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View Poll Results: SO WHAT DO YOU THINK IS A REALISTIC ANNUAL EARNING OF AN "A" PLAYER GRINDING $1/$2NLHE?
LESS THAN $22K
392 12.65%
$22K TO $28K
453 14.61%
$28K TO $34K
504 16.26%
$34K TO $40K
528 17.03%
$40K TO $46K
295 9.52%
MORE THAN $46K
928 29.94%

12-08-2021 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
It’s agree it’s stupid not to now, but we trying for next levels. Basically, I’m saying we can outperform the apr% all other coins by staying put w everything on the line w xlm.
Based on my knowledge of how XLM has behaved historically I have seen nothing to support that it will outperform any other token.

In my opinion, you're missing a trick by not investing it in something like DOT / Solana / Cardano / Kusama (or any other legit project which you can stake) and benefiting from the asset appreciation + acquiring more tokens every week for doing nothing other than holding.

Either way, good luck with XLM.
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12-08-2021 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
Althought I shd at least put some $ in VGX for their loyalty program. It wd only be like 500 coins. VGX is bout $4 so it wd b $2000 for an extra .5%apr on xlm.
just a heads up, the interest boost on voyager only applies to BTC, ETH, and USDC for the loyalty program.

I'm in the same boat as Masq regarding xlm. lets be honest here, everything in this market is tied to bitcoin appreciation and/or being the hot new thing. you already binked on the metaverse new hotness with the facebook/meta announcement but you have to see xlm is NOT the hot new thing. sure it looks pretty bottomed out but so do a lot of other things that offer a better interest rate.

in the end you'll probably be alright if BTC doesn't flip bear. are you too aggro? of course! you've already hit your walk off homer and were moving on to take over the poker world, now were back to dangling all in on one investment. I ain't mad a you, though!
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12-08-2021 , 04:01 PM
Great post! Is this too risky Rayz?
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12-08-2021 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bronson Mcphee
Great post! Is this too risky Rayz?

They just don’t believe in Stellar like I do.
Not worried bout the risk @bronson
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12-08-2021 , 06:07 PM
there's nothing to believe in, buddy. its an ultra low cost, ultra fast medium of exchange. that's literally it. it's cool, I use it. but there's a reason it's existed for 8 years and has never cost more than a dollar. it's a fork of XRP but at least Ripple has a max supple unlike XLM, lol.

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if bitcoin pumps it'll run somewhere between $0.40 and $0.75, if bitcoin dumps it'll be below $0.20. end of story.

like I mentioned above, imo I don't think this run is over so you should be fine.
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12-08-2021 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kevinb1983
it's a fork of XRP but at least Ripple has a max supple unlike XLM, lol..
XLM has a max supply, it's not inflationary anymore.
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12-08-2021 , 06:23 PM
I'll bypass looking into it and take your word for it, Rick, but don't think that changes much of anything.
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12-08-2021 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by kevinb1983
I'll bypass looking into it and take your word for it, Rick, but don't think that changes much of anything.
Yeah I agree with your reasoning about other coins being a better pick specifically something like ADA that you can stake and get returns back on. But XLM is unlikely to go below $0.20 and will probably get back to $0.40 soon. But the upside is also not super high. It is a great coin and very useful though so I don't think it's a bad idea to own a bunch of it, I've got about 100k coins. It's very fast confirms in 6 seconds costs less than a penny in fees and the network can handle large volumes. But for some reason being technically sound isn't as big of a factor in gains as some stupid meme is. Go figure.
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12-08-2021 , 10:11 PM
Let’s just enjoy the ride everyone
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12-08-2021 , 11:13 PM
I think we’re gonna exclude the future bets I’ve already made on the 2022 sports bet challenge. It seems like it wd skew the challenge too much. Since those were some big 5 figure bets and they were made in 2021, it just doesn’t seem to fit w the challenge. Rest assured, I feel great about those bets and feel it wd favor my chances of coming out on top. But, we just gonna include bets made only in 2022.

Also, the final number is 5 bets a week. $2k each week. 260 total bets in 2022. $104k wagered.
Plain and simple.
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12-09-2021 , 12:03 AM
You know you could save some time and just do 1 100k bet
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12-09-2021 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ButterflySymmetry
I think we’re gonna exclude the future bets I’ve already made on the 2022 sports bet challenge. It seems like it wd skew the challenge too much. Since those were some big 5 figure bets and they were made in 2021, it just doesn’t seem to fit w the challenge. Rest assured, I feel great about those bets and feel it wd favor my chances of coming out on top. But, we just gonna include bets made only in 2022.

Also, the final number is 5 bets a week. $2k each week. 260 total bets in 2022. $104k wagered.
Plain and simple.
This is a bad approach to sports betting! Do not make a requirement for number of bets. Some weeks will not have any good bets available. It would be like playing poker with no table selection. You sit down at a table full of regs better than you and force yourself to play. Only in that scenario you're at least maybe getting better while losing money. Forcing a minimum number of bets per week has no upside except to demonstrate to a bunch of sports betting noobs on here you're good at sports betting. To anyone who is serious about sports betting this approach just shows you don't know what you are doing.

Or it's like playing a style of poker without adapting. Like if someone is opening very wide not adjusting to the play style. It's just overall very dumb.

Is your goal to win or to prove you can beat sports betting? Would you chose to play poker against tougher opponents to prove to this thread you are good at poker or would you choose to play against weaker opponents to make more money? What's your goal with betting sports?

I guarantee you will lose overall if you bet a static amount 5 times a week for a full year. No way you beat the vig.
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12-09-2021 , 12:31 AM
Huny if you wanna bet, bet. Don't let the mean man tell you what to do.
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12-09-2021 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by D0UGHBOY
You know you could save some time and just do 1 100k bet
Pick a 2-1 favorite and have a great chance at winning $45000 for the year!
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12-09-2021 , 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by meshanti
Pick a 2-1 favorite and have a great chance at winning $45000 for the year!
That's greater than a 1/2 salary.
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12-09-2021 , 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by meshanti
Pick a 2-1 favorite and have a great chance at winning $45000 for the year!
It's already been proven ITT that if he took your betting advice he'd be lighting his money on fire
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12-09-2021 , 04:43 AM
Steelers-Vikings take the over

You're welcome
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12-09-2021 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ALLNITSGOBROKE
It's already been proven ITT that if he took your betting advice he'd be lighting his money on fire
That wasn't betting advice, that was math.

And I only gave one and only one betting suggestion (with w tongue firmly implanted in cheek). Please pay attention.
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12-09-2021 , 08:22 AM
W 3 weeks to go, still working out kinks on next years goal while still trying to accomplish 2021 goal.

This year just bout in the books and we only need a couple cards to call it a success. We found the Usian Bolt rookie a few days ago at a decent price. Currently in transit to my apartment.
Just need the Phelps and we gd for 2021.

2021 GOAL:
We crushed the 2020 goal and sold the house during a booming real estate market 2021
•took all monies and loaded up w MANA coin (penny stock). Nearly 200,000 coins of MANA.
•Rest of monies downsized to a 130k flip home
• will the flip be a flop? We will find out.
*sold flip (9/10/21) Made $21k in a 3 month flip.
Goal is after sell flip, pile more MANA, get back on the poker grind, and buy the rest of these sports cards rookies we need. Well we ended up doing just that and triple on mana for over a MILLION DOLLARS!
*2021 Pokers started w playing over-raked, 5 handed Covid regulated game. Mid summer restrictions had loosened up and the games were looking really gd. Amped to sell flip and get back to playing as big as possible. September got back to felt, started a 5/10 weekly game, busted main event, played in biggest session ever 10/20 w bb $20 ante as well then it played w continuous $40 straddle, and a seldom $80 re-straddle at the upstairs Bellagio on Nov 10th.

The rookies cards for 2021 buys:
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12-09-2021 , 08:43 AM
1. Stellar is NOT a ripple fork
2. Stellar has a max supply
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12-09-2021 , 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
This is a bad approach to sports betting! Do not make a requirement for number of bets. Some weeks will not have any good bets available. It would be like playing poker with no table selection. You sit down at a table full of regs better than you and force yourself to play. Only in that scenario you're at least maybe getting better while losing money. Forcing a minimum number of bets per week has no upside except to demonstrate to a bunch of sports betting noobs on here you're good at sports betting. To anyone who is serious about sports betting this approach just shows you don't know what you are doing.

Or it's like playing a style of poker without adapting. Like if someone is opening very wide not adjusting to the play style. It's just overall very dumb.

Is your goal to win or to prove you can beat sports betting? Would you chose to play poker against tougher opponents to prove to this thread you are good at poker or would you choose to play against weaker opponents to make more money? What's your goal with betting sports?

I guarantee you will lose overall if you bet a static amount 5 times a week for a full year. No way you beat the vig.
You can definitely find winner daily. Are you always going to have absolutely top of range max value? No. But you can find winners daily I can assure you.
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12-09-2021 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
I've got about 100k coins. It's very fast confirms in 6 seconds costs less than a penny in fees and the network can handle large volumes. But for some reason being technically sound isn't as big of a factor in gains as some stupid meme is. Go figure.
Yes very efficient I agree. Crazy we still live in a world where if ur unbanked and need to send $10k to someone across the globe then the most efficient/economical way to do that is wad up 10 grand, put a big thick rubber band around it, place in a bubble wrap envelope, and fed ex that shiiit. Nah I’m serious. It’s ludicrous.

Stellar gonna simplify money transactions. They will be the quickest, easiest, and hv far less % taken than anything out there. No one will be better.

@simpleRick your last sentence is why I like it most. It’s been undervalued for some time. You’re right it hasn’t seen those gains as some of the others. This is why I’m glad I’m in now. Before the take off. The sentiment is shifting, it’s garnering more attention, and gaining the stablecoin respect it deserves.
Those gains u speak of, are coming in 2022. I’m putting my money where my mouth is.

Hell, I may hold a milly worth throughout next year.
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12-09-2021 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by tswpoker1
1. Stellar is NOT a ripple fork
2. Stellar has a max supply
Just to elaborate; Jed McCaleb co-founded Ripple but disagreed with the other founders. So he went and co-founded Stellar Lumens. Which is obviously a different project and not a fork per se, but it's coded in a similar way.

Correct about #2 - there is a max supply which is 50 billion. Whereas Ripple increase the supply every month.
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12-09-2021 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Masq
Just to elaborate; Jed McCaleb co-founded Ripple but disagreed with the other founders. So he went and co-founded Stellar Lumens. Which is obviously a different project and not a fork per se, but it's coded in a similar way.

Correct about #2 - there is a max supply which is 50 billion. Whereas Ripple increase the supply every month.
I knew Jed co-founded and was impressed with his history with Mt. Gox (even though it got hacked) but didn't realize he went straight from Ripple to Lumens, thought he was working on another project with Stripe at some point.
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12-09-2021 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tswpoker1
I knew Jed co-founded and was impressed with his history with Mt. Gox (even though it got hacked) but didn't realize he went straight from Ripple to Lumens, thought he was working on another project with Stripe at some point.
Stripe tried to buy Ripple labs and when Jed left Ripple to create Stellar, Stripe pumped in $3M in seed funding and received 2 billion Lumens in exchange.
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