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View Poll Results: SO WHAT DO YOU THINK IS A REALISTIC ANNUAL EARNING OF AN "A" PLAYER GRINDING $1/$2NLHE?
LESS THAN $22K
397 12.73%
$22K TO $28K
456 14.62%
$28K TO $34K
506 16.22%
$34K TO $40K
530 16.99%
$40K TO $46K
298 9.55%
MORE THAN $46K
932 29.88%

01-18-2020 , 11:44 PM
The charity is me. I’ll take the freeroll
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01-18-2020 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
Any takers for $3k, no buyouts, that I make $37.5+/hr in 1/2nl this year? We can say that I must hv at least 700 hours to qualify.
If you could make 37.5/hr you wouldn't be broke right now.

Also I doubt anyone is interested in betting against someone who is broke where it's on his honor to admit if he's won or lost. Especially since you've admitted that you have no remorse stealing from stores and lying on your taxes. If I could assure that this would be a square gamble, I'd easily wager whatever your net worth is (2k I guess) but we both know that it won't be so this is just a posture play.

But if you can make 37.5/hr...go do it. Grind the **** out of the game, make 100k for the year, and start saving for your future. Wouldn't "not being broke" be better than winning 2k from someone? If you could do it, why didn't you do it last year? Or the year before? Or the year before? Why are you grinding two part time jobs if you can make 37.5/hr?
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01-19-2020 , 12:13 AM
Yo @GhoulPatrol check the cliffs.
2015 $45.52/hr on 667 hours played in 1/2nl.

For u I will do the bet for $40/hr. That’s 60% more than what the experts say. Also, playing in the worst times. Lol
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01-19-2020 , 12:19 AM
Lol at this ****ing ****

This thread has to be a troll now
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01-19-2020 , 12:20 AM
Is this a bet we have?
Any takers?
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01-19-2020 , 12:29 AM
I’d be surprised if anyone took this bet that couldn’t have the ability to watch your sessions in person whenever they wanted.

I have zero interest in living in a fly over state and have zero faith you would accurately record your results if money was on the line


Just out of curiosity, what where your hours, w/r for 2016, 2017, 2018, and 2019?
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01-19-2020 , 12:41 AM
Check cliffs. It’s all there.

Been #fulltransparency throughout. I hv no reason to cheat over $3k. I punted $65k and giving Sara $35k ish off her loan if sell early. $3k is nothing to me. One can say more ridiculous statements about stealing from Lowe’s when I returned 2 nail guns after 2 weeks both times. All within the rules. I didnt make them.
I wd b willing to put up more collateral if caught in any deceit over this bet. People at my local casino read the thread, so cd validate somewhat. I’m open to anything and everything that wd gv u assurance everything will b legit.
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01-19-2020 , 12:47 AM
Didn't you also take money from family members behind their back and then replace later?

I would make a bet about playing online for a # of hands.
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01-19-2020 , 12:52 AM
I did in fact at some point take the money I put into one of my kid’s savings account and then shortly replaced it w more. U r correct.
The bet is $37.5/hr at live 1/2nl, but will gv u the same deal too...$40/hr.
Do we have a bet?
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01-19-2020 , 12:58 AM
Actually I’ll up it to $40/hr to anyone lol.

That’s 100% more than what @TheProdigy said is a gd hourly during the time I play. And he plays at this casino. *I hv no idea who he is either.
60% more than the rest of the experts that say $25/hr is gd.

What’s considered gd to some is comical to me.

Takers?
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01-19-2020 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
Check cliffs. It’s all there.

Been #fulltransparency throughout. I hv no reason to cheat over $3k. I punted $65k and giving Sara $35k ish off her loan if sell early. $3k is nothing to me. One can say more ridiculous statements about stealing from Lowe’s when I returned 2 nail guns after 2 weeks both times. All within the rules. I didnt make them.
I wd b willing to put up more collateral if caught in any deceit over this bet. People at my local casino read the thread, so cd validate somewhat. I’m open to anything and everything that wd gv u assurance everything will b legit.


You torched 65k and refuse to tell your wife. That’s not lying because I doubt she’s ever asked you “have you ever lost 65k” but it’s omitting information that is obviously pertinent to both your lives. If you’re willing to omit that from her, why should anyone here believe you wouldn’t omit a session here and there when you punt a stack? Because you hashtag “full transparency”???? Lol, get real dude. You don’t even have full transparency with your wife.
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01-19-2020 , 01:11 AM
Please say it ain’t so. Not back to this.
No lies. Not telling her about my life happenings is not lieing. It’s just keeping things private for the sake of better life. She wdnt care anyhow. Seriously she wdnt, but no need to bring up. It’s all been said. People here love the redundancy over and over.
Do u wanna bet?
Does anyone want to bet?
I’ll do whatever it takes to show proof. Put up way more collateral or gv $50k if deceitful.
We’re only talking $3,000. U shd love ur side!
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01-19-2020 , 01:19 AM
I’m sorry guys I can’t go over $40/hr. Even though I still think I hv a slight edge at $41 and $42. Lol
$43 ish starts to get close. Lol
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01-19-2020 , 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
Please say it ain’t so. Not back to this.
No lies. Not telling her about my life happenings is not lieing. It’s just keeping things private for the sake of better life. She wdnt care anyhow. Seriously she wdnt, but no need to bring up. It’s all been said. People here love the redundancy over and over.
Do u wanna bet?
Does anyone want to bet?
I’ll do whatever it takes to show proof. Put up way more collateral or gv $50k if deceitful.
We’re only talking $3,000. U shd love ur side!
A relationship is built on trust. That is especially true for marriage. Not telling your partner that you lost 65k is not lying, but it's equally bad. Maybe it's just me, but I would just man the **** up. You shouldn't have any "life happenings" to begin with, it's about your family/wife man...

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01-19-2020 , 01:37 AM
Does this mean u wanna bet?
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01-19-2020 , 01:37 AM
I want some of that action. $100.

No need to escrow we can just square up at casino.

I dont play much during your hours but I'm in there all the time.

Justin G.
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01-19-2020 , 01:38 AM
Lol, you can’t even understand how failing to inform your wife of that loss relates to why people wouldn’t want to make a bet with you that relies on your good faith recording of results
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01-19-2020 , 01:49 AM
Maybe u guys need the emotional support or whatever. But nothing gained from mentioning and if I did she really wdnt care. It’s not her money and had very little effect in the marriage.

Justin G. $3,000 escrowed. I hv no idea who u r either, but u can sit at the same table as me and play the same hours. Whatever u want. Or can rely on my word. My word is gd.
Been transparent throughout. I mean seriously, lots of what I hv said makes me look like an ass and some guys wanna question my honor. Really? I cd hv lied and fake may way thru this. never mentioning returning 2 nail guns, punting $65k, Heloc, new agreements, the wife stuff, etc etc. A lot of it is a bad look for me, but there isn’t a thread if it’s not truthful.
U guys r unreal.

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01-19-2020 , 02:21 AM
I'll bet up to $150, escrowed with Bobby bskillz, under 1 condition. If you fail to meet the hours due to any of these conditions you forfeit the bet and I collect; Self or forced admittance to an insane asylum, becoming a Buddhist monk, or becoming a penny stock multi millionaire.

We Bet?
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01-19-2020 , 02:28 AM
is there a way to track your winnings?

how does that even work, I take your word for it?

also would have to bet on a minimum amount of hours, otherwise this is stupid you could play 20 hours run hot and stop the rest of the year
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01-19-2020 , 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
Yo @GhoulPatrol check the cliffs.
2015 $45.52/hr on 667 hours played in 1/2nl.

For u I will do the bet for $40/hr. That’s 60% more than what the experts say. Also, playing in the worst times. Lol
You didn't address anything I said.

But ok, let's see if you can walk it like you talk it.

$40/hr, over exactly 700 hours, no more no less, at the 1/2 game at your local casino. On your word. Up to 5k bet, bet starts once you escrow.

I'm the escrow.

You want me to trust you with being honest about your results, you have to trust me to be honest with the money.

See how ridiculous it is?
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01-19-2020 , 02:51 AM
I would love to take this bet for $3K at $40/hour for 700 hours, I think there's at least a 95% chance of winning. The only problem is that you'd have to be ******ed to trust OP.
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01-19-2020 , 03:22 AM
the thread is at its best when Rayz drops all pretenses and puts his narcissistic personality on full display

can't wait for more self-patting on the back for not banging an Uber MILF while married
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01-19-2020 , 03:24 AM
Again, if you really think you could sustain $40/hr at 1/2 then just go play for 75 hours and collect the 3k without having having to escrow all the money you don't even have at the moment. If you plan on playing poker the rest of the month there's a good chance you won't even have 3k by Feb 1st.

You're literally offering a bet with money you don't have at the moment. You forfeit automatically in that case. You are talking about a 50k penalty for lying but again that's just ridiculous and grandiose. I feel like Rayz is having some sort of mid-life crisis. Talking like an ignoramus, talking out of his ass, etc.
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01-19-2020 , 03:41 AM
No one can verify this so obviously no one with a brain will do this. Also, you’re willing to escrow your 3k now or is that another part of the bet we’re supposed to trust you on? Go grind out your $40 an hour then and quit wasting time with driving if you’re making more than half the hourly playing poker. Just do it and prove the jealous haters wrong.
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