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05-03-2014 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Hughester
That's fair. Were their any particular activities/exercises you did that you feel had the biggest impact on your game while you were moving up?
In my younger days, I did a fair amount of writing (general school work, journalism courses, speeches for oratory competitions, etc). While I was good at proof-reading/correcting the work of others, I never felt the same about my own. It was all too easy for me to gloss over mistakes or tell myself Eh, whatever, it's probably fine when revision was needed.

The reason I share that anecdote is because I find a lot of poker players have the same difficulty in being able to diagnose their own weaknesses. Perhaps it's out of ego, but it's so easy to convince yourself that a play you made was acceptable. Sometimes that's done with a simple shrug. Eh, whatever, it's probably fine. Is it? Why shrug when there are so many ways to look deeper? Ask friends, post on 2+2, use an ICM program. Speaking of which, people often justify suboptimal play by fiddling with that very ICM program. They'll change around various things until achieving the desired result but by then what's the point? Here's an example.

    Poker Stars, $57.54 Buy-in (30/60 blinds, 6 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #26550101

    MP2: 402 (6.7 bb)
    MP3: 440 (7.3 bb)
    CO: 362 (6 bb)
    BTN: 1,059 (17.7 bb)
    SB: 1,128 (18.8 bb)
    Hero (BB): 697 (11.6 bb)
    MP1: 412 (6.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with T Q
    5 folds, SB raises to 1,122 and is all-in, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: 162 pot
    SB mucked and won 162 (96 net)



    Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.


    According to ICMizer's default ranges, this is a call. But it assumes villain is on ATC and he's a random. Could he be ATC? Sure, I guess. But if we take out the offsuit trash and drop him to only top 90%, QTss is now a fold. It's very easy to plug this hand into ICMizer, hit the nash equilibrium button, and move on when the program affirms your call/fold. But that's not going to help you improve.

    Revisiting my point about writing, I find it helpful to remove myself/emotion from the equation by reviewing hands from others at the table. The most common spot is when a regular does something I'd never dream of doing, like shoving a hand I would fold or making a super thin call. I'll save the hand, review it in ICMizer, and try to answer two questions:

    1) Was this a good play?
    2) If not, how/why could he think it was a good play?

    Occasionally the answer to #2 is "he sucks" but most of the time I can start to see what encouraged the regular to make that error.
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    05-03-2014 , 01:51 PM
    Can't believe it took me this long to stumble across this thread.

    Subbed, really enjoying the first few pages and the blog is awesome.

    GLGL!!
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    05-03-2014 , 08:04 PM
    That's some awesome insight. Thank you for sharing and taking the time to go into that much detail. Your anecdote actually hits close to home and the crossover/application to poker makes a ton of sense. Really appreciate it.

    Going back to your setup, I didn't see a HUD on the screenshot you posted. Do you use one while playing or did you just remove it for the pic? Curious if playing as many tables as you do in the hypers whether there's much value in real time. Obviously collecting the stats is valuable, but curious more about live.
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    05-03-2014 , 08:32 PM
    No HUD (hence the location) but I do take a fair amount of notes on regs and their particular tendencies
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    05-03-2014 , 08:37 PM
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    Originally Posted by Hughester
    That's some awesome insight. Thank you for sharing and taking the time to go into that much detail. Your anecdote actually hits close to home and the crossover/application to poker makes a ton of sense. Really appreciate it.

    Going back to your setup, I didn't see a HUD on the screenshot you posted. Do you use one while playing or did you just remove it for the pic? Curious if playing as many tables as you do in the hypers whether there's much value in real time. Obviously collecting the stats is valuable, but curious more about live.
    I don't think he uses one or not much at all. He's pretty much the last person I know who does not use one besides HU High NL guys like Durr/jungle.
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    05-03-2014 , 08:48 PM
    Hence

    Quote:
    Location: "The best guesser in the game"
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    05-04-2014 , 12:16 AM
    We have similar goals for hours in May (I wanted 200), any chance u wanna do a motivational bet for hrs played? $100 sidebet on overall results and then also loser has to pay like $10/hr they lose by or something like that? Up for anything of the sort if you're interested

    Thus far I'm at 8.2 hours for the month so behind pace; although I'm playing a long long day tomorrow
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    05-04-2014 , 12:49 AM
    For hours played? You might crush me with SCOOP/etc and I'm taking a few days off to play live MTTs/help Darren get settled here...

    Yeah I'm down. Let's do $10/hr you lose by (although if we both get to 200 hrs it's a push).
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    05-04-2014 , 12:58 AM
    Ya ill be taking a couple days off too, moving some day hopefully next week to a house north of Rosa.

    And sounds good, booked. bol sir!
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    05-04-2014 , 02:37 AM
    I'd like to add one Ollie's pizza to the bet if that's alright, payable only when we're both in Rosa
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    05-04-2014 , 04:33 AM
    Booked on that end too! Glgl
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    05-05-2014 , 05:29 PM
    I might have accidentally angled you by playing some HU Hypers last night. But I'm okay with it, pizzas are serious business.

    Also, this happened. Was playing a Russian reg and he kept sitting out so I stole his blinds. He obviously didn't approve.



    Btw, note that I used my HUD for the first time in...ever.
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    05-05-2014 , 06:04 PM
    I laughed so hard when I saw chatlog
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    05-08-2014 , 04:15 AM
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    Originally Posted by jdawg91
    Booked on that end too! Glgl
    Update after first week, Jdwag?

    I'm at:
    Spoiler:
    48 hours


    Oh and your boy told me I was a joke. :shrug:

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    05-08-2014 , 05:54 PM
    33.7 hours, my boy's probably a joke too

    hittin dat heat too, hope you're still heating it up!

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    05-08-2014 , 09:25 PM
    Too bad you're not a mod or something, you could re-open your old thread
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    05-08-2014 , 11:00 PM
    Would be good to hear a jdawg update! Maybe just a "things are going well, am not busto, crushing actually." then you can just close the thread again
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    05-09-2014 , 02:39 AM
    He's got a sweet new house and looks like he made $5k preRB in the last week, bustoaments unlikely
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    05-09-2014 , 02:56 AM
    lol if u think im not still in 6figs of MU

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    05-09-2014 , 05:14 AM
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    Originally Posted by inJaxwetrust
    I laughed so hard when I saw chatlog
    !!
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    05-09-2014 , 07:56 AM
    I love you sir.
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    05-10-2014 , 03:40 AM
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    Originally Posted by bushell
    I love you sir.
    Love you too.

    Probably taking most of tomorrow off, have to sweat a 'Who can hold their breath the longest prop bet,' grab communal dinner with a few poker players, and then get turbo drunk.



    Oh and it's my diet cheat day, so that means a lot of eating.



    Monthly graph so far.

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    05-12-2014 , 03:30 AM
    Came across an article today in my local newspaper that basically encourages readers to oppose online gambling. Submitted a response but it's unlikely my words ever get published, so I wanted to share it here.

    Original Article can be found here or in the first spoiler below.

    Spoiler:
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    Well-tanned and wearing a finely tailored suit, Andy Abboud looked every bit the sharp operative he is, representing the nation’s richest gambling corporation, one that is controlled by one of the world’s wealthiest billionaires, Sheldon Adelson.

    Abboud arrived in Sacramento early to testify about an issue his boss cares deeply about, online gambling. In time, Internet wagering could become the biggest gambling expansion since California voters approved Vegas-style casinos on Indian reservations in 2000.

    Five hours after the Assembly hearing began, at an hour when many lawmakers were at Capitol-area watering holes raising money, Abboud sat sandwiched between the woman who oversees California’s underfunded program to control gambling addiction and the Rev. James Butler, who runs the California Coalition Against Gambling Expansion.

    “I really did not know who he was until he spoke,” Butler said.

    Butler, one of the lonelier voices in the Capitol, has been fighting losing battles for the better part of a decade in Sacramento.

    Adelson’s Las Vegas Sands Corp. spent $175,000 in the past six months on a single high-end lobbying firm in Sacramento, Mercury Public Affairs, and much more in Washington, D.C.

    I am not accustomed to writing kind words about billionaires who own casino corporations that generate $14 billion a year. But on this issue, the mogul is on the side of Butler, if not the angels, although God only knows his motives.

    Adelson is funding a group called Coalition to Stop Internet Gambling. Abboud promises to spend “whatever it takes” to spread the word about the evils of Internet gambling.

    Adelson knows about the cost of politics, having spent $92.8 million to elect Newt Gingrich or Mitt Romney as president in 2012. That didn’t work out well for him.

    But Adelson’s consultants believe voters are predisposed to oppose online gambling and plan to start distributing ads this week, first on the Internet and later on cable and broadcast TV.

    An early spot depicts a boy who says he got a tablet: “It’s pretty cool. With Wi-Fi, I figured out how to get on gambling sites. …

    “What about all the money I’m losing? First, it’s on my dad’s credit card so we can always pay it back. Second, my brother’s friend told me that since I’m too young to play, I don’t think they’re allowed to keep the money.”

    No campaign would be complete without a villain. Adelson has ads in the queue targeting PokerStars, an online gambling firm based on the Isle of Man that paid $731 million to settle a civil case brought by the federal government for operating illegally in the United States.

    “If they get their way,” one ad says, “gambling will be available in every home, every bedroom, every dorm room, on every phone, tablet and computer everywhere, 24-7. Targeting families, kids, the elderly.”

    Despite that $731 million unpleasantness, PokerStars hopes to secure an online poker license in California if lawmakers and Gov. Jerry Brown approve it.

    To that end, PokerStars formed an alliance with large Los Angeles-area card rooms and the Morongo Band of Mission Indians, which operates a large casino east of Los Angeles and is a huge donor to state politics.

    Former House Majority Leader Dick Gephardt represents PokerStars and was in the audience for the hearing the week before last, as were several former state legislators and ex-legislative aides-turned lobbyists who represent various gambling interests.

    Adelson is hardly a David in this fight. But Goliaths seem intent on pushing legislation through this year that would legalize online poker, to the detriment of Californians who feel a compulsion to bet on losing hands.

    In April alone, gambling interests, mostly casino-owning tribes, donated $426,000 to the two major parties, incumbent legislators and candidates. Of that, $139,000 went to members of the Assembly and Senate governmental organization committees, which have jurisdiction over gambling bills, campaign finance disclosures show.

    “I’m very optimistic and sincerely hope we can get a bill out,” said Isadore Hall, a Los Angeles-area Democrat who chairs the Assembly Governmental Organization Committee.

    PokerStars and Morongo are lobbying for language that would ensure PokerStars could operate in California, its run-in with the feds notwithstanding.

    “We’ve been a responsible and successful operator,” said PokerStars spokesman Eric Hollreiser, an Isle of Man resident. The company has licenses to operate in 11 countries, including Germany, Spain, France and Estonia.

    Any legislation would authorize more than one gambling portal. But PokerStars has a list of millions of active gamblers, a highly valuable asset that could give it and its partners a competitive advantage.

    There are many theories why Adelson opposes online gambling. It would be competition for his casinos, though given its revenue, Sands could own online poker if it wanted.

    Abboud says it’s all about the future.

    Pulling his cellphone from his coat pocket, Abboud told the legislators who stayed late at the hearing: “The thought of turning every single one of these into a casino bothers us. It is a vice. It doesn’t need to be everywhere.”

    Abboud doubts online poker will be a golden goose for gambling companies, or for the state, which sees it as a sources of tax revenue. So entrepreneurs soon would seek approval for more profitable games including slot machines, the most addictive form of gambling.

    Maybe part of Adelson’s opposition is personal. The octogenarian is married to a physician who is an addiction specialist, and they have young kids who, like many kids, know their way around computers and smartphones.

    Abboud points to gambling sites based offshore that have cartoon themes. That suggests they’re marketing to kids in the same way R.J. Reynolds used Joe Camel drawings to sell teenagers on smoking.

    Internet proponents claim they will be able to filter out kids. Any parent knows kids are far more adept at navigating the Web than the rest of us. Certainly, no algorithm can spot an online gambler who is too drunk to stop betting before losing rent money.

    Just as plaintiffs’ attorneys went after the tobacco industry, Abboud predicts, class-action lawsuits against the gambling industry if Internet wagering expands. So there is a good business reason to leave money on the table.

    Whatever Adelson’s reasons, the gambling mogul has found old-time religion on online gambling. That’s worthy of praise.

    Follow Dan Morain on Twitter @danielmorain.


    My Response

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    Morain's piece pulsates with hypocrisy. We're supposed to believe Sheldon Adelson, casino owner, has magically changed his views about gambling entirely? Well, not quite. Casinos are still fine, as long as he’s getting a cut. Adelson makes the outrageous claim that online gambling targets "families, kids, and the elderly," the very same fallacious argument used in the past to combat gambling in general.

    After fighting this nonsensical line of thinking for decades, Adelson now finds himself on the other side simply because it helps his bottom line. Let's be clear about this -- Adelson has billions of reasons to oppose online gambling, none of which include the well-being of "families, kids, and the elderly.” But Morain instead chooses to paint him in a holier-than-thou light, spending less than two sentences on the possibility of ulterior motives. Even if we assume Adelson is exuding altruism, his vendetta against online gambling is without merit. Where's the evidence? Adelson points to cartoonish themes drawing children in, but the article fails to provide an example. I’ve played online poker professionally for several years and Mickey Mouse has yet to deal me a hand. Would these alleged themes be more or less cartoonish than the flashing lights and arcade-like sounds emanating from the army of slot machines spread across his casino floors?

    Shame on Morain for trying to convince the general public that Adelson’s comments are anything but a smokescreen for his own financial interest. The United States champions itself as a protector of individual rights and freedoms, yet Morain is busy applauding Adelson for throwing money at the suppression of individual liberties and then has the audacity to pretend he’s doing so to protect our children.

    As a professional poker player forced to live abroad because of U.S. legislation, I'm disappointed. As an intelligent person, I’m offended. And as an American, I'm disgusted.

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    05-12-2014 , 03:45 AM
    hero itt
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