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01-17-2014 , 02:58 AM
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01-17-2014 , 10:44 AM
@ Ruse I am so f bad. I hate calling mins like that after binking my ****ty 2 pair chase when you just know. Oh well. Yeah I switched to $30s from $100s and I'm thinking of just staying there all year, I'll be able to get SNE @ $55 abi in 1k hours or less at that stake, and I figure playing that many $30s I almost guarantee pre-rb profit but who knows.


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You must be rooting for the Seahawks
I am but I am super recreational, don't know some basic rules etc. Just want every team to have fun!!

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Thanks man!
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01-17-2014 , 10:32 PM


We be hittin that upSWONG. Had 2 full days off poker and didn't really care for it that much. First day back yesterday sucked ass I played like a dickhead. Today was better but I'm still not 100% comfortable with what I'm doing. It's difficult to find the time and effort to put in actual work to get where I want to be. I'm not sure sitting stagnantly on that future mountaintop is where I want to be either though, as long as I keep maintaining I guess.

Some progress coming in the golf, hit 15 greens today and the 3 misses were on the fringe. Only managed a 69 thanks to being 0/5 on birdie putts inside of 10 feet. I had a putting lesson yesterday so I expect that will come soon. I have a lot of room for improvement on the ball striking as well which is exciting after a day like today.
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01-17-2014 , 11:34 PM
SNE with $55 abi is a perfect plan imo. pre rb profit + SNE money plus all dat golf time....

Spoiler:
and golf money??
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01-18-2014 , 01:13 AM
15 GIR days are the stuff dreams are made of. Nice job sir!
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01-18-2014 , 03:26 AM
F golf and make 2x SNE !
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01-18-2014 , 03:56 AM
do you have a golf coach that you see regularly?
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01-18-2014 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by debacle
SNE with $55 abi is a perfect plan imo. pre rb profit + SNE money plus all dat golf time....

Spoiler:
and golf money??
Golf profit would be terrific!

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Originally Posted by LTT777
15 GIR days are the stuff dreams are made of. Nice job sir!
Thanks pal! GIR has been super bunk but I think it's finally clicked a bit. Once I get my ball striking it tends to stick around so I'm feeling positive.

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F golf and make 2x SNE !
Man, I'm already annoyed enough that I have to get SNE x 1.

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do you have a golf coach that you see regularly?
Yep I see him every 10 days or so. He just won the award for best coach in Canada. I'd be so hopeless without guidance. It's nice because as I continue to see him regularly I'm able to correct flaws on my own much easier, which is one of the most important things about having a coach.
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01-18-2014 , 12:26 PM
Very nice job keeping a be redline through that. Bring on the upswong.
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01-18-2014 , 09:33 PM
I've been meaning to ask you.

What's with the HM1 graphs (EV wise). As far as I know hyper EV is incorrect in HM1, not that it's peaches in HM2, but where I got my info it said something along those lines "fixed for HM2, likely never will be fixed for HM1".

P.S. Tried to find where I got this impression and found this thread
http://forums.holdemmanager.com/mana...yper-ev-2.html
, though I can swear I've heard this on more than one occasion.

So I guess my question is should we even look at the redline (hm1 related atleast, don't know if HM2 is better).
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01-18-2014 , 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tnotmotnotgwcrf
I've been meaning to ask you.

What's with the HM1 graphs (EV wise). As far as I know hyper EV is incorrect in HM1, not that it's peaches in HM2, but where I got my info it said something along those lines "fixed for HM2, likely never will be fixed for HM1."
Why do ppl always ask this question to the dudes going thru downswings that are seeking comfort in that red line? What kind of passive aggressive evil ******* are you?
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01-18-2014 , 11:24 PM
Lol. Guys seem to say when they compare db's it isn't much different. It's definitely broken in some way but I dunno, can't be that far off. I don't really concern myself with it that much anymore. It is kind of nice to see I'm almost 200 below instead of 200 down in ev too.
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01-19-2014 , 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by starting gun
Why do ppl always ask this question to the dudes going thru downswings that are seeking comfort in that red line? What kind of passive aggressive evil ******* are you?
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01-19-2014 , 11:01 AM
So I guess I should have waited for an upswing before asking my question is that it?

Anyway if you got the point of what I was saying you would be capable of seeing that there is nothing evil in my post. What I meant is it's just plain pointless looking at EV (as far as I understand the mistakes in HM1). sippin_criss might be seeking comfort that he is 200 buyins below EV but he might as well (if EV was correct) be -400 buyins below EV. If EV is flawed (as the program developers say it is) it should just be overlooked as it should have like zero value.

It would be about the same thing like seeking comfort in me saying in this thread "you are 200 buyins -EV", which of course I have no way of knowing. In reality you might be 200 buyins +ev (running hot even though you are so much -net winnings for the year) or you might be -400 buyins under EV (so running alot worse that EV HM1 suggests).

Anyway to summarize my point was to get information why a good player like sippin is watching over this useless (in my opinion so far) stats not to troll him in anyway. He has proven to be a good regular at midstakes+ games. Making SNE while at least braking even (as far as I can remember, i wasn't paying much attention to this thread last year, this will now change as I have subscribed) last year is something very few regs can do at 6max hypers so he has got my respect. Furthermore he seems like a very nice guy so my intention was very far from what you were suggesting.
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01-19-2014 , 01:51 PM
I doubt it's off by the magnitude your examples suggest. On the samples involved, I doubt the "errors" are more significant than the inherent variance of the red line. Obviously putting much stock in limited samples is dubious, but I don't see sippin really doing that.

GL OP!


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Last edited by Max Cut; 01-19-2014 at 01:59 PM. Reason: Get PT4 or (sigh) get HM2!
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01-19-2014 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
I doubt it's off by the magnitude your examples suggest. On the samples involved, I doubt the "errors" are more significant than the inherent variance of the red line. Obviously putting much stock in limited samples is dubious, but I don't see sippin really doing that.

GL OP!

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This. Being marginally off and being useless are two different things. Further, Sippin knows very well that putting substantial stock in what the red line says for number of games less than what would be considered a legitimate sample is leaving out portions of the whole story. But grinding variance roller coaster games is hard on the mind. Very hard even. And if a little redline love can help him feel a little better about it (thats all it can do, because he isn't putting much stock in it to begin with, so just a little better) then it is fine.

Plus, considering HM2 is just a big old bag of dicks disguised as poker tracking software, I think most are happy to take that marginal error in redline in exchange for the comfort of HM1
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01-19-2014 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tnotmotnotgwcrf
So I guess I should have waited for an upswing before asking my question is that it?

Anyway if you got the point of what I was saying you would be capable of seeing that there is nothing evil in my post. What I meant is it's just plain pointless looking at EV (as far as I understand the mistakes in HM1). sippin_criss might be seeking comfort that he is 200 buyins below EV but he might as well (if EV was correct) be -400 buyins below EV. If EV is flawed (as the program developers say it is) it should just be overlooked as it should have like zero value.

It would be about the same thing like seeking comfort in me saying in this thread "you are 200 buyins -EV", which of course I have no way of knowing. In reality you might be 200 buyins +ev (running hot even though you are so much -net winnings for the year) or you might be -400 buyins under EV (so running alot worse that EV HM1 suggests).

Anyway to summarize my point was to get information why a good player like sippin is watching over this useless (in my opinion so far) stats not to troll him in anyway. He has proven to be a good regular at midstakes+ games. Making SNE while at least braking even (as far as I can remember, i wasn't paying much attention to this thread last year, this will now change as I have subscribed) last year is something very few regs can do at 6max hypers so he has got my respect. Furthermore he seems like a very nice guy so my intention was very far from what you were suggesting.
tnot, from what I have seen and read the red line tends to have worse results than the actual EV sometimes up to 30%, but again from what I've seen from multiple people who have compared DB's in multiple softwares the actual #s are never far off, and obviously it's to be taken with a grain of salt. End of the day it's the money that matters and the only real purpose the redline serves is either a slight comfort when it looks good and results are bad, or to make you feel like **** when both are bad. I didn't take it as you were trying to troll me or anything.

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Originally Posted by Max Cut
I doubt it's off by the magnitude your examples suggest. On the samples involved, I doubt the "errors" are more significant than the inherent variance of the red line. Obviously putting much stock in limited samples is dubious, but I don't see sippin really doing that.

GL OP!


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^^^ ya

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Originally Posted by LTT777
This. Being marginally off and being useless are two different things. Further, Sippin knows very well that putting substantial stock in what the red line says for number of games less than what would be considered a legitimate sample is leaving out portions of the whole story. But grinding variance roller coaster games is hard on the mind. Very hard even. And if a little redline love can help him feel a little better about it (thats all it can do, because he isn't putting much stock in it to begin with, so just a little better) then it is fine.

Plus, considering HM2 is just a big old bag of dicks disguised as poker tracking software, I think most are happy to take that marginal error in redline in exchange for the comfort of HM1
After spending multiple hours attempting to configure HM2, I don't think I've seen (or will see) a better description than that.


I think lots of poker players myself included spend way too much time poring over useless details, looking at graphs and redlines, if I play x hours at x stake at x roi I'll have x in the bank and I can x. **** it all!! Just grind and work your ass off on your game, everything else is a distraction vortex.
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01-20-2014 , 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by sippin_criss
I switched to $30s from $100s and I'm thinking of just staying there all year, I'll be able to get SNE @ $55 abi in 1k hours or less at that stake, and I figure playing that many $30s I almost guarantee pre-rb profit but who knows.
didn't read all updates so this might have been answered, but how many games/hour do you get in? ~84, which is what I get for 1k hours and 55abi.
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01-20-2014 , 09:54 AM
That's about right. Tends to be more on weekends and less on weekdays. Overall it may be a shade under on average like 970 depending on how hard I'm tabling.
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01-20-2014 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tnotmotnotgwcrf
I've been meaning to ask you.

What's with the HM1 graphs (EV wise). As far as I know hyper EV is incorrect in HM1, not that it's peaches in HM2, but where I got my info it said something along those lines "fixed for HM2, likely never will be fixed for HM1".

P.S. Tried to find where I got this impression and found this thread
http://forums.holdemmanager.com/mana...yper-ev-2.html
, though I can swear I've heard this on more than one occasion.

So I guess my question is should we even look at the redline (hm1 related atleast, don't know if HM2 is better).
Because it's a better representation of your "true" ROI over that sample than the greenline is. It's kinda like saying why do you guys use google translate it messes up a bunch of stuff. The answer is because jumbled English is better information than Russian or w/e language you cant speak.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect..._enemy_of_good
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01-20-2014 , 03:31 PM
HM1 and HM2 only differed by like 0.3% roi over ~50,000 game sample I moved from one to the other when I upgraded. So yea it's off, but not by a significant amount.
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01-20-2014 , 04:37 PM
Good little link there Rusemandingdongdiddlydildo.
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01-20-2014 , 06:24 PM
Nicely put ruse, ty

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01-20-2014 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sippin_criss

We be hittin that upSWONG. Had 2 full days off poker and didn't really care for it that much. First day back yesterday sucked ass I played like a dickhead. Today was better but I'm still not 100% comfortable with what I'm doing. It's difficult to find the time and effort to put in actual work to get where I want to be. I'm not sure sitting stagnantly on that future mountaintop is where I want to be either though, as long as I keep maintaining I guess.

Some progress coming in the golf, hit 15 greens today and the 3 misses were on the fringe. Only managed a 69 thanks to being 0/5 on birdie putts inside of 10 feet. I had a putting lesson yesterday so I expect that will come soon. I have a lot of room for improvement on the ball striking as well which is exciting after a day like today.
What is your usual % inside of 10 ft? Does a bad day on the tables effect your golf much? Has using the noodle to stand on helped?
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01-20-2014 , 11:33 PM
I'm 40% from 4-10 feet this month which is pretty bad, tour avg is 65%~. I just had a good putting session with my coach a few days ago and we made some big changes that should finally stick and allow me to maintain some consistency with my putting which is something I've struggled with.

I forget almost everything when I'm out on the course unless something really bad is going on in which case it saps my motivation to even play golf, but if I am playing golf almost every day as I am right now I tend to be extremely happy and satisfied.

The noodle has helped for sure, it's just one of those things you do every single day forever until you are a total rock.
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