That's nice of you Fubar. Thank you

+1 he is great

Hey, mate.

As you know, it's been a while since I went here on 2+2. So, as always, great and solid work you did. Congratulations!

Are you enjoying to play a little bit more tight?

GL!

hey nickles, really solid work here! I use zenith poker a lot too, small world!

Thanks brother!

I enjoy everything tight, Giovanni. Nice to see you back.

Thank you very much Electronic-James.

Yeah they're decent!

Simple pattern recognition for (semi)bluffing the flop as the preflop caller OOP. I picked out the combos somewhat randomly.

FLOP
Q86

OOP Checks
IP Bets 1/3

FLUSHDRAW RAISE FREQUENCIES

66%+
K7
JT
75
A8
K5
97
T9

33-66%
K9
T7
54
A5
K4
KT
85
A4

10-33%
J5
A2
74
95
KJ
T8
J8
K8

0-10%
98
AJ
AT
A9
T5
52
42
32


STRAIGHTDRAW RAISE FREQUENCIES

66%+
75
97

33-66%
T9
JT
JT
T7
JT
54
74
97

10-33%
75
T9
J9
95
JT
54
T7

0-10%
95
J9
94


WEAK PAIR RAISE FREQUENCIES

10-33%
65
65
A6
67


AIR RAISE FREQUENCIES

33-66%
KT
KT
KJ
KJ

Month so far:


Only a couple sessions so far. Finishing my master's thesis right now. Really happy to have it out of the way soon.

Hope you guys are doing great.

Sunrun session today. COVID-19 gifts left and right.

Are you playing 50z fulltime now? And can I ask for sn?

No I haven't moved up yet. Will probably start shotting soon :-)

sn: Shipnickle

Today:


A little unfocused today. Somehow I got blind for the RNG and ran some marginal low frequency bluffs on low numbers (that indicate a passive line) here and there and got punished for not sticking to my disciplined style of controlling my frequencies.

Again I don't think you gain anything by following GTO frequencies religiously but staying disciplined and playing solid is the way to go if you want to avoid tilt in the long run.

Nice progress! Gratz!

Thanks man! I see things are going a bit better for you atm, thats great. Keep up the studying and things will turn out good for you. :-)

Some hands

HAND 1:

Just playing villains somewhat capped range. Think you can do a lot of stuff OTT. overbet > x/f > x/r, in that order maybe. A decent player might protect flop xb range (with something like AA) but this seemegly weaker player probably never does that. I think river is a mandatory shipping of nickles with this combo.

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players
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UTG: $29.14 (117 bb)
MP: $45.62 (182 bb)
CO: $29.91 (120 bb)
BU: $73.58 (294 bb)
SB (Hero): $25.00 (100 bb)
BB: $33.95 (136 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with Q♠ 8♠
4 players fold, Hero raises to $0.75, BB 3-bets to $1.90, Hero calls $1.15

Flop: ($3.80) 9♦ 6♣ J♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: ($3.80) 4♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2.18, Hero raises to $6.75, BB calls $4.57

River: ($17.30) K♠ (2 players)
Hero bets $16.35 (all-in), BB calls $16.35


HAND 2:

VS seemengly bad villain. Ugly spot OTR. Decided to fold a small % of the time and call the rest vs this sizing. He actually picked the most tilting sizing lol. TBH we can be ubernits in this spot

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players
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UTG: $30.59 (122 bb)
MP (Hero): $37.89 (152 bb)
CO: $23.30 (93 bb)
BU: $27.07 (108 bb)
SB: $51.29 (205 bb)
BB: $25.60 (102 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with A♣ A♥
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.62, 2 players fold, SB 3-bets to $1.49, 1 fold, Hero 4-bets to $4.50, SB calls $3.01

Flop: ($9.25) 6♠ Q♥ 5♦ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.91, SB calls $2.91

Turn: ($15.07) 8♥ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7.50, SB calls $7.50

River: ($30.07) 7♣ (2 players)
SB bets $14.25, Hero calls $14.25


HAND 3:

VS nitty villain. Decided to high frequency raise flop to get most value from AK/AQ before board gets ugly for him. I'm not the best at playing deeper stacks but I think I've heard that in theory we should raise even less when deeper IP in 3b pot. If someone can correct this or explain why that is it would be awesome. VS this villain I up my raising frequency with close to nuts.

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players
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UTG: $32.00 (128 bb)
MP: $15.49 (62 bb)
CO: $54.60 (218 bb)
BU (Hero): $39.80 (159 bb)
SB: $57.81 (231 bb)
BB: $62.24 (249 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with 4♥ 4♠
3 players fold, Hero raises to $0.62, 1 fold, BB 3-bets to $2.75, Hero calls $2.13

Flop: ($5.60) 7♦ 4♦ A♠ (2 players)
BB bets $1.66, Hero raises to $5, BB calls $3.34

Turn: ($15.60) Q♠ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $7.50, BB calls $7.50

River: ($30.60) 6♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $24.55 (all-in), BB calls $24.55


HAND 4:

Flat pre because of weaker BB. One of the hands where I figured I will raise 15% of the time OTT -> rolled a really low number and decided to raise anyway. I think I missed a profitable shove OTR, would love a 2p/set blocker here instead though. We wont have that many valuehands OTT since we did flat the flop so probably not too bad to limit our river shoves to good blockers.

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players
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UTG: $24.75 (99 bb)
MP: $29.82 (119 bb)
CO: $20.29 (81 bb)
BU: $51.16 (205 bb)
SB (Hero): $25.00 (100 bb)
BB: $23.65 (95 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with J♦ T♦
3 players fold, BTN raises to $0.60, Hero calls $0.50, BB calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.80) 9♣ A♦ 8♥ (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN bets $0.81, Hero calls $0.81, BB folds

Turn: ($3.42) 4♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.62, Hero raises to $9, BTN calls $6.38

River: ($21.42) 5♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Hey nice thread, gl

Hand1:
Pre Fold or 4b sometimes Q8s OOP. I would lead OTT and Barrel River with your handcombo since u blocking AsQs , KsQs and its a OC to the board.

Hand2:
Strange 3b size from SB so if bad Villian i would size up OTF. As played it deffo looks like a blockbet from Qx but i would also call.

Hand3:
I would bet polarized here and use a larger turnbet if villain has TPGK or some diamond draw he will call which also means that SPR will be low and villain has to crycall with some strong Ax.

Hand4:
Pre i would 3bet this combo vs BTN even if i had a REC player in the BB. Maybe vs UTG/MP i might flat. With Str8draw and Bck diamondraw i would C/R OTF and barrel OTT. Could also check OTT after C/R flop and most likely get a check from BTN too since his range consist alot of weaker Ax that wants to see a showdown.

2nd time i wrote this since somehow my first resonse didnt get in... It became a bit shorter than the first one ... :-)

Happy to do some handreviews on hands we played sometimes if u want. Just hit me up on Discord.

Torilla Tavataan ! :-)

JTs still a 3bet, keeping the fish in isn’t a good enough reason for losing that much ev when he will be opening super wide

Torille!!

We can do hand reviews some day for sure!

Yeah you guys are right about this. What are combos you consider flatting with here with a fish in BB, or should we just avoid flatting altogether in this spot?


Thanks guys!

Hey! Thanks and welcome!

I remember watching a RIO video where the creator said that as SPR increases, OOP plays more passively and IP plays more aggressively. I imagine that with a higher SPR in a 3bpot there's more incentive to raise our strong hands as it is less likely stacks will go in otherwise. Therefore one can assume that the overall raising % will increase? What's the argument for the opposite?

Yes you're probably right! But I think it's more a thing related to cappedness than position, but likely a mix of both. A decent uncapped player can put you through hell if you start bloating the pot with a range that has very few nut-type hands.

I think my overall assumption was wrong. A capped range, especially out of position should play more passively in high SPR. We will raise/bet less TP/OP for value because we want to control the pot more. Even lower sets and 2p want to be played passively more frequently especially on boards where the turn/river card can quickly shift the equities between players.

Our raising frequency as the capped player will decrease because we will raise a narrower value range, which also means we need to cut down on our bluffs and use more combinations that have nut potential and decrease frequency with bluffs that can't become nuts.

The uncapped player can still play pretty much the same but should except to play vs a stronger range when raised compared to a low SPR spot.

Not 100% sure about this but my original assumption was more incorrect.

I will take this to the lab some day. Kind of lost in these high SPR spots

Last 2 days:


Getting slapped left and right. Nice to get some hours in though :-)

Couple hands:

HAND 1:

Hate these spots. What do you do vs micro pool unknown, pre and post?

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players
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UTG: $24.30 (97 bb)
MP: $28.55 (114 bb)
CO: $12.90 (52 bb)
BU (Hero): $25.00 (100 bb)
SB: $27.40 (110 bb)
BB: $28.06 (112 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with Q♣ Q♠
UTG raises to $0.50, 2 players fold, Hero 3-bets to $2, 1 fold, BB 4-bets to $6.60, 1 fold, Hero calls $4.60

Flop: ($13.80) T♥ 3♠ 4♥ (2 players)
BB bets $4.35, Hero calls $4.35

Turn: ($22.50) 8♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $14.05 (all-in), BB calls $14.05


HAND 2:

What do you think about flop? River seems like a snap vs this sizing, can v-bet worse some of the time.

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players
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UTG: $27.02 (108 bb)
MP: $32.79 (131 bb)
CO: $13.38 (54 bb)
BU (Hero): $28.91 (116 bb)
SB: $26.97 (108 bb)
BB: $57.22 (229 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with K♣ K♦
3 players fold, Hero raises to $0.62, SB calls $0.52, BB calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.86) K♥ J♦ 7♦ (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.59, SB calls $0.59, BB raises to $2.54, Hero calls $1.95, SB folds

Turn: ($7.53) Q♣ (2 players)
BB bets $3.95, Hero calls $3.95

River: ($15.43) 3♦ (2 players)
BB bets $8.11, Hero calls $8.11

When do we want to c-bet turn for 1/3 sizing with some or most of betting range?

- The most common spots are the ones where the turn card pairs the middle or top card or when the turn brings in a possible flush and/or straight. The reason is polarization; we do not want to polarize to trips, a flush or straight when we bet with our range. We have plenty of other value hands that we would like to bet for value.

BTNvBB. BTN cbet flop BB calls:
853 [9]

- Other more rare spots are when turn is a massive EV/EQ card for the aggressor range. The logic is close to why we range bet flop on some textures when we have a range advantage. Note that it's quite rare that the preflop aggressor has a big EQ advantage going to the turn after there has been a cbet and a call.

SBvBTN 3b pot. SB cbet flop BTN calls:
773 [K]


These are my own interpretations of solver output and I might miss something important. Please let me know.

This is interesting stuff nice post. I haven't looked at a sim for the first spot, but I would be interested to see if the solver also has an over betting range on the flush turn. I vaguely remember on some flush turns the solver using an overbet with some most nut flushes and then some off suit Ax with the nutflush draw. I think I often don't add a 33% turn size to IP range so this may be the reason.

I think my interpretation of the second spot would be just slightly different. I agree the K is a great card for IP range which leads the solver to barrel at high frequency. However, I think the 33% sizing is used because the board is paired on the flop. Maybe as you say in the previous spot the solver wants to bet far more widely than just trips/fullhouses so uses a small size.

I ran a sim with 37Tr (instead of 377r) and looked at the king turn. I gave the solver just the option of betting 33% on the flop (which it did at >98% frequency, so a range cbet)



On the K turn the solver is mainly using the 150% overbet. This puts the OOP player in a gross spot with all Tx and 7x. And gets maximum value with hand like AK which is basically the nuts. Whereas on the 377K board AK doesn't want to overbet as the BB will have plenty of trips to defend with.

Similarly this is just my interpretation, lemme know what you think.

I also seem to remember looking at AA4r and on most turns the solver used the small 33% sizing, I imagine because both ranges have a lot of Ax to defend vs big sizings. However, on the K turn i.e AA4K the solver used almost solely the overbet. (I would suggest this is because IP has AK for the top fullhouse whereas OOP does not)