2015 POKER TOTALS
Cash: $44,412. $38.95/HR @1,140hrs
63% win. *Crushed 1/2nl @ $45.52/hr on 667 hrs. *Only $15.96/hr at 2/5/10nl on 185hrs.
Tournaments: -$1,830 74hrs
Overall: $42,582 on 1,214 total hours

2016
Attempted to go the whole month of March without talking. Lasted 8 days when I slipped and said, "Oh ****" while playing rummy with my daughter. No Talk March, #NTM, oddly led me into trading stocks where I started w $40k and ran it down to $20k and then back up. We toyed around trading on the daily, and learning the stock game.
*Didn't put in a lot of hours on the poker table and ended the year $21,759.

2017
$40K Challenge: Attempt 2.
Try to make $40k playing 1/2nl only.
The challenge got cut short on August 22nd when I received a lifetime ban from all Harrah’s properties for vlogging on premises. At that time, I was on pace to achieve this challenge.
Sold my Melody 5 plex. Put that money, and poker money on a penny stock that made me some serious cash. Used that to pay off my mortgage.
Ban was eventually uplifted. Thanks to some poker player support.

2018.
No debt. No mortgage.
Monthly expenses have been lowered, and trying to live a semi retired life. But w little money leftover it feels I’m still trying to survive.
Money has been strapped ever since paying Uncle Sam 5 figs for profits on ENPH stock and capital gains of Melody, but we hv kept our head above water.
Didn’t track any poker this year.

2019
Got a heloc loan $70k (10k Sara and 60k me).
From that, we put $58k into the market and used $2k for poker/life roll. We added $4,000 to RH and was in the stock game for $62,000 total. Risked all-n on a couple high volatile stocks (NIO mostly) w margin capped to the brim.
We lost it all. Went broke and had to get a job driving for Lyft/Uber to build the roll back.
#semiretired life hasn’t worked out too great. We restructured our deal w Sara who owes me for when I paid off our house in 2017.
2019 Poker Stats: $6,313 on 427 hours $14.8/hr.

2020
After playing some catch up from last couple years, we finally got back on track. Going forward, everything earned will go towards the next shot take.
The 2020 goal is simple. $50,000 in liquid money by the end of the year. We started the year at $0.
What we gonna do once we accomplish the $50kl challenge? Super high roller? Buy a flip house? Another all-in on a penny stock? Who knows...

Ray, glad you're doing better. I wish the best for you.

My 1/2 games apparently aren't like yours because the day is death where i play. A good hourly rate is about 8 to 10 bucks for our day games. I try to avoid playing during the day and don't step foot in there until 6 pm.

Kelvy I’m gonna just chill this year and collect $50,000 working part time. U do u.
Then each and every year after gonna b easily adding to that number. If, and big if, I don’t punt it all away.
Hv a gd work week. Mayb one day u will b able to relax a bit.

Deal. Make $50k in how little hours you think is needed. See how it works out.

Ty. I get ya man. Great idea. Keep playing every hand the best u can play it. A sesh comes down to a couple key hands that will make u or break u. Play them optimally. Get the max.
There are many 1/2nl rooms throughout the country where it wd b impossible to achieve $40/hr w their structure, limits, and play pools. Sounds like that room is one of them.
Best of luck!

U can hollar back w that other guy. He supposed to check in around March for $10k. U can check back in Dec for $50k.
If deal means bet, we can do that too. I’ve already said I’m an underdog at $50kl, but I’ll gv u even money.
You’re right I don’t hv $3k now to bet. Prob around $2300 ish. We can do that or will easily hv $3k at the eom.

He already returned those.

I really agree with this. I've been in some day games where I had to drop the opening raise to 8 bucks(!) because the OMCs fold and fold. They also price you out when they raise because they want no one to call them. Unless you cooler the table consistently getting 40 bucks an hour at 1/2 during the day is impossible.

Did Ray get a new job? Hope so. Is it Lyft? The thread just exploded and 5 pages back still can't find the reference.