Quote:
Originally Posted by Shipnickle
HAND 1:
44 is usually a fold preflop on a decent table. I don't love post flop. Good thing is he doesn't have as many 22/33 like in a BTNvBB spot, where I would do this OB -> OB stuff more often on Txx. Here villain has more TT in his pre calling range. Low frequency OB barrell.
PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players
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UTG: $81.45 (326 bb)
MP (Hero): $25.00 (100 bb)
CO: $31.73 (127 bb)
BU: $72.97 (292 bb)
SB: $26.17 (105 bb)
BB: $26.35 (105 bb)
Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with 4♠ 4♦
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.62, 2 players fold, SB calls $0.52, 1 fold
Flop: ($1.49) 2♦ T♠ 3♦ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.13, SB calls $2.13
Turn: ($5.75) Q♠ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5.49, SB calls $5.49
River: ($16.73) T♥ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
HAND 2:
Marginal call pre vs small sizing, probably a fold though. Very low frequency x/r OTF. Our value range is really narrow, in optimal play we x/r as "thin" as AQ for value sometimes if we assume villain range cbets. Don't know if river is a shove here. Would rather have AJs/A5s blocking AA and AQ.
PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players
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UTG: $28.64 (115 bb)
MP (Hero): $25.00 (100 bb)
CO: $38.25 (153 bb)
BU: $11.21 (45 bb)
SB: $27.38 (110 bb)
BB: $25.00 (100 bb)
Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with K♣ 9♣
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.62, CO 3-bets to $1.75, 3 players fold, Hero calls $1.13
Flop: ($3.85) T♣ Q♦ 2♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.21, Hero raises to $3.75, CO calls $2.54
Turn: ($11.35) 4♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $4.75, CO calls $4.75
River: ($20.85) 8♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks
Hand 1 is a really interesting line, I only use one size on flops so I've never looked at stuff like this. Assuming this is pio approved then it's quite eye opening. I guess 44 benefits from folding out all overcard floats with the large bet on the flop. Then the turn is just so great for your range as Villian has folded all Qx without a ten or a flush draw on the flop. So you hands like QJo and KQo can bomb it for value. So it makes sense that these low pocket pairs would be used as a bluff. I think river give up seems best, you even beat some combo draws.
I just wonder whether this plays entirely different vs a SB flatting range that is really pair and broad way heavy, than vs BB defend which has far more junk that has a tough time defending. Otherwise I think this puts Villain in some really sick spots, and I think 99.9% of 25nl players would have no clue how to play well against this (you will gain EV because people will play terribly against this).
Hand 2 I think K9s is just a pure fold preflop but I'm a huge nit while OOP (and I haven't seen a light 3bet bluff at 25nl in weeks lol). This reminds me of when you called Q8s SB vs BB. Maybe this is a call against an optimal BB 3bet but way under 3bets BvB - and probably 3bets very linear with hands like QTs and QJs which dominate you. I don't think people find the like low frequency A3o 3bets that you see at 25/50
I think flop raise makes sense at low frequency and as you say the solver raises very frequently OOP (and very wide for value). I would personally just ship it on the turn, this way you fold out all his Tx and draws like KJs. Maybe this isn't how you would play your value so you shouldn't play a bluff like this. But I think you want max fold equity against any marginal holdings
As played I think you this is probably a river give up because you don't want to block clubs that floated turn. (Like AKcc or T9cc that would fold) and completely unblocked his value. Better to bluff with the KJhh i guess
Just my thoughts, may be terrible