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Old 04-29-2015, 03:56 PM   #26
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this is going to be pretty sick if you run up this 5.45 man, been following and wishing you the best
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Old 04-29-2015, 05:41 PM   #27
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Re: Sports Betting and Poker: $5.45 to $10,000 in One Year

Good luck man
Can you tell me how is like to be profitable in sports betting in long term example ( not saying to give us games to bets , but telling what bankroll,strategy,swings,expected winnings number of bets per day and so on .... ) i bet on sports since i was 6-7 years old thats around of 13-4 years of betting and still havent find a profitable way ( But mostly for fun while i watch sports with friends of course )
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Old 04-29-2015, 06:02 PM   #28
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Good luck man
Can you tell me how is like to be profitable in sports betting in long term example ( not saying to give us games to bets , but telling what bankroll,strategy,swings,expected winnings number of bets per day and so on .... ) i bet on sports since i was 6-7 years old thats around of 13-4 years of betting and still havent find a profitable way ( But mostly for fun while i watch sports with friends of course )
I'll try to give a detailed reply to this later tonight.

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Old 04-30-2015, 08:22 AM   #29
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Re: Sports Betting and Poker: $5.45 to $10,000 in One Year

SB: +0.97
Poker: +8.97

Bankroll is at 45.26

Bulls at Bucks Game 6

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Old 04-30-2015, 09:18 AM   #30
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Good luck man
Can you tell me how is like to be profitable in sports betting in long term example ( not saying to give us games to bets , but telling what bankroll,strategy,swings,expected winnings number of bets per day and so on .... ) i bet on sports since i was 6-7 years old thats around of 13-4 years of betting and still havent find a profitable way ( But mostly for fun while i watch sports with friends of course )
If you are betting with friends for fun, the fun is the point more than the profitability. Even if you lose, it is nice to watch a game with friends and do a little trash talking with some money on the line. Lots of people like to put a little money on games to make them more interesting as well. That is fun if you are winning, but of course it can be agony if the team you bet on is playing like crap. If your goal is profit, here is my three-step guide to sports betting for profit.

1. Pick Winners

Obviously, if you are unable to pick winners, you will be screwed. You don't have to be the world's best picker. You don't even have to be able to be good yourself. There are plenty of sports betting message boards out there that have guys who have years of documented success, and these guys are posting their picks for free. I don't recommend paying for picks since there are so many good guys posting them for free. However, the greatest satisfaction will come from picking winners on your own. This is difficult for some. It comes easy for me, but I love sports and have a critical mind. The first step to success is simply finding a way to pick winners. Whether you can do it on your own or need help, once you have this down, the rest just comes down to discipline.

2. Bankroll and Money Management

You asked about bankroll. Well, there is really no answer. You can start with any bankroll as I am demonstrating in this thread. If you want to make a living, again there is no simple answer. I am a simple guy who doesn't have a family or any desire to have a lot of material possession. I could get by with a BR of $10,000 and live comfortably in any number of exotic destinations. I say just play with the bankroll you have to get started, and build it up until you have enough to start winning the kind of money you want to. There really is no right or wrong answer.

Money management, on the other hand, does have a lot more of a "right" answer. Although I haven't followed it in the early days of this challenge, my BR rules are to never invest more than 5 percent of my bankroll on any one play. Normally, I like to bet 2.5 percent of my bankroll on average plays and 5 percent on the plays I feel are slam dunks. Of course, nothing is a slam dunk, but the plays I feel strongly about like this I hit at about a 60-65 percent clip. That percentage is normal plays at -120 or better odds. I like to reevaluate my BR every week. If I have profited, I up my bets to reflect it. However, if I am at a point that I have lost 20 percent from my BR's high, then I drop the bets to reflect it. Luckily, this is pretty rare, but it does happen. It sucks to move down, but is is much better than going broke. I don't like to readjust downward until I hit the 20 percent loss mark because I like to give myself time to recover the losses more quickly with the larger bet sizes.

Again, there may be times when I break these bankroll rules during the challenge, but inexperienced bettors should do as I say, not as I do.

3. Discipline, Patience and Plays per Day

Discipline and patience are the keys to winning at sports betting, assuming you can pick winners. If you don't have the discipline to practice sound money management and avoid chasing your losses, you are screwed. Everyone knows about poker tilt, but I think it is even easier to go on SB tilt. The reason for this is that the control of the outcome is out of your hands, and the fact is that the sports world is populated by a lot of dumbasses. It is really tough to watch a guy who makes millions of dollars a year cost you money from making a boneheaded play. You have to be able to absorb the losses and avoid chasing. Chasing losses is the number one way that people go broke in sports betting, and chasing results from a lack of discipline, patience and money management.

I am a low volume player. I only make 1-3 plays per day usually. On busy football or college basketball weekends, that might jump up to the 5-10 plays per day region. That is just my way. I don't like to spend the time or deal with the stress of making dozens of picks a day. However, some of the best cappers I know do make 50+ plays a day, and they rake in the dough. If you want less stress, less work and smaller swings, I highly recommend the low volume approach.

That is my three-step approach to success in sports betting. You asked about profits. That depends on your bankroll obviously. I think a successful capper should be able to win around 20 percent a month. I have months where I have tripled my bankroll, but I also have experienced a couple months where I have seen it shrink by 30-40 percent. Personally, I shoot for 50 percent profit every month.


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To be a successful sports bettor:

1. Pick winners
2. Never bet more than 5 percent of your bankroll on one play
3. Don't chase your losses
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Old 04-30-2015, 11:24 AM   #31
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Really good response , tnx for taking time and writing it , will be following the thread gl
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Old 04-30-2015, 11:40 AM   #32
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Re: Sports Betting and Poker: $5.45 to $10,000 in One Year

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Cool idea bro... I have considered supplementing poker with sports betting but I dont even understand the numbers beside the bets. If you give a little notice to your bets, I will run off of yours until I figure it out.

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Old 04-30-2015, 12:59 PM   #33
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Really good response , tnx for taking time and writing it , will be following the thread gl
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Cool idea bro... I have considered supplementing poker with sports betting but I dont even understand the numbers beside the bets. If you give a little notice to your bets, I will run off of yours until I figure it out.

Good luck.
Thanks. Most of the bets should be on here in the morning.

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Old 04-30-2015, 10:36 PM   #34
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Ran like crap for a long time today. The hand that turned it around:


    WPN, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36227811

    SB: $1.21 (60.5 bb)
    BB: $2.38 (119 bb)
    UTG+1: $2.29 (114.5 bb)
    UTG+2: $1.98 (99 bb)
    Hero (MP1): $5.26 (263 bb)
    MP2: $4.83 (241.5 bb)
    MP3: $3.94 (197 bb)
    CO: $2 (100 bb)
    BTN: $2.19 (109.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J A
    2 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.08, CO folds, BTN calls $0.08, 2 folds

    Flop: ($0.27) 7 J 8 (3 players)
    Hero bets $0.22, MP3 calls $0.22, BTN folds

    Turn: ($0.71) 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.50, MP3 calls $0.50

    River: ($1.71) 6 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP3 bets $3.14, Hero calls $3.14

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    Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.



    As you can see, let myself play with a bigger stack today instead of cashing out when the blinds come around after reaching $4+. Love playing the bigger stack against the donks who get lucky and double up. Think I will keep using it for a while to see if I can up my profitability.

    SB: +3.00
    Poker: +3.24

    BR is at 51.50
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    Old 05-01-2015, 08:46 AM   #35
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    Oakland A's -145

    Risk 1.45 to win 1.00
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    Old 05-01-2015, 04:44 PM   #36
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    Gl I'm really enjoying this thread lol I wish I could grind micros and micro sport bets but I can't seem to take anything below .50/1 or bigger sports bets seriously
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    Old 05-02-2015, 09:14 AM   #37
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    Gl I'm really enjoying this thread lol I wish I could grind micros and micro sport bets but I can't seem to take anything below .50/1 or bigger sports bets seriously
    Thanks. I like the challenge of starting from microstakes and building up a bankroll that is sufficient to live on. It is making it easy to focus on building rather than the fact that I am still at penny stakes. I never really got higher than $0.50/$1 back in the day anyway. I doubt I will this time either. I think I am going to maybe move to live once the bankroll is at $4-5,000.

    Well, I had the first instance of playing drunk the night before last. I am not sure the exact figure I lost in about five minutes, but it was over $4.00. I then proceeded to run like refried dog turds most of the day yesterday. I think that at one point I was down over $12 with the drunk losses included. I managed to grind some of the losses back before I went to bed last night, but I hope that I have learned my lesson about playing drunk.

    SB: +1.00
    Poker: -6.92

    BR is at $45.58

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    Detroit Tigers -125
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    Old 05-02-2015, 06:18 PM   #38
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    I always make a bet on the Derby.

    American Pharoah +260

    Risk 5.00 to win 13.00

    Also played trifecta Pharoah/Dortmund/Firing Line for a buck.

    Good luck to anyone betting the Run for the Roses!
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    Old 05-02-2015, 07:52 PM   #39
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    I always make a bet on the Derby.

    American Pharoah +260

    Risk 5.00 to win 13.00

    Also played trifecta Pharoah/Dortmund/Firing Line for a buck.

    Good luck to anyone betting the Run for the Roses!
    Almost dead on... Wow way to go.
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    Old 05-03-2015, 09:36 AM   #40
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    Almost dead on... Wow way to go.
    Thank you.

    SB: +10.08 (includes eight cent rebate from the oh-so-close trifecta bet)
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    Grizz at Warriors Game 1

    Golden State -600

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    Old 05-03-2015, 12:32 PM   #41
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    very nice run so far, but I'm sorry to say that I think you are going to get destroyed at the higher limits.

    also, risking 6 to win 1 in the warriors game seems pretty meh, but gl man
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    Old 05-03-2015, 02:16 PM   #42
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    very nice run so far, but I'm sorry to say that I think you are going to get destroyed at the higher limits.

    also, risking 6 to win 1 in the warriors game seems pretty meh, but gl man
    Passive-aggressive much?

    Care to qualify why I will get "destroyed" at the higher limits?
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    Old 05-03-2015, 03:40 PM   #43
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    tbh not a fan of paying so much juice on warriors game, but I am enjoying seeing you run it up
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    Old 05-04-2015, 09:23 AM   #44
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    SB: +1.00
    Poker: +0.10

    BR: 56.68

    Cavaliers to win series against Bulls -230

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    Old 05-05-2015, 10:18 AM   #45
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    Poker: -7.44

    Bankroll is at 49.24

    Wizards at Hawks Game 2

    Wizards +6 -110

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    Old 05-05-2015, 10:42 PM   #46
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    Grizzlies 1H +6 -105

    Risk 2.10 to win 2.00
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    Old 05-06-2015, 12:40 AM   #47
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    I am brand new to sports betting. I have hooked up on ACR for this game tomorrow.

    cleveland -5.5 110


    What exactly am I rooting for? I think I want Cleveland to win but by how many????
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    Old 05-06-2015, 01:07 AM   #48
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    I am brand new to sports betting. I have hooked up on ACR for this game tomorrow.

    cleveland -5.5 110


    What exactly am I rooting for? I think I want Cleveland to win but by how many????
    Just bet it myself. We need them to win by six.

    Cavs -5.5

    Risk 2.75 to win 2.50
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    Old 05-06-2015, 08:39 AM   #49
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    SB: -0.20
    Poker: +2.10

    BR: 51.15

    Cavs to win series against Bulls -110

    Risk 3.30 to win 3.00
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    Old 05-06-2015, 11:48 AM   #50
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    Taking Man U -300 vs anyone this season is debatable too.

    Gl though, will follow
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