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View Poll Results: SO WHAT DO YOU THINK IS A REALISTIC ANNUAL EARNING OF AN "A" PLAYER GRINDING $1/$2NLHE?
LESS THAN $22K
392 12.64%
$22K TO $28K
453 14.60%
$28K TO $34K
505 16.28%
$34K TO $40K
528 17.02%
$40K TO $46K
295 9.51%
MORE THAN $46K
929 29.95%

01-20-2017 , 03:52 AM
I too am staying away from bigger games for the majority of the year, nomore 5/10 MS h/h or bigger PLO games unless there are a couple really good spots. Gonna stick to the grind as well, maybe I'll make 40K too :P. Hopefully we can both get some volume in this year, good luck to you Rayz! You definitely have the ability to crush this.
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01-20-2017 , 07:58 AM
I haven't played at HSI for a year, but was thinking about starting to go again. Not sure I want to butthead with you experts though!
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01-20-2017 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TheProdigy93
I too am staying away from bigger games for the majority of the year, nomore 5/10 MS h/h or bigger PLO games unless there are a couple really good spots. Gonna stick to the grind as well, maybe I'll make 40K too :P. Hopefully we can both get some volume in this year, good luck to you Rayz! You definitely have the ability to crush this.
Thanks @prodigy. U hv the ability as well. It's important than we look long picture, and not in the short term. It's a long year, and we just started. Pace yourself.

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I haven't played at HSI for a year, but was thinking about starting to go again. Not sure I want to butthead with you experts though!
It's one of the toughest rooms I've played in, so i dont blame ya. Just got find the spots while trying stay out of bad ones.
best of luck
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01-20-2017 , 02:01 PM
A stellar +$51 yesterday.
I just want to shave this beard. Is that too much to ask?
Shave once we reach $10K.

Today we're gonna grind a short session, and then the fam is gonna watch a High School basketball game. My girls school is playing the #1 team in the state, New Albany. If u didn't already know, let me tell ya, basketball in the Hoosier state is religion to most. People take their basketball very serious here, and High School basketball is no different. Just check out this crowd from another game I went to this year. The pic below is when i watched N.A. play earlier in the season, solely to watch this kid in the 11th grade, Romeo Langford.



He is the #1 player in the country in the junior class. He has every coach from the top programs recruiting him. The kid can go anywhere he wants, and will be a NBA'er soon.
Romeo has a very good chance to break Damon Bailey's all time leading scorer in Indiana upon graduating. He's the real deal, and I'm looking forward to watching him again tonight. Every game u can expect some top college coaches and/or assistants to be there. Pitino has been there numerous times, Roy Williams was at his practice on Wednesday, Duke assts were there to watch him last week, Calipari has paid many visits too. i know this because i either hv seen it firsthand, or heard about from my niece who cheers for NAHS.


Anyways, that's the agenda for today. Short session and then popcorn n hoops w the fam.
My prediction: book a solid W in the pokerz, then watch my daughter's school get destroyed, and see Romeo drop 40. Remember his name folks. In a state where basketball is King, my other prediction is that Romeo Langford will end up being the best High School player ever in this state.
http://www.indystar.com/story/sports...ight/96028012/

P.S. i hope Romeo goes to U of L.
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01-20-2017 , 05:00 PM
Ok that's insane!

And coming from me (I'm a HS athletic director as the "semi" in semi-pro poker player). We have never gotten even 100 people at out bball games. And doubt ever that many even for a football game!

Lol

Anyhow today's job requires I go to Mohegan sun in Ct for a baseball/softball tadeshow. Tough life. So of course I got some poker in

Played some 2/5 at a super easy lineup. Had 600$ and the villain had be covered. I was in SB with about 6 limpers to me. I look down at 92hh and normally fold but said to myself. For 3$ I might hit Yahtzee lol. (I have in the last. It never get paid)

Sure enough flop is 972dd. I check. Villain bets 35$ Mp player flats. Folds to me I make it 125. Only villain calls. Turn is 4c I bet 200$. She flats. River Kh I jam she tank calls. I flip over 2 pair. She shows KJdd. Scoooooop

Good day of work work today hahah
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01-20-2017 , 07:38 PM
Not all games in Southern Indiana are that big, but it's obviously bigger than most. (My daughter's high school games at a mediocre school average 100. The boys get probably 400.) Romeo Langford's massive skills have made him a sellout everywhere though. He's not Lebron, but sells like it around here.
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01-20-2017 , 07:51 PM
^ Yeah @bmoney in these type of situations I see players fold small blind way too much.
In 1/2 u shdnt b folding sb for $1 w multi limps. Nice scoop buddy.


Got that 3rd orange back today w a solid W on a short sesh.
Now on my way to meet the fam at the bball game. It shd b a lot more enjoyable now that I scored nice w in the pokerz. Heck, I may even splurge and tell the kiddos they can get 3 things at the concession stand instead of one.



$3,599 rt
Now we 4 orange hunting...again.
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01-20-2017 , 08:03 PM
BOOM!! Nice one my man! Enjoy the game!!
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01-20-2017 , 10:31 PM
Take the rest of the month off because you are ahead of the pace
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01-21-2017 , 10:44 AM
TRUMP YOU
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01-21-2017 , 01:11 PM
The early morning special at the boat. +$328 (+$3,927 rt)

Battled w the Brain Surgeon and his $10-$50 straddles this morning. The biggest heads up pot we had was about $1k where I had to dodge his oesd, but we ducked and weaved.

4 orange hunting next week.
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01-21-2017 , 01:45 PM
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The early morning special at the boat. +$328 (+$3,927 rt)

Battled w the Brain Surgeon and his $10-$50 straddles this morning. The biggest heads up pot we had was about $1k where I had to dodge his oesd, but we ducked and weaved.

4 orange hunting next week.
noice!!!
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01-22-2017 , 01:33 AM
A player up here at Hammond Horseshoe tonight was saying that you're planning on doing a poker start up of sort after selling your apartment. He said he heard that from someone who knows you.
Is this the plan you have?
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01-22-2017 , 10:53 AM
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A player up here at Hammond Horseshoe tonight was saying that you're planning on doing a poker start up of sort after selling your apartment. He said he heard that from someone who knows you.
Is this the plan you have?
Not at all. Although I've tinkered w some startup ideas, a poker startup isnt one of them. In the past though I hv thought about designing a poker table w built in shot clocks, time reserve banks, chip counts, etc. A new age digital felt if u will. I just feel the business model is a win win for everyone. Less tanking and more hands definitely benefits the casinos w more opportunity to rake, and players too. This is not my current plan though, so I'll let someone else run w that idea.

I hv some other ideas, and still exploring more w the money from the sale of The Melody. When that time comes I will discuss here. How about we put that on the market in April.
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01-22-2017 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
I may be batting .500 on all my many goals I've attempted here through the years, but batting 1.000 on guarantees.

It's time for 2 more guarantees, and here they are:
•Gauranteeing a W tomorrow.
•Gauranteeing a $700+ week.
We didn't get the first guarantee, but nailed the second guarantee of a $700+ week. +$1,360



+$360 today got us the 4th orange.



+$4,287 running total.

Now we Grey Beauty hunting. Some like to say Silver Bullet, but I hv always been partial to Grey Beauty. Aka the 5k chip.
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01-22-2017 , 08:13 PM
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I hv some other ideas, and still exploring more w the money from the sale of The Melody.
put it all on black.
what are the other ideas you have.? how much are you expecting from the sale?
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01-23-2017 , 09:25 AM
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put it all on black.
what are the other ideas you have.? how much are you expecting from the sale?
The sale should yield anywhere from $153,000 - $163,000. My asking price will prob be $163,000.
As I mentioned before, I plan on grouping that money w the moneyz from the 40k challenge & the moneyz from the 40k stock game.
The total amount cd be anywhere from $200k to $280k. At this point it's still too early to tell, and what I do w this money depends on what I end up with.

Without going into too much detail, some things I've considered:
-paying off my $220k mortgage.
-a startup or invention (non poker related)
-buying a business/starting a business
-daytrade with it all
-travel for the big soft poker games.
-flipping houses
-buy a bigger apartment
-other

Still open for ideas, and any advice is appreciated.
I will say my first option is I'm looking to buy a particular business, and I will discuss it once I know my final dollar amount. It's prudent and beneficial for me to run these ideas through here before I propose any kind of buyout plan to the company. This forum has always been a great platform to bounce ideas off one another in the pokerz realm, so I'll try the business side as it gets closer. The great poker minds seems to correlate to savvy business minds as well, so it wd be foolish of me not to utilize this free counsel.

The money isn't a huge amount, but still is a nice chuck to do something w it. At my age, I'm looking to do something smart while the risk is minimal. By selling The Melody I realize I'm giving up $2K ish in net positive cash flow, so whatever I do I'm looking to beat that number. If I can't beat it; then i'm looking to get close to it while reducing the work load/stress.
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01-23-2017 , 10:50 AM
Hey, apologies, being a bit slow pony here, loving the thread!

What is 'The Melody' please?
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01-23-2017 , 02:09 PM
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Hey, apologies, being a bit slow pony here, loving the thread!

What is 'The Melody' please?
Fa la la da fa la la?
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01-23-2017 , 03:33 PM
Rayz...

how do you deal with big swings?

just took a beating today....game was super soft...all moves didnt get through so I tightened up a bit....then started getting outflopped...so tightened up moreand then proceeded to get stacked again when getting it in good....man today sucked.

turned my friday monster sesh into basically breakeven over the two days. so tough and tilting...needless to say Im done for the day....but still dont feel great....other than going home to my awesome kids and family (that should be enough right there) how do you deal with it...cause after they go to bed..I sit up and stew over the results that day...even though I keep telling myself ..variance...look at your hourly (still at 25 BB/hr) youll be fine....

thanks!
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01-23-2017 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bmoney
Rayz...

how do you deal with big swings?

just took a beating today....game was super soft...all moves didnt get through so I tightened up a bit....then started getting outflopped...so tightened up moreand then proceeded to get stacked again when getting it in good....man today sucked.

turned my friday monster sesh into basically breakeven over the two days. so tough and tilting...needless to say Im done for the day....but still dont feel great....other than going home to my awesome kids and family (that should be enough right there) how do you deal with it...cause after they go to bed..I sit up and stew over the results that day...even though I keep telling myself ..variance...look at your hourly (still at 25 BB/hr) youll be fine....

thanks!
Definitely don't stew over it, you'll rack yourself mentally too often if you do that. Maybe think of hands you could have played better, and utilize that info in future sessions. Honestly, volume is the only way to combat it. If you're a winning player, it will all even out. The only thing that helps me is that next winning session. Don't change your game if you played well, just do what you do and let it come back.
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01-23-2017 , 05:54 PM
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Hey, apologies, being a bit slow pony here, loving the thread!

What is 'The Melody' please?
Thanks buddy.
The Melody is my 5 plex Apartment that is a brighter yellow than any banana at the grocery store.
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01-23-2017 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bmoney
Rayz...

how do you deal with big swings?

just took a beating today....game was super soft...all moves didnt get through so I tightened up a bit....then started getting outflopped...so tightened up moreand then proceeded to get stacked again when getting it in good....man today sucked.

turned my friday monster sesh into basically breakeven over the two days. so tough and tilting...needless to say Im done for the day....but still dont feel great....other than going home to my awesome kids and family (that should be enough right there) how do you deal with it...cause after they go to bed..I sit up and stew over the results that day...even though I keep telling myself ..variance...look at your hourly (still at 25 BB/hr) youll be fine....

thanks!
@theProdigy93 said it well, and I'll be glad to add my 2cents.

@bmoney, u stewing over ur big losses shows how much u care. Just remember that horrible feeling when u play, so u do ur best not to feel like that as often.

Of course losing is gonna happen, but u if do ur best while playing u can somewhat control it. My advice is don't play when not in the right frame of mind, or if u feel ur playing bad/tilted. This will help manage those losses.

As far for handling the big losing sessions, u said it best. Trust ur hourly!! That's why it's so important to keep accurate stats. Once u come to the realization that ur hourly says $"X" / hr, and ur content w that dollar amount; then look bigger picture. If ur a winning player w a great skill set; then don't panic. In poker, no one can win them all, it's all about the long term and putting in volume. You just hv to train ur brain to think positively, and trust your hourly.

U r not alone in these feelings of despair. After 15yrs of playing, I too struggle w this. I hate to lose. I'm ultra competitive to a fault, and I hate losing! So while I'm playing, I try my very hardest to play EVERY hand the best I can play it. For instance; How can I get max value? Does this person ever bluff? Will he think an overbet is fishy or nuts? How does he perceive me? If I check turn will he be more apt to call river? Do I use my tight image to bluff in this spot? Does this person know I'm raising light in late position? Etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
I'm always trying my hardest to make money! Some are in the poker room hopin to win, but not trying their best to win. I'm there to outwork and outplay everyone. I know I want it more than anyone. I want to do everything I can to set myself up for a W. A slip up here and there adds up quick. I'm still upset at the $50 river call I made yesterday when I shd hv folded. My weakness of never being satisfied, I guess can also be my strength in wanting to succeed. Example, I win in a session and the $50 bad call is one thing I can't get out of my mind on the drive home. I'm thinking damn, I shd hv $50 more right now.

It worth saying, if ur playing gd; then u shdnt be mad at yourself. In this game, one can play perfectly and still lose sometimes. I.e. AA<KK. If ur playing poorly, review and work to correct your mistakes. Don't continue to play if not playing optimal!

I know some will take breaks when bad runs are happening, but for me, I can't do that. I just stew more and longer.
Moreso, poker is my job, and I can't make money sitting around disgruntled. For me, I hv to get back at it and just trust in my skills and my hourly. Thus, the more I play, the more I make in the long run. Only way to deal with the bad, is WIN! Winning cures everything.

Trust me, I know the feeling all to well. The day I lost $520ish and then followed it up w 2 more losing days was painful. To put in 20 hours during that time and lose was not fun. Fortunately, I got past that and booked some solids since then. I realize though these bad runs will happen again and again all throughout 2017, but I'll keep on preserving and pushing through again and again. Why? Because I believe in my skill set, and know I'm a long term winning player. My hourly says so.
So the more adversity that happens, the more u start to get acclimated to the swings.
I still remember back in 2003 the first time I lost $1k in the poker room playing 2/5, I was crushed. But since then, it's happened many of times. If u want to win in the long run, u hv to be willing to accept the short term losses.

The best players at the tables are the ones who lose and still keep their composure playing gd poker. Say no to tilt, and ALWAYS PLAY EVERY HAND THE BEST YOU CAN POSSIBLY PLAY IT!

Life is short, have fun and make the most of every situation. <--- Easier said than done.
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01-23-2017 , 06:12 PM
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Thanks buddy.
The Melody is my 5 plex Apartment that is a brighter yellow than any banana at the grocery store.
Thanks! Property prices sounds crazy, can't imagine what a 5 plex would cost around here.... Surely there is a premium as it is an awesome colour?
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01-23-2017 , 06:35 PM
Stock Game: I know a mentioned a week ago that I sold everything and wasn't going to get back in until a week or so after the inauguration, but I saw an opportunity for a swing trade today that I cdnt pass up.
Bought QCOM today after it plunged 14% due to a $1billion lawsuit w Apple. As u know, w RH Gold, I hv more buying power than actual money. I put $50k on Qualcomm midday and sold a couple hours later for a small 1% roi. W that amount of money it was too risky too hold for long.

+$46,199 running total.

The Past Plan: I ran w ENPH for a while and prob done w it after it popped nicely. Made some great money on it. Also, ran w BABA for a while too, and close my position for a nice gain. Not sure if I'm gonna get back in on that one since I already sold it and it ran up higher. If BABA comes down to a price where I sold from, I may, but not that excited about it after I already binked it.
My stock plan is always changing and evolving. I may say something one day and the next week it may be dead to me. It's weird, but I'm always trying to stay out in front of the big opportunity.

The Current Plan: like i said, this cd all change fast, but for now I'm interested in UA and UAA, and deciding on a time to get in. If TWTR continues to go lower, I'll be watching that too, and take a position.
Also, CYH and HYGS hv my attention.
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