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View Poll Results: SO WHAT DO YOU THINK IS A REALISTIC ANNUAL EARNING OF AN "A" PLAYER GRINDING $1/$2NLHE?
LESS THAN $22K
395 12.72%
$22K TO $28K
454 14.62%
$28K TO $34K
505 16.26%
$34K TO $40K
528 17.00%
$40K TO $46K
295 9.50%
MORE THAN $46K
929 29.91%

02-19-2024 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
I'd expect V to have a random 6 here almost always
Only if it’s a 6 w a gutter I feel.
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02-19-2024 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
Been thinking bout this hand in T for last couple days.

Level 9 w bb 1500 I believe.
Villain and I around 60k in chips.
Got moved to a new tables and no clue on anyone. To this point, only been dealt in a few hands and noticed V has played everyone of them.

Mp player (100k) wearing bone conduction earpods opens to 3500. I flat pocket 8s. Button (80k) calls. V in bb calls.

4 way pot 16,500
Flop 763r.
Checks to me and bet 5500. Button calls, bb ch/calls, bone conduction ch/folds.

3 way pot 32,000
Turn 3. 7633r
This time bb Villain leads out 10,000. I think bout raising, but just call. Button folds.

Hu pot 52,000
River 7. 76337
Not the best river card. Bb bets 14,000.

Is this a call or fold?

*Villain made it Day 2 bagging 700k.
Ended up folding my 88 face up only w hopes he wd show. He did!! 52o. Fml
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02-19-2024 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
Only if it’s a 6 w a gutter I feel.
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You make too many assumptions. He's basically min leading out hoping for cheap showdown. Even hands like A4o or 44 will take this line a bunch. He might occasionally have a boat but I'd expect him to have some kind of made-ish hand besides a boat waaay more often, along with random 52o junk like he did.

I'd consider raising river against a lot of V's tbh and it would never be as a bluff.
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02-19-2024 , 05:01 PM
We needed a promo hit to get us back near 1/3 40k pace and got the promo hit today.



+$1209 but still behind pace by decent amount


More hours logged and we get there for sure. 20hrs a week tho is sweet. As long as we can get by. Lol
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02-19-2024 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
You make too many assumptions. He's basically min leading out hoping for cheap showdown. Even hands like A4o or 44 will take this line a bunch. He might occasionally have a boat but I'd expect him to have some kind of made-ish hand besides a boat waaay more often, along with random 52o junk like he did.

I'd consider raising river against a lot of V's tbh and it would never be as a bluff.
I’m starting to feel u.
Been thinking bout this a lot because it was a key spot in the tourney. One that propelled Villain to a healthy day 2 stack and one that sent me closer to exit.
Maybe it’s a call.??? I’ve heard from 6 players and have 3 calls 3 folds It’s an interesting spot for sure.
Tried finding the call and cdnt. I’ll b more experienced for next time.
How much wd u raise here otr if chose that option? We both started w 40bigs.
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02-19-2024 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
I’m starting to feel u.
Been thinking bout this a lot because it was a key spot in the tourney. One that propelled Villain to a healthy day 2 stack and one that sent me closer to exit.
Maybe it’s a call.??? I’ve heard from 6 players and have 3 calls 3 folds It’s an interesting spot for sure.
Tried finding the call and cdnt. I’ll b more experienced for next time.
How much wd u raise here otr if chose that option? We both started w 40bigs.
Double checked stack size and with your ~40bb stack to start the hand I wouldn't be raising river for value ever with this hand actually. Much better to call and have almost 20bb left.

If you had V covered to start the hand I could see raising river to something like 38,000-44,000 and still have ~30bb if you lose. Readless I'm calling but a lot of player types I like raising if we are deep enough to not be going all in.
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02-19-2024 , 06:08 PM
The 3 pairing OTT is weird. Low stakes players tend to xr turned trips in this spot as opposed to leading out. 7x, 6x is still possible.

River for that price has to be a call. The bet sizing makes no sense, as does the line. Why would V make a 25% PSB with the nuts on the river? And taking out his 3x via the turn line, the line is just fishy and smells FOS. Can't fold getting 5 to 1. A PSB or even a chunky value bet might get me to lay it down, but not 25%.
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02-19-2024 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ohsnapzbrah
The 3 pairing OTT is weird. Low stakes players tend to xr turned trips in this spot as opposed to leading out. 7x, 6x is still possible.

River for that price has to be a call. The bet sizing makes no sense, as does the line. Why would V make a 25% PSB with the nuts on the river? And taking out his 3x via the turn line, the line is just fishy and smells FOS. Can't fold getting 5 to 1. A PSB or even a chunky value bet might get me to lay it down, but not 25%.
I dont think V ever has a 7 here which is why i was advocating for an all-in if you think you could get a 3 to fold, but may not be deep enough to get the fold. 56 is also a possibility for V to have, flop the nuts then slow play to milk pot, turn is a scare card so leads out, river double pairs board so makes a really small blocker bet to try to get cheap showdown.
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02-20-2024 , 06:52 PM


Grinded the court some after the pokerz. Working on a U shape retaining wall. Also, deciding now to remove all rock on the front side and go w grass on that side. Pickle Pic update soon.
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02-22-2024 , 10:54 AM
Took day off poker yesterday to take advantage of nice weather. Gotta get this retaining wall done so we can start playing some serious pickle.



Here grinding today w a new tipping method.
We tipping out of the cup holder. Keeping all my chips in play. Anything to help this $40k 1/3 challenge.

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02-22-2024 , 06:17 PM
1/3nl up $400ish…
A few minutes before leaving, a whale sits and puts on a $20 straddle otb. A couple tight nits call the $20, I decide to take a safe route call w 88 in cutoff. Whale makes it $120 w $250 behind. Folds to me and feel we are ahead of whale’s range and ship ($800 covering whale). He calls w Ac2c.
Clean flop, bad Ace turn.
Leave a few hands later +85. Cd hv been a +800ish day if 70/30 plays correct. Oh well, played perfectly throughout the 5hr sesh.

Each of these boxes weigh 60lbs, so feel this is gonna be a very sturdy pickleball net.
Anyone wanna put this together for me?

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02-22-2024 , 08:06 PM
Happy so far w the Pro Dominator Pickle Net.

Spent 5 minutes piecing these together. Hopefully the net assembly is easy.

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02-23-2024 , 09:28 AM
Quietly staring at my well built pickleball net while drinking a fresh brew on an already food stained 1yr old couch.
In a few minutes, imafinna to sit by the window and stare at the court.
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02-23-2024 , 10:48 AM
think i found a new project for ya
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02-23-2024 , 04:57 PM
@rickroll lol.

Do I even need to b flipping in 1/3nl?

Fun player wanted gamble. Helluva of a nice kid, but lost a couple big pots and now looking to dub up, or leave. The $160 he has left has been straddled all-in 3 hands in a row.
Hand 4… I straddle $6 otb. He blind shoves $160 in the sb. Utg, an og gambler, shoves $280 after 7 long head scratches. The rest of players fold faster than typing “faster”. I peel AKo. I gotta hammer the edges. I call.
Utg pocket 5s take it down. Another big one that cdnt go our way today. Back to back days ugh losing the biggest pots played.
Won bunch of small ones tho.

+281 and a nice 5 game win streak.
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02-23-2024 , 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
@rickroll lol.

Do I even need to b flipping in 1/3nl?

Fun player wanted gamble. Helluva of a nice kid, but lost a couple big pots and now looking to dub up, or leave. The $160 he has left has been straddled all-in 3 hands in a row.
Hand 4… I straddle $6 otb. He blind shoves $160 in the sb. Utg, an og gambler, shoves $280 after 7 long head scratches. The rest of players fold faster than typing “faster”. I peel AKo. I gotta hammer the edges. I call.
Utg pocket 5s take it down. Another big one that cdnt go our way today. Back to back days ugh losing the biggest pots played.
Won bunch of small ones tho.

+281 and a nice 5 game win streak.
Your mindset is off. That beat is not worth thinking about more than two seconds let alone writing it up here. It's a nothing burger. It also seems like your trying to make yourself feel like a better player than you are. You don't get to count the EV for the hands that you lost and ignore all the hands that you won. I do the same thing too sometimes, learn to recognize this tendency in yourself. As long as you care that you lost that pot you are going to be a worse poker player than you could be.
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02-23-2024 , 11:21 PM
You are obsessed with the fish logic idea of booking wins. It's easy to win 5 in a row when you count every chip in your stack and protect "the win" at all costs. All it means that when you lose you will lose big and when you win you will win small, on average.

Also don't forget that the 1250 promo is reported directly to the IRS so you will be forced to pay a third of it in taxes. So leave a few hundred behind when you start buying levered SMCI calls
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02-24-2024 , 11:32 AM
When ur down to 16k life/poker roll every big pot matters. On the other hand, I can surely handle losing a few hundred bucks when favorable percentages don’t go our way. I mean I hv had a few 6fig daily losses in the market.

This feels like our $ plateau, and now we build. No more big spending on court. We done w those expenses. Now we run it back to $30k.
Until then, we’re not really rolled for anything other than 1/3nl.
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02-24-2024 , 06:00 PM
in before $500 dog collars and $1knl stream shots

Last edited by kevinb1983; 02-24-2024 at 06:01 PM. Reason: kidding, kinda
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02-24-2024 , 11:06 PM
We got close to 15k life poker roll today. Lost $707 playing 1/3nl for couple hours. Bad for 40k challenge
Played like a maniac a bit during an anxiety attack. These donÂ’t happen often, but when it does it feels like spiraling death.
Actually. had to fake a phone call during a hand. Blurry, dizzy, too much **** around me, The cranium is firing off **** from every spot possible. IÂ’m wondering how fast we can get to showdown w this hand. I got a measly pair of sevens and hoping someone bets so I can fold. Gotta call this phantom person back! What I really need to do is grab an Ativan from my car and calm the **** down. Everyone is being strange.

Came back triple barreling and lagging it up. The meditation music help calm me and slowed my heart rate after bluffing all-In.
If my style had a name
.Overall pretty satisfied w play. B game. Big loss to start the night. Too involved. Too weirded up to b playing


Got it back in 5/5 plo
+$1099. The whole mood and environment changed for me. The Ativan slowed the activity of the brain and nerves and felt normal again.
I was locked in until Sara wanted to meet for dinner.

+392 overall.
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02-24-2024 , 11:14 PM
that doesn't sound great rayz, hope you can get that resolved for the better

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02-24-2024 , 11:48 PM
Only rolled for 1/3, then next minute is sitting 5/5 plo…
I love you Rayz, keep fighting you mad ****er!
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02-25-2024 , 08:52 AM
degenerate gambling in life and at the poker tables! this is why i read this thread. Rayz, do you have any idea how big a game 5/5 PLO is compared to 1/3 NL? do you even know how to play the game?
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02-25-2024 , 10:30 AM
At what point would you consider that you need something to supplement income from Poker? This semi-retired life sure sounds stressful to me!
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02-25-2024 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Masq
At what point would you consider that you need something to supplement income from Poker? This semi-retired life sure sounds stressful to me!
We can always come out of semiretirement if need be and log more hours. Up to this point, we have logged 122.5 hours this year. That’s only 15.5 hours a week! The court and sickness put us behind, but don’t lose faith in Rayz Em Up Rayz.
At what point would you consider that you need something to supplement income from Poker?. If we get under 10k, I’ll start to go 30yrs a week. Poker will be the job. No supplement for now.
This semi-retired life sure sounds stressful to me![/QUOTE]. Poker can b stressful in general. The Lord put me through mountainous swings the last few years. Nothing now really phases me anymore.
We believe it’s gonna all work out. Hell, we on pace for $40k, but it’s overall, not just 1/3nl. 40k on 15.5 hours/wk. Why we sweating? #semi-reitred



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